Climategate: CATO's Pat Michaels and Center for American Progress Dan Weiss on Fox News

Dan Weiss from the Center for American Progress seems to have more than a little trouble with this interview. I wonder why they didn’t ask Joe Romm to be on?

Left to right: Michaels and Weiss

Here’s the video description as posted on YouTube:

Hackers broke into thousands of emails and documents from the Climate Research Unit at East Anglia University last week and uncovered the global warming conspiracy.

Stuart Varney interviews scientist Pat Michaels, with the CATO institute, who was the target of physical threat from Climate Scientist Ben [Santer]. He also DESTROYS  Dan Weiss, from the Center for American Progress.

Calls for an independent inquiry into what is being dubbed “Climategate” are growing as the foundation for man-made global warming implodes following the release of emails which prove researchers colluded to manipulate data in order to “hide the decline” in global temperatures.

In an interview with The Washington Times on Monday, Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) announced he would probe whether the U.N.s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) cooked the science to make this thing look as if the science was settled, when all the time of course we knew it was not.

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Rev Dr E Buzz
November 26, 2009 6:57 pm

I guess I wouldn’t have such a hard line on all this if these idiots weren’t trying to tell me how to live my life, when they know, and are fully cognizant, that their reasoning is total crap.
That’s what pisses me off. They know they are lying, but don’t care. Lunatics and scumbags, all of them.

John M
November 26, 2009 7:18 pm

Icarus (17:14:16) :

However, I do know that Anthony’s claim about researchers colluding to “manipulate data in order to ‘hide the decline’ in global temperatures” is simply false, as the ‘decline’ referred to is a decline in wood density, not a decline in temperature at all (and I think there was an implied link to the recent ‘global cooling’ meme too, whereas the original email was over a decade ago).

I can tell you haven’t read the e-mails, yet you feel confident in commenting on one of them. Here’s the e-mail in question:

From: Phil Jones
To: ray bradley ,mann[snipped], mhughes[snipped]
Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
Cc: k.briffa[snipped],t.osborn[snipped]
Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
Once Tim’s got a diagram here we’ll send that either later today or first thing tomorrow. I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd [sic] from1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline. Mike’s series got the annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.
Thanks for the comments, Ray.
Cheers, Phil
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit

He’s not talking about any “cooling meme”, he’s not talking about wood density, he’s talking about temperatures and replacing the temperatures derived from tree ring data with temperatures from instruments.
This is known as a splice or a graft, which the inventor of the trick is on record as saying “know one would ever do” (paraphrase).
Most folks familiar with this subject know exactly what’s going on. Those who are somewhat confused can see a very clear explanation here.
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=7844
If you’re still confused, try here.
http://camirror.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/the-trick/

John M
November 26, 2009 7:23 pm

Unless of course, you have joined the rest of us and question the validity of tree rings as thermometers. I suppose if what you’re saying is the temperatures derived from tree rings are not “real” temperatures…
Hmmmmm.

Icarus
November 27, 2009 5:00 am

John M (19:18:45) :
…he’s talking about temperatures and replacing the temperatures derived from tree ring data with temperatures from instruments.

So you seem to be saying that Anthony’s claim, here:
…emails which prove researchers colluded to manipulate data in order to “hide the decline” in global temperatures.
… is completely false – That there was no such ‘decline in global temperatures’ being ‘hidden’.
Thanks, I agree.

John M
November 27, 2009 11:08 am

Icarus (05:00:24) :
It does appear we agree. Tree rings do not represent global temperatures.
Thanks for being so reasonable.

TerryBixler
November 27, 2009 5:55 pm

Weiss’s big dagger was that Bush believed the lies he was fed. So how many other people have believed those lies. AGW is founded on lies so so far there are millions of believers. Governments are acting on lies. It is hard to describe how deep these lies have undermined science and government. It is not even clear that government will own up to this huge deception. To my mind this dwarfs watergate as it is international in nature with the corruption affecting every country.

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