From the “weather is not climate” department, we have this unusual event in the south of France, in the French Rivera, from Yahoo news:
People are seen on the beach covered by snow in Nice, southeastern France, Saturday, Dec. 19, 2009. Temperature is 3 degrees celcius (37,2 Farenheit).
The above report is only short term, 8 years according tot he website, I’m writing this entry froma Starbucks while traveling so perhaps our readers can find a longer term snow record for Nice, France.
Snow on the French Riviera????
I am an American Expat living in Antibes (Nice) France. I live 5 blocks from the beach, and 3 blocks from Port Vabaun, the 2nd largest yacht port in the world. I thought living here, I would escape the ice and snow of my native Cincinnati, Ohio. Boy was I wrong!!!
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Please help me,
Could someone explain to me how the average temperatures are calculated for the ClimateZone table linked in the header.
Re: Mapou (19:20:34) :
Amazing. UK climate scientist and Green Party activist, William Connolley of Realclimate.org, is Wikipedia’s climate doctor.
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Where do these crooked scientist come from?
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Cambridge, and I have a sneaking suspicion he used to date a housemate while I was studying there. Very keen to share his beliefs which almost caused us to do a Santer on him a few times. Wiki actions go to show how much the consensus has been stage managed though.
Duh, the data shows it is getting colder. A few more years of this and we can finally bury this dead horse.
Snow engulfs US East Coast
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8423153.stm?ls
Five dead as snowstorm engulfs US East Coast
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8423153.stm?ls
Weather chaos in Europe and North America
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8422827.stm
In pictures: Europe’s cold snap
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8423251.stm
Eurostar trains suspended as cold weather continues
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8422978.stm
“Climate Change Experiment Results”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/climateexperiment/whattheymean/theuk.shtml
Overnight temp here was -4C which is nothing for many of you guys but is pretty unusual for the Edinburgh area in mid-December. The forecast is showing nothing above a max of +2 until next Saturday. That is also unusual for the time of year. Cold spells of 10 days don’t usually hit us until into the new year.
My daughter tells me that at Alpe d’Huez it hit -23C (-40 with the wind-chill) on Friday and they closed the top lifts “on the grounds that someone would probably die.”
Unheard of.
Just weather, you understand, but still …
“Not Amused (22:04:14) :
Call me an absolute nutjob…
But I sure am hoping we see one helluva freezing cold 2010.
Just to stick it to ‘em.
Climate gawds, please make us all freeze our butts off !”
Not Amused, if you are a nutjob then I am also and that makes the two of us a cult!
I’m hoping for a whole lot more than just a cold winter; I’m hopeful for at least a world wide average temp drop of at least 3 to 4 degress C or F (Your choice) and I’m willing to perform what ever animal sacrifice or ritual that would result in that type of long term temp drop occurring over at least the next 30 to 50 years.
Just kidding about the animal sacrifice,,, unless the “dumb” animal’s name is,,,,,,,,
On November 10 NOAA issued their monthly press release on U.S. temperatures that stated October 2009 was the third coldest on record and was 4F degrees below the 20th century average.
Here it is December 20 and no news for November.
Would I be a sceptic if I suspect that November was also below average and that NOAA is holding the info until after the Copenhagen focus is over?
I live in Nice, it is indeed cold this week, but we’ve had snow like this before.
Mo
Meanwhile…
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php
In case anybody is still looking at this thread, nice timely cartoon in yesterday’s TIMES/London:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00661/TTM191901CC_RGB_ONL_661678a.jpg
“A cold weather front has caused major problems in parts of the UK in the last couple of days and further snow is forecast.
Snow covered roads, rails and runways, causing travel chaos for thousands of people at the beginning of the seasonal getaway.”
Have the traffic authorities neglected to stock up on rock salt again? Was it, again, on the MET’s advice?
‘Bob Moss (07:28:42) :
On November 10 NOAA issued their monthly press release on U.S. temperatures that stated October 2009 was the third coldest on record and was 4F degrees below the 20th century average.
Here it is December 20 and no news for November.
Would I be a sceptic if I suspect that November was also below average and that NOAA is holding the info until after the Copenhagen focus is over?’
You would be a skeptic Bob: it was definitely issued as I saw it and it was very much ABOVE average.
2009 after 11 months was pretty much normal, with a few states above and a few states below.
Richard … IPCC 2007 – VIRTUALLY CERTAIN for the 21st Century – warmer and fewer cold days and nights, reduced disruption to transport due to snow and ice, reduced energy demand from heating.
I don’t have the full 2007 report. Can you please provide the exact reference … page number etc.
Thank you.
Clive
It’s funny, even in the ’70’s when it used to snow like this, the authorities did have equipment to deal with it but it still brought the country to a standstill.
I do not envy anyone stuck on M3, M4, M20 and M25 corridors in snow like this.
A nice article in Norwegian largest newspaper Aftenposten.
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?prev=no&hl=en&u=http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/article3432761.ece
The cold freezes European firm
Several people have frozen to death, and planes and trains is set due to cold. In addition, creating snow trafikkaos several places.
Cold and snow characterizes much of Europe in the days before Christmas. In Poland, the authorities reported that at least 49 people have frozen to death since 1 December. 15 of them died at the weekend, according to NTB.
Roger Knights (10:41:40) :
“Have the traffic authorities neglected to stock up on rock salt again? Was it, again, on the MET’s advice?”
To expand the point. Last February UK almost came to a halt for a few days under a light dusting of snow.
It later emerged that many Local Authorities had reduced their stocks of road salt by following the official Met Office advice that cold winters were becoming unlikely. Therefore, any public service employee might have faced charges of reckless spending had they kept their local salt depots properly stocked.
The whole country more or less ran out, stocks were belatedly shipped in from abroad ( despite UK mining its own salt) and there were even reports of table salt being used at hospitals and the like.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/4524365/Snow-Britain-Travel-chaos-as-councils-run-out-of-grit.html
All thisrecord freezing cold weather onthe globe coinciding with the global warming summit in Chopanchangin. There really is a God, and he’s got a wicked sense of humor.
From a “like climate zones” perspective that’s akin to snow on the beach in San Francisco or Monterey.
Repeat after me:
“But it’s a warm snow!”…