A survey report titled Climate Confidence Monitor commissioned in part by the Earthwatch Institute, World Wildlife Fund, and the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute shows that confidence that we can actually manage climate change has been falling for the last two years in most countries:
The question was: “I believe we will stop climate change”.
They cite in the report:
A fall in optimism and low levels of confidence in leaders suggest that people are becoming more pessimistic about the scale of the challenge that climate change presents.
I suppose that is one way to spin it. Here’s some other findings from the report.
First here is the report that you can read yourself:
Here’s a graph I found interesting:
The answers suggest to me that the responses are more about saving money than saving the planet.
h/t to WUWT reader PaulM
Control of ‘Climate Change’ is God’s realm.
Government Climate Control is a modern Tower of Babel;
Pride comes before the fall.
The most significant change in the UK media lately has been the increasing sensitivity of the alarmists when faced with any sort of questioning of their beliefs. Take the “Point of View” program on the BBC two weeks ago. Clive James expressed his admiration for independent thinkers who refuse to go along with consensus, and form their own opinion based upon facts.
The reaction to his talk is still reverberating, and has now reached the level of personal abuse from Monbiot and others in the media ganging up on him for speaking up for skeptics.
It’s amazing to consider that Clive James provoked such a hysterical reaction after talking on the radio for less than 15 minutes, when compared to the global warming worshipers who have managed to monopolize the media and broadcast thousands of hours of climate change hogwash for years.
“It certainly doesn’t reflect the state of the science, which has hardened dramatically over the past two years. If you don’t believe me, open any recent edition of Science or Nature or any peer-reviewed journal specialising in atmospheric or environmental science.” Monbiot.
Who’s up for the challenge? I say, let’s get a list of papers criticising AGW and send it to Monbiot in the hope he’ll eat his words. Here’s my choice:
http://sciences.blogs.liberation.fr/home/files/Cazenave_et_al_GPC_2008.pdf
This paper by Cazanave shows that the rate of sea level rise has slowed since 2003, and in particular, the steric component (due to thermic expansion) has plunged, confirming that there has been no increase in OHC in that period.
Gail Combs (12:30:24)
“I was praying he could hold off signing that blasted treaty for another six months or so. With luck the UK will still hold a referendum vote of her people next summer but I doubt it since the treaty has now been ratified”
The Tories have just announced that they’ve dropped the referendum idea as the Lisbon deal has been done and there’s no way back!
Thomas J. Arnold. (11:20:41) :
Monbiot is worried:
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It occurs to me that Monbiot’s way over the top attack on Clive James, who was only after all writing in praise of healthy scepticism, may be because he is, as far as I can recall, the only non-scientist celebrity to publicly question AGW in the UK.
I suspect that the warmists are terrified of celebrities turning against them and especially dread the thought of comics making jokes at their expense. That is what would totally bring down AGW in the public eyes, not learned peer-review papers.
Once AGW becomes a subject for ridicule on “Have I Got News For You” and “Mock the Week” in the UK, and on their equivalents elsewhere, then it’s all over.
So James has to be stamped down upon hard so that no-one else can doubt what treatment they would get. Clive James isn’t on mainstream TV much these days but otherwise I suspect that his career would be in jeopardy.
In his nasty attack on James. Monbiot can’t attack James intelligence so he attacks his age and wonders why many of the people who dare to question the great Monbiot’s beliefs are in their 60’s and 70’s. The irony being, of course, that if they were any younger the likes of Monbiot would do their best to make sure that they never worked again.
Everyone is missing the big picture. The fact that people like to “Donate Money” to relieve their eco guilt reveals it all. Its far less painfull to throw away a few bucks than to actually drastically change your lifestyle.
As they say, “There is a sucker born every day”
Can we stop time? When we can stop time, we can stop climate change.
Monbiot is clearly in the pay of the world bank owners. Even he must know that the CAGW hypothesis has been falsified?
I don’t think there is even a small chance that the Copenhagen treaty will be signed this year.
