NYC may miss 90°F for second time in history

More from the “weather is not climate” department. While our economy cools, so do apparently our cities. Cincinnati has a similar problem, and does Traverse City, and the cool weather doesn’t “play in Peoria“.

Taken by themselves it doesn’t mean much, but it is interesting.

http://newyorkfun.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/central-park-picture.jpg
NYC's Central Park

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CTZ005>012-NJZ002>006-011-NYZ067>081-251000-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY

444 AM EDT FRI JUL 24 2009

…UNUSUALLY COOL JULY FOR CENTRAL PARK…

FOR SOME PERSPECTIVE…HERE ARE THE TOP TEN COOLEST JULYS ON RECORD

SINCE 1869 FOR CENTRAL PARK IN NEW YORK CITY:

COOLEST

AVG. TEMP. YEAR

70.7     1888

71.9     1884

72.1     1914

72.3     2000/1871

72.4     1891

72.6     1895

72.8     1902/1869

72.9     1956

73.1     1890

73.2     2001

DUE TO THE UNUSUALLY COOL CONDITIONS THUS FAR IN JULY…HERE ARE

SOME INTERESTING FACTS TO NOTE…

WITH AN AVERAGE DAILY TEMPERATURE OF 71.6…CURRENTLY RUNNING 4.7

DEGREES BELOW NORMAL…THIS JULY IS ON TRACK FOR THE 2ND COOLEST

ON RECORD. BELOW AVERAGE TEMPERATURES HAVE OCCURRED ON 21 OUT OF

23 DAYS…WITH THE OTHER TWO DAYS BEING NORMAL. THERE HAVE BEEN

ZERO ABOVE NORMAL DAYS.

CENTRAL PARK HAS ONLY REACHED 85 DEGREES ONCE THIS MONTH…ON THE

17TH…AND HAS NOT YET REACHED 90 DEGREES THIS SUMMER. IF THIS

CONTINUES THROUGH THE END OF THE MONTH…IT WILL ONLY BE THE

SECOND TIME SINCE 1869 THAT 90 DEGREES WAS NOT REACHED IN JUNE OR

JULY. THE ONLY OTHER TIME THIS OCCURRED WAS 1996.

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Sandy
July 25, 2009 1:00 pm

“While the AGW/CO2 hypothesis has not been completely overturned (there still remains some parts that have a basis in reality)”
Not for much longer.

novoburgo
July 25, 2009 1:05 pm

Eastern Maine is having a similar very cool Summer. June was -3.5F off the “norm” and as of today, July has been running -5.1F with precip on 14 of 24 days. While it looks as though we will modify slightly for the final week, we are definitely in contention to beat out 2000’s -3.9 anomaly. This isn’t the “change” I was looking for.

Brian D
July 25, 2009 1:07 pm

Definitely cool here in the Upper Midwest/Lakes region. Departures running 3 to as much as 8 degrees below normal.
http://www.hprcc.unl.edu/products/maps/acis/MonthTDeptUS.png

Douglas H. Wood
July 25, 2009 1:13 pm

Sandy (13:00:09) :
Not for much longer.

You obviously have not digested the part of my earlier post in which I point out that ignoring facts which disagree with your hypothesis is not science. Please read it again.

Adam from Kansas
July 25, 2009 1:19 pm

About the ice there is the plausible scenario that the wind is compacting it, but what do the latest ice animations look like, is the ice compacting like crazy or is it being blown out of the Arctic?

Sandy
July 25, 2009 1:36 pm

“Not for much longer.
You obviously have not digested the part of my earlier post in which I point out that ignoring facts which disagree with your hypothesis is not science. Please read it again.”
I don’t ignore them, I evaluate them. When every ‘fact’ is supported by arrogance and no data they become suspect. As the warmist ‘facts’ become more and more transparent lies in the light of real world weather it becomes easier to pull apart each separate step of warmist logic. It is a tedious task and would be boring were it not for the billions of silly socialist taxes associated with it.
If you really were a scientist yourself you would capable of the critical thinking required to understand and dismiss the alarmist hypothesis.

