While looking at some of the organizations that our “amateur Wikipedia grapher cum UNEP cited as peer reviewed source” belongs to I came across the German webpage of “Friends of the Earth”. This is an organization that Hanno Sandvik says he himself belongs to.
This is what I found on the German “Friends of the Earth” page:

Main link here Translated link here
The absurd Atom-Alarm game shows airplanes crashing into the pressure vessel, nuclear waste casks spewing out directly into the ground, and the cooling towers cracking. In other words, things that haven’t happened in real life operation of nuclear plants. The Nuclear Energy Institute has a report about what would happen if a plane crashed (Boeing 767) into a nuclear power plant here. They write:
The containment structure was not breached, despite some crushing and spalling (chipping of material at the impact point) of the concrete.
They’ve even done crash tests with a fighter jet into the wall segments of a nuclear plant. Would a nuclear power plant withstand a 9/11 style terrorist attack? Yes.
According to the Atom-Alarm game instructions, your task, as one individual, is to keep any of this happening for a period of a million years. This of course is impossible, since the game is rigged to ensure failure.
Here’s what they say about it (via Google Translation which is broadly imperfect):
Nuclear waste casks, terrorist pilots, temperature fluctuations
As an operator of a fictional nuclear power plants will be after you press the start button immediately often claimed. Some appear as routine – as if the increasing number of dangerous nuclear waste drums to be disposed of brilliant. It is important to keep risky temperature fluctuations under control. Or the unexpected happens, when it comes to earthquakes, and the aging nuclear power plant in cracked concrete. No sooner are the cracks forming, then a bomber pilot on the horizon and wants to throw himself on the reactors.
Power plant management, desperately overstretched
A million years is to ensure the safety of the players of the nuclear plant. For this purpose a counter runs backwards. Even after ten or twenty years ago – played three, and felt hectic 15 minutes – is the infernal noise of sonicated power plant management, desperately overstretched. Damp hands cramp the finger and a steadily increasing accident rate can rise to serious doubts – first at the response and later on his own megalomania to try to keep such a risky technology and the ever-radiant nuclear waste for millennia under control.
Yeah, whatever. So that you can remain terrorized on the go, or terrorize nearby people at the bus/train/plane station, you can download and install the iPhone app direct from Apple’s app store. Here’s what it looks like in use:
Atomic Alarm for iPhone and iPod (for free)
- Direct link Atomic Alarm in the App Store (Apple’s iTunes software installed required)
- Or just type in the App Store “Atomic Alert” as a search
There’s a recent alarmist film out called “The Age of Stupid”. When I see things like this, I agree that we certainly seem to be living in it.
Of course the engineering testing proving that planes don’t actually penetrate the pressure vessels of nuclear plants doesn’t stop organizations like Greenpeace from spreading more stupid:
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Hehehehe…. Tony S thinks we should get rid of all nuclear reactors because…wait for it….. It TOOK HIM HALF AN HOUR TO GET HOME!!!
HALF AN HOUR, PEOPLE!!! Plus there was water in the streets and everything!!!
God save us all.
Tony S: please please please go live for a year in a third world country and then come back and tell us about what you think about Nuclear Power. It’d be most illuminating.
And 13-year old girls being used to scare us about AGW.
http://ilovecarbondioxide.com/2009/09/god-bless-vaclav-klaus-shut-up-kids.html
Interesting article, this, on UN propaganda.
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And the moral of the Greenpeace scare-film? Abandon all technology and return to the Stone Age, because someone might attack you. Where is my animal-hide cloak and flint knife?
Hmm. Would not ‘defence’ be a better strategy? And is not the best method of defence to attack?
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Tony Quote:
Less then two weeks after switch on they had an emergency shutdown. I was currently shopping and the lights went briefly out in the supermarket where I was. I need half an hour to get home (for a five minute ride), because a quarter of the traffic lights switch off. A couple of power mains ruptured and flooded streets due to pumps stopping and starting again. Oh, what fun it was.
Endquote.
Thank you. A very good illustration of why we do NOT need windelecs. These would give you a power cut a week.
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Take a look at:
http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/personnel/RJBaker/Publications/346-Growing%20up%20with%20Chernobyl-Chesser%20and%20Baker-2006.pdf
Growing Up with Chernobyl
Working in a radioactive zone, two scientists learn tough lessons
about politics, bias and the challenges of doing good science
Ronald K. Chesser and Robert J. Baker
Great read.
“TonyS (15:40:36) :
I need half an hour to get home (for a five minute ride), because a quarter of the traffic lights switch off. A couple of power mains ruptured and flooded streets due to pumps stopping and starting again. Oh, what fun it was.”
Yeah, as another poster suggested, go visit a third world country to get a dose of reality (And where Al Gore, the IPCC and the other AGW supporters are taking us).
The Germans just said this weekend, that they don’t want such fools governing their country and voted for pro-nuclear CDU/CSU and FDP.
