AP's Seth Borenstein is just too damn cozy with the people he covers – time for AP to do something about it

Here’s a recent story from the Associated Press:

By Seth Borenstein, Raphael Satter and Malcolm Ritter, Dec 12, 2009

“E-mails stolen from climate scientists show they stonewalled skeptics and discussed hiding data — but the messages don’t support claims that the science of global warming was faked, according to an exhaustive review by The Associated Press.”

Look in the mirror, fools. It’s right there in the CRU emails:

On Jul 23, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Borenstein, Seth wrote:

Kevin, Gavin, Mike,

It’s Seth again. Attached is a paper in JGR today that

Marc Morano is hyping wildly. It’s in a legit journal. Whatchya think?

Seth

Seth Borenstein

Associated Press Science Writer

[7]sborenstein@xxxxxxxxx.xxx

The Associated Press, 1100 13th St. NW, Suite 700,

Washington, DC

20005-4076

202-641-9454

Now, I’m going to bring to your attention, this entry from THE ASSOCIATED PRESS STATEMENT OF NEWS VALUES AND PRINCIPLES

For more than a century and a half, men and women of The Associated Press have had the privilege of bringing truth to the world. They have gone to great lengths, overcome great obstacles – and, too often, made great and horrific sacrifices – to ensure that the news was reported quickly, accurately and honestly. Our efforts have been rewarded with trust: More people in more places get their news from the AP than from any other source.In the 21st century, that news is transmitted in more ways than ever before – in print, on the air and on the Web, with words, images, graphics, sounds and video. But always and in all media, we insist on the highest standards of integrity and ethical behavior when we gather and deliver the news.

That means we abhor inaccuracies, carelessness, bias or distortions. It means we will not knowingly introduce false information into material intended for publication or broadcast; nor will we alter photo or image content. Quotations must be accurate, and precise.

It means we always strive to identify all the sources of our information, shielding them with anonymity only when they insist upon it and when they provide vital information – not opinion or speculation; when there is no other way to obtain that information; and when we know the source is knowledgeable and reliable.

It means we don’t plagiarize.

It means we avoid behavior or activities that create a conflict of interest and compromise our ability to report the news fairly and accurately, uninfluenced by any person or action.

It means we don’t misidentify or misrepresent ourselves to get a story. When we seek an interview, we identify ourselves as AP journalists.

It means we don’t pay newsmakers for interviews, to take their photographs or to film or record them.

It means we must be fair. Whenever we portray someone in a negative light, we must make a real effort to obtain a response from that person. When mistakes are made, they must be corrected – fully, quickly and ungrudgingly.

And ultimately, it means it is the responsibility of every one of us to ensure that these standards are upheld. Any time a question is raised about any aspect of our work, it should be taken seriously.

“I have no thought of saying The Associated Press is perfect. The frailties of human nature attach to it,” wrote Melville Stone, the great general manager of the AP. But he went on to say that “the thing it is striving for is a truthful, unbiased report of the world’s happenings … ethical in the highest degree.”

He wrote those words in 1914. They are true today.

CONFLICTS OF INTEREST

The AP respects and encourages the rights of its employees to participate actively in civic, charitable, religious, public, social or residential organizations.

However, AP employees must avoid behavior or activities – political, social or financial – that create a conflict of interest or compromise our ability to report the news fairly and accurately, uninfluenced by any person or action. Nothing in this policy is intended to abridge any rights provided by the National Labor Relations Act.

Here is a sampler of AP practices on questions involving possible conflict of interest. It is not all-inclusive; if you are unsure whether an activity may constitute a conflict or the appearance of a conflict, consult your manager at the onset.

EXPRESSIONS OF OPINION:

Anyone who works for the AP must be mindful that opinions they express may damage the AP’s reputation as an unbiased source of news. They must refrain from declaring their views on contentious public issues in any public forum, whether in Web logs, chat rooms, letters to the editor, petitions, bumper stickers or lapel buttons, and must not take part in demonstrations in support of causes or movements.

