
This is one big surprise. Moments of serendipity are some of the best quotes of science: “Hmmm, that’s odd”. As an amateur radio operator myself, I find this study fascinating. If you want to know more about VLF radio, see the NASA online VLF radio receiver link below.

Learn more (and listen to the signals) at NASA’s INSPIRE online VLF radio receiver. – Anthony
From Tel Aviv University: A Lightning Strike in Africa Helps Take the Pulse of the Sun
TAU discovers an accurate tool for tracking solar rotation
Sunspots, which rotate around the sun’s surface, tell us a great deal about our own planet. Scientists rely on them, for instance, to measure the sun’s rotation or to prepare long-range forecasts of the Earth’s health.
But there are some years, like this one, where it’s not possible to see sunspots clearly. When we’re at this “solar minimum,” very few, if any, sunspots are visible from Earth. That poses a problem for scientists in a new scientific field called “Space Weather,” which studies the interaction between the sun and the Earth’s environment.
Thanks to a serendipitous discovery by Tel Aviv University‘s Prof. Colin Price, head of TAU’s Department of Geophysics and Planetary Science, and his graduate student Yuval Reuveni, science now has a more definitive and reliable tool for measuring the sun’s rotation when sunspots aren’t visible — and even when they are. The research, published in the Journal of Geophysical Research – Space Physics, could have important implications for understanding the interactions between the sun and the Earth. Best of all, it’s based on observations of common, garden-variety lightning strikes here on Earth.
Waxing and waning, every 27 days
Using Very Low Frequency (VLF) wire antennas that resemble clotheslines, Prof. Price and his team monitored distant lightning strikes from a field station in Israel’s Negev Desert. Observing lightning signals from Africa, they noticed a strange phenomenon in the lightning strike data — a phenomenon that slowly appeared and disappeared every 27 days, the length of a single full rotation of the sun.
“Even though Africa is thousands of miles from Israel, lightning signals there bounce off the Earth’s ionosphere — the envelope surrounding the Earth — as they move from Africa to Israel,” Prof. Price explains. “We noticed that this bouncing was modulated by the sun, changing throughout its 27-day cycle. The variability of the lightning activity occurring in sync with the sun’s rotation suggested that the sun somehow regulates the lightning pattern.”
He describes it as akin to hearing music or voices from across a lake: depending on the humidity, temperature and wind, sometimes they’re crystal clear and sometimes they’re inaudible. He discovered a similar anomaly in the lightning data due to the changes in the Earth’s ionosphere — signals waxed and waned on a 27-day cycle. Prof. Price was able to show that this variability in the data was not due to changes in the lightning activity itself, but to changes in the Earth’s ionosphere, suspiciously in tandem with the sun’s rotation.
Taking the pulse of the sun
The discovery describes a phenomenon not clearly understood by scientists. Prof. Price, an acclaimed climate change scientist, believes it may help scientists formulate new questions about the sun’s effect on our climate. “This is such a basic parameter and not much is known about it,” says Prof. Price. “We know that Earth rotates once every 24 hours, and the moon once every 27.3 days. But we haven’t been able to precisely measure the rotation rate of the sun, which is a ball of gas rather than a solid object; 27 days is only an approximation. Our findings provide a more accurate way of knowing the real rotation rate, and how it changes over time,” he says.
Prof. Price cannot yet say how this finding will impact life on Earth. “It’s an interesting field to explore,” he says, “because nothing has been done to investigate the links between changing weather patterns and the rotation of the sun.
“Short-term changes in solar activity can also impact satellite performance, navigational accuracy, the health of astronauts, and even electrical power grid failures here on Earth. Many scientists claim that the sun’s variability is linked to changes in climate and weather patterns, so the small changes we observed every 27 days could also be related to small variations in weather patterns.
“Our data may help researchers examine short-term connections between weather, climate, and sun cycles. With this tool, we now have a good system for measuring the pulse of the sun.”

What’s odd is that there would have to be something asymmetric about the Sun which would be causing this. Whatever it is has lasted long enough to be noticed.
The Lunar timing is interesting, and I’m sure they had fun eliminating that.
Incidentally, the rotation period of part of the Sun is not sufficient when you’re playing with numbers. It has to be offset by the distance which the Earth moves along its orbit in 27 days, which is significant. Of course, maybe the part of the Sun which is causing the effect is rotating faster than the slowest part, and happens to be in sync with the Earth. Odd coincidence.
Yaakoda,
One second is defined as 9,192,631,770 cycles of the radiation of caesium atoms, that won’t change with sea level. We can monitor the rotation of earth from the background stars (sidereal time).
Every so often, scientists add in an extra second in a year to keep sidereal time lined up with the universe.
If the rate of spin changed we would know all about it.
Yaakoba (19:59:01) :
As evan said
In fact LOD has increased, but it’s <1s/Yr total effect.
If anyone knows better, I will stand corrected on that one.
DaveE
Apostrophe rules
[Sorry Evan, they left you out.]
