More news from the weather is not climate department. A historic winter storm event in South America is underway (July 22nd, 2009) meanwhile in the northern hemisphere, fresh snow in the Alps in July. – Anthony
Guest Post By Alexandre Aguiar / MetSul Weather Center
A major and historic winter storm is underway at this Wednesday morning in Argentina. Snow is falling in many parts of the country and in many areas not used to winter precipitation. Local news reports indicate snow already have been observed in the provinces of Mendoza, San Luis, San Juan, Cordoba, La Pampa and Buenos Aires.
In Bahia Blanca, a coastal city in the Southern part of the Buenos Aires, the snow storm is heavy and local authorities describe it as the worst snow event in 50 years. Roads are already blocked by snow and ice in the regional. TN news channel reports some areas of the Sierra de La Ventana could pick up even 3 feet of snow, unimaginable to the region.
Early this Wednesday afternoon, satellite pictures were showing a band of clouds advancing to the North and snow precipitation could no be ruled out in the capital Buenos Aires. In July 9th and 10th 2007 it snowed in the city of Buenos Aires for the first time in 89 years and it could snow again just two years later. Snow was also reported in the capital of Chile Santiago. MetSul Weather Center is not ruling out snow also in Uruguay.
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Here is one place to see where it has been hot or cold of late:
http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/map/images/rnl/sfctmpmer_30b.rnl.html
Menu of all options:
http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/map/
AlexB (14:54:26) :
So? Haven’t you ever heard the phrase ‘it’s too cold to snow’. Must have been too cold to snow in previous winters. 😛
What has happened is that, in the last few days there has been more humidity which with low temps=snow.
One of the problems that I observe in making country wide comparisons of the current climate and the possibility of a cooling in the future in United States is that there are many diverse climate conditions here. NCDC has divided US into 9 regions .The average annual temperatures for these regions range from 63 F to 43 F and the winter temperatures range from 47 F to 17 F. One can divide the country down the middle horizontally. The annual temperature went down for all the individual regions in 2008 and the annual temperature for the entire Contiguous US has gone down a total 2 degrees F during the last two years and is now at the average temperature level for the last 100 years for the country as a whole [no global warming?]. The winter temperature for 2009 for Contiguous US went up by about 0.37degrees F having dropped about 3.49 F degrees since 2000 It is just slightly [0.71 F] above the average for the winter of 2009.
When it comes to winter temperatures there is a different picture regionally. The winter temperatures for most of southern regions have gone up for the lasts 1-2 years and are above normal. The winter temperatures for most of the northern regions have gone down for the last 3-4 years and are below normal. I note that the winter temperature for EAST NORTH CENTRAL alone has dropped an amazing 11.9 degrees F since 1998. So while the northern regions already feel the cooling happening especially during the past 3-4 winters, the southern regions are still above normal with warming winter temperatures still. So mixed messages about cool and warm weather in different parts of US will continue for a while. . http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/cag3/cag3.html
Adam, this is the map I was going by:
http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/climo&hot.html
EIther there is some error or it appears that it is 4-5 degree positive SST anomaly around the remaining Arctic ice. If that is true it could lead to a new record low summer extent. I don’t want that to happen, and certainly don’t think it is indicative of the entire global climate or the direction of global temperatures. Also, the El Nino has left a pretty nasty record breaking spike on UAH channel 5 potentially making July 2009 the hottest month overall-ever.
http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps+002
If the alarmists get either, or both, of those pieces of propaganda the momentum to sell out the