Jeff Id of the Air Vent reminds me with a video recently made available that that Burt Rutan has been giving active lectures on his view of global warming. WUWT covered Rutan’s Oshkosh EAA presentation last summer, but we didn’t have video then, only his powerpoint presentation.
Burt Rutan – aviation pioneer, engineer, test pilot, climate skeptic. Note the car.
Rutan’s PowerPoint file is posted at:
http://rps3.com/Pages/Burt_Rutan_on_Climate_Change.htm
For those that don’t have PowerPoint, I’ve converted it to a PDF file for easy and immediate reading online which you can download here.
And you can watch the video as Rutan presents at EAA:
“mike roddy (16:16:25) :
Please read:IPCC IV, Six Degrees, The Discovery of Global Warming, and any other book on the subject that is written by a credible climatologist.”
Q: What is the smallest library on Earth?
A: The Library Of The Collected Works Of Credible Climatologists.
ROTFLPMP. Thanks! Thanks!
An instructive exercise might be to put all of the products and projects (actual material, usable objects) in one pile, and all scientific theories (which by their very nature are mostly wrong)in another pile and decide which pile represents the most benefits to the human race. Turns out that theories, a dime a dozen in any group of sophomores, are the highest pile, cost the most public money and have the lowest utility, while products and projects, developed by engineers on their own hooks(no sophomores need apply) provide almost all of the measurable wealth and therefore standard of living on this planet.
Galls me considerably to see this blog, dedicated to discussions of life, science, nature, technology and recent news being accessed and increasingly dominated by ring knocker supremicists.
What separates these guys from Michael Mann? Just an opinion.
DonS (19:10:23) :
Sure is fun watching the unknown and unaccomplished trying to denigrate a man whom they clearly recognize as their superior.
You all know who you are, but Roddy is the guy who really got up my nose.
Roddy, when you achieve a feat similar to designing, designing the manufacturing techniques, building and flying an aircraft around the world unrefueled, give me a call. Until then, piss off. Maroon.
Don, the following is from an odious Michael post:
“Michael Roddy graduated with honors from Berkeley, and has written numerous magazine articles and Congressional testimonies on environmental and construction issues. He currently owns and operates a small hotel energy management company, with offices in Seattle, Napa, and Yucca Valley, California. Mike can be reached at mike.greenframe@gmail.com.”
And this is the post:
“The BEAST 15 Most Heinous Climate Villains
Posted by admin On December – 29 – 2009
Some of the bastards responsible for subverting public understanding of climate change
I asked Mike earlier if his unspecified degree was in science or engineering, but he didn’t respond. Do they even offer science or engineering at Berkeley?
This is the site link, if anyone wants to wade thru it – nice caricatures tho.
http://www.buffalobeast.com/?p=1237&cpage=1#comment-214
a credible climatologist
That would be Jones, Mann, Hansen, and their collaborators?
David L. Hagen (19:24:59) :
Those wanting to open the Powerpoint presentation can download OpenOffice for free and use Impress.
O.O. Calc is a pretty good substitute for M$ Excel too. (Doesn’t do smoothing tho.)
wws (19:31:10) :
It is rather fascinating that as this site gets more and more popular (look at the hit counter!) it’s getting to be seen as more and more of a threat by the AGW crowd – they used to ignore it completely.
Tomorrow the voting begins. Best Science Blog – 2 years running?
Mike recommended reading Surreal Climate. How did Gavin do last year? How’s he going to do this year?
crosspatch (18:01:49) :
Branson better not hear about this or he is going to be mightily upset with Rutan.
And that would mean what??
Branson needs Rutan. I don’t think it’s vice-versa.
“Galileo didn’t graduate from high school either.”
I was tempted to say “I knew Galileo and Branson is no Galileo” but lets say that in Galileo’s time nobody graduated from high school. Galileo was, however college educated and was a university academic:
If you were attempting to somehow imply that Galileo had no formal education, that would be intellectually dishonest. He had practically the best education that could be obtained at the time.
“mike roddy (16:16:25) :
Sorry, Burt, but your analysis is so absurd that I would be terrified to get in an airplane that you either flew or designed. “Those who want socialism”? Really? Who among the alarmists, pray tell, is that?”
Every last person who thinks that it is the government’s responsibility to control the energy supply of the country wants socialism. Fascism
Every last person who thinks forcing Americans into ever smaller and lighter cars is the governments duty wants socialism. Fascism
Every last person who thinks it is a good idea for the government to dictate what light bulbs a population is allowed use wants socialism. Fascism
Every last person who thinks that a good federal government activity is insulating the homes of home owners wants socialism. Fascism
Every last person who thinks that the government should be telling people where they are allowed to get energy from wants socialism. Fascism
It is pretty plainly clear that those who espouse the need to fight global warming are perfectly willing to do so at the expense of personal freedoms and the expansion of government by dictate.
yonason (19:33:52) :
The Sierra Club is the real danger to the earth and not coal.
It would mean the end of Spaceship 2. Branson is funding it. No funding, no program.
mike roddy : the problem with referring to the IPCC report while promoting AGW is that many people will compare that to someone stating that ‘communism works’ and instructing them to ‘read Das Kapital’ for proof.
In other words, few readers here believe in what the IPCC says. It’s a political organisation, not a scientific one.
It’s also true that terrified people act in a terrified manner. It’s quite typical for people caught up in mass delusion to talk about impending doom, but not to actually do anything about it. How many people scared of Y2K hysteria actually took all their money out of the bank, filled up their cupboards with tinned food and switched off all their appliances? I’m not sure of the reasons why people like to talk about being scared without doing anything, but perhaps it is seeking social acceptance or something.
