John Coleman's hourlong news special "Global Warming – The Other Side" now online, all five parts here

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boballab (10:30:08) :
Sean Peake (08:45:56) :
Boballab
Could you not download the page, print it out and then apply an OCR to it?
When you start out from the page you have to select the state from a menu, then from that you get a menu of all the stations fro that state, you select one and from that it takes you to another menu that runs by year and month. So for the year 2008 and for State College PA, there is 12 different links and you have to select each one. From there it searchs their database and gives you a link to the page which is this:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/orders/B79A3FEA-2CD5-646F-43D8-F54CBBBC0CEF.PDF
Now this opens up a seperate window with that PDF page in it.
Now here is the kicker: For just this one station that goes back to 1893 that means pulling up roughly 1,392 pages (if no months/years missed on the record). So I can’t see putting out the cost of the ink/paper to print out almost 1,400 pages, then spend the time to scan it back in just for 3 readings per page.
Also some of the PDF’s do not have good scans of them and the stuff is very faint, here is and example of that:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/orders/D29AE247-5EC6-01C9-01CF-703CC32182F1.PDF
Now imagine doing that process for all the stations in the USHCN dataset (roughly 1200).
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Link to available data on cd rom I have been able to search for station records with active program to retrieve RAW DATA $51.00 online store price
I am not sure about the “Update disk” but the rest of the set seems to be real original raw data…..
http://ols.nndc.noaa.gov/plolstore/plsql/olstore.prodspecific?prodnum=C00447-CDR-S0001
(description of product)
“These CD-ROMs contain ASCII data files and associated station history files for the Cooperative Summary of the Day (DS3200) data set. Recently updated through 2006, this data set is a compilation of daily observations from more than 20,000 cooperative weather stations in the United States, U.S. Caribbean Islands, U.S. Pacific Islands, and Puerto Rico. It includes air and soil temperatures, rainfall, snowfall, and evaporation elements. A map interface is available on the Eastern, Central and Western Disks. The period of record on these disks vary among stations but falls within the period from the 1850s through 2001. The Update Disk contains compressed files for 2002-2006 and also includes DS 3210 data which comprises just the “first-order” National Weather Service sites (the same stations are also in DS 3200), but also includes some additional data elements that are not reported by Cooperative stations. The files are in the raw, archive format without any software for conversion to a spreadsheet ready format.”

This is a great effort presented at a level for all to understand.
I only hope their servers are up to the load.
Yet there are still those on this site who seem to fail to grasp the the significance of the massive data fraud that E.M.Smith and others have discovered.
This site seems to have some AGW trolls (or maybe they are just religious fanatics) that would rather comment after viewing one segment.
The presentation was very well done and we all owe kudo’s to all of the participants and especially Mr. Coleman.

Paul Vaughan (20:59:10) :
Hey Paul can you recommend me any good reading on the Global Atmospheric Angular Momentum?
And hell, while you are at it, the QBO, too.
Any links or recommendations would be appreciated.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

Re: Poptech (Jan 15 21:01),
Sorry, Poptech. I didn’t see your complete listing, and didn’t mean to tromp on you.
(I am running the version of flash player you mention, and javascript was enabled.)

Poptech: Right on. Good posts. A virus in Flash… come on, Man!

Eric Smith (22:06:16) :
Why don’t you take your accusations up with the Viscount himself.
Now there is a time difference so there may be a lag….but I emailed your post to him.
I am sure he will have a detailed response for you.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

savethesharks & poptech: here’s hoping he will cc you on the response and you post it. I imagine Eric Smith will be bleeding from every orifice afterwards.

savethesharks
I have already told Monckton what I think of him. His lectures are good, but the oppositiion see him as a gift. So do I.
Poptech
Monckton was not a science adviser, he had some extreme right wing ideas which appealed to Thacher and became a minor economic adviser in the number 10 policy unit. His accusation of a proposed communist world government following Copenhagen is insane, I see no left wing politics in the developed world. Monbiot ripped him up in the Guardian for that.
You don’t know whether Monckton is correct, any more than you know whether Hansen is correct. I actually agree with everything he says, and he presents the information extremely well, but he is a very loose cannon who actually admits to lying. That is inherited, aristocratic arrogance and he has lots of that.
Sean Peake
I can handle Monckton. He sent me a mad email and I told him, he was playing up to the right wing Americans on the lecture circuit for money (and laughing at them).

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Eric Smith (22:06:16) :
I stopped watching when he lied about Monckton being a scientist, lied that he had a phd and lied that he had been a science advisor to the British government.
Monckton is an eccentric, right wing clown who has the money not to have to worry what anyone thinks of him. In my opinion, he is a liability to the anti AGW cause.
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You appear to be a hack, Eric Smith.
From: http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/personnel.html
Lord Monckton, UK: — Christopher, Third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, was Special Advisor to Margaret Thatcher as UK Prime Minister from 1982 to 1986, and gave policy advice on technical issues such as warship hydrodynamics (his work led to his appointment as the youngest Trustee of the Hales Trophy for the Blue Riband of the Atlantic), psephological modeling (predicting the result of the 1983 General Election to within one seat), embryological research, hydrogeology (leading to the award of major financial assistance to a Commonwealth country for the construction of a very successful hydroelectric scheme), public-service investment analysis (leading to savings of tens of billions of pounds), public welfare modeling (his model of the UK tax and benefit system was, at the time, more detailed than the Treasury’s economic model, and led to a major simplification of the housing benefit system), and epidemiological analysis. On leaving 10 Downing Street, he established a successful specialist consultancy company, giving technical advice to corporations and governments. His two articles in the Sunday Telegraph late in 2006 debunking the climate-change “consensus” received more hits to the newspaper’s website than any other in the paper’s history: the volume of hits caused the link to crash. His contribution to the IPCC’s Fourth Assessment Report in 2007 – the correction of a table inserted by IPCC bureaucrats that had overstated tenfold the observed contribution of the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets to sea-level rise – earned him the status of Nobel Peace Laureate. His Nobel prize pin, made of gold recovered from a physics experiment, was presented to him by the Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Rochester, New York, USA. He has lectured at university physics departments on the quantification of climate sensitivity, on which he is widely recognized as an expert, and his limpid analysis of the climate-feedback factor was published on the famous climate blog of Roger Pielke, Sr. His lecture to undergraduates at the Cambridge Union Society on climate change has been released by SPPI as Apocalypse? NO!, a full-length feature movie on high-definition DVD (available from http://www.greatswindle.com). Apocalypse? NO! been described by Professor Larry Gould of the University of Hartford, Connecticut, “as one of the best films ever made…”