lulo
July 25, 2009 1:39 pm

Here’s a great opinion piece on the same topic in Toronto, Canada, where they have also been experiencing what may amount to the coldest July in more than 100 years. The opinion piece is by Rex Murphy and is in the Globe and Mail:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/so-wheres-that-global-cooling-alert/article1230773/

Arthur Glass
July 25, 2009 1:43 pm

What is of interest to this heat-hating weather-weenie is how often this summer computer-generated predictions of afternoon high temps, even from twelve hours out, have fallen significantly short at EWR (Newark Airport). Again today, the high of 88 predicted only this morning, will, unless there is a sudden jump, fall four degrees short. The reading at 1600 was 82F, down two degrees from 1500.
This may very well turn out to be the coolest summer in the eastern U.S. since 1992, the ‘Pinitubo summer’. Perhaps this will be known as the ‘Sarychev summer’.
Bought a new AC, haven’t used it once.
Keep on rockin’, negative AO!

esin
July 25, 2009 1:48 pm

@Douglas H. Wood
How refreshing, thank you,,, exactly why we’re all here, isn’t it; Well said~

July 25, 2009 1:49 pm

Seventh straight months of below normals here in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. And July is shaping up the same. We haven’t hit 30C yet, and that is unusual.
“As of July 19th, the mean monthly temperature in Winnipeg was 15.8C, putting it on pace for one of the coolest July’s on record in the city since records began in 1872” http://robsobsblog.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

Kum Dollison
July 25, 2009 1:50 pm

Old men used to sit around the “cracker barrel,” and talk about the weather.
Now, Old Men, and Women, go to weather/climate blogs, and “talk about the weather.” I’m an “Old Man,” and I enjoy it.
However, if the government is going to spend a lot of money on it, it seems like someone should do a little research (other than promoting, or, on the other hand, ridiculing “Climate Models.”)
The Warmeners exalt the “accuracy” of their models of CO2 forcing. Deniers ridicule the models as, “not, possibly, being correct.
But, NO ONE does a simple experiment to ascertain the truth. It’s like both sides are afraid to know the truth. Back in the country we’d say, “One’s scared, and the other’s glad of it.”
This way the fame, and fortune flows to all participants.
First, you build two greenhouses . . . . .

John Peter
July 25, 2009 1:53 pm

Mary Hinge (12:56:13) wrote:
“My job for 25 years was to report on interesting and odd weather events. The media trumpets warm records, so I’m providing some balance. I’ll continue to do that here despite your whining.- Anthony Watts
So I assume you will have a dedicated post to the highest recorded lower atmospheric temperatures? Now that is interesting so what’s up with that. http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps
Her link shows Error! so you need to click on this link:
http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/
and then fill in a couple of details to arrive at the graph showing that average surface temperature 23 July was .85F higher than last year. This is only one day out of 365 but the graph does show that average global temperatures have been above last year since mid June and in fact most of the year. So is this heat released from the oceans making its way up or what? Should be lower than last year with a quiet sun?
REPLY: We covered daily AMSU record high temps earlier this month, perhaps you missed it. – Anthony

persiflage
July 25, 2009 1:53 pm

I live in the northeast (New Jersey) and Just got my utility bill for the July billing period. The statistics shown on the bill indicate that the average temperature in the utility service area during the last two billing periods (June, July, 2009) were both 5 degrees F cooler than the comparable billing period in 2008. Five degrees seems like a lot, stretched over 60 days, to call it just weather variability – but maybe it just is. We haven’t seen 90 degrees F yet this summer, and that is quite unusual.

Kum Dollison
July 25, 2009 1:56 pm

This young Professor from the University of Illinois got tired of hearing people speculate about the effects of elevated CO2 levels on Food Crops.
HE, actually, decided to do a little Science. Read about it here:
http://soyface.illinois.edu/results/AAAS%202004%20poster%20Leakey.pdf
The Results on Corn, and Soybeans will “knock your socks off.” They were really, really Good.
I Love people that, actually, Do Science.

Kum Dollison
July 25, 2009 1:57 pm

I just wish he’d thought to put some thermometers in those fields.

