Forecasts call for another 20 inches of snow in Washington DC with snow spreading to NYC this time.
Feb. 8 (Bloomberg) — Storm systems barreling across the country may bring as much as 20 inches (50 centimeters) of new snow to Washington and Baltimore starting late tomorrow, while New York may receive a foot, forecasters said.
With the Washington-Baltimore area still digging out from a weekend storm that left record snowfalls in some areas, the latest blast of winter “is going to be accompanied by heavy winds, which will make it feel worse, and across the Northeast that wind is going to last through the weekend,” said Tom Kines, a meteorologist with AccuWeather Inc.
A winter storm watch was posted today by the National Weather Service for New York, Long Island, southern Connecticut, Rhode Island and southern Massachusetts. A winter storm warning was posted for Washington starting at noon tomorrow, and 10 to 20 more inches may fall, the agency said.
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Mother nature and Ted Kennedy have impeccable timing, don’t they?
With the moon at maximum South declination today on the 9th of February, we are again seeing a surge of moisture, making up the southern half of the secondary tidal bulge, forming on the East side of the Rockies.
That will follow the inertia already imparted on it, into the Eastern USA, producing snow and freezing precipitation, for at least the next 4 days before it leaves bound for the British Isles.
For a look at a new paradigm, Lunar declinational, natural analog weather forecast, that saw this coming two years ago, click on following link to website, a work in progress, still in the Beta stages of production.
http://www.aerology.com/national.aspx
Differences between the site’s posted “forecast” and the actual weather may be due to the difference in solar cycle activity levels from the past three cycles, (when the sun’s activity levels were higher than now.) Tends to move current frontal positions further South than in the past.
Plots of the past precipitation patterns are compiled from 6am date of forecast reference date, till 6am the following morning, as such the tracks are not expected to be repeated in entirety, till 6am the morning following the forecast date.
I dunno. I am looking at that buildup on the gulf coast and starting to worry that this one could be bigger than the one before.
I don’t like what I am seeing on that RADAR loop one bit.
http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/index_loop.php
Hey Obama, are they still wimps in DC?
Rotten snow!
And one thing I have noticed over the years, forecasters rarely get Nor’easters right. They are just too finicky. A few miles one way or the other makes all the difference. I have seen forecasts of 10 or more inches of snow fall as an inch of rain or a forecast for a dusting turn into a dumping of a foot. The exact amount of snow to expect from a Nor’easter has to be one of the hardest calls in meteorology. You just sort of have to watch it as it develops.
If they are correct about this forecast, then Wednesday’s evening commute could be dangerous, especially up towards New York City.
They are not talking about lazy flakes of sticky snow that you can make a snow man with. They are talking about the dry, sifting stuff that doesn’t stick, flying like needles on howling winds. More like the Dakotas than the East Coast is used to. Visibility could drop to zero in white-outs, and wind-chills drop to zero.
It only takes one dumb driver to stop all the traffic on an expressway. Then you are going to have people sitting in cars, depending on their heaters because they will not be properly dressed to go for a walk in the gale-force wind.
I am always amazed by how poorly some people dress for winter driving. They always assume they can dash from a heated home to a heated car to a heated office. Wednesday evening will not be a good time to make this assumption.
It likely will be a good day to leave work at noon, head home, and hunker down. Fortunately it doesn’t look like the storm will slow down and stall. It ought head out to sea in a hurry.
Meanwhile we may get strong winds but only an inch, up in southern New Hampshire. We’ve had snow-cover since December, but its starting to look a bit worn and moth-eaten. The snow-shields of all these storms are shunted south of us.
The following storm looks like it will lay down a stripe of snow across the deep south. Then, for a few days, we may have snow-cover from Canada clear down to the Gulf of Mexico.
Albedo effect, anyone?
Any news on how the local wind farms helped the electricity generation figures during the storm?
I remember when that same system hit Northern California last week with heavy downpours. It really put a damper on my running routine. We had a nice break over the weekend but of course now it’s raining again! Thanks a lot El Nino.
