I’ve watched part 4, which had an early release. The video is cheering, and supported with a multitude of graphics and interviews. “Chiefio” aka E.M. Smith and Joe D’Aleo make strong appearances.
Here is the KUSI introduction:
A computer programmer named E. Michael Smith and a Certified Consulting Meteorologist named Joseph D’Aleo join the program to tell us about their breakthrough investigation into the manipulations of data at the NASA Goddard Science and Space Institute at Columbia University in New York and the NOAA National Climate Data Center in Ashville, North Carolina.
E. Michael Smith kept a blog of his findings. See his site by clicking here.
Joe D’Aleo has written a detailed report on the findings. It is available here .
I have written a blog about this important climate news development. It is available by clicking here.
D’Aleo wrote an outstanding article on Climategate. It is available here.
You can read about the English Climategate leaked or hacked files at the Anglia University Climate Center at this newspaper site.
And, there is a US connection with the original Climategate, as well. Professor Michael Mann, of Penn State University, is in the middle of it. Here is the latest on it.
All five parts of the video are now online.
Click below to watch each segment of the KUSI Special Report, Global Warming: The Other Side
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I looked at the Giss data and discovered 34 references to Canada using the “find word” function. Searching the total list, however, found 510 stations being used. The descriptions of province and counrty are less than helpful so I may have, due to geographic challenges, have missed some.
So, what am I doing wrong. The list of stations actually being used is much longer than described above?
Thanks:
John
Eric Smith (05:53:50) :
Technically Monckton was a science policy advisor.
As for you not seeing any left wing politics in the developed world, you have to be kidding,
Communists in Copenhagen
Obama’s Czars,
Anita Dunn – Obama’s Communications Director:
Anita Dunn: “I turn to Communist Killer Mao Tse-Tung as my Political Philosopher (Video)
Carol Browner – Obama’s Climate Czar:
Browner is an environmental radical – and a socialist (The Washington Examiner)
Obama Climate Czarina Was Member of Socialist Group’s Environmental Commission (Fox News)
John Holdren – Obama’s Science Czar:
Obama’s science czar suggested compulsory abortion, sterilization (The Washington Examiner)
Ron Bloom – Obama’s Manufacturing Czar:
Ron Bloom: “I agree with Mao” (Video)
Van Jones – Obama’s Green Jobs Czar: (Resigned – September 5, 2009)
Van Jones, ‘Green Jobs Czar’, a self-described ‘communist’ (The Examiner)
Van Jones, ‘Green Jobs Czar’, wants eco-capitalism (Breitbart)
Eric Smith (11:32:26) :
You lost me on your comic book fantasies about America controlled by the CIA and big business funding communists. I thought you actually wanted a serious discussion, instead it devolved into conspiracy fantasies.
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Eric Smith (11:32:26) :
Stanley Monteith reoported that one of McCarthy’s sub committees discovered that the communist party of America was funded by big business. I suspect I know vastly more about right wing politics than you do.
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Well, you are correct in that a lot of big corporations have jumped on the green bandwagon – I don’t appreciate it either, but their charge is to make money, so they go along to get along – kind of distasteful.
But it is too funny you bring up McCarthy. When I look at the commie/socialists in Barry’s world, I wish McCarthy had been more successful because he had it figured out!!
As if increasing the dosage of logical fallacy will somehow improve the quality of his bootless vituperation, Eric Smith again spouts argumentum ad hominem with regard to Christopher Monckton (failing to address the substance of Mr. Monckton’s arguments), even apparently attempting to imply that because Mr. Monckton has won some favor with Holy Mother Church that he’s part of some sort of papist pederastic plotting or other.
Eric Smith goes on to write:
“In my view, all that is happening is that the left support AGW because they think it will control capitalism, which is a lie, the right oppose it because they think it is socialism, which is a lie.”
It’s hard to claim that any opinion broadly held (by either those on the right or those on the left of the rather duplicitous political spectrum) is “a lie.” It may be wrong or it may be right, but whether the person professing such an opinion is lying cannot be decided merely by reading yet another opinion (that of Eric Smith) which is advanced without a shred of support.
