Here in the USA, WUWT readers probably don’t have a true handle on the firestorm that is going on in India over Pachauri’s “glaciergate”. It is making headlines and the people there are quite angry, because they’ve been led to believe that their Himalayan water supply was seriously threatened in the not too distant future (2035) as reported in the IPCC AR4, and now they find out it’s a bogus, and that a Pachauri peer now specifically admits the 2035 date was known to be false, and used anyway to scare policymakers into action.
Dr. Richard North, who co-wrote the first story with Christopher Booker of the Telegraph that got the inquiry started over two weeks ago, now says on an interview on Indian television that ” If Dr Pachauri does not resign voluntarily, he will be forced to do so.”
Here is video and partial transcript of that interview.
It was not until the Sunday Times last week actually highlighted it that he was forced to take action. And on that basis I don’t think he has any credible alternative but to resign and he is either going to resign voluntarily or as the media are increasingly saying he is going to be forced.
It is a very clearly recognisable tactic where he simply denies the undeniable and for a while if you are in a very elevated position you get away with it. He hasn’t yet recognised that his position is already untenable and the more he denies, the way the media works the more evidence they are going to find until such time as his denials will be so lacking in credibility that he will be unable to operate .
Transcript via Liberty New Central.
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Did I hear him claim he was elected by acclamation? Can they redifine that to 57 versus 49? Orwellian newspeech, again!
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2191-top-climate-scientist-ousted.html
From the Times of India;
He might take offence at that, given his reasonable head of hair.)
E.M. Smith – that’s my point. I don’t accept the IPCC’s previous claims on those secondary affects. But to me that doesn’t undermine the core AGW proposition.
BBc news 24 just did a report on the himalayan glacier farce and described pachauri as the “worlds top scientist”….
Complaint sent, choo choo charlie does not count as a scientist.
vibenna (14:34:36) :
I don’t accept the IPCC’s previous claims on those secondary affects. But to me that doesn’t undermine the core AGW proposition.
A house of cards doesn’t take much undermining. I think Miscolczi did it pretty effectively.
Pachauri was on the tv [BBC NEWS] this evening totally denying any sort of wrong doing and vowing to serve the rest of his term at the head of the IPCC CLIMATE SCANDAL.
He still maintains without a shred of any doubt that CLIMATE CHANGE is real.
In that assertion he is of course correct climate has always changed and always will. I am of the belief that we are heading for cooler times. He is convinced we are heading for warmer times. He seems arrogant to assert that he knows what the future will bring and not that he believes such.
ABSOLUTE POWER……….
Interesting link here to the Pachauri family http://www.environmentdaily.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=158
Mapou (22:48:01) :
TerryBixler (22:11:18) :
Will Obama and Lisa Jackson notice or will their ties to
Gore and AGW politics continue to blind them and harm us.
Obama and the Democratic Party will do nothing until they see a clear sign that voters will be voting for the opposition in huge numbers.
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I think they will continue doing the same as they’ve always done and the only way they will stop is when are out of power.
Just vote for someone else.
Rob (03:52:26) :
“China has ‘open mind’ about cause of climate change,
But Mr Xie, China’s vice-chairman of national development and reforms commission, later said although mainstream scientific opinion blames emissions from industrial development for climate change, China is not convinced.”
THIS IS A DISTINCT AND IMPORTANT CHANGE!
I remember when the extreme cold weather hit Biejing seeing Mr Xie quoted as saying ‘This does not invalidate AGW’, or words to that effect.
China being what it is he will not be saying this without government backing! This could signal a shift in China towards a non-AGW natural cycle policy. The recent revelations are bound to help them in the right direction.
That would really put the cat amongst the pigeons!
This link is well worth a look [posted on this thread previously]
http://www.ihatethemedia.com/12-more-glaciers-that-havent-heard-the-news-about-global-warming
Basically they are reports from around the world that glaciers are growing. Many seem to think that they are an exception as we all ‘know’ glaciers are on their way out!
Can we have a universal ‘truth’ that all glaciers are retreating, with the exception of 90% of them!?
Does anyone collate this information? I would like to see a nice graphic by percentage of glaciers advancing and retreating, broken down in to bands by cubic metres of ice gained and lost [Simply breaking in to bands by metres gained and lost does not discriminate between glaciers 50 metres high and 500 metres high!]
Errm! Not quite sure if that idea fully makes sense, but hopefully you get the idea.
Andrew (23:27:00) : Thanks for the link Andrew. I went and read it before reading your post and was struck how he resorted to Ad Hom, Off Subject (Smoking) but it was his…
“It is clear that increased CO2 and other greenhouse gases are causing climate change”. That gets me ever so slightly wound up! (My latest line to prevent the snip 😉 .
Notice the use of “and other greenhouse gases”? Thats the 4th time this week I have seen/heard AGW people sneak it into the debate.
We all know, after all our efforts, the figures for natural C02 and the “man made” portion. After all, that is what we want to debate. We have never said that other parts of the atmosphere do not have a “greenhouse” effect! So we are now supposed to do something about purely natural occurrences?
Maybe he will run into the “Good Lord M” during his lecture tour and Lord M will give him a little real science.
Pachauri will be replaced by another UN liar who will continue to do exactly what Pachauri was doing…. The media will cover for them with grand words portraying rebirth and virtue, while whipping Pachauri often.
But the UN will not have changed… It will just be sneakier and better prepared. Our Governments will take more of our money and more of that money will find it’s way into the UN.
Forgive my pessimism. But I find that Big Government is obscenely efficient at duplicity.
Sorry,I pasted the wrong link above,here is the open one
http://gains.iiasa.ac.at/index.php/component/content/article/157-past-meeting-announcements-apd/290-household-energy-database
Monckton told us today in his lecture in Sydney that he has shopped Pachauri for making more than declared for a UK charity.
‘Twas a fine lecture, and I understand ABC were there, so it may get some air time.
John A (21:48:39) :
I vote for Steve McIntyre for the next IPCC Chairman. He’d ensure that only science was published and not Hockey Sticks.
I second the motion!