This was the scene yesterday in Copenhagen. As you can see the scene is rather agitated with lots of police action, including use of billy clubs. As of this writing, no pictures or video is available of Lord Monckton’s account below. Hopefully somebody in the crowd will post some. I wish him well. I’ll also be glad when this conference is over. It has shown government at its worst.
From The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley in Copenhagen at the SPPI blog:
Today the gloves came off and the true purpose of the “global warming” scare became nakedly visible. Hugo Chavez, the Socialist president of Venezuela, blamed “global warming” on capitalism – and received a standing ovation from very nearly all of the delegates, lamentably including those from those of the capitalist nations of the West that are on the far Left – and that means too many of them.
Previously Robert Mugabe, dictator of Rhodesia, who had refused to leave office when he had been soundly defeated in a recent election, had also won plaudits at the conference for saying that the West ought to pay him plenty of money in reparation of our supposed “climate debt”.
Inside the conference center, “world leader” after “world leader” got up and postured about the need to Save The Planet, the imperative to do a deal, the necessity to save the small island nations from drowning, etc., etc., etc.
Outside, in the real world, it was snowing, and a foretaste of the Brave New World being cooked up by “world leaders” in their fantasy-land was already evident. Some 20,000 observers from non-governmental organizations – nearly all of them true-believing Green groups funded by taxpayers – had been accredited to the conference.
However, without warning the UN had capriciously decided that all but 300 of them were to be excluded from the conference today, and all but 90 would be excluded on the final day.
Of course, this being the inept UN, no one had bothered to notify those of the NGOs that were not true-believers in the UN’s camp. So Senator Steve Fielding of Australia and I turned up with a few dozen other delegates, to be left standing in the cold for a couple of hours while the UN laboriously worked out what to do with us.
In the end, they decided to turn us away, which they did with an ill grace and in a bad-tempered manner. As soon as the decision was final, the Danish police moved in. One of them began the now familiar technique of manhandling me, in the same fashion as one of his colleagues had done the previous day.
Once again, conscious that a police helicopter with a high-resolution camera was hovering overhead, I thrust my hands into my pockets in accordance with the St. John Ambulance crowd-control training, looked my assailant in the eye and told him, quietly but firmly, to take his hands off me.
He complied, but then decided to have another go. I told him a second time, and he let go a second time. I turned to go and, after I had turned my back, he gave me a mighty shove that flung me to the ground and knocked me out.
I came to some time later (not sure exactly how long), to find my head being cradled by my friends, some of whom were doing their best to keep the police thugs at bay while the volunteer ambulance-men attended to me.
I was picked up and dusted me off. I could not remember where I had left my telephone, which had been in my hand at the time when I was assaulted. I rather fuzzily asked where it was, and one of the police goons shouted, “He alleges he had a mobile phone.”
In fact, the phone was in my coat pocket, where my hand had been at the time of the assault. The ambulance crew led me away and laid me down under a blanket for 20 minutes to get warm, plying me with water and keeping me amused with some colorfully colloquial English that they had learned.
I thanked them for their kindness, left them a donation for their splendid service, and rejoined my friends. A very senior police officer then came up and asked if I was all right. Yes, I said, but no thanks to one of his officers, who had pushed me hard from behind when my back was turned and had sent me flying.
The police chief said that none of his officers would have done such a thing. I said that several witnesses had seen the incident, which I intended to report. I said I had hoped to receive an apology but had not received one, and would include that in my report. The policeman went off looking glum, and with good reason.
To assault an accredited representative of a conference your nation is hosting, and to do it while your own police cameramen are filming from above, and to do it without any provocation except my polite, non-threatening request that I should not be manhandled, is not a career-enhancing move, as that police chief is about to discover to his cost.
Nor does this incident, and far too many like it, reflect the slightest credit on Denmark. We must make reasonable allowance for the fact that the unspeakable security service of the UN, which is universally detested by those at this conference, was ordering the Danish police about. The tension between the alien force and the indigenous men on the ground had grown throughout the conference.
However, the Danish police were far too free with their hands when pushing us around, and that is not acceptable in a free society. But then, Europe is no longer a free society. It is, in effect, a tyranny ruled by the unelected Kommissars of the European Union. That is perhaps one reason why police forces throughout Europe, including that in the UK, have become far more brutal than was once acceptable in their treatment of the citizens they are sworn to serve.
It is exactly this species of tyranny that the UN would like to impose upon the entire planet, in the name of saving us from ourselves – or, as Ugo Chavez would put it, saving us from Western capitalist democracy.