BTW, possessive of Jones can either be Jones’ or Jones’s. Consistency is important — just don’t mix forms.
DaveE
Thanks, I need all I can get, I tend to leave them lying around.
Don’t wanna fall out over it guys, times & styles change I guess 😛
BTW. I should probably have said much less than 1s/Yr total LOD change effect.
DaveE.
In the UK is there such an expression as “Keeping up with the Joneses”?
Just Curious
Gravity is kinetic energy. With the earth’s population of people, animals, and modern building, there will be more gravity energy created, increasing thermal heat. As ice melts and becomes liquid, this also increases gravity pull, which creates more energy created by kinetic heat. As the gravity of the earth increases with population this will increase the earths rotation, creating more kinetic heat. Speeding up time.
“First off, the sun does not rotate every 27 days, it’s not a solid body and there is a different rotation rate for each latitude.”
I thought exactly the same thing. The rotation period of the sun varies with latitude.
Wikipedia:
So it would appear that equatorial rotation period would be what is interesting.
D Gallagher (20:44:14) :
Yes and it always infuriated me as I’d had it drummed into me from an early age, at home AND at school, that you don’t pluralise Evans, which is my surname, as Evanses but Evans’
As I read the article the very first thing that slapped me in the face was the 27 day rotation of the sun effecting the propagation of lignting EMF, wasn’t that the orbital timing of the moon? But of course it is!
Is this new science discovery or new BS postulation ??
Yaakoba,
You are correct, but don’t worry you’ll speed up too. So even though your life is going to go past much faster, you’ll be able to fit more into it.
Trust me, it will all even out. Find something else to worry about.
Back before Digital TV took over, when I didn’t want to see the commercials on TV I would switch channels to a channel that was empty in the Seattle area. Usually chan.3. Occasionally I would get a weak signal, very occasionally the signal would be strong enough to produce a picture. From an ad for a rug company I found I was getting chan.3 from Phoenix AZ. Once I got PBS Prairie States and once I got some other PBS station. Seemed more likely to happen during rain storms. Stranger than that is Hams transmitting long distances by bouncing signals off the ionized trails that micrometeorites make as they burn up in the upper atmosphere.
In the UK is there such an expression as “Keeping up with the Joneses”?
In the US, too.
I’d had it drummed into me from an early age, at home AND at school, that you don’t pluralise Evans, which is my surname, as Evanses but Evans’
Well, my mother was a copy editor (U.S.). The way I got it was that you can’t use an apostrophe to denote a plural. I think Evanses is correct, after all, for plural of Evans. And, of course, Evans is plural of Evan.
Plural of Jones is Joneses.
(Hmm. Would being named Evan Jones count for anything?)
Thanks for the typo correction with the requested snip.
You moderators go above & beyond the call of duty & it’s appreciated. 😀
DaveE.
[REPLY – Well, I was there already, so I figured, why not. (Normally I don’t copy edit posts.) ~ Evan]
Joneses and Jones’ are two different things. Joneses is plural, Jones’ is possessive as in belonging to the Joneses.
The Joneses up the street have a mower. I borrowed Mr. Jones’ mower to cut my lawn.
It is the difference between cats and cat’s for example. The first showing plurality, the second showing possession. I chased the cats. I took the cats’ ball from them.
Yes. And Jones’s is acceptable for possessive singular. (It would be Joneses’ for plural possessive.)
So far as I know, both the s’ and s’s form are correct for possessive (when singular ends in s). Pick one and make sure you are consistent throughout the document in question.
As I understand it Evan. My name, David Evans, is akin to David son of Evan, Evans being the possessive of Evan.
Who says we’re all anonymous?
I’m actually proud of my Welsh name, it’s just that DaveE is shorter to type.
DaveE.
Incidentally.
The Welsh pronunciation of David is Taffit which is why the Welsh are often given the nickname Taff.
DaveE.
That may be the etymology, but to denote actual possessive, you’d need the apostrophe. The apostrophe was dropped out of last names by convention, but possessive of Evan is definitely Evan’s.
Google no doubt has more on possessives. I’m sure Strunk/White has a web page. (I do have a couple of professional copy edit/proofreader credits, but I am not really a qualified expert.)
Evan Jones is about as Welsh a name as it gets, but I am not Welsh, myself.
I earlier posted the location of the Rugby UK VLF communications aerial. As far as I know this is now rarely used but the whole point of VLF was that you could transmit signals around the world without the need for repeaters. Rugby was about 15kHz.
I may have been misinformed but I was given the impression that there were even lower frequency transmitters on the military network, (telephone frequency 3kHz & lower).
DaveE.
I think we’ll agree to disagree on possessive apostrophes.
I can only go by what I was taught, more moons ago than I really care to remember.
I nearly mistyped that as moans. Probably not that inaccurate, 😉
DaveE.
Agreement on astrophysics is more important than agreement on apostrophes.
Was an attempt made to correlate the flux in lightning patterns with heliospheric current sheet crossings?