Poptech had written:
“…Lord Monckton does not have a Ph.D. but he did introduce him correctly as the science adviser to M. Thatcher. This was not the only error I noticed in the videos but I am not going to get into them here.
“Monckton however does get his information correct and has a better grasp of the issues then the politicians making policy decisions on it. He is hardly a liability, he has an incredible memory and fantastic speaking ability to communicate things down to the layman. Unlike Gore, Lord Monckton is a mathematical genius which is why he is much more formidable as a skeptic then you realize. Do not underestimate him, write him off or hold him accountable for something he never stated.”
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Eric Smith falls into the logical fallacy of argument from authority as well as argumentum ad hominem in his attack on Mr. Monckton. Smith presses the value of credentialing – having one’s “union ticket” as it were – in the form of a graduate degree, as if compliance with the qualifications process of an accredited academic institution were either necessary for someone’s opinions to be taken seriously or had some value as utterly reliable validation for the degree’d individual’s opinions on a subject within that degree’s discipline.
In addition to being a statist* (of the coloration currently popular among America’s ascendant socialist cabal), Eric Smith is decidedly not literate in the sciences.
Were that the case, he would understand that the source of an idea or argument – the person articulating a concept – is irrelevant. It might as well be wholly anonymous. The notion itself must be considered on the basis of its intrinsic validity.
The question, therefore, isn’t Mr. Monckton’s background, his curriculum vitae, his political or pecuniary motivations, or anything else. Instead, what Eric Smith must address are Mr. Monckton’s arguments, the information he predicates those arguments upon, and whether or not that information and the arguments developed thereupon are valid.
This Eric Smith has failed even to attempt, much less accomplish.
To be a statist – a socialist, a fascist, a “Liberal,” a progressive, whatever they’re calling themselves this week – one must necessarily disable one’s reasoning ability. Human beings are not hive-dwelling insects or wool-bearing domestic animals but autonomously functioning individual creatures who are not only capable of reasoned thought but necessarily survive through the exercise of that reasoning function.
Thus we have developed the conceptual tool of individual rights, negative rights to life, to liberty, and to property, in order to permit human beings to live in each other’s company, and to facilitate the division-of-labor economy that so important for the material prosperity of reasoning creatures. In these United States we have deliberately structured civil government for the explicit purpose of protecting those rights.
Statism necessarily involves the systematic violation of individual rights, and Eric Smith is therefore inescapably a person who publicly advocates violence against his fellow human beings. No getting around it, I’m afraid.
This is in itself quite irrational, of course. It comes as no surprise, therefore, that Eric Smith should stumble haplessly into errors of logic every time he posts, and that the implacable logic and skeptical integrity of the scientific method should be utterly beyond his grasp.
Good heavens, no wonder Mr. Monckton’s efforts have driven Eric Smith completely bugnuts.
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* “The political expression of altruism is collectivism or statism, which holds that man’s life and work belong to the state — to society, to the group, the gang, the race, the nation — and that the state may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own tribal, collective good.” (Alisa Rosenbaum O’Connor, 1962)

Jim
The nobel peace prize is a pathetic Monckton fantasy, and the rest are probably fantasies too.
Tucci
Monckton seems to have a number of honours fom the Roman Catholic church, not the most freedom loving or democratic organisation in human history. Your ‘philosophy’ is uniquely American, a country controlled by its own security services (CIA) and phony right and left think tanks. All controlled by the mega rich. Stanley Monteith reoported that one of McCarthy’s sub committees discovered that the communist party of America was funded by big business. I suspect I know vastly more about right wing politics than you do.
Monckton actually said at his Minnesota lecture (paraphrase) “the reason you believed this nonsense is that you are yanks”. Then pretended it was a joke. It wasn’t. That is one of the things I pulled him up on.
In my view, all that is happening is that the left support AGW because they think it will control capitalism, which is a lie, the right oppose it because they think it is socialism, which is a lie. The two biggest ‘left wing’ newspapers in the UK, the Guardian (including Monbiot) and Independent were sponsored by Shell Oil to promote global warming. Monbiot’s family are very prominent right wing politicians by the way.
The truth is that Enron and BP created carbon trading at Kyoto and the IETA was the biggest pro agw group at Copenhagen. It represents the fossil fuel industries and the banks. The reason is free carbon credits for giant corporations.
http://www.ieta.org/ieta/www/pages/index.php?IdSiteTree=1249
This is FOE
http://www.angrymermaid.org/ieta

Not the greatest anti-CAGW show I’ve ever seen, but as usual, Mr. Monckton’s arguments are irrefutable!