Well done.
Strewth! I’ve just watched the video, I am speachless.
The Germans just said this weekend that they don’t want such fools governing their country and voted for the pro-nuclear CDU/CSU and FDP.
Well done.
Let’s face it – a group that would have you believe that electricity from a nuclear power station makes your lightbulbs radioactive would only ever accept one result from the plane-crashing-into-reactor-vessel-test!
It seems a campaign sponsored by russian Gazprom. The price of naivete.
The powerplant blew up because it had one radioactive drum left outside? C’mon! Everyone knows that only causes zombies!
I heard PETA had a new game where you get to abuse puppies I’ll be over there for a while. 😉
Thanks for the video, my teenage son thought it was funny. There are similar ones of test spent fuel transport canisters. They put rockets on a locomotive and crash it into the transport canisters. What fun, how do you find those jobs?
Hmmm – I’m not normally one to slap labels on people, but it seems to me that ALL those who call themselves “progressives” are actually “regressives”.
I work in a nuclear facility. As everyone else who has ever dealt with nuclear facilities can confirm, we emit LESS radioactivity than some non-nuclear businesses, and are less exposed than many non-nuclear workers… mostly because we are hyper-aware of what we work with and are constantly testing and monitoring radiation.
As I type this I have a geiger counter at my desk, and the needle is sitting at zero. When I took this same device over to a friend’s place, a house built in the 1910s, I found measurable radiation levels in his basement. And a trip over to a coal facility was almost scary for a few minutes.
Too bad so many people are blissfully unaware of “background radiation”, and where it comes from… they might wake up to reality. I won’t, however, hold my breath.
ITER is not a fusion power prototype, and it will be a long time before they’re even ready to fire it up. Before then, we’ll know if IEC confinement is viable for power reactors.
US Government power subsidies for 2007, by energy source.
Levelized Cost of New Electricity Generating Technologies
Capital cost comparison: nuclear vs solar PV
Wind power and carbon emissions
Kit P – I was bemused when some state legislators suggested protecting nuclear fuel casks inside buildings, rather than sitting on flat concrete pads as they do now. They quickly shut up. I assume someone explained to them that if they are hit by something they’ll just roll around unbroken, unless there’s something like a building support column to help damage them.
A bit more alarmism
“Environmentalists have raised concerns that another giant dust storm blowing its way across eastern Australia may contain radioactive particles.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8277924.stm
“It is argued that sediment whipped up from Australia’s centre may be laced with material from a uranium mine”
Ron de Haan
Thanks for the post, very good links.
Okay, here is the issue. Solar and wind CANNOT satisfy energy demands without devastating Eco-Systems. So I have either Fossil Fuels, Fission, or Fusion… One they complain about CO2… One they say will cause a nuclear holocaust… One is not really working… Hmmmm…
Sewage Treatment without power (23:54:26) :
Patrick Davis (00:04:20) :
I think Kirk W. Hanneman’s (19:26:29) comment about sewage treatment in Washington, DC was more about legislation than sanitation.
Norm at 14:35: Norm, please do take your particular form of insanity somewhere else. Since you blew yourself up in the NLA trial in 1994, you’ve had no credibility on this or any other nuclear issue.
John Klug (18:48:57) :
“I believe nuclear power is essentially subsidized by governments worldwide, both through insurance and fuel disposal in the US.”
ALL forms of energy and electrical energy are subsidized in one form or another.
A search of http://www.eia.doe.gov for ‘energy subsidies’ yields in $ per MWh:
Natural Gas – $0.25
Coal – $0.44
Fission – $1.59
Wind – $23.37
Solar – $24.34
“If you really don’t believe in global warming, there is absolutely no reason for the US to build any more nuclear power plants, at least in the 48 states.”
Generally agree with you on this.
The Age of Stupid,
Channel 4 Sept 28th, TV uk, dispatches program, uk MP visiting South sea islands to see climate change suggests sea level rise can be stopped in the short term with sand bags on the beach.
Reminds me of a certain King.
The whole thing’s really simple – the US Government must go totally green, no exceptions, low carbon footprint, Senators and Congresspersons on bikes, President and Cabinet in eCars. No exceptions. No Jumbo Jet Air Force One – electric only. Bert Rutan could do it!
Cut the official carbon footprint to what they tell us we’ll have to have. By the way, while we’re at it, they have to have the same pension plan/health plan we do. No exceptions there either.
I’m betting being green won’t be so very well supported.
Right – totally green. That’s why activists have managed to stop the solar power plant in the Mojave desert. Apparently one is not even allowed to shade a few lizards and snakes. Of course, the activists happily go home and use electricity themselves – presumably they haven’t made the mental connection between power generation and their own lifestyle…
Visiting the local nuclear power plant on a tour, not too long after 9/11, the tour guide pointed out that having an aircraft crash into the containment building was one of the scenarios taken into account when the building was designed.