EPA's CO2 endangerment finding challenged today in the U.S. Senate

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Anchorage Daily News

Murkowski tries anew to block EPA regulators

By ERIKA BOLSTAD

http://countenance.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/lisa-murkowski.jpgWASHINGTON — Sen. Lisa Murkowski took her battle with the Environmental Protection Agency to the floor of the Senate today, saying she was left with no choice but to fight a federal agency she believes is “contemplating regulations that will destroy jobs while millions of Americans are doing everything they can just to find one.”

The Alaska Republican announced she would seek to keep the EPA from drawing up rules on greenhouse gas emissions from large emitters, such as power plants, refineries and manufacturers. Murkowski did it by filing a “disapproval resolution,” a rarely used procedural move that prohibits rules written by executive branch agencies from taking effect.

“If Congress allows this to happen there will be severe consequences to our economy,” Murkowski said. “Businesses will be forced to cut jobs, if not move outside our borders or close their doors for good perhaps. Domestic energy production will be severely restricted, increasing our dependence on foreign suppliers and threatening our national security. Housing will become less affordable.”

She was immediately countered by Sen. Barbara Boxer, chairwoman of the committee that has done the most work on climate-change legislation: the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee.

Murkowski’s disapproval resolution would essentially throw out the process by which the EPA found that greenhouse gases endanger public health, Boxer said.

She called Murkowski’s resolution an “unprecedented move to overturn a health finding by health experts and scientific experts in order to stand with the special interests.”

Murkowski has as co-sponsors 38 fellow senators, including three Democrats: Sen. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Sen. Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas and Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska.

Her move has prompted an aggressive response by environmentalists, who launched a radio and television advertising campaign in Anchorage and Washington, D.C., that focused on the role two industry lobbyists had in writing Murkowski’s original proposal last fall.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid also criticized Murkowski’s effort, saying recently during an event in New York sponsored by the Geothermal Energy Association that Murkowski’s proposal was “misguided.”

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Great!

Mike Ramsey

Smart political move by Sen. Lisa Murkowski. But the best thing that could happen is for this to get thrown into the courts; Why? Discovery!
Mike Ramsey

Steve Goddard

Apparently the Democratic leadership learned nothing from Massachusetts on Tuesday.

Fred from Canuckistan . . .

a brief moment of sanity in US political life.
Go girl go.
Time to kick some EPA bureaucratic butt.

vg

Video seems to have been hacked..? just checking with others

Harold Blue Tooth

countered by Sen. Barbara Boxer
poll numbers show Sen Boxer does not have job security. November is coming soon

Harold Blue Tooth

Alaska seems to be producing brave women

JohnD

You go, Sen. Murkowski, and tell them to keep their Eco-cult Carbon Fetish off my body.

Harold Blue Tooth

Steve Goddard (16:07:30) :
Apparently the Democratic leadership learned nothing from Massachusetts on Tuesday
LOL!! Correct!
They are clutching with white knuckles a ship that is going down

John F. Hultquist

Sen. Barbara Boxer called Murkowski’s resolution an “unprecedented move to overturn a health finding by health experts and scientific experts in order to stand with the special interests.
Hog-waste, or hogwash >> These Democrats such as Boxer wouldn’t know a health expert or scientific expert from Al Gore. They spend so much time raising money to get re-elected that they haven’t learned anything new in years about science. They probably don’t even know about the bubbles in sparkling wine.
Three cheers for Lisa Murkowski and the 38 co-sponsors, including the three Democrats: Sen. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Sen. Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas and Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska.

Mike Bryant

What’s going on? Has the world just awoken from some huge progressive sleep?
I hope people are finally realizing the nightmare huge government has in store for us!!!

John from MN

Wouldn’t a bill in the senate like this need 60 votes? If so just a token bill, with a message. I think the best place to get this EPA over thrown is ion the courts. Their findings would no way hold up in court. Why? The only epirical evidence they have is a flawed temperture record that says in the last 150 years the temperture has a 1/2 of one degree anamoly. And that doesn’t one any shape or form say all that maybe 1/2 degree was caused by GHG. We need to get this in the courts ASAP and it will be struck down in a heart-beat…John…..

Kevin Kilty

Wow! I have never seen this before. However, I want to hear the executive branch argue that elected representatives cannot challenge administrators.
The debate ought to be a hoot.

vg –
seems to work OK for me.

BTW, Senator Inhofe has the Head of the EPA on record in testimony to Congress saying that America acting unilaterally to reduce CO2 will do nothing to stop global warming.

UK Sceptic

“Murkowski’s disapproval resolution would essentially throw out the process by which the EPA found that greenhouse gases endanger public health, Boxer said.”
Hoorah to that!

