AP's Seth Borenstein is just too damn cozy with the people he covers – time for AP to do something about it

Upthread a poster noted that Roger Harribin appears in the emails.
It may be perfectly innocuous, but it made me wonder how many people are getting sucked into this mess either by association by appearing on the Cc list or by active involvement such as Mr Borenstein/Richard Black.
I imagine that a lot of people are trawling the database for their names – perhaps a more detailed look for lesser well known people would be worth it.

The same thing that happened to Dan Rather will probably happen here. The AGW scientists will go to their grave claiming doom but will fade from the scene because of the embarrassment of the obvious fraud. People just have a need to hate somebody and this time around it’s capitalism and the free market. Well hate it all you want but C and FM will survive and grow even stronger.
The have nots that for a large part don’t want to help themselves but only want someone else to help them have learned that they can vote themselves money. This transfer of wealth from the developed countries to the undeveloped is the goal here not saving the planet. The problem is the elites that are so self absorbed that they can’t see the obvious conflict of interest like flying to a save the world from air concert in a private jet spewing jet exhaust out the back while sipping wine and reading about Tiger Woods’ latest fling.
Sweet and priceless are words that come to my mind at this point. AP looks like a fool and they don’t even know it. Bagdad Bob- “We have them surrounded in their tanks.”
Thanks Anthony for keeping a level head through all of this. We need to stay on top of this for the press will try and bury it.

@Deadman
Clive James, on the BBC, has a very articulatePoint of View on the whole CRUx of the matter.
Can anyone provide a transcript; it would be essential reading.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00p6vln/A_Point_of_View_11_12_2009/
This is a great post and it is worth listening too. He deals with future prediction in an hilarious way and also warns against realists getting carried away and falling into the trap of the alarmists.

Luc Hansen:
The money that would be transferred by the Copenhagen Treaty to the “poor” countries will never reach the people in those countries. Like almost all preceding international “aid” money, it will be pocketed by the unscrupulous rulers of those countries.
Meanwhile, if you want your daughter to have a future worth living, you should be alarmed about the so-called “climate scientists” who are corrupting the very basis of science itself, upon which all our futures depend.

I think it’s time to add a fourth BIG LIE to the list.
1 Of course I’ll respect you in the morning.
2 Your cheque’s in the post.
3 I’m from the government and I’m here to help you.
4 These emails have been taken out of context.
By the way, MichaelL, (3:56:21) I also had a look at Luc Hansen’s website. A strange man indeed. No relation to Jim I take it!

@plato
Roger Harribin wasn’t copied into an email, it was addressed to him amongst others. The contents of the email are not controversial, but it does make you wonder what access these people had to BBC journalists, especially when you see BBC reports, which are essentially press releases by The Team

Does anyone actually put any stock in this AP announcement?
Are these guys kidding me? The AP makes this ridiculous statement, and we are all supposed to figure the issue is settled? One of the main suspects said he didn’t do it. That’s OK then. It seems, their conclusions are reached by the fact that nowhere in the emails did anyone say “we faked it”.
These guys are a bunch of journalists, for goodness sake. Seth Borenstein, for one, has been a hysterical eco-maniacial pro-AGW writer for years and years.
The University of East Anglia investigation is supposed to take months and months. The Penn State investigation is also going to take months and months. Yet when the Associated Press, a bunch of newspapermen, take a few days and decide that everything is hunky-dory – investigation closed – we are supposed to be impressed. How are we supposed to figure these journalists came to their decision? Did they take a poll of other journalists? Did they poll themselves?
Conclusions
1.) Tree ring-based temperature reconstructions are fraught with so much uncertainty, they have no value whatsoever.
It is impossible to tease out the relative contributions of rainfall, nutrients, temperature and access to sunlight. A single tree can, and apparently has, skewed the entire 20th century temperature reconstruction.
2.) The IPCC’s so-called “peer review process” is fundamentally flawed if a lead author is able to both disregard and ignore criticisms of his own work, where that work is the critical core of the chapter. It not only destroys the credibility of the core assumptions and data, it destroys the credibility of the larger work – in this case, the IPCC summary report and all the underlying technical reports. It also destroys the utility and credibility of the modeling efforts that use assumptions on the relationship of carbon dioxide to temperature that are based on Britta’s work, which is, of course, the majority of such analysis.