Capitalism (formerly called “the free market,” and the phrase still fits) is merely the macroeconomic manifestation of individual rights in a division-of-labor society, and as such is a facilitating and harmonizing system of organization whereby consenting human beings exchange value for value according to their considered desires and abilities.
Socialism, on the other hand, has nothing to do with consent. Opposition to socialism is therefore an honorable and praiseworthy position, and I would think more of “the right” if most of the politicians on “the right” were not thoroughgoing grafters, religious whackjobs, racists, and bedroom-peeping bluenoses.
Not surprisingly – for political effort is tiresome and full of troubles, and loathesome motivations are not the exclusive prerogative of people like Eric Smith – the pundits and professional politicians on “the right” are for the greatest part the kinds of people you would not leave alone in your living room and expect to come back and find your dog un-raped.
What we call “the mixed economy” is effectively made up of reasoning human beings striving to survive in spite of Eric Smith’s type of authoritarian dirigisme, and the extent to which the people who suffer under Eric Smith’s ideal form of predatory and strangling civil government can evade those depredations and impairments determines to what extent the quality of life for the average citizen can be improved.
The issue lies not between Eric Smith’s “left” and “right” (both of which exhibit authoritarian characteristics), but rather between authoritarianism and individual liberty.
Being rational and recognizing that the reasoning nature of the human being is the essential characteristic by which he must live (indeed, without which he cannot even survive), I favor individual liberty.
Eric Smith – and I can only infer his motives – is obviously an authoritarian.
This is thoroughly illogical, malevolent, and conducive to breach of the public peace and the destruction of civil order, and therefore Eric Smith must be considered a public nuisance at the very least.
To the extent that he undertakes political action on the basis of the positions he has articulated here, he is an enemy of the people in general, and must be treated as such.
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To all aspiring politicos on this site:
Don’t you think that if tax-payer funding (via government) of these NGOs was cut completely and they were stripped of their dubious charitable status that the political situation would be alot clearer ?
Some people need to be doing some serious jail time after these revelations.
Thortung writes:
“Some people need to be doing some serious jail time after these revelations.”
Appropriate though it would be to see Dr. Hanson, Dr. Schmidt, Dr. Mann, Mr. Gore, and all the other participants in the AGW fraud sent to prison for the rest of their natural lives, the problem with criminal prosecution is proving criminal intention – mens rea – in each case.
Multiple crimes have undoubtedly been committed. If nothing else, falsely applying for federal research grants and agencies’ operating budgets is fraught with criminal penalties. The difficulty is in proving that Dr. Mann (for example) knowingly lied in the application by which he got his latest $541,000 out of the “stimulus” funds to further pursue his AGW propagandizing.
While these people are definitely too stupid to be given e-mail accounts, they know how to cover their butts in grant applications.
It may be best to hit them with civil lawsuits undertaken to seek material and punitive damages from them instead. Rules of evidence are not anywhere near as restrictive, and there are literally millions of people in America alone who have been substantially injured as the result of the professional incompetence and the dereliction of duty with regard to professional ethics demonstrated by the CRU correspondents and the warmist bureaucrats in NASA and NOAA.
These should be quite actionable, and should be pursued vigorously.
Mr. Gore in particular has been flaunting the proverbial “deep pockets” that mark an individual for the special attention of the ATLA membership, and I have no doubt that he has come into focus for many folks in the plaintiff’s bar since 17 November.
Court calendars all over America are going to be very interesting reading over the next couple of years, I think. Particularly in areas where jury selection will likely engage large numbers of citizens available for such service as the result of unemployment.
I’m late on all this stuff because I’ve been behind the Great Firewall of China.