When a reporter get’s too cozy with sources, calling them by their first names, with no hint of professional formality, it raises questions of integrity.

When a reporter is part of an email thread where one of the respondents says:

On Jul 23, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Jim Salinger wrote:

Hi All

Thanks for the pro-activeness. Is there an opportunity to write a

letter to JGR pointing out the junk science in this??….if

it is not rebutted, then all sceptics will use this to justify their

position.

Jim

It gives the appearance that he is not interested in reporting the other side of the story, especially when he is the instigator of the email thread by saying:

Marc Morano is hyping wildly. It’s in a legit journal. Whatchya think?

So, how then would the AP trust Seth Borenstein to do an “exhaustive inquiry” when he is part of the issue?

Perhaps further FOIA documents will tell us just how cozy Mr. Borenstein is with the people he reports on.

Now consider what other members of the media people write about him. From the Tacoma News-Tribune

Associated Press reporter Seth Borenstein has a terrible reputation as a runaway alarmist. Even global warming enthusiasts and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change are embarrassed by his over-the-top prognostications of doom and selective use of data to support his fading dream that mankind can actually control climate.

When other reporters people can see the bias, AP, you have a problem.

A few days later, spurred on by Borenstein’s initial letter, we see this one:

From: Kevin Trenberth <trenbert@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>

To: Michael Mann <mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>

Subject: Re: ENSO blamed over warming – paper in JGR

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:23:09 -0600

Cc: Grant Foster <tamino_9@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, “J. Salinger” <j.salinger@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, j.renwick@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, b.mullan@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, Gavin Schmidt <gschmidt@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, James Annan <jdannan@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>

Hi all

Wow this is a nice analysis by Grant et al. What we should do is turn this into a learning

experience for everyone: there is often misuse of filtering. Obviously the editor and

reviewers need to to also be taken to task here. I agree with Mike Mann that a couple of

other key points deserve to be made wrt this paper. Making sure that the important

relationships and role of ENSO on interannual variability of global temperatures should

also be pointed out with some select references (as in recent emails and the refs

therein). In terms of the paper, I recommend consolidating the figures to keep them fewer

in number if this is a comment: combine Figs 3 with 4 , and 6 with 7. Make sure the plots

of spectra have period prominently displayed as well as frequency and maybe even highlight

with stipple some bands like >10 years. Glad to sign on: I would need an acknowledgment

that NCAR is sponsored by NSF.

Regards

Kevin

More instances of scientists acting like bullies to pressure editors and reviewers to accept the view they hold dear. Notice blogger “Tamino” aka Grant Foster is part of the gang.

Does Seth Borenstein ever report anything about undue pressure on journals exercised by his circle of climate coziness? No.

But to have Mr. Borenstein report upon the investigation of the leaked East Anglia emails, when he himself is part of the emails, is certainly a conflict of interest.

In that story today about the investigation, written in part by Borenstein it says:

The archive also includes a request from an AP reporter, one of the writers of this story, for reaction to a study, a standard step for journalists seeking quotes for their stories.

When the AP allows reporters to report on stories they are involved in, and for them to be able to dance around their own involvement in the same story, it clearly becomes a conflict of interest.

It is, in my opinion, time for AP to remove Seth Borenstein as “science reporter”. I believe he can no longer be trusted to report climate science without bias, due to this clear conflict of interest.

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M White
December 13, 2009 6:33 am

I bought the Mail on Sunday this afternoon and can confirm that the article
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1235395/SPECIAL-INVESTIGATION-Climate-change-emails-row-deepens–Russians-admit-DID-send-them.html
was printed in full, a double page spread on pages 12 & 13. (Paper has 88 pages)

December 13, 2009 6:38 am

There is a sense in which the media, the climatologists (whom we really should think of as science bureaucrats), and the politicians support and reinforce each other’s ability to ignore public opinion. It isn’t a conspiracy, just a shared mindset: all want to belong to what might be called the good shepherds class, whose task it is to bring us, the public, out of our ignorance.
See “Climategate: The good shepherds”:

