Excerpts from the Guardian:
Forests expert officially complains about ‘distorted’ Sunday Times article
Press Complaints Commission told that newspaper story gives impression that IPCC made false Amazon rainfall claim
A leading scientist has made an official complaint to the Press Complaints Commission over an “inaccurate, misleading and distorted” newspaper story about a supposed mistake made by the UN’s panel on global warming.
Simon Lewis, an expert on tropical forests at the University of Leeds, says the story, published by the Sunday Times in January, is wrong and should be corrected.
He says the story is misleading because it gives the impression that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) made a false claim in its 2007 report that reduced rainfall could wipe out up to 40% of the Amazon rainforest. The Sunday Times story was widely followed up across the world, and, in the wake of the discovery of a high-profile blunder by the IPCC over the likely melting of Himalayan glaciers, helped fuel claims that the IPCC was flawed and its conclusions unreliable.
Lewis said: “There is currently a war of disinformation about climate change-related science, and my complaint can hopefully let journalists in the front line of this war know that there are potential repercussions if they publish misleading stories. The public deserve careful and accurate science reporting.”
The Sunday Times piece was originally headlined “UN climate panel shamed by bogus rainforest claim”, though this was later changed on the website version. It said the 40% destruction figure was based on an “unsubstantiated claim by green campaigners who had little scientific expertise”.
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Lewis said he was contacted by the Sunday Times before the article was published and told them the IPCC’s statement was “poorly written and bizarrely referenced, but basically correct”. He added that “there is a wealth of scientific evidence suggesting that the Amazon is vulnerable to reductions in rainfall”. He also sent the newspaper several scientific papers that supported the claim, but were not cited by that section of the IPCC report.
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Lewis also complains that the Sunday Times used several quotes from him in the piece to support the assertion that the IPCC report had made a false claim. “Despite repeatedly stating to the Sunday Times that there is no problem with the sentence in the IPCC report, except the reference.”
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Heh. This must be the first time Lewis has been interviewed by the press. From experience I can tell you that in matters of science, the message is often muddled by the time it gets to print. Sometimes this is intentional if the reporter has a specific agenda, but sometimes it simply is a combination of poor understanding of the subject and editorial considerations such as column space. Often a story as submitted will get cut down to size by the copy editor, changing the meaning by leaving out key details.
I don’t know if that is the case here, but it will be interesting to see what the PCC does.
Case in point. Two weeks ago I was interviewed by the Economist Energy and Environment Editor, Oliver Morton, for a story about the surface record. I completed four questions, and included details, but in bite sized form hoping they would get into the story because they were concise points. The reporter even asked if his assessment of my story about NCDC’s treatment of me, mentioned here was correct.
Here is the resulting story: The clouds of unknowing
What resulted for days of back and forth and carefully providing answers that I thought would be concise enough was this one sentence in response, even thought he reporter agreed in the email exchange that I had been “poorly treated” by NCDC.
A recent analysis by Matthew Menne and his colleagues at America’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, published in the Journal of Geophysical Research, argued that trends calculated from climate stations that surfacestation.org found to be poorly sited and from those it found well sited were more or less indistinguishable. Mr Watts has problems with that analysis, and promises a thorough study of the project’s findings later.
Heh. Such balance and accuracy in reporting by the Economist.
It was certainly not worth the effort I extended with the reporter, so I know how Mr. Lewis feels. Will I lodge a complaint with PCC for misrepresentation? No.
On that note, the rebuttal paper to Menne et al is looking better and better.
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This latest kerfuffle reminds me of an article I read a few years ago, “Nine Things for Scientists to Think about Before Talking to Reporters”:
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20040621/science.html
Paul
This whole story is now so garbled that soothing Prof. Lewis’ ruffled feathers won’t make it any clearer. And the reporters probably can’t published a correction without introducing more distortions.
Excellent! Finally someone is standing up to the misrepresentations of science reported in the press. There are some shockers in the Telegraph too, for example the report on the recent Geophys. Res. Lett. paper on Amazon drought. I don’t think the journalist even bothered to read the paper.
I don’t think the complaint will go anywhere…
BUT, this could be the opening shot by AGW advocates to attempt to shut down free speech.
Warmists can’t win on the science, so now they go into repression.
Tyranny & intimidation to impose their world-view.
A sign of desperation? Yes.
It must rejected, put down and exposed for what it is — intellectual repression.
Before anything could be said about the Amazon forests and before anyone could say anything about them , there is one point to be clearly specified: It must be consulted with the real owners of the amazon forests, the countries involved, if this is not the case, then it would be flagrant foreing intervention and meddling into internal affairs of those national states.
International NGOs have many times tried to attain an international agreement for declaring the amazon basin and forests as a “patrimony of humanity”, undoubtedly with the purpose of making big business with the so called carbon credits and carbon shares. This has been strongly rejected in the near past and will be undoubtedly strongly rejected in the future.
Do whatever you want to your OWN countries and your OWN people but just keep your hands off from the amazonian countries.