This is absolutely extraordinary. I’ve just checked out my database of raw data downloaded from GHCN v.2 available through Realclimate http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/#Climate_data_raw
and I’ve seen it with my own eyes
I divided the stations into those which are live in the data at some point from 2005 onwards compared to all the others. See graph at http://crapstats.wordpress.com/
I hope WUTW can post an update about what has been previously said about why this happens – there must be a lot in the public domain – surely this cant be new news but I can’t find it and an authoritative list of resources would be much appreciated.
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Nemesis (02:39:50) :
To all aspiring politicos on this site:
Don’t you think that if tax-payer funding (via government) of these NGOs was cut completely and they were stripped of their dubious charitable status that the political situation would be alot clearer ?
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I am for the government to quit funding all NGOs (an anything that remotely resembles them) and also all scientific research. The only way funding of science would be acceptable to me is if the money were divvied up per head (per researcher heads in a university) irrespective of the research in question. In other words, without bias on the part of the government. The government could still fund defense research – one of its Constitutional powers being defense. This would conserve money in the US (we are a debtor nation and getting poorer by the day).
Setting aside Eric Smith’s comments, what makes you think big business IS NOT funding communists, including the AGW/CAGW Alarmists, and such funding is nothing more than “comic book fantasies and conspiracy fantasies? Are you claiming none of the AGW/CAGW Alarmist leadership is knowingly participating in a conspiracy, or that conspiracies to control U.S. Government policies, including Global Warming or Climate Change, do not or cannot exist?
D. Patterson asks of Eric Smith (our Sunstein socialist):
“…what makes you think big business IS NOT funding communists, including the AGW/CAGW Alarmists, and such funding is nothing more than ‘comic book fantasies’ and conspiracy fantasies? Are you claiming none of the AGW/CAGW Alarmist leadership is knowingly participating in a conspiracy, or that conspiracies to control U.S. Government policies, including Global Warming or Climate Change, do not or cannot exist?”
It may well be that Eric Smith is freelancing here along the lines recommended by Barry Soetoro’s advisor Cass Sunstein in his paper “Conspiracy Theories,”: published on 15 January 2008. Think of Eric Smith’s postings as “cognitive infiltration” of the type advocated by Mr. Sunstein and Mr. Vermeule in that rather astonishingly fascist publication.
Clumsy “cognitive infiltration,” but nonetheless an effort to cast specious doubts within an online forum where the majority of participants are quite receptive to the well-reasoned consideration of malfeasance on the part of the warmist CRU correspondents and AGW-pushing federal government employees at NASA and the NCDC.
It must be understood that people like Eric Smith – and Cass Sunstein – who wish to hold political power over their neighbors are by definition psychopathologically dysfunctional, and either proximally or distally a danger to other people.
They presume definitively and without question or qualm to know what is good for their fellow human beings, how those “sheeple” should be herded, husbanded, shorn, and slaughtered. They do not value the dignity and worth of the individual H. sapiens at all, and consider themselves somehow intellectually and morally superior to the “lesser folk,” the little people, the contemptible mob.
That emphatically includes us “global warming skeptics.” You know. Us “deniers.”
Setting aside the illogic and the insanity of people like Eric Smith and Cass Sunstein (and their beloved Barry Soetoro), how does the naked viciousness of their attitude make you feel, hm?
I don’t know about you, reader, but I’m afraid I’ve got this wholly Sicilian urge to convey Eric Smith and Cass Sunstein to someplace where the water is deep enough, and see how long it takes for the bubbles to stop coming up.
I’ll try to deal with that urge, but I can’t promise restraint on the part of my fellow “lesser folk.”
D. Patterson (11:04:36) :
Prove big business is funding communists, it is illogical for one and not substantiated for two.
Climategate has shown a coordinated effort between activist scientists who are associated with RealClimate, NASA GISS and CRU and environmental groups like greenpeace to push an alarmist agenda.
I am claiming that eric’s statement is conspiracy fantasies. Can you not read what I wrote?
You’re mistaken. The questions were directed to Poptech, who is denying “big business is funding communists.” I’m setting aside Eric Smith’s comments to ask Poptech what makes him think some big business IS NOT funding communists (not to mention communist support of AGW activism and alarmism).