Doug in Seattle
December 13, 2009 6:38 am

Bornestein et al, say:
“McIntyre, 62, of Toronto was trained in math and economics and says he “substantially retired” from the mineral-exploration industry, which produces greenhouse gases”

Uh, Seth breathes, so I guess he too produces greenhouse gases.
Is this AP’s best’s attempt at an ad hominem attack on the integrity of Mr. McIntyre? Pathetic!

wws
December 13, 2009 6:47 am

Nice to finally see the AP getting outed for the biased, political fraud which it and the rest of the MSM has become. I had never realized how wide a net would be cast when the warming scam blew apart – well, I never anticipated it falling apart this quickly. And now all of the vested interests are going all in to protect it, and yet it is a giant black hole that is sucking their last shreds of integrity down with it. Luc, in his strange ideology worhsipping way had a point – just look at how many institutions have bought into this! The UN, 192 governments, the AP, the mainstream media, most major political parties, the movie industry, not to mention the faculties of most university departments and of course the once respected science journals….
That sounds like too much to overcome, and yet here is the amazing and joyous part – *every* *one* of those institutions is now going to be taken down at least in part by this, and some will fail completely. (funding for the enviro groups will now begin to be slashed dramatically) This scandal is too big for even the most mighty and the most powerful to withstand, and the more effort they put into keeping it going, the more they will be hurt by the final demise. The smartest players will begin backing out very quickly. (China and India already have)
Goliath has been felled by an army of Davids.

Roger Knights
December 13, 2009 6:48 am

Here are some of the objectionable quotes in Seth Borenstein’s story. (I hope others, who have more in-depth knowledge, can find additional quotes.):
A. “It is not clear if any data was destroyed; two U.S. researchers denied it.”
This would have been the point for him to mention that some data has been lost. (If Seth wanted to be even-handed, he could even venture to use sneer-quotes, as I suspect he has on other occasions against skeptics, and say “lost.”)
B. “Keenan threatened to have the FBI arrest University at Albany scientist Wei-Chyung Wang for fraud. (A university investigation later cleared him of any wrongdoing.)”
First, it’s a mild journalistic no-no to include an “any” like the one I boldfaced, because it nudges the reader into taking sides. (There’s probably a technical term for this sort of insinuating adjective.)
Second, this would have been the point for SB to mention that the U of A has refused to release its hearing-report, which it is supposed to do.
Third, I don’t think it’s accurate to imply that the accusee was entirely exonerated. Here are links to the two WUWT threads on this topic:
Climate Science Fraud at Albany University?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/05/03/climate-science-fraud-at-albany-university/
Surface Temperature Records in China
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/08/12/surface-temperature-records-in-china/
Here’s what one commenter, “An Observer,” stated in the first thread:
”Read the odd letter [from Albany U] as a lawyer rather than a layman and it all makes sense. The letter says the “the investigation committee finds no evidence of the alleged fabrication of results and nothing that rises to the level of research misconduct having been committed by Dr. Wang.”
The operative phrases in this two part sentence are (1) fabrication of RESULTS and (2) having been committed by DR. WANG.
The way I read the letter – and I have written many similar ones in my career – is that Albany found something. And it was large and was research misconduct. It involved the fabrication of DATA not results and it involved research misconduct by someone other than Dr. Wang. I have my suspicions of whom they are referring to but they are just suspicions.
This letter is true, accurate and very deceptive. It covers Albany’s posterior while not actually lying. I would venture to guess that Albany has a definition of “research misconduct” that does not include failing to supervise a grad student or failing to thoroughly check the work of your co-author.
This would also explain why Dr. Keegan was not given the report and why he was not interviewed.