Direct quote from Simon Lewis, Jan 2010, “The Nature paper is about the interactions of logging damage, fire and periodic droughts, all extremely important in understanding the vulnerability of Amazon forest to drought, but is not related to the vulnerability of these forests to reductions in rainfall. In my opinion the Rowell and Moore report should not have been cited; it contains no primary research data.”
Quote from Simon Lewis, Mar 2010, “it’s important to protect my reputation in terms of providing accurate scientific information to the public.”
Obviously they can’t be the same Simon Lewis’s, one is a tropical forest expert based in Leeds, England, and the other is a tropical rainforest expert based in Leeds, England.
I wonder if they have ever bumped into each other.?
“Amazon rain forest” exists because humans did – nothing. It developed as natural evolution of flora and fauna.
Now suppose “humans” bulldozed the forest right to the ground, and berried it 10 m deep, leaving nothing but scorched earth.
What do you think would be there thirty years later?
It doesn’t take a professional Climate Scientist to understand: “there is a wealth of scientific evidence suggesting that the Amazon is vulnerable to reductions in rainfall”
In other words, “a rainforest needs rain” But that’s a long way from demonstrating that man-made CO2 causes reduction in rain. You could just as easily say that increased temperatures increase ocean evaporation, and that increases rainfall. But you would have to prove that too.
“He added that “there is a wealth of scientific evidence suggesting that the Amazon is vulnerable to reductions in rainfall”. What the hell is this supposed to mean? I can “suggest” that the moon is made of green cheese! That doesn’t mean it is.
PaulH (09:49:10) : “This latest kerfuffle reminds me of an article I read a few years ago, “Nine Things for Scientists to Think about Before Talking to Reporters”:
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20040621/science.html
Great link, Paul. here’s Number Ten:
Science is dead.
Calum (09:57:44) :
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“it’s important to protect my reputation in terms of providing accurate scientific information to the public.”
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Translation: “Oh crap! They’re going to cut my funding for not supporting the narrative! I’d better backtrack.”
More red herrings and straw men; they won’t stop and they’ll keep coming up with new ones. They have no other arguments left.
Speaking of rainfall: http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2010/2010GL042468.shtml
Anyone care to hazzard a guess what the trend would look like if a start date of 1900 (instead of 1950) is used?
Can’t wait for your the rebuttal paper to Menne et al. When is it out?
REPLY: We are finishing up the final analysis sections. It’s late becuase we had to scrap the first paper, and re-purpose towards a response to Menne et al thanks to their professional discourtesy. – A
“poorly written and bizarrely referenced”, I’m sorry – does not constitute “correct”, except maybe in Johnny Depp’s recent movie. I think Lewis’s “Lobster Bisque Dance” does, however, do justice to Carroll’s work.
I see his point, though, that the Amazon is “vulnerable to reductions in rainfall”. Can’t argue with that “factual analysis”- my houseplants do not do well when I don’t water them!
It’s the 40% figure that was pulled out of the thin air (rather, the ozone-replete air inside the IPCC’s desktop computers)!
If you really have few truly valid sites, how can anyone say that hordes of compromised sites are “indistinguishable” from good ones? Then why have any standards for siting at all?
Of course, after you wash, bleach, sanitize, and homogenize you either have low fat yogurt or bland one-size-fits-all data.
Isn’t GW suppose to produce higher temperature, more evaporation from the 75% of the globe’s surface, (vapour being very efficient GH gas driving temperatures even higher), more humidity and consequently more condensation, more precipitation, or that was explanation for the extra snowfall this winter. Isn’t GW meant to cause a ‘greenhouse’ effect? Any of these scientists ever entered a greenhouse?
Looks like the counter will hit 40 million some time tomorrow …
“The public deserve careful and accurate science reporting.”
Agreed. Shame we’ve had to put up with all the alarmist drivel for the last 10+ years!
What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
I wrote “berried” and I meant to write “buried”
So because the reference is supposed to be the IPCC’s proof of what they say, he’s saying the IPCC sentence is fake but accurate?
Years ago I was interviewed by a newspaper reporter who wanted to do a story on an article I had written. I was shocked when I read the story. When I complained to my boss about the mistakes the reporter had made, he agreed the story was inaccurate, but thought it was more interesting than my article.
MattN (10:22:20) :
Speaking of rainfall: http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2010/2010GL042468.shtml
Anyone care to hazzard a guess what the trend would look like if a start date of 1900 (instead of 1950) is used?
Yes, it would look like a series of seismic events, forward or reversed, depending on station and region. The longer the period you use, the more of these ‘event’ trends you would see.
At least Mr. Simon Lewis’ lawyer is employed
It seems to me that some people need to be VERY careful when they complain about inaccurate reporting. How many blatantly inaccurate media reports have we all seen?
The media reminds me of a manager I used to work under… his stories were all very plausible until the day I heard him tell a story about something where I WAS THERE… and that was the day I realized he was a pathological liar. His embellishment and subtle alteration completely changed the spirit of what happened.
Maybe everyone who believes “the media” is somehow unbiased and honest needs that kick in the backside that wakes them up.