I hope this is effective. I have written to them many times but it needs to come from you guys in order to have any real impact at all.
So many of us appreciate your efforts.

“The story that AP SHOULD have written…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1235395/SPECIAL-INVESTIGATION-Climate-change-emails-row-deepens–Russians-admit-DID-send-them.html”
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That daily mail headline is very misleading as most of the article refers to the holes in the defence of the “trick” and is broadly sceptical of AGW science. The end of the article refers to the Russians admitting that the zip file of leaked info was posted on a Russian server, but ends with saying that anyone from anywhere in the world could have posted it there and it is ridiculous to blame the Russians.
But then what else would you expect from the religious climate alarmists, but wild and unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.

If it’s your intention to destroy the free world, start with the press and the media.
That’s what going on here. Conspiracy anyone!

Here’s Clive James’ article for those having problems accessing it.
A POINT OF VIEW
Having one-sided discussions about climate change helps no-one, says Clive James in his weekly column.
About 40 years ago now, the world used to hear a lot from a futurologist called Herman Kahn. Of ample girth and unquenchable volubility, Herman Kahn, who died in 1983, was always making confident pronouncements about what would happen in the future.
So and so, he would say, would happen 10, 20, 25 years years from now. It wouldn’t happen tomorrow, so that you could check up on it straightaway, but it would happen 10, 20, 25 years from now.
Some of us realised that he had invented a new unit of time, and we gave it a name. In tribute to Fermi, who could measure electrons, we called his new unit of time the Hermie. The merit of the Hermie, as a unit of measurement, was that, while being vague, it sounded impressive.
The prediction itself might or might not have been right. Herman Kahn predicted that within one Hermie everyone in the West would fly his own helicopter and have access to free-fall sex.
That didn’t happen within one Hermie, but it still might happen in the next Hermie.
All we can be sure of is that Herman Kahn’s language exemplified an impressive way of talking about the future, a way of sounding impressive that sounded less impressive only when you realised that sounding impressive was its main motive. Big things would happen. It was big talk. And it paid the penalty of all big talk. As you got used to it, you got tired of it.
Language of alarm
Over the last 10 years we have heard a lot about how civilisation would be in trouble if it didn’t soon do something drastic about global warming. But this impressive message tended to sound less impressive as time went on. It wasn’t just that the globe uncooperatively declined to get warmer during the last 10 years.
It was that the language of alarm wore out its welcome as it became ever more assertive about what had not yet happened.
The brief, unarguably still hot period, when the world had somehow refused to grow any hotter was soon explained, although it seemed strange that it had not been predicted.
The world, when it resumed warming again would heat up by so many degrees, or so many more degrees than that, and within 10, 20, 25 years – within a single Hermie – there would be the corpses of fried polar bears floating past your penthouse window.
According to the media, scientists were agreed, the science was settled, science said, that all this would happen. The media promoted this settled science, and the politicians went along with the media. The whole deal had the UN seal of approval.
The coming catastrophe that had to be averted wasn’t exactly like knowing when the asteroid would arrive so you could send Bruce Willis, but unless we did something, irreversible damage, if not certain doom, was only a Hermie or two away.
Today, after recent events at the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit, that supposedly settled science is still the story, but the story is in question. Suddenly there are voices to pronounce that the reputation of science will lie in ruins for the next 50 years.
For two Hermies at least, nobody will trust a single thing that a scientist says. Well, even to a non-scientist like myself, that last prediction sounds suspiciously like the others.
Layman’s reading
My own view is that true science, the spirit of critical inquiry that unites all scientists, or is supposed to, is reasserting itself after being out-shouted by at least half a Hermie of uninterrupted public relations. But I hasten to admit that my view is not only not the view of a scientist, it is the view of somebody who can still remember the first day he was exposed to calculus and froze as if in a new Ice Age.
As I said in one of these columns earlier in the season – In praise of scepticism – before the events at the Climate Research Unit, my only position on the matter of man-made global warming was that from my own layman’s background reading I thought the reported scientific unanimity that global warming is man-made, and likely to be catastrophic, was always a more active area of scientific debate than you would have guessed from the way the media told the story.