Lisa Murkowski is a courageous Alaskan woman. Alaskan women are generally tougher and more practical than the run of the mill american prima donna princess who can’t chance cracking her precious nails.

royfomr

Steve Goddard (16:07:30) :
Apparently the Democratic leadership learned nothing from Massachusetts on Tuesday.
Could they learn something from this, Steve?
It runs to 149 PDF pages and, if read, digested and acted on, could yet snatch a political victory from the jaws of defeat for a lucky few!
Anthony ran an extract for a recent thread. The full document is breathtakingly brilliant as it forensically dissects ClimateGate. Actions, actors and all.
The document.
Climategate Analysis From SPPI
by John P. Costella 
The link
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/reprint/climategate_analysis.pdf
i’ve never heard of John Costella before but I’m just about to Google (or Bing) to complete my education.
If you haven’t already done so, read the link. IMO, this will be regarded, by history, as a pivotal document of the 21st century.
Thank you John.

Pamela Gray

I am rapidly becoming a fan of Republicans! I hope that once they have my interest, they don’t go all faith-based white on me. On this same note, I am liking the new Mass. Senator Brown very much. What an interesting character. He has tweaked noses on both sides of the isle.

The revelations of Climategate challenge the scientific authority of the IPCC and leave their moral authority in tatters.
It’s time for the Supreme Court to reconsider Massachusetts vs. EPA where the majority opinion was based strictly on an appeal to authority argument.

Mom2girls

The EPA edict is about destroying our industry and standard of living. Nothing more.
Now, who would benefit from destroying our industry. Anyone we know?

JAY

CO2 is evil. Coca Cola is full of it. Every can should be confiscated.

Craig Moore

She seems to have the balls male members of the senate can only wish they had.

cbdakota

Congress will not pass a bill in 2010 that would regulate and tax CO2. But the EPA can regulate CO2 unilaterly. Something is wrong with this picture. So, let’s support Murkowski. While I would hope the liberals would oppose her, I don’t think the smarter Democrats will, fearing for their re-election chances.
Cbdakota

Doug in Seattle

I agree with Mr. Ramsay above. While I don’t have particularly high hopes that the case will be wholly successful, discovery will open a can of worms so distasteful to the American people that the EPA and the Administration will be forced to start from scratch on the science of greenhouse gasses.

Bill McClure

The Cattlemen of the United States have also filed a lawsuit in opposition to the EPA findings on CO2.

MikeEE

Awesome job! I think Sen. Murkowski covered this perfectly.
MikeEE

HereticFringe

Go Lisa go! We need to restore sanity to our country, and stop the hemoraging of out industrial base and job market.

HankHenry

Lisa Jackson, the head of the EPA and the person who made the endangerment finding, has already said that she thought the whole matter would be best handled by the legislature…. though I’m not sure she would have anything good to say about this initiative.

D Caldwell

WOW!!!
Congrats to the 38 senators on the resolution.
Special congrats to Sen. Lincoln from the great State of Arkansas! (my home)

Honest ABE

Aren’t those the democratic Senators who got kickbacks in their healthcare bill?
It seems that they are trying to save their careers now.

Alphred

When Dr. Charles Krauthammer first brought this to my attention, I wrote to my Michigan senators (both Democrats) pointing out that our state’s leadership in national unemployment would only be accelerated if this EPA ruling was allowed to stand.
Not having received a response from either to them (surprise!), I now note that they are not part of the bi-partisan coalition to stop this insanity.
Leadership in unemployment. No leadership in the Senate. Coincidence?

Ralph

I think I love Lisa!

old salt

Pamela Gray – “I hope that once (Republicans) have my interest, they don’t go all faith-based white on me. ”
I take it you’re a troll? How can this possibly add to the conversation?

Pascvaks

The term “clear and present danger” comes to mind. CO2 is not a clear and present danger. See this link for the “latest” on ozone affecting the West Coast –
http://www.brightsurf.com/news/headlines/51884/Study_links_springtime_ozone_increases_above_western_North_America_to_emissions_from_abroad.html
“Springtime ozone levels above western North America are rising primarily due to air flowing eastward from the Pacific Ocean, a trend that is largest when the air originates in Asia.”
Boxer needs to go to China.

Craig Moore

old salt, Pamela is not a troll. She makes many very worthy contributions to these discussions.

ShrNfr

Can we put Babs in a box of pure argon. Please? No, I am not being serious, but Babs thinks argon is a laboratory not a gas.

TerryBixler

We have more to do to stop the hemorrhaging of jobs, but this measure is a start to stop the EPA’s attempt to take over legislation. The AGW agenda needs to be fought at every turn.

TeresaV

Well one of the main climate researchers at NCAR, and an IPCC member Kevin Trenberth says adaptation should be the key strategy to deal with GW/AGW.
When one of the top climate members who says there IS AGW also say that the effective thing to do about it is make sure we are able to adapt as needed that Should tell the world and especially the government that funds him not to kill business with a cap and trade bill. Especially a rats nest bill of choking red tape such as what came out of the U.S. House of Representatives. But since when do politicians listen to scientists, let alone have the ability to understand the actual matters.

ajstrata

Not trying to spam, honest. But those GISS emails Judicial Watch received under FOIA has some amazing stuff. Would you believe GISS admits they have NO evidence of AGW in the US data (even though it is the best on the planet) and don’t expect to detect any evidence for 2-4 decades!
http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/12532
If true, NASA admitting there is no AGW in the US should be a boost to the case against the EPA!