C. “The “trick” that Jones said he was borrowing from Mann was to add the real temperatures, not what the tree rings showed. And the decline he talked of hiding was not in real temperatures, but in the tree ring data that was misleading, Mann explained.
First, once again SB has put his thumb on the scale with a reader-leading word, “explained.” This is taking sides. The neutral word would be “claimed.” (My journalistic experience is limited to a stint as a news producer at a college radio station. But even in that lowly position I was sensitive to the connotations of word-choice in cases like this. I’m a bit surprised SB’s editors didn’t catch this pair of cub-flubs.)
Second, this would have been the point for SB to slip in a salient fact, thusly: “Mann … who is now also the subject of an official investigation …” (The quote is from the Daily Mail’s story of Dec. 13 by David Rose, here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1235395/SPECIAL-INVESTIGATION-Climate-change-emails-row-deepens–Russians-admit-DID-send-them.html# .)
Third, his simplistic treatment of “hide the decline” amounts to a whitewashing. The Daily Mail’s fuller treatment is justly non-exculpatory, to put it mildly:
”Finally, Briffa changed the way he computed his data and submitted a revised version. This brought his work into line for earlier centuries, and ‘cooled’ them significantly. But alas, it created another, potentially even more serious, problem.
According to his tree rings, the period since 1960 had not seen a steep rise in temperature, as actual temperature readings showed – but a large and steady decline, so calling into question the accuracy of the earlier data derived from tree rings.
This is the context in which, seven weeks later, Jones presented his ‘trick’ – as simple as it was deceptive.
All he had to do was cut off Briffa’s inconvenient data at the point where the decline started, in 1961, and replace it with actual temperature readings, which showed an increase.
On the hockey stick graph, his line is abruptly terminated – but the end of the line is obscured by the other lines.
‘Any scientist ought to know that you just can’t mix and match proxy and actual data,’ said Philip Stott, emeritus professor of biogeography at London’s School of Oriental and African Studies.
‘They’re apples and oranges. Yet that’s exactly what he did.’
Since Warmergate-broke, some of the CRU’s supporters have claimed that Jones and his colleagues made a ‘full disclosure’ of what they did to Briffa’s data in order to produce the hockey stick.
But as McIntyre points out, ‘contrary to claims by various climate scientists, the IPCC Third Assessment Report did not disclose the deletion of the post-1960 values’.
On the final diagram, the cut off was simply concealed by the other lines.
By 2007, when the IPCC produced its fourth report, McIntyre had become aware of the manipulation of the Briffa data and Briffa himself, as shown at the start of this article, continued to have serious qualms.
McIntyre by now was an IPCC ‘reviewer’ and he urged the IPCC not to delete the post-1961 data in its 2007 graph. ‘They refused,’ he said, ‘stating this would be “inappropriate”.’”