A few weeks ago, at a major conference in New York, I spoke about this tendency towards tyranny with Dr. Vaclav Klaus, the distinguished economist and doughty fighter for freedom and democracy who is President of the Czech Republic.
While we still have one or two statesmen of his caliber, there is hope for Europe and the world. Unfortunately, he refused to come to Copenhagen, telling me that there was no point, now that the lunatics were firmly in control of the asylum.
However, I asked him whether the draft Copenhagen Treaty’s proposal for what amounted to a communistic world government reminded him of the Communism under which he and his country had suffered for so long.
He thought for a moment – as statesmen always do before answering an unusual question – and said, “Maybe it is not brutal. But in all other respects, what it proposes is far too close to Communism for comfort.”
Today, as I lay in the snow with a cut knee, a bruised back, a banged head, a ruined suit, and a written-off coat, I wondered whether the brutality of the New World Order was moving closer than President Klaus – or any of us – had realized.
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Ok. At least its in the open: The UN, backed by Obama is a police tyranny – only I don’t think Obama has the brain enough to see what he’s been inveigled into. IE. He’s another moron.
Every extremist (hi Jackson) sows the seeds of the backlash that will undo them with their own arrogant overreaching behaviour.
Pride goeth before a fall, and hubris leads ultimately to failure.
The way you get the police in Denmark to leave you alone no matter what you are doing is to dress like a Muslim.
You know when this is going to get to be real fun? Even better than troll types? Wait til the eco-crazies realize they have been had by the polticians they have been cheering for years. And when the politicians realize that the eco-crazies are…..well…..crazy. And not people they want around when the money starts flowing and votes are needed. We are talking top-notch entertainment here, folks.
What interests me: The protestors are reacting to what their politicians and scientists are galvanising and frightening them into, courtesy of the media. Surely there should be a statement of apology from these *nominal* world leaders – I say that with reservation, as they don’t appear to be leaders – that it is they who goaded protestors into such action by issuing fears about the future?
Probably not, as they know its not about science or climate – that is just the excuse, in the absence of any other 50 year conflict or international event (like WW2) to forge a new world order. Its classic totalitarian overwhem: Protestors are carrying out the actions that the politicians goad them into, then politicians hide behind closed doors using a different basis altogether from what they goad their voters into: politics and economic programs. In all likelihood, nothing of any real importance will come from the conference apart from post colonial reparations to the 3rd world, which will make the 3rd world subservient to ts paymasters all the more.
The Stasi are the next thing to appear
Jackson 19:51:43
Is your surname Manson? Are you one of the few survivors of Jonestown? Because you sure do sound a lot like those loony freaks of nature.
To Lord Monckton. Thankyou for your efforts and I hope you’re ok Keep up the good work.
ps Monckton was spending time with the Australian Senator Steve Fielding. It’d be interesting to know if Fielding was with him. I’m on his mailing list, if anything arrives I’ll keep you posted
Jackson: “My statements stand for themselves — no self validation or authority needed. I am the voice of the future.”
Textbook definition of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
As well as some comic relief….. “I am the voice of the future.”
Hahahaha. Thanks for that cheap advertising plug, bro.
Great fodder and entertainment.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
Most ordinary people in Denmark, including me, supports the actions of the police during this conference. We have many times seen Copenhagen burnt, vandalized by protesters, and really don’t want to see it again.
I am sure that all protesters, including Lord Monckton, has been informed of the new Danish law, permitting police to protect ordinary peoples property from damage.
If Lord Monckton had followed the orders from the police instead of relying on ambulance crowd control techniques, nothing would have happened to him.
/Mikkel
I’m extremely upset for our beautiful Lord Monckton. I just sent his account to a few well-known news blogs. That conference is full of left wing dictators planning our destruction while we sit and do nothing. Those UN brutes remind me of the SEIU union thugs.
I saw your PM Brown there whining away about how they need billions more money. All I hear about is money, money, money and zero about the climate data – difficult I know since it’s snowing. HA!
Ihope you’re feeling better Lord Monckton. We have your back over here but in a much more gentle way than the despicable way you were treated over there. I’m really mad about it.
Being an intellectual by nature — I will offer a counter argument that might merit facets of debate. Assume for just a minute that all the AGW proponents claim is SCIENTIFICALLY true. In reality we do not establish truth — but only develop levels of confidence in data and explanations. However, If true, why are historically carbon emissions viewed without context when making assumptions about how much each country “owes.” There is some tacit assumption that all US industry and US emissions are part of a selfish drive for wealth.
