Ummm Charles, about that train thingy you arrived on…

@ur momisugly Spector (09:52:10) :
“Perhaps the liberal press in the UK now see Climategate as a weapon against the throne.”
I don’t really think so, I think it’s seen as a weapon against government in general – an institution with which we are thoroughly cheesed off in Britain at the moment. This week we’ve had announcements (more) about the way our honourable gentlemen and women in both Houses have been ripping us off, only having to pay small amounts back; next we get the details of which of them are going to be prosecuted (some of them had to be) and that’s only four, when there were many others who should have been busted too. In the background, regular folk who don’t know much about climate and take the standard line on it as gospel, get a few stories about the scandal but probably from the bbc, so not a lot really. Back to X-factor, anaesthetise.
We’re the most spied upon nation on earth, God knows how many millions of cameras watch us every where we go. The government behaves like an old Soviet regime, regulating and taxing anything that moves (and pretty soon, that breathes) and imposing thousands of unnecessary laws that create criminals out of law-abiding people for piddling little things, when criminals are treated as objects of therapy not punishment. Civil liberties have been tossed aside, liberties that once were worth fighting and killing a king for. And on, and on.
But nobody really cares much about the Windsors. They’re there, they’ve always been there. They don’t run the country even though Phil the Greek and Citizen Charles might like to (so long as they could get someone to get them up in the morning and do their teeth for them). They do the dressing up and the handshaking and the knighting (very necessary), the medals etc etc. Some of us grumble about it, most don’t. Everybody knows Charlie is a bit dim and everybody compares him unfavourably to Her Maj (who keeps schtum, very wisely).
No. What we’re sick of is the liars and thieves who tell us to do what they say, not what they do. I expect it will hardly come as a traumatic surprise to the nation that climate scientists have been fiddling and lying too, frequently to their own personal benefit. Authority? Integrity? We use two fingers, not the transatlantic single digit, as a signal of disdain, taunt, jeer, what have you. That sums up how most of us feel about this when patronising rich tossers tell us that we’re going to have to pay for their mistakes – yet again.

Gail Combs (11:12:27) :
Control of the media is all that is necessary to get the east coast of the USA and the EU to believe it.
Fortunately the MSM is now the Blogosphere, and WUWT is most read science blog…then it follows…

There are royal hobbies and there are Royal Hobbies. Chuckles would not be so flamboyent and plastic if the government didn’t want it that way.
There are government hobbies and there are Government Hobbies. The government would not be so flameboyent and pathetic if the people didn’t want it that way.
“You are what you eat.”

sorry, “the one” not “he one”.

“The whole modern eco-movement is based on a serious of false premises derived from ignorance. Thank you Rachel Carson”
Wrong – in fact the start of the eco-movement pre-dated Carson by several decades. It can be traced back to pre-war Germany and was very strongly associated with the rise of the Nazis: http://www.spunk.org/texts/places/germany/sp001630/peter.html
The Green Party also had its rise in Germany – and Greens now hold office in the EU as well as the German Parliament.
I’m not accusing Prince Charles of eco-facism – I’ve a lot of time for his ‘small is beautiful, local is best’ philosophy. He learned a lot of it from Laurens Van Der Post, champion of the Bushmen and the earliest strong influence on Charles. But he is now advised by the wrong people, Porritt included. I’m not sure whether Zac Goldsmith is also an advisort – I would imagine so; there many links between the families. All the Goldsmiths were well ahead of the Environmental fashion.
I agree that ad hominem attacks on Charles sit very uncomfortably in this blog (esp by the non Brits on here who don’t seem to appreciate the point of a Constitutional Monarchy). The man means well, however misguided he is. Tragically his mother has signed away his right to protect our Parliamentary democracy; I wonder if he understands this? So his opinions don’t matter in the least – our Envirmonment policy is handed down more or less 100% by the EU in Brussels
And if you want to use a belittling name, it’s ‘Charlie’ (not Chucky which doesn’t exist in the UK). ‘A right Charlie’ also happens to be slang for ‘a right idiot’, btw!

This is why inbreeding is a bad idea.

The mere fact that there are so many (238 now) comments on this topic demonstrates the value of Prince Charles’s profile to any movement that he supports. This is a rather high response rate on this site. The quality of his comment is irrelevant. As the old saying goes ‘any publicity is good publicity’ and that is the way that the promoters of AGW would see it. Poor old Charlie boy is genuine but a manipulated dupe.
He adds the voice of the ‘establishment’ to the ’cause’. That is all they want of the dear old chap.
Of much greater concern to me is the loss of sovereignty of Britain to the unelected mandarins that dominate Europe at present. It is their agenda that is being ‘foisted’ onto Britain against the people’s will as far as I can ascertain.

THIS GUY MAKES AL GORE LOOK SMART
His Royal Haughtiness says we’re on the clock, only 96 months to go (7 months ago).
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/07/prince_chuckleh_4.html
Fortunately for us, the last communication from planet Gonzo told him to give us more time (we used to only have 18 months)
http://globalsham.blogspot.com/2008/05/gasp-prince-charles-predicts-18-months.html

Allan M (13:48:37) :
I used to hang around with these sort of people (I even know a guy (David Lorimer (haven’t seen him for years)) who wrote an adoring book about the Right Charlie). They talk a lot about a ‘holistic approach.’ But how can they have a holistic approach when they don’t understand 90+% of what they are talking about?
Once you’ve adopted a holistic approach, which can be thought of as trying to understand the whole picture, the first step is asking “What all don’t I know?” If you are honest in the approach, not understanding tends to correct itself, as the individual pieces won’t fit together if you don’t know what they are and how they work.
To put the term in context, this site is a testament to a holistic understanding of climate. The “other side” said “Ah-ha! It must be the CO2!” and devoted themselves to justifying that conclusion. Here, we can see how complex the issue is and are trying to work out the relationships of all the interconnected systems, accepting we don’t know everything about them and may not even know all the systems that exist. Besides, that’s what the pursuit of science is all about. First step is saying “I don’t know.” The next step, at least as critical, is saying “But I intend to find out.” Accept the ignorance, honestly work to correct the ignorance, and it ceases to be a problem. Even among those sort of people.

And to see how all aspects of our lives in the UK are bound up with the AGW scam:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100025163/why-does-the-british-council-spend-money-on-climate-change-propaganda/
‘Nevertheless, taxpayers will be pleased to learn that the money is in good hands. Head of the programme is the famous Dr Viner, formerly of the East Anglian Climatic Research Unit. It was he who in 2001 was telling The Independent that within a few years winter snowfall would become “a very rare and exciting event”.’