D. ”But in the end, global warming didn’t go away, according to the vast body of research over the years.”
It’s a bit of a red herring to imply that the entire Climategate controversy is over whether global warming is occurring. The dispute is over whether “the consensus” is any longer entitled to the amount of trust that would entitle it to say, “The debate is over; cut your industrial throat, and pay reparations into the bargain.”
If the consensus ever had that degree of legitimacy, it’s lost it now. The commanding heights on the warmist side – the CRUsaders, the IPCC, the big-name journals, etc. – have shown themselves to be petty, Pecksniffian, and partisan (e.g., Santer’s violence-tinged remarks). They countenanced or engaged in dodgy data, dirty fighting, and dirigisme — an “I direct” attitude. They had the unscientific, autocratic belief that it was an outrage to say them Nay or inquire into their data methods. Etc.
Well, the wind has whipped that would-be emperor’s robe aside for a moment and shown us his feet of clay. We see that the consensus has, to a significant degree, been engineered rather than arrived at in a purely scientific manner—a manner that a finding of such great economic and social import requires.
No longer can King Consensus command assent on his mere say-so. The populace in the US will ask itself, “Can fiddlers and finaglers, or their enablers and excusers, be trusted to take our trillions?” The answer will be NO, in thunder. It’s the populace that’s the sovereign. It will not accept an arrant imposition and abuse of its trust – and, if pushed (by the EPA and courts), it will push back.
If popular consent is to be obtained, a properly scientific do-over is required, under the auspices of panels of independent scientists from a variety of fields (mostly retired), and with lots of input from climate contrarians. This re-do may seem, to the arrogant top-lofties in the field, like a great imposition on them. But, in a year or two they’ll be begging for any chance at a comeback, when they find themselves in history’s dustbin.
E. ”None of the e-mails flagged by the AP and sent to three climate scientists viewed as moderates in the field changed their view that global warming is man-made and a threat.”
First, only two scientists are named, Vecchi and North.
Second, as I mentioned in “D,” it’s a bit of a diversion to focus on whether or not the CRUtape letters debunk global warming. That’s not the gravamen of the charge.
Third, it’s not significant that moderates aren’t yet stepping out of line, because it’s not yet safe to do so (notice how the Team kept their doubts to themselves), and because they’re in to it up to their necks in the groupthink themselves. They can’t turn around on a dime, but have to extricate themselves with circumspection.
Fourth, I wonder how thoroughly these moderates have considered the skeptics’ case. Have they really heard an extensive and vigorous presentation of the contrarians’s side of the debate? The alarmists have mostly avoided debates, often claiming they would be silly in front of an unscientific audience. OK then, how about a series of video-conferenced debates presented to a scientific audience only? (Perhaps behind the paywall of a scientific society’s website.)
F. ” Gerald North … headed a National Academy of Sciences study that looked at — and upheld as valid — Mann’s earlier studies that found the 1990s were the hottest years in centuries.”
That’s a half-truth. The NAS sort of agreed (it’s “plausible”) with Mann’s conclusion (“the 1990s were the hottest years in centuries”), mostly because other studies came to the same conclusion. But it did not uphold the validity of Mann’s studies that came to that conclusion. They disagreed with his use of bristlecone pines as good proxies. Here is a link to the lengthy NAS report: http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=11676
Here are the quotes from the NAS report that express little confidence in Mann’s proxies:
Based on the analyses presented in the original papers by Mann et al. and this newer supporting evidence, the committee finds it plausible that the Northern Hemisphere was warmer during the last few decades of the 20th century than during any comparable period over the preceding millennium.
The substantial uncertainties currently present in the quantitative assessment of large-scale surface temperature changes prior to about A.D. 1600 lower our confidence in this conclusion compared to the high level of confidence we place in the Little Ice Age cooling and 20th century warming.
Even less confidence can be placed in the original conclusions by Mann et al. (1999) that “the 1990s are likely the warmest decade, and 1998 the warmest year, in at least a millennium” because the uncertainties inherent in temperature reconstructions for individual years and decades are larger than those for longer time periods, and because not all of the available proxies record temperature information on such short timescales.””

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Summing up, SB’s article contains attempts to subtly demean skeptics, valorize alarmists, omit embarrassing information, and misdirect attention from alarmists’ weak points. When I say that it’s not a bad article, considering the author, you can imagine what that implies about his other work.

Onion
December 13, 2009 6:57 am

Brumby (04:13:32) :
The Booker article is indeed excellent. It is also a taste of things to come. Multinationals relocating manufacturing from West to East subsidized by carbon credits paid for by us! We get stuck with the bill, climbing unemployment and the social costs of all that jobless misery