Does not the U.S deserve some carbon credits for every carbon unit produced to grow and transport millions of tons of food and medicine to Africa?
Does not the United States deserve some carbon credits from Germany, Francem and Japan for the carbon emissions produced to free the world of Nazi and Axis tyranny/evil?
Does not the United States deserve some carbon credits from Europe for the industrial emissions produced to fund the Marshall Plan?
Does not the United States deserve some carbon credits for the ships and supplies it has used to provide relief to countless of disasters (the tsunami, earthquakes, etc)
Why is there no fair discussion of this line of thought?
What I put to you is that the passions expended in this blog are ill-used. Science can change on a dime with the production of new data. Would it not be better expending the passions shown herein toward advancing an understanding that there really is no fair way to reset history (or the climate). The UN is totally unable to mange this crisis and so it is a much more rational solution to admit the science and for ALL major industrial nations to responsibly mitigate emissions hereafter — and to allow the wealthy nations to provide aid when needed to mitigate climate change problems that ACTUALLY manifest.
I personally reject some of this thinking, but it is fair to advance such thought.
Tomorrow is a dawn of a new era not because what will be done will all prove to be correct or needed, but it is the first time we have acted are Earthlings responsible for our precious and fragile spaceship.
If UN thugs treat accredited attendees and peers of a so-called sovereign realm in that brutal manner, imagine how they would treat you or I.
Is it any wonder that the EU (and thence, the world) plans to have 30% of a member state’s police force comprised of personnel from other member countries? So much easier for them to oppress people who aren’t their countrymen. Similarly, would a Mexican police officer in the US be compassionately disposed to US citizens he is ordered to control?
United nations? United dictatorships. European Union? European dictatorship (ED).
Fear not, Lord Monckton and friends. Democratism is coming.
The last time I got booted around by riot cops was at Trafalgar Square while protesting the ‘poll tax’ introduced by Margaret Thatcher. That too was aimed at more surveillance and control, but under a right wing leader not left. I don’t think this issue is clear cut down party lines or left/right ideology. It’s an issue of personal freedom against authoritarian oppression.
Politicians, ‘experts’ and zealots of all stripes believe they have right on their side and that we should do as they say, and are prepared to use armed militias to help them get their way. This was true long before the ‘left’ ever got going. What we see now in Copenhagen is the willing suspension of critical faculties and the triumph of unreason. It’s a dark day for truth, liberty and common sense.
Lord Monckton has stood up to the eco-bullies, and taken a hit for it. We must stand shoulder to shoulder with him and show these proto-fascist elements that we will not tolerate their lies, fraud, corruption, theft and thuggery.
For Chris: Sorry — you lay ignorance shows again. We use the DSM to define personality disorders (that’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) not “classic textbooks.” But if we want to play that specious insult game, though I admit no expertise, I’d classify you and tallbloke as “passive aggressives”
“I am the voice of the future” is a literary reference. Mais non!
There WAS a point in all this. Thanks for the research help. 😉
Though I think you are all mostly misguided with regard to your understanding of science, I wish you the best in your smaller carbon footprint future.
Wanted:
Thugs, quick to anger. Must have experience with nightstick and tear gas.
Must show inability to discriminate between rioters throwing rocks and breaking windows with House of Lords members seeking admission to conference to which credentialed.
The successful applicant will demonstrate skill at inflaming any situation, bringing rage to a new level beyond all reason.
Facial scars and tattoos are a plus. Salary commensurate with experience.
Please take a look at what protesters did last time in Copenhagen:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/spiderjuice/sets/72157617905488620/
The police had to stand and watch, as private property were destroyed, because of Danish law at the time did not allow preventive arrests, and it was considered to dangerous to go in after the destruction started.
The new law allows police to act before things get out of hand. This is not police brutality, police state or anything like that. It is the police doing their job, protecting ordinary people.
When visiting Denmark, do as instructed by the police, and nothing will happen to you.
/Mikkel
Jackson,
Self praise is no recommendation, and ¨I am the future¨ is pathetic.
Now, grab a kleenex and do up your trousers.
Jackson
‘Tomorrow is a dawn of a new era not because what will be done will all prove to be correct or needed, but it is the first time we have acted are Earthlings responsible for our precious and fragile spaceship.’