I saw somewhere that GCM’s can’t predict the AO two weeks in advance. No intuitive intellect? Looking at the AO Index the global warmists must be worried.
http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao_index.html
crosspatch (00:48:19) :
I dunno. I am looking at that buildup on the gulf coast and starting to worry that this one could be bigger than the one before.
It was a real gully-washer when it blew through Houston yesterday. Y’all up there in winter wonderland can expect some more of O’Bama’s shovel ready stimulus jobs.
Speaking of the carbon cycle, I see where Rep. Murtha has gone carbon-neutral.
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I particularly enjoy watching Mordor-on-the-Potomac catch pastings such as these we’ve experienced. Drivers in that area (and to the immediate south thereof) experience snow so rarely that most of them lack the skill to handle it. Those of us bred and taught in northern climes learn early how to deal with icy roads.
Heck, I took (and passed) my driver’s test at age 17 on roads precisely as snow-covered and treacherous as they are right now in the Mid-Atlantic states. It was in February, too, come to think on it.
The lightest dusting and there are cars with Virginia and DC license tags in the roadside ditches, and if one has the time to put up with the astonishing clumsiness of the ones who can (barely) keep their own vehicles on the asphalt, it’s quite entertaining.
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That’s an awful lot of snow going to end up being on the ground at one time.
After the cold comes the melt.
I’m looking at the same situation on the opposite coast. Reversvoir has budged much for the last 2 months. When the clouds clear on a rare day it’s obvious why. Ain’t been melting much. Still, they are jumping up & down screaming drought. The polys don’t seem to get it, 200% of normal water content in the snowpack. Might as well call it Lucy : “Charlie Brown, you blockhead !”
Crossing fingers that Washington will get hammered with 20 inches of snow every second day…
Come on snow gods !
crosspatch (00:48:19) :
I don’t like what I am seeing on that RADAR loop one bit.
I’m loving it 😉 The more that hits DC the better… (Besides, that means it’s finally left here!)
Brian Johnson uk (01:26:35) : Any news on how the local wind farms helped the electricity generation figures during the storm?
Saw a ‘teaser blurb’ on some mindless news show about wind turbines in somewhere back east (Minnesota? Wisconsin? I donno…. wasn’t really listening closely…) that were frozen and not turning. The hydraulic fluids and lube oils were setting up to jelly. The California manufacturer said that “had not been consulted about climate suitability” or some such…
(he googles)
http://climaterealists.com/index.php?id=5068
Looks like it was Minnesota …
I am from Australia and I have to apologize for the inordinate quantity of global warming that you are suffering from. We have been assured by our erstwhile minister for the environment, that only the methane co2 and other green house gases from farts and burps of camels is only relevant to the Kyoto protocol if the camels are privately owned. Perhaps 200 in OZ are in this catagory. Mean time one million feral camels, not native to Australia are invading towns, destroying fences,crops and pasture. The touchy feelly greens have prohibited the culling or destruction of these green house monsters. The Kangaroos are having serious competition. We have considered arming the Kangaroos but the restrictive gun laws stopped them having a competative edge.
That is why I feel compelled to apologize for it is obvious that our feral camels are the root of the intense global warming that has been inflicted on you by our inappropriate actions. Sincerely your Wayne
Here comes the snow again, winter is almost over but the snow seems not giving up that easily. i hope everyone prepare for this to avoid huge problems.
Not Amused (03:20:39) : “Crossing fingers that Washington will get hammered with 20 inches of snow every second day…”
Glad you are amused “Not Amused”. This storm will probably have a death toll to go with it. If you remove the entire government from ‘THIS’ area, you’d end up with a hell of a lot of good people, even including those that actually do work for the Government! Most of them would probably also take exception to your gleeful finger crossing and your exceptional lack of compassion for your fellow human beings… IT IS A SERIOUS SITUATION.
I know this post has no value (as Not Amused has no value) and I’d be surprised if it even makes it through, but I’m here trying to learn.
[Reply: Why would your comment not be posted? This is not one of the blogs promoting AGW by censoring opposing comments. If you are polite and reasonable, your comments will be posted. ~dbstealey, moderator]
They need to tell Al to leave!
So much for “Lake Effect” snow.
“Gulf of Mexico Effect” seems to be beatin the pants off it.
Inquiring minds ask “How can it be so cold down there and so warm at the Winter Olympics in Vancouver?
I guess the cold weather go tired of being “up North.” Browse these:
Canada
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp2.html
and the USA
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp1.html
Ha! Payback for the earlier glaciers!
OK, here south of DC we had 30″ of snow in the past week, Sat -Sat. Remember that does not include the 15-17″ pre-Christmas storm. So this one will drop another 6-12″ (or more) we can never tell with a NorEaster. A record year? Maybe, and it couldn’t have come at a better time. Cooling temps and now record snows in that ole DC, what’s better to stop the Cap & Trade BS?
Oh, I almost forgot, a different administration is the answer to that last question.
Any news on the drought that global warming caused in Georgia (U.S.) over the last couple of years? Seems like that has gone the way of other AGW “evidence”.
Tucci 02:10:40, Look out, I’m one of those drivers. I got my driver’s license at age 14, saw snow stick on the ground for the first time at age 20 and drove on snow for the first time at age 35, when I moved way up north to DC. I’m your worst nightmare on a snow-covered roadway…
Oh dang, likely little snow in New Hampshire. Last storm all we got was a light cloud cover and wind. I’m still hanging on to my paltry 3″ (8 cm). Ah well, it looks like the snow is going to a good home. Anything to slow down congress is a Good Thing(tm) .
Looking ahead, I’m hoping for a couple big March storms here when the storm track finally moves back north.
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crosspatch (00:57:04) :
> And one thing I have noticed over the years, forecasters rarely get Nor’easters right. They are just too finicky. A few miles one way or the other makes all the difference.
One reason for that is continental storms often transfer their energy to a new storm that forms off the coast. Exactly where that point is provides an initial starting point for the track. The biggest uncertainty is along the fringe of the storm. I drove to work in one blizzard that was clobbering Massachusetts. The first snow I saw was when I reached the northern border of Nashua New Hampshire, work was near the southern border, just before Massachusetts. Every exit had nearly another inch on the ground, but I made it to work before traffic was impacted, and there were 6″ in the parking lot.
New England, especially along the coast, is a mecca for meteorologists who like a challenge. The best are willing to admit their forecast was wrong.
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Caleb (01:18:47) :
>I am always amazed by how poorly some people dress for winter driving. They always assume they can dash from a heated home to a heated car to a heated office. Wednesday evening will not be a good time to make this assumption.
For a while, especially when I’d often drive to Plymouth NH late at night, I kept a warm sleeping bag in my car. There are just too many stories about people sliding off the road in a snow storm and being found days later.
I have a long commute, I’m always amazed at the number of people here who don’t have snow tires. I like to claim that “all season” tires are great in Florida. They’re great here too in winter – most of the time. And then people get in the passing lane and are afraid to move back right. Once after a toll booth all the traffic wound up in the passing lane which had visible pavement. The right lane was well (not too well) packed snow and I had it all to myself for a few miles.
I don’t really seek out drives in the snow any more. The drive I had in the Blizzrd of ’78 really can’t be improved on. Any additional challenge would have left me stranded.
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Tucci (02:10:40) :
> The lightest dusting and there are cars with Virginia and DC license tags in the roadside ditches, ….
Sometimes that’s the most dangerous. When 1/4″ of snow packs down into a thin icy coat, you can skid and not stop. The trick, of course, is to not skid, except is safe areas where you can test the traction.
When there’s 3-6″ on the road, then ice isn’t much of a problem and if you do skid, the loose snow helps slow you down.
Ah well, I hope it’s been a learning experience down there.
And another thing – people who spin their tires! There’s still enough friction to heat up the tire surface to above freezing. Warm tire on snow makes wet ice and too little traction to do anything (like get out of the pit dug out by spinning tires).