Lake
December 13, 2009 7:07 am

My email to AP:
Please forward to:
Paul Colford, Director of Media Relations
Jack Stokes, Manager of Media Relations
(as listed on AP’s ‘Contact Us’ page)
I am a science teacher who is reading through the facts and opinions of the CRU ‘Climategate’ email and files in order to present my students with both sides of the debate. I have turned to the Associated Press coverage of many issues in the past, depending on your collective work for accurate quotes, balanced coverage, and unbiased reporting.
Today, I read a review entitled “E-mails show pettiness, not fraud”, linked here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34392959/ns/us_news-environment//
The review was authored in part by AP employee Seth Borenstein, and the authors’ ultimate conclusion is that the emails do not show any problems with the science or the data but merely reveal the scientists being petty and human.
This is a fair opinion from an outsider, and one worth taking into account. However, I was troubled to find that Mr. Borenstein is not an outsider; in fact, he is one of the correspondents in the emails. On July 23, 2009, Mr. Borenstein wrote an email to ‘Kevin, Gavin, and Mike’, three of the principle climate scientists involved in the emails. The email is archived here, in a nested reply: http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=988&filename=1248790545.txt
Mr. Borenstein wrote:
Kevin, Gavin, Mike,
It’s Seth again. Attached is a paper in JGR today that
Marc Morano
is hyping wildly. It’s in a legit journal. Whatchya think?
Seth
Seth Borenstein
Associated Press Science Writer
sborenstein@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
The Associated Press, 1100 13th St. NW, Suite 700,
Washington, DC
20005-4076
202-641-9454
In my mind, this reads as the correspondence of an insider and a person who has a specific viewpoint. I have no problem with Mr. Borenstein having these views, but I am suspicious that there is a conflict of interest when he is supposed to be reporting in an unbiased and objective matter on the same material. His opinion of the emails’ contents has clearly been stretched into the review of referenced above. Because he is part of the email set that he is reviewing, I believe he should recuse himself of this story as a party with a conflict of interest.
The media, and especially the gold standard of the AP, has a responsibility to separate themselves from the stories they cover. Mr. Borenstein cannot separate himself from this issue because he is in the emails, so he should not be reporting on it, in my opinion.
According to the The Associated Press Statement of News Values and Principles (linked here: http://www.ap.org/newsvalues/index.html ):
…ultimately, it means it is the responsibility of every one of us to ensure that these standards are upheld. Any time a question is raised about any aspect of our work, it should be taken seriously.
I am questioning an aspect of Mr. Borenstein’s work, and I believe it should be taken seriously by him and by your organization.
The following two sections from the Statement of News Values and Principles also apply:
CONFLICTS OF INTEREST
The AP respects and encourages the rights of its employees to participate actively in civic, charitable, religious, public, social or residential organizations.
However, AP employees must avoid behavior or activities – political, social or financial – that create a conflict of interest or compromise our ability to report the news fairly and accurately, uninfluenced by any person or action. Nothing in this policy is intended to abridge any rights provided by the National Labor Relations Act.
EXPRESSIONS OF OPINION:
Anyone who works for the AP must be mindful that opinions they express may damage the AP’s reputation as an unbiased source of news. They must refrain from declaring their views on contentious public issues in any public forum, whether in Web logs, chat rooms, letters to the editor, petitions, bumper stickers or lapel buttons, and must not take part in demonstrations in support of causes or movements.
I request that these concerns be forwarded to Mr. Borenstein’s editors and supervisors. I would appreciate an acknowledgement of receipt of this request and a response from Mr. Borenstein and other members of your staff that address conflict of interest issues. Thank you.
Joshua Lake

b_C
December 13, 2009 7:12 am

Seth Borenstein: just another thermomonger.

December 13, 2009 7:21 am

I’m not sure any of the AP team can report news anymore. It’s difficult to remember a well reported article from them. They have to have one, but where.
——
I just finished beating to death the GHCN antarctic temperatures. It seems there is about 8 times more warming than actual in the GHCN dataset.
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/ghcn-antarctic-warming-eight-times-actual/

Roger
December 13, 2009 7:23 am

Martin Brumby.
On the same day that we learned that Gordon Brown threw an extra £300m into the EU pot of £6.5m to combat CC, thus making UK the largest contributor, we learn that the recently announced State Pension increase for April of 2.5% will in fact be restricted to the basic pension of about £100 per week and will not be applied to the other fractions that make up most people’s entitlement.
And the savings that this will produce? Why, it is £300m !!!
I live in hope that some MSM outlet will make an excoriating connection, or at least construct a cogent apologia as to why pensioners, already paying for the financial disaster through truncated interest on their savings, should indirectly pay the price for Gordon Brown to grandstand on the world stage and offer largesse to dubious regimes proffering begging bowls.
Charity begins at home, and if this winter is as cold as last, there will be huge numbers suffering fuel poverty, a condition not visited on Politicians and government servants, all of whose workplaces are heated to unnecessarily tropical levels.