Tucci, renting the boat is too expensive. The ideal, and perhaps most ironic, costs about $2. Simply pour the contents of a can of oil-packed tuna on the heads of the two miscreants and drop them on the shore of Hudson Bay somewhere north of Churchill. Having had direct encounters with the creature that is at the top of the food chain in the north, it will take polar bears (DEFINITELY plural) about an hour to pick up the scent. It’s akin to ringing the dinner bell. And nary a trace would remain
Poptech (12:55:57) :
Prove big business is funding communists, it is illogical for one and not substantiated for two.
Gad. How many times have we been over GE/Shell/BP/etc funding AGW and particularly government control efforts related to it in an attempt to gain favor with the bureaucrats and gain advantage for themselves?
The problem with internet debates is not that they never end, it’s that they’re the same EVERY DAY.
Between the megacorps and government grants, warmists are funded to many, many times the level of the skeptics. That’s been documented here repeatedly, and I’d go grab all those links and make a huge link farm, except that I know there will be a short pause and then the demand for proof will be made again as if it had never been provided.
Because, after all, that’s what just happened.
Paul Vaughan (18:14:36) : Re: E.M.Smith (16:27:05)
I think you probably figured out my comments were offered in light humor.
Yeah, I knew it. But it was bugging me that I’d cut too soon, so I used your jest as jumpting off point for my stating the errata…
What do you make of this?
http://www.sfu.ca/~plv/JN_QBO.png
http://www.sfu.ca/~plv/JN_fQBO.png
http://www.sfu.ca/~plv/JN_fQBO..png
And this?
http://www.sfu.ca/~plv/JN_Pr.png
I’d plant crops by it! (Or place stock bets..)
The interesting thing is the times when they go out of phase…
That just says that you have problems when you leave your Saturn out and that you can’t ignore uranus… 😉
IMHO, of course…
Steve J (21:41:51) : What does E.M.Smith say about this virus?
Nothing. I’ve seen no virus.
It was because I could read and understand what you wrote that I was affording you an opportunity to explain why you choose to think any statement claiming “big business is funding communists” can only be a comic book fantasy.
You say it is illogical for big business to fund communism, yet you fail to recognize that big business is sometimes owned and operated by illogical people who illogically believe in socialism and communism.
You say it is unsubstnatiated for big business to fund communism, yet I cannot see any evidence you have investigated and refuted the public sources which show funding by corporations and corporate charities to so-called Leftist charities supported and staffed at least in part by communists, coummunist sympathizers, and Marxist socialists.
For example, are you implying the membership and/or leadership of Greenpeace does not include any overt or covert communists and big business does not fund Greenpeace?
NikFromNYC (01:19:29) : Your blog tends to plot long columns of number instead of present graphs, so summaries are indeed sorely needed (!).
Sorry. But:
a) I have the ability to see what numbers say and see the patterns in large blocks of numbers. They work fine for me, and for many others.
b) Presenting the numbers lets anyone else do whatever they want with them, including graphs. Most folks could not get the GIStemp code running nor get the “blocks of numbers” to work with. I took on THAT chunk of this near infinite problem as it was stopping up so many other folks efforts.
c) I do not “do” graphics well. I have at best a crude level of skill at it. Further, I’m running on boxes the newest of which is 10 years old. That is, the sofware is crappy too. Now I’d love to run out and buy a new Mac with all the latest eye candy toys on it. You gonna give me the money? ( I presently have no job. I’m “making ends meet” trading stock in my retirement account, but it isn’t easy and I’m NOT rich. Yet 😉 It is also the case that, despite all the trolls saying things are funded by oil companies, I see them giving support to the AGW side. I’ve not had a single penny of income from this. So everything I’ve done is all volunteer. I get to make choices like: “new computer for graphs, or pay car insurance?” Decisions decisions… )
d) There has been time pressure to make this happen fast. (i.e. Copenhagen et. al.) So I had to choose. 1) Spend 6 months to a year getting better hardware and software and learning to make pretty pictures and miss the window of opportunity. or… 2) Run with what I’ve got, do the best with it that I can. Let other folks make graphs if they want (they have the data). I chose #2. And I think the results show it was the right choice.