July 25, 2009 2:02 pm

Being not too far from NYC, I have noted similar temperatures. In Central PA, we were having a string of nights in the 50’s, though in the past week or two we’ve been in the 60’s. Our days have been in the upper 70’s-lower 80’s. It’s made for nice sleeping weather, but it’s been disaster for many of the crops I grow. Tomatoes won’t ripen, corn isn’t sweet, and fungal diseases are rampant. It’s expected to finally (perhaps) warm up this coming week, which would be very good for business.

Allan M
July 25, 2009 2:03 pm

Douglas H Wood
“Some good people have invested a lot of honest effort into the AGW/CO2 study over the past 20 years. Charlatans have seized a political advantage on the backs of these good people. ”
I like what you say, but I fear it may be idealistic.
The charlatans are better at the politics than the good guys, and they are intent on stopping the honest from being heard; we have an uphill task.
Scientists are just human. Most are honest and dedicated to the method; but some have agendas and ideologies, some can be bought, a few are malign.
This business has been about politics from the start:
“No matter if the science is all phoney, there are collateral environmental benefits…. climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.”
Christine Stewart
Canadian Environment Minister
Calgary Herald
14 Dec 1998
“A climate change response must have at its heart a redistribution of wealth and resources”
Emma Brindal
Friends of the Earth
Bali
2007-12
“The answer to global warming is in the abolition of private property and production for human need. A socialist world would place an enormous priority on alternative energy sources. This is what ecologically-minded socialists have been exploring for quite some time now.”
Louis Proyect
Columbia University
“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”
Maurice Strong
Head of the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro
“Self-evidently, dangerous climate change will not emerge from a normal scientific process of truth seeking.”
Mike Hulme
University of East Anglia
The Guardian
2007-03-14
and also the most stunning hubris:
“The coming week in The Hague may prove to be one of the most important in the three-and-a-half-billion year history of life on earth.”
Tony Juniper
Friends of the Earth
19 Nov 2000
(Tony clearly fails to understand that his part in the history of life on Earth is one of breathtaking insignificance)

H.R.
July 25, 2009 2:05 pm

@Mary Hinge (12:56:13) :
“[…] the highest recorded lower atmospheric temperatures? Now that is interesting so what’s up with that. http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps.”
Yup. That is interesting, at least to me. I’m bummed out, though. Your link doesn’t seem to work properly. I got to the site but got only bupkiss for information. WWW? (What Went Wrong?)

Louis Hissink
July 25, 2009 2:08 pm

Folks,
right now I am in Northern Territory Gulf country, Borroloola, approx 16S, 132E, and I am shivering my butt off at 0630 hours (1/2 ahour before sunrise). This is supposed to be the near tropics, and it’s a stone throw away from the ocean, but it’s this cold at this time of the year?
So those of you feeling the cold in the northern hemisphere right now, take heart, we are also feeling down-under.

henry
July 25, 2009 2:19 pm

marek (09:59:12) asked:
“However, at what point does the weather become a climate?”
As was stated, normally about 30 years.
Or in the case of Climate Scientists, whever a new hottest record is set. Then, that one month/year/decade is representative of AGW (or climate change, whichever) and warns us of certain disaster.
New coolest records, well, that’s just weather…

Steven Hill
July 25, 2009 2:35 pm

I live 50 miles from Cincy…..been telling you guys it’s the coolest July in history here in Ky. No 90’s at all this July, that’s a record as well.

Fred from Canuckistan . . .
July 25, 2009 2:50 pm

“During the 80’s and 90’s when warming was correlating well with temperature”
equates well with:
“During the 90’s and 00’s when Al Gore was correlating well with hypocrisy and political vanity”

rbateman
July 25, 2009 3:08 pm

While the Eastern US is experiencing a lack of summer, and the west currently has one, there is the gnawing lack of records being broken out here.
2 weeks of high pressure over the 4 corners area and we should be busting the chops of alltime highs. Summer was late here.
Forecast is for a big cooldown in about a week.
Very long range is for even more cooling and rains in Sept.
Hope the crops make it.

rbateman
July 25, 2009 3:15 pm

Kum Dollison (13:50:54) :
I do the best experiment money can buy: Talk to folks. All my relatives and inlaws scattered about the country. People have been talking about the weather since time immemorial. Only 2 stories come back: Either summer was late or never made it.