Pat Moffitt
December 13, 2009 7:44 am

Seth Borenstein admitted in his 2/2/07 AP article “Scientists Pull Few Punches in Climate Report” that IPP science was filtered by politics–“Scientists wrote the report and government officials edited it with an eye toward the required unanimous approval by world governments” Why did this not throw up warning flares? Certainly some questions as to why supposed scientific fact required government approval was warranted. And later in the same article he wrote “Scientists wrote the report and government officials edited it with an eye toward the required unanimous approval by world governments” Seth Borenstein actually broke the story of the collusion between government and scientists long before the leaked CRU Emails. Perhaps other writers will review Mr. Borenstein’s to see just how deep the collusion runs between scientists, government and the press. Obviously rhetorical.

A Lovell
December 13, 2009 8:13 am

wws (06:47:41)
Beautifully said. You have put into words what I sincerely hope is happening. Oh to be a fly on the wall!

Vincent
December 13, 2009 8:19 am

“The Booker article is indeed excellent. It is also a taste of things to come. Multinationals relocating manufacturing from West to East subsidized by carbon credits paid for by us!”
Britain has been reeling in recent years from the brutal competition of “globalisation”, so lauded by the taxpayer funded parasites like Blair and Gore. Now we have the next nail in the coffin of Britains economy, a gaming of the system, terrifying in its efficiency and savage in its consequences.
Beseiged not only by the “invisible hand of the market”, but now the visible hand of bureaucracy, which is itself driving heavy industry to leave these shores for India by giving them billions in carbon offsets which we then have to buy back to earn the right to consume our energy.
People are starting to wake up. The truth is out of the bottle. And just as the loosening of the grip of the State lead to the downfall of the Soviet Union, so will these revelations do likewise to this new global tyranny. But we must keep up the pressure. Give them no quarter, nor expect any in return. Let the battle be joined.

December 13, 2009 8:20 am


Bulldust (00:51:04) :
Rob (23:33:25) :
I am keeping half an eye on Google and their reported hits for “Climategate.” Bing’s hits peaked at 50 million plus and have stayed there. Oddly on Google they peaked just over 30 million, and now the “decline” has supposedly set in. That and the fact that Google has reportedly been lowering page ranks for sites containing the word “climatgate.”
Climategate hits on Google now down to 26.7 million. 1.5 million hits disappeared since yesterday.
Google is rapidly losing all credibility in my eyes.

Right; can you spell out the criteria by which THE COUNT is established anyway?
It isn’t like you know the process by which this is performed at all – how many dupes of ‘climategate’ were eliminted, resloving them to the primary source.
Where’s the “breach of contract?” Did you pay for a specified level of performance that wasn’t achieved?
Geesh. Get a grip man.
.
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Michael
December 13, 2009 8:26 am

Marc Morano great debate in Copenhagen

Bruckner8
December 13, 2009 8:29 am

When my brother majored in Political Science 20 years ago, I used to make fun of him cuz I called Poli-Sci an oxymoron. I used to say “Science has nothing to do with Politics and vice versa. Societies are built on Technology, not Politics. If Politicians actually followed any kind of Scientific Method, the world would instantly improve.”
Boy, was I wrong.

December 13, 2009 8:30 am

One big problem. That’s a LETTER.
Yes, I noted the same thing, by reading the URL. I am a reporter who thinks Climategate is extremely serious, because of the fraud uncovered. But you’ve got to be careful not to let obvious errors like this get through. Even though the substance of your argument isn’t hurt, any error impairs your credibility.
REPLY: Yes, it was a dumb error on my part. It has been corrected. Note my response above to the commenter that first noticed it. Thank you also for pointing it out. -A

December 13, 2009 8:30 am


Ron de Haan (06:16:47) :
If it’s your intention to destroy the free world, start with the press and the media.
That’s what going on here. Conspiracy anyone!