I’m not convinced that GISTEMP is garbage…far from it…
Nor do I think it is “garbage”. It, IMHO, has issues. Lots of them. But they are relatively modest (mostly UHI and some homogenization). It does, to some extent, do what it claims to do. The realization of that, and the discovery that it was NOAA / NCDC via the data “adjustments” that was “the big fish” is why I’ve basically not had a GIStemp posting for the last couple of months. (Don’t worry, I’ll get back to it 😉
What I’m fairly certain of, beyond doubt, is that there is an INTERACTION between the NOAA / NCDC data changes done in GHCN and USHCN and the operation of GIStemp. I can not speak to motivation, but it sure looks to me like each delivers half a dose of poison so neither can be accused of killing the truth. NCDC GHCN drops cold thermometers and says “The Anomaly will fix it”. GISS says “we are not responsible for the data”; then has processing that is sensitive to thermometer deletions in cold places in times more recent than the baseline. But points to a “peer reviewed” paper saying anomalies fix things in a hypothetical way. Well, I’m not interested in a hypothetical cow, I’m interested in where is the beef in this specific pile of Bull.
John McManus (14:41:01) : I looked at the Giss data and discovered 34 references to Canada using the “find word” function. Searching the total list, however, found 510 stations being used. […]
So, what am I doing wrong. The list of stations actually being used is much longer than described above?
The “shell game” is this: YES all those stations are used. IN THE PAST.
Then the cold ones are taken out and shot about 1990 leaving the warm ones in for CURRENT data. So you end up comparing LIMITED WARM CURRENT stations to MANY OLD COLD stations. But, hey, they are all “used” in GHCN 😉
See the wonderful graph posted by “crapstats” here:
http://crapstats.wordpress.com/2010/01/17/global-warming-dropping-the-stations/
where you can see the warm “keepers” and the not warming “tossers”.
Now just compare the “kept” warmers with the “in the baseline” cooling stations…
“E.M.Smith (15:36:26) :
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Then the cold ones are taken out and shot about 1990 leaving the warm ones in for CURRENT data. […]”
Captain, we’re running out of thermometers.
Sean Peake advises that “renting the boat is too expensive” and enjoins that when it comes to dealing with Cass Sunstein, Eric Smith, and their ilk, it is better to “drop them on the shore of Hudson Bay somewhere north of Churchill,” scented to draw the attention of Ursus maritimus.
While the poetry of this solution is not disputed, the expenses associated with such an expedition considerably exceed the cost of signing out a boat. Besides, there are plenty of docks all along the eastern seaboard. Also bridges, barges tied up at quayside, and places in the Pine Barrens where a bit of work with a shovel and a sack of quicklime can serve a similar purpose, and you don’t have to drag anything heavy very far from the trunk of your car.
The woodlands around the Carranza Memorial are particularly useful, and have something of a traditional value among the Families of the metropolitan area.
Merovign (14:06:17) :
GE, Shell and BP are not “funding” AGW, they are positioning themselves through public relations to make themselves out to be environmentally conscious companies, they are also lobbying governments (especially in GE’s case) to make a profit from any future environmental regulations. This has nothing to do with “funding communism”.
You say ridiculous things like “megacorps” as if a larger corporation is evil but a small one ok.
What has been documented here? Please show me the corporations funding outright communists with the knowing intent to push communism.
D. Patterson (14:55:09) :
The statement is an absurdity, many large businesses donate to causes they believe in, none have anything to do with outright communism, some are “progressive” and socialist leaning but no large business is going to knowingly fund an economic system that would destroy themselves. Which is why the comment is absurd. The big businesses that donate to greenpeace do so out of PR, not because they are funding communists.
You guys keep repeating “big business” as if there is something wrong with a business being big.
Tucci: or perhaps they could become cornerstones in their communities?