Just saying that much was enough to get me condemned by one of the broadsheet environmentalist gurus. He said I was an old man resistant to the facts because I didn’t care what happened to the world after I was gone.
As I bounced my grand-daughter on my knee, rather hoping that in the course of the next Hermie she would not be obliged to star in a remake of Waterworld as the sea rose 30 feet above her house, I bit back a rude word.
But the guru still had a point when he said my scepticism about the settled science was a wilful defiance of established fact. Unfortunately the fact had been established largely by the media, who had been telling only one story. If you said the story might have two sides, that sounded like scepticism.
People in my position had to get used to being called sceptics, as if scepticism were a bad thing. We even had to get used to being called denialists, although clearly it was an unscrupulous word.
We were also called, are still called, flat-earthers by people like Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband, but that kind of abuse is comparatively easy to take, because everybody knows that neither man would be capable of proving mathematically that the earth is not a cube.
Mainstream media
So what happened at the Climate Research Unit? Well, basically nothing new. A bunch of e-mails got hacked, or perhaps leaked. Some of the phrases that supposedly reveal skulduggery reveal a lot less when you put them in the context of what, we are told, was only locker-room enthusiasm.
In the correspondence columns of the scientific websites – where the level of discussion has consistently been miles above anything the mainstream media has provided for the last decade – there are already wise voices to warn that the sceptics should not make the same mistake as the believers by treating any slip they can find in the arguments of their opponents as evidence of the biggest fraud since Bernie Madoff made off with the money.
That would be Hermie talk, and self-defeating, because the more absolutist man-made global warming case has always looked sufficiently vulnerable just by the way it has been reluctant to listen to opposing voices no matter how well qualified.
There has never been any point, and there is no point now, in calling the warmists a bunch of devious conspirators against the truth. All you ever had to do was notice how their more strident representatives didn’t want to hear any other opinions, even when the opinions came from within their own ranks.
Far from there having been unanimity among scientists on the subject of catastrophic man-made global warming, there has scarcely been unanimity among climate scientists. It only takes one dissenting voice to punch a hole in the idea of unanimity, if that voice has a chance of being right.
There was a time when almost every scientist except Einstein thought that Newton had buttoned up the subject of celestial mechanics. And this time, on the subject of global warming, there was always, right from the beginning, a number of climate scientists who didn’t endorse the alarmist picture.
You could say that the number was small, and a few of them were vengeful because they had been sidelined for not being sufficiently doom-laden in their claims. But a few of them were older men who just wouldn’t go along with the prevailing emphasis.
Orthodox view
One of these few was Prof Lindzen of MIT. I never could convince myself that the professor of meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology knew less about the earth’s climate than I did, so I started to watch him. Hopeless on the media, Prof Lindzen is the sort of pundit with a four figure IQ who can somehow never figure out that you are supposed to talk into the
microphone.
His fellow anti-alarmist Prof Fred Singer not only formed a thought too slowly for radio, he was too slow for smoke signals. But gradually, as I watched the side roads, it seemed to me that these few dissenting scientists with zero PR skills increased in number.
The number of scientists who endorsed the orthodox view increased also, but the number of those who didn’t went up instead of down. I couldn’t do the calculus, but I could count heads.
There were scores of eminent scientists who signed the 2007 open letter to the secretary general of the UN, and then later on there were hundreds quoted in the US senate minority reports.
It could be said that few of them had expertise in climate science, but that argument looked less decisive when you considered that climate science itself was exactly what they were bringing into question.
So science was not speaking with one voice on the matter. It only seemed to be, because the media, on the whole, was giving no other story. Then this Climate Research Unit thing happened, and it was the end of the monologue. The dialogue has begun again.
The scientists are arguing on the matter, which is the proper thing for science to do, because in science the science is never settled. Some say that the argument about how all this happened will go on for another two Hermies at least.
We can hear, from deep underground, the contented purr of Herman Kahn. It’s all turning out exactly as he predicted.

Glab 02:57:11,
yes you are right. That quote appears to be from a letter and not an article.
However questioning the other research on here as a result of that minor faux pas is a bit rich.
Please also apply your obviously rigid standards to the leaked e-mails scandal.