People who know they are in the path of a Hurricane or a Fire don’t discuss and theorise how bad it is going to be, and talk about how scared they are, they just get in their cars and leave. Actions speak volumes about intentions.
mike roddy (16:16:25) :
Mike, I think these folks (in Copenhagen) want socialism, or even communism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN401-BFXOw
Not saying that most or all AGW proponents are of the same view, but to say none are is demonstrably incorrect.
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Arctic blast hitting China and Russia also, not just US and Britain:
Meteorologists predicted the freezing snap will last until at least mid-January…And the likelihood is that the second half of the month will be even colder…..heavy snow expected in northern England and Scotland…cold weather comes despite the Met Office’s long-range forecast, published in October, of a mild winter. That followed its earlier inaccurate prediction of a “barbecue summer”, which was marked by heavy rainfall and the wettest July for almost 100 years
http://www.theage.com.au/world/siberian-winds-usher-in-record-lows-in-beijing-20100103-lna6.html
Will January temps show a negative anomaly?
The biggest applause in Copenhagen came when Hugo Chavez gave his anti-capitalism “speech”.
Nuff said.
It’s refreshing to see when smart people who are trained in engineering/science actually take the time to look at what is being said by the AGW crowd that the conclusions that these smart people make are consistent. I just wish more people would listen to them. It’s quite ridiculous to believe the AGW crowd with all the variables they don’t account for, the models that don’t predict the future, and the paltry “evidence” they base their baseless conclusions on. When will the logical conclusion (that this trace gas isn’t causing and won’t cause huge problems) be recognized? AGW doesn’t pass scrutiny!
Temps in North Central US will be 10–40 degrees below average this week and cold will continue down to Texas and Florida over the next few days.
per The Weather Channel, 1/3/10
Oops…what that scraping noise?… could it be the bottom of the barrel? There are good arguments to present about the relative contributions of anthropogenic and natural warming. Giving space to this bogus nonsense undermines the validity of this site as a place for good scientific argument and turns it into an weak and transparent extension of FOX noise. It becomes a political platform rather than a serious look at the science. If you want to contribute (and it seems that you have) keep out of this nonsense. It feeds the prejudice of the ill-informed and may keep the punters happy but does nothing to do with working through this issue. I have looked at this site each day for the last 6 months, and found it thought provoking- even though I seldom agree. I am giving it a wide birth now as you seem to have made a clear choice to leave rational argument behind and “go gunboat”. What am I? Just one insignificant punter. You may have gained more “hits” but remember how you are judged by the company you keep. I will stick with Spencer, Christy and Michaels from now on.
Our time will be laughed at and despised by our descendants, if only for the fact that the most brilliant, most productive minds of our century had to spend their precious time explaining the obvious to the ignorant just because neither our filthy rich “statesmen” nor the obedient “scientists” paid by these politicians could resist a temptation of a profitable lie.
Burt Rutan deserves a monument.
Obama and other mobsters deserve tar and feathers.
Well, folks, I’m just so happy that Mike Roddy has stepped forward to put that Know-nothing, denialist engineer in his place!
/endsarc
Don’t feed the bloody trolls. If I tracked down the right site, Mike’s snail mail address is under the Bridge.
Looks like both Burt and Al gave TED talks in 2006:
Burt:
http://www.ted.com/talks/list/page/3
Al:
http://www.ted.com/talks/list/page/5
….version 2.0 provides ‘click through purchases of offsets’… (among other quotes)
I wonder if this was the occasion that Burt realized that something was going on in climate change?
When I first read his comment, I was going to point out to the obviously clueless mike roddy that Voyager; designed by Burt Rutan; hangs in a well-deserved prime spot at the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum for a reason. But enough WUWT regular readers have already done a pretty good job on mike roddy. Sooo:
Instead I’ll allow myself a moment to remember back many years and one of my visits to the Mojave Desert; when I got a 20-or-so minute ride in the LongEasy prototype with Burt Rutan’s brother Dick Rutan (who much later was of course one of the 2 Voyager pilots on the round-the-world trip).
Burt Rutan has proved many times over that he represents the best of American engineering, innovation, and applied science.
If anyone can convince Branson to see the light on AGW, it’s Burt Rutan.
Hmmm. . . .
If Branson could be convinced to publicly and even partially break with the Dark Side, THAT would be big news; that even the MSM would be hard put to totally ignore. Not holding my breath, but you never know. . . .
We do indeed live in interesting times. . . .
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Increased deaths in Peru from longer, harsher winters
…in the Peruvian Andes…months of sub-zero temperatures during the long winter. But, for the fourth year running, the cold came early….There have been warnings from meteorologists in Peru that this month will see the Huancavelica region hit by the worst weather conditions in years with plunging temperatures…Scores die every year from the cold, but in recent years the number of people succumbing to the freezing temperatures has triggered talk of a national crisis.This year the neighbouring district of Puno saw a severe spike in child mortality as the winter brought months of high winds and relentless ice storms. Government figures record that more than 300 children died in Puno in May last year from the cold; NGOs say that the figure was probably much higher…..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/03/peru-mountain-farmers-winter-cold
p.s. as we could guess since the article is from The Guardian the longer winters and deaths are attributed to global warming
David Kitchen (21:03:01) :
Which part of the Burt’s presentation/pdf do you find bogus nonsense?
I’m all for the site staying away from poor information and sticking to the facts as well. If some of the info is wrong, I’d like to read more on it to make up my mind.
David Kitchen (21:03:01) :
What is the bogus nonsense you are talking about?
Be specific.