You are truly stuffed in the head baby. Do leave that organic stuff that you drink alone. I doubt if you will come right in the morning now. But there is hope – Join ananother religion – it might help.
Ah, leave Jackson alone… He is having a bad day and we all know why. So no reason to rub it in on him.
Anyway. Three cheers to Lord Monckton and Senator Fielding for standing their ground and representing science and truth…. Huzzar!
jackson (23:22:59) :
In reality we do not establish truth — but only develop levels of confidence in data and explanations. However, If true, why are historically carbon emissions viewed without context when making assumptions about how much each country “owes.”
You certainly won’t get anywhere near establishing truth by fudging data and truncating series. Your attempt to divert discussion into a blame game sideshow is a classic smokescreen to hide the nakedness of your argument.
jackson (23:43:54) :
I’d classify you and tallbloke as “passive aggressives”
There’s nothing passive about my aggression when my freedom is stamped on, my friends are clubbed and the scientific method I believe in is distorted, gamed and sullied by the fraudulent activities of fakirs, liars and fools.
“jackson (23:22:59) :
Tomorrow is a dawn of a new era not because what will be done will all prove to be correct or needed, but it is the first time we have acted are Earthlings responsible for our precious and fragile spaceship.”
Can you explain how such a low carbon lifestyle will save this “fragile spaceship” from our local Death Star? Give me a few minutes, I need to make some popcorn….
I am appalled, this assualt on Lord Monckton is still not screening on MSM TV broadcasts.
Jackson, were you never loved? You write in a cold robotic tone of propagandists, spewing what we’ve heard before again and again; it’s the type of blather, when repeated enough convinces the groupthinkers who lack critical thinking skills, but no one else.
You, like all your other green zombie friends, have nothing original, insightful, or positive to add. You only know how to spew pre-written lines, call names and take.
I know you can’t possibly be loved by the way you find joy in a good man’s (Lord Monckton’s) misery. You must see how inferior you are to him. Notice how Monckton stands out in the open unafraid to be questioned and speaking truth. While you lurk in the background and spread disinformation.
No, this climate scandal isn’t over. We won’t let it be over. People are opening their eyes still. And you, you little evil-nothing-of-a-human, are only helping OUR cause. Anyone on the fence still, thinking GW alarmism could possibly be about something positive (ie love for the planet and humanity) will read your comment and know which side is the legitimate side and can be trusted. Because you, unfortunately, represent that side well.
Only brainwashed drones, people much like yourself, would be fooled by your cliched propaganda.
Good luck, you hateful little person. Maybe one day a bit of light will eek into your withered heart and you may feel worthy enough to give rather than take.
Until then, it must be miserable to be you.
Jackson “Tomorrow is a dawn of a new era not because what will be done will all prove to be correct or needed, but it is the first time we have acted are Earthlings responsible for our precious and fragile spaceship.”
No. Tomorrow is no new era at all. Homo Sapiens have always acted like fire ants, bermudagrass, and kudzu.
The thing that sets us apart from these opportunistic organisms…is that they do what they do. WE, however, have consciouses and highly evolved brains based upon reason.
In theory, then…there is no excuse for us!
This Copenhagen Treaty, however, has nothing whatsoever to do with a new era where we are finally acting responsibly.
Copenhagen is just symbolic of both fascist and communist efforts to create “utopia.” Both are in err. And they are essentially the same.
I would point you to the fact that the vast majority of the worlds worst environmental cleanup sites are in China, India, Russia….et al.
There are none such in the US. [Even though the US has plenty of faults of its own!]
I would point you to the fact that even the Bush Administration [I know…you say….the worst]….regardless….the Bush administration crated more oceanic parks in recent history.
Take the NW Hawaiian Archipelago for example….
So this (Copenhagen) is precisely NOT the first time we have acted as Earthlings responsible for our “spaceship”. Not at all.
This whole AGW movement is bogus because it confuses TWO SEPARATE ARGUMENTS: Global Pollution [which we can and should do something about]…and Natural Cycle…which occur irrespective of homo sapiens’ rape or care of the planet.
It is upon THIS dishonest, disingenuous, [snip] red herring sidetrack…that the whole of Copenhagen, the IPCC, and Al Gore and the potential derailment of literally trillions of dollars….is based.
They have RUINED their own platform.
Really not that smart. We give world leaders WAY too much credit. The question we SHOULD be asking:
How did these individuals get in power??
These…..THESE….people are running the free world?
Maybe Science can figure out that equation….but it will be a complicated one for sure.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA