Jeff Id of the Air Vent reminds me with a video recently made available that that Burt Rutan has been giving active lectures on his view of global warming. WUWT covered Rutan’s Oshkosh EAA presentation last summer, but we didn’t have video then, only his powerpoint presentation.
Burt Rutan – aviation pioneer, engineer, test pilot, climate skeptic. Note the car.
Rutan’s PowerPoint file is posted at:
http://rps3.com/Pages/Burt_Rutan_on_Climate_Change.htm
For those that don’t have PowerPoint, I’ve converted it to a PDF file for easy and immediate reading online which you can download here.
And you can watch the video as Rutan presents at EAA:
Stu (06:19:04) :
Thanks for posting this Stu. I had a mind to do it too. I think some people here don’t know who Burt Rutan is.
Good presentation with 2 weaknesses that unfortunately lessen credibility (if he got that wrong, what else is wrong). Fossil fuel reserves do not go up every decade, and declines of readily recoverable reserves have been hidden by reclassifying less available resources eg Canadian tar sands. The only evidence that Cap & Trade will make America less competitive is economic models that are about as reliable as climate models. The presentation is about global warming. Why introduce these inaccurate distractions?
AdderW (05:11:00) :
In a world growing ever hotter, Huancavelica is an anomaly.
The world is not growing hotter. It is cooling now. This is why it’s colder in Peru.
The link goes to The Guardian. And as you could expect The Guardian puts a far left spin on the story.
@David Kitchen. “give this site a wide birth”?? Too late, it’s already born. Perhaps you meant “wide berth”, which is probably wise if you intend to flounce off to other sites.
I see the AGW’er are in the same camp as Robert Mugabe, Hugo Chavez and that Iran-guy.
And I am int the same camp as Burt Rutan!!!
I just love that guy. Makes anything out of nothing.
Warms my heart.
@Mike Roddy
You are obviously well versed in the 25 rules of disinformation, several of which can be detected flying about your post like popcorn.
You obviously don’t know or care who Burt Rutan is. He is a world class aviation engineer.
Here is a partial list of his designs, four of which are on display at the National Air and Space Museum.
27 VariViggen
32 VariViggen SP
31 VariEze
33 VariEze (Presently on display at the National Air and Space Museum)
35 Ames AD-1
49 Quickie
61 Long-EZ
68 Amsoil Biplane Racer
72 Grizzly
76 Voyager (Presently on display at the National Air and Space Museum.
77 Solitaire
81 Catbird
91 Lotus Microlight
115 Beech Starship POC
133 ATTT
143 Triumph
144 CM-44
151 ARES
Pond Racer
202 Boomerang
281 Proteus
He obtained world fame with SpaceShipOne, the first privately funded spacecraft to complete a test flight into outer space in 2004. (Presently on display at the National Air and Space Museum)
Virgin Atlantic GlobalFlyer (Presently on display at the National Air and Space Museum)
SpaceShipTwo (in design stage)
White Knight Two (testing stage)
Don’t you think that a person who designed the above aircraft is intelligent enough to have a very good understanding of climatology after having studied it? I do.
I believe that Richard Branson is dyslexic. I also repect the man enormously and I suspect that Rutan is coming from the same angle. Lastly, believe nothing you read in the public media particularly when it in the nature of a personal, person’s opinion.
Mike Roddy
You said “but please do not put together Power Point presentations on a subject about which you know nothing.”
Perhaps you should tell that to Al Gore.
BTW Burt Rutan is an engineering genius. His knowledge of science is way beyond Al Gore who has no education in science.
@ur momisugly E.M.Smith (01:52:03) :
9600 baud? My first modem, Wang, for my first PC, a 386. 15 minutes to download a photo. Fun times.
Used a workhorse self-assembled P2, WinME with Norton Utilities just keeping it running. Used two different brand-name P3’s, but with on-board video they actually ran slower, no BIOS provisions for decisively turning it off and letting a video card handle the load. Never bothered with XP, too virus-prone. 56K seemed as fast as it could take, and I didn’t like what I was hearing about viruses and high-speed. Plus there were sites that spawned endless pop-ups until I physically pulled the phone line. If I was on high-speed..
Now I have a used P4 Dell, Debian Linux (needed an OS), with external modem to avoid internal “Win-modems” that may need proprietary drivers, if they would work at all. My ISP does have DSL, and while their site insists I need Windows their tech support says of course it will work with Linux.
But I want to be a whole lot better at Linux before I try getting that set up and running. Better to be patient for now and wait until I know my system, than get stuck with “emergency dial-up” hoping someone can fix it.