Ron, our dear little conspiratorialist, it is the drive, the desire, of every one of us to have some ‘control’ over our lives, our life, and even of those around us who may seem to be in need of of that ‘control’.
Control; Teachers do it . Bosses do it. Girlfriends do it. Wives do it. City Councils do it. Professional societies do it. ‘Standards’ bodies do it. Law enforcement types of many persuasions (including code enforcement etc.) do it.
It is the DEGREE to which we have negotiated allowance of that control would seem to be at stake here and it has little to do with the Bilderbergers or the CFR or any over bogey-man based shadowy group.
To that end, get OVER it.
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chris y
December 13, 2009 8:34 am

I have a nomination for quote of the week. From commenter TJA at Climateaudit, Posted Dec 13, 2009 at 6:55 AM on thread Daily Mail: Special Investigation-
“My opinion is that the Hockey Stick is sawdust now, and the emails make it pretty clear that “The Team” knew this at the time. In fact, one of the funniest things about the emails is that they show there was a “Hockey Team” except it was a little unbalanced, being composed of left wingers and slow defensemen and a goalie who counted on the goal judge not to switch on the red light when the puck crossed the line.”

photon without a Higgs
December 13, 2009 8:45 am

the AP is just part of the left controlled media. they’ve been having to lie all along about global warming. ClimateGate is making them tell bigger lies. that’s all.
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the only problem i see since ClimateGate broke is THE ‘SKEPTIC’ SIDE IS DOING NOTHING TO LET THE WORLD KNOW ABOUT THE COMPUTER CODE!
It’s up to our side to tell the world. But we’re just playing small ball talking about one very small part of ClimateGate.
It ridiculous to expect those who have political agendas to suddenly drop that agenda after all these years and to start caring that the real story be told.

photon without a Higgs
December 13, 2009 8:49 am

the AP is just being itself.
We are making it easy for the political left to sweep ClimateGate under the carpet.
I haven’t seen one ‘skeptic’ on tv, not one, talk about the enormity of ClimateGate. As a matter of fact I saw one minimize it. And that was, of all people, Steve McIntyre.
If the real story of ClimateGate is going to be told in the media then skeptics are going to have to stop waiting for someone else to do it.

Arthur Glass
December 13, 2009 8:51 am

“Societies are built on Technology, not Politics. If Politicians actually followed any kind of Scientific Method, the world would instantly improve.”
Way to Marxist for me! Structure and superstructure and all that.
In fact, it was part of the allure Marxism exercised over the European intelligentsia that it pretended to be able to reduce the complexities of human societies to a sort of ‘social physics’ (the term, I believe, is Comte’s), processes that can themselves ultimately be reduced to the physical laws that govern inanimate matter.

Mariss Freimanis
December 13, 2009 8:54 am

We should take what Seth Borenstein says on faith. He is a “peer reviewed” reporter.

Arthur Glass
December 13, 2009 8:59 am

Jim: To paraphrase Juvenal, Who will control the controllers themselves?
Boy, ‘Bilderbergers’ is certainly a blast from the Looney Tunes ’70’s. How about the Trilateral Commission?
Is that sulfur I smell, or Lyndon LaRouche?

photon without a Higgs
December 13, 2009 9:02 am

J.Hansford (23:42:11) :
The bias is so blatant, it’s breathtaking.
AP is no longer a news outlet, it’s become a propaganda mouth piece for Ecofascism… Pravda for all things AGW.

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The mainstream media has been controlled by the political left since probably the days of Walter Cronkite. This is nothing new. Global warming is from the political left. What the AP is doing is no surprise.
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That the ‘skeptics’ are letting ClimateGate slip through their fingers because they thought the left wing media would make it a big story but the opposite is now happening—THAT IS A REAL TRAVESTY!