MarkA

Maybe she saw this time series graph of Alaska annual mean temperatures which shows no warming in Alaska over the past 30 years.
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/marka/tmean.alaska.annual.1980-2009.gif

royfomr

old salt (17:12:28) :
Pamela Gray – “I hope that once (Republicans) have my interest, they don’t go all faith-based white on me. ”
I take it you’re a troll? How can this possibly add to the conversation?
Pamela, until recently was a life long democrat, proclaimed recently that she had turned independent. She’s also one of the most respected, and cleverest, commentators on this site.
Methinks, Auld Saline, you’ve dropped a clanger! Never mind matey, you’re still welcome. You may have to put your hand in your pocket thought because of that gaffe!

u.k.(us)

as soon as i hear “jobs” i stop listening.
just more politics.
nothing about science ?
just playing the angles, so far.
that will change.

Graeme From Melbourne

Harold Blue Tooth (16:17:35) :
Steve Goddard (16:07:30) :
Apparently the Democratic leadership learned nothing from Massachusetts on Tuesday
LOL!! Correct!
They are clutching with white knuckles a ship that is going down

Not surprising – when have they ever learned from facts??? When your whole thought process is ideologically driven, facts are no consequence.
I think that a lot of Democrats and some Republicans will find that not paying attention to the “political facts” of the american public’s mood will cost them their jobs next november.
pride goeth before a fall…

Here’s more news along the same lines:
http://westinstenv.org/sosf/2010/01/21/the-epa-and-the-data-quality-act/

The EPA and the Data Quality Act
Last week Sen. John Barrasso (Wyo.), Sen. David Vitter (La.), Rep. Darrell Issa (Calif.) and Rep. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (Wis.) sent a letter to EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson expressing concern that the EPA’s recent “endangerment finding” regarding CO2 violates the Data Quality Act.
I’m guessing you never heard of the Data Quality Act (DQA). I hadn’t, either, until today. The DQA is not an Act per se; it is a statute that was attached to an appropriations bill in 2000 (Section 515 of the Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act for Fiscal Year 2001 — Public Law 106–554; H.R. 5658). Section 515 directed the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to:
… issue government-wide guidelines that “provide policy and procedural guidance to Federal agencies for ensuring and maximizing the quality, objectivity, utility, and integrity of information (including statistical information) disseminated by Federal agencies.”
The OMB did so by defining what the quality (including the objectivity, utility, and integrity) of information means, in the legal sense. The OMB guidelines also established:
… administrative mechanisms allowing affected persons to seek and obtain, where appropriate, correction of information disseminated by the agency that does not comply with the OMB or agency guidelines. …
The four Congresspersons cite the Climategate emails and IPCC 4th Assessment as information the EPA relied upon that does not meet the tests of the DQA. They requested that EPA Admin Lisa Jackson conduct a review of the information the EPA used in their endangerment finding, and that she report to Congress as the whether the DQA was violated. …

FerdinandAkin

1. IPCC admits error on Himalayan glacier melt fiasco
2. U.N. abandons Copenhagen deadline – countries not signing on – spokesman says the deadline has gone “soft”
3. Scott Brown (Republican) wins Senate seat in Massachusetts
4. Air America Radio files for bankruptcy
5. Supreme Court rules against McCain / Fiengold extending First Amendment ‘rights’ to campaign spending.
[b]And there are still two days left in this week[/b]

old salt (17:12:28) :
Pamela Gray – “I hope that once (Republicans) have my interest, they don’t go all faith-based white on me. ”
I take it you’re a troll? How can this possibly add to the conversation
nope. she’s a regular since before i discovered wattsupwiththat. but, this is typical. i just ignore it now.

Indiana Bones

Finally some kind of common sense arrives in Congress. You have got to wonder why it is that it has taken til now to challenge a “finding” that a naturally occurring trace gas and the effervescent in beer, wine and soft drinks – is a POLLUTANT?? Good for you Lisa!
The joy in this is only (slightly) countered by the very sad news that Air America has crashed into Chapter 7 BK. Golly, we… won’t miss ya at all.

Robert Kral

I’m ashamed that my senators from Texas didn’t think of this first. Good job, Lisa. Of course, Congress can always make an amendment to the Clean Air Act, which is the basis for EPA’s action (at least I think it is), stipulating that CO2 cannot be treated as a pollutant. To accomplish that, only a majority vote would be required (unless there is a filibuster). Whether the Pres would sign it is another matter, but by the time the litigation has run its course we will probably have a different President anyway.

Ed Scott

Godfrey Bloom: Master of the understatement.
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