“Actually they guys who give them money are the banker/oilmen just like Back2Bat keeps saying.” Gail
Well, I haven’t said anything about oilmen since they actually do something rather than just create money from nothing.
The bankers have created an insane world whether they meant to or not. They just thought to get rich and powerful. Now they are stuck with the responsibility too.
“Can we do it?”, cry the alarmists.
The people reply, “No, we can’t be bothered!”
The reality is that AGW is not important to ordinary folk.
The question was: “I believe we will stop climate change”.
Time for King Canute to show us what can be done when you believe *really really hard*…
Regardless of this result, I believe the political machine that is AGW is unstoppable. It will be foolish however for any politician to ignor public opinion.
Obama, Rudd, Brown, are you listening?
As someone who does business in Asia, I think the discrepancy on optimism between those in China/India and the rest of us in the West can also be explained by the relative stages of our cultural development. China and India have recently been unshackled from decades of socialist policies and there is an enormous release of pent up innovation and drive. they’re seeing the potential of human initiative and it’s reflected in their outlook on life.
In much of the West however a malaise has set in. Government is increasingly taking over our lives, we’ve developed a form of cultural self-loathing where we view ourselves as agents of destruction rather than progress, and in a way we have simply gotten lazy after decades of conflict-free prosperity.
So just as a pollster might expect different levels of optimism from people in Asia than they do in the West, I too as a businessman would expect that by hiring in Asia I’m – generally – going to get a much more driven and forward-looking employee.
Luboš Motl (10:22:06) :
Barack Obama who is the acting president of the U.S.
Funny! 😉
It would be nice if he’d start acting like a real president.
Gail Combs (12:30:24) :
Knowing that Europe is lost, Lord Monckton has directed his activities to stop the Climate Scam to the USA, the only place in the world where it really matters.
Unfortunately the ship is already sinking.
Time is running out.
Thomas J. Arnold. (11:20:41) :
Monbiot is worried:…. “There is no point in denying it: we’re losing”…
Then he goes on to say people are not listening to the science. What a mindless ideologue he is!
Lucy Skywalker (11:55:14) :
Monbiot should have been reading all the replies to his stuff all this last year, he should have paid attention…
People hear what they want to hear—even scientist. Last I checked scientists are people. 😉
Gail Combs (12:30:24) :
International treaties mean nothing to the average American. The only question is : do people want to make the effort to keep European rule out of America. I think they, on average (or is it mean), do….at least once more. After that I don’t know.
The demographics of the American population is changing.
The demographic that is the descendants of those who left Europe for a better life in the USA, and who still don’t want European rule creeping in, is shrinking. When other demographics overtake that demographic I think America will become very different.
Gene Nemetz (16:44:32) :
Last I checked scientists are people. 😉
Some of us are anyway…
Does anyone think an executive summary staying strictly to the facts (with citations to back up the facts) – citing the following… I welcome additions…
This summary would be an attempt to bring reason to the masses in a form they may understand…
1. The Earth’s climate has fluctuated constantly for billions of years.
2. The Earth has been _________ degrees cooler than now.
3. The Earth has been _________ degrees warmer than now.
4. Although some men may think they are more powerful than nature – and can control the climate – history has shown otherwise.
5. Why on earth would anyone name a block of ICE ‘Greenland’.
etc…
What does everyone think?
Jon
A shrewd job of polling by the warmongers. Guess its result will be good for another quick soundbite.
We’ll wish we could stop Climate Change after the next Ice Age begins.
Gail Combs (13:16:26) :
‘You will notice Waxman is behind the food safety bill HR 2749.’
I wonder who wrote that bill? The Tide Foundation?
TERRY46 (10:01:50) :
It’s good to see people are coming around and understanding that you can’t control the climate or weather.
It would also help if they came to understand they can’t control human nature, or man’s rational thought.
William (12:03:37) :
O?T but British law now says that a belief in climate change can be likened to a belief in religion. Says it all really.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/6494213/Climate-change-belief-given-same-legal-status-as-religion.html
How is this in the UK: Are you allowed to practice your religious ceremonies at your place of work?