Burt put guys in space man. He is a guy who will go down in history as an engineering genius. Rick Branson won’t ignore what Rutan has said because he knows just how switched on the fellow is.
Now is it just me or has it been said elsewhere but . . . the CRU crew bent their numbers so they agree with GISS and NOAA. That being the case aren’t the other numbers bent too?
Jeff B. @ur momisugly 22:51 (hi, Jeff) correctly points out that Burt Rutan was also closely associated Paul Allen. Paul Allen is in some ways a ”one of a kind” guy; don’t know if he could also ever be convinced to see the light and say so publicly; but; yeah: You’re right; that would be huge.
SIDEBAR: Excellent comments by GeneDoc @ur momisugly 00:19 and toyotawhizguy @ur momisugly 08:11. . . . Actually, a lot of good comments by many WUWT regular readers.
While we should never underestimate the willingness of the politically-correct AGW faithful and their allies in the MSM to continue to blindly push their mantra regardless of continually mounting evidence to the contrary and the worst of the ClimageGate scandal (and, of course: Follow the money):
I let myself be guardedly optomistic that rational skeptics around the world continue to gain ground. If we’re not at critical mass yet, it feels like we’re getting close.
Also recall something Carl Sagan said on TV and in the many books he wrote:
There is a strange tendency and even eagerness for masses of people and many of their leaders to engage in a ”willing suspension of disbelief and critical thinking”. Especially since ClimateGate broke, the high priests of AGW and their legions of accolytes have more and more taken on some of the classic attributes of not just a religion but a cult (or maybe the medival Inquisition):
No deviation from the approved party line is tolerated; all who dare to do so shall be (at least figuratively speaking, in the modern era) burned at the stake, regardless of logic, reason, and evidence.
FOOTNOTE, again in the ”weather is not climate, but eventually it starts to matter” department:
Just in on cable news:
Record low temperatures and record snow fall in and around Beijing.
On the first video at the end where he is talking about ‘peak oil’ he mentions that the Bakken play in Montana, North Dakota and southern Canada has more reserves than Saudia Arabia, this is somewhat misleading. The Bakken is estimated by some to have upwards of 500 bbl; this is reserve/potential not recoverable. Recoverable oil in the Bakken has been estimated by the USGS to only be 4-5 bbl a significant difference. Saudi Arabia has 267 bbl of oil and that is recoverable oil.
When a person talks about oil/gas reserves it is disingenuous to speak of total reserves and not revoverable. If you can’t recover it it is of no value. Between the Bakken, Green River oil shales and reworking of older fields (as technology for recovery/production increases) the US has some of the highest petroleum reserves on the planet, but if you can’t get it you can’t use it. It is always interesting to see people fudge information to support their crusades.
Now don’t get me wrong, as a former geologist, I am all for producing as much energy domestically as we can. It is good business – keeps Americans working and stimulates the economy. I just hate half truths from anyone left or right.
Scipio
Ok I’ve listened. He produced data from sources that I have already seen and presented badly in the most awful ambiance.
I say that as a former professional presenter. That doesn’t means that what he said was wrong as Mr Kitchen said here. He didn’t prepare very well, I suspect, and didn’t rehearse and under those circumstances he did brilliantly.
Thanks to Anthony for bringing it to our attention.
Rutan is both an engineering genius *and* an old school environmentalist…That is, a pre-dogma environmentalists ,who did it because he thought it was a good idea, not because he thought the green-gods would punish him if he didn’t…
Mr. Kitchens and Mr. Roddy are clearly dogmatists.. They “believe in science” and don’t realize that there is no such thing as “believing in” real science… It is cold and factual, and *always* embraces the presupposition that it may easily be wrong at any given moment…
Green Movement zealots’ science has been proven wrong more times than anyone can count anymore, but that is irrelevant to them “the science is settled”…Because it never was science, as science is NEVER settled… They are a religion that has perverted science to reinforce the same Utopian vision that myriad others have tried before at the end of a spear…
Mr. Rutan is correct and proves it, and that really annoys the cult of the left…
mike roddy (16:16:25)
“I would be terrified to get in an airplane that you either flew or designed.”
Really?
* Aviation Week & Space Technology “Laural Legend” award (2002)
* Aviation Week & Space Technology Hall of Fame (2002)
* Aviation Week & Space Technology Current Achievement Award (2005)
* Collier Trophy for ingenious design and development of the Voyager and skillful execution of the first non-stop, non-refueled flight around the world (1987) and for designing and launching the first commercial manned launch vehicle SpaceShipOne (2004)
* Design News Engineer of the Year (1988)
* EAA Outstanding New Design (1975, 1976 and 1978)
* EAA Freedom of Flight Award, (1996)
* Engineers Council Clarence L. “Kelly” Johnson “Skunk Works” award (2000)
* Grand Medal of the Aero Club of France (1987)
* International Aerospace Hall of Fame (1988)
* SETP James H. Doolittle Award (1987 and 2004)
* Lindbergh Foundation, Lindbergh Award (2000)
* National Aviation Hall of Fame (1995)
* National Medal of the Aero Club of France (1987)
* Professional Pilot Magazine, Designer of the Year, (1999)
* Royal Aeronautical Society, British Gold Medal for Aeronautics (1987)
* SAMPE George Lubin Award, (1995)
* Scientific American Business Leader in Aerospace (2003)
* Time Magazine “100 Most Influential People of the World” (April 18, 2005)
* Western Reserve Aviation Hall of Fame, Meritorious Service Award (1988)
* National Model Aviation Museum Hall of Fame (2006)
Thanks for the 12 part link Stu, Amazing!!!
On the recoverable oil issue:
It is true that there is a difference between recoverable resources and total resources. However, it is also true that unrecoverable is an economic term. Both price and technology change this. Just look at the shale gas resources now “recoverable” in the US. We have used more fossil fuels since the 1970s than existed as recoverable resources in the 1970s.
Toyotawhizguy: “Don’t you think that a person who designed the above aircraft is intelligent enough to have a very good understanding of climatology after having studied it?”
Argument from false authority. Just because someone is an authority in one field does not make them an authority in another.
Bert Rutan may well be a brilliant aeronautical engineer. That fact does not make him an expert on climate science.
REPLY: following your logic then…
James Hansen – astronomer, mathematician
Al Gore – divinity school student, politician
Tim Flannery – Author, naturalist
Bill McKibben – author, activist
Please lodge your complaint against them here to demonstrate your unbiased view of who is an “expert” and should be listened to or not. – A
@ur momisugly Scipio:
The distribution of the Bakken play extends into Canada as well and that is not part of the USGS 2008 estimates. The distribution total, if even across the regions of Canada and the US may well get up towards 400 billion plus…
Also though I do see your point, the “recoverability” rating is based on *current production technology*, whereas the context of this statement is a man who *really made* a space ship with limited funds that no government on earth was able to…
If you go by the raw numbers, and are considering that innovation is this man’s life…It is an accurate statement…
crosspatch (15:43:55) :
“Most of Rutan’s money these days comes from Richard Branson. If Rutan came out anti-AGW, he company would collapse.”
Yeah, AGW is serious religion in Britain.
@ur momisugly Brendan H
To say what you appear to be trying to say would have to totally ignore the fact that in every segment of this lecture, the man shows the real undisputed numbers, the accurate numbers, the agreed number and the full datasets, rather than extrapolated ones…
Did you even watch it?
Anthony: “REPLY: following your logic then…
James Hansen – astronomer, mathematician
Al Gore – divinity school student, politician
Tim Flannery – Author, naturalist
Bill McKibben – author, activist…”
The last three, yes. The first, no. Why? Because Hansen has spent 30 years practising climate science. That gives him a degree of authority that the others lack, including, of course, Bert Rutan.
TheAnticrat: “To say what you appear to be trying to say would have to totally ignore the fact that in every segment of this lecture, the man shows the real undisputed numbers, the accurate numbers, the agreed number and the full datasets, rather than extrapolated ones…”
I’m not arguing that point. I’m addressing this claim: “Don’t you think that a person who designed the above aircraft is intelligent enough to have a very good understanding of climatology after having studied it?”
The claim here is that expertise in one field confers expertise in another. That’s an argument from false authority. Bert Rutan may have an in-depth grasp of climate science and may have blown away AGW with his presentation. Regardless, his expertise in aeronautical engineering does not confer expertise in climate science.
mike roddy (16:16:25) :
“Sorry, Burt, but your analysis is so absurd that I would be terrified to get in an airplane that you either flew or designed.”
All his planes fly really well and that is a consequence of his skill and analysis, and what affect would it have if he flew it? How are the AGW climate models doing by the way?
If you judge his analysis to be bad and therefore his planes are bad, but in reality they actually fly quite well then what is wrong? Burt’s analysis or your assessment?
@ur momisugly Brendan H
So you are postulating that the person who created, built, and flew an airplane that traveled entirely around the world on one tank of gas using atmospheric gasses has less of a grasp on atmospheric gasses than a fat politician who’s major contribution to the world before his mysterious genius on climate was warning labels on Twisted Sister records?
Just checking….
Do you understand what field he works in …? …Because he works *directly* with the medium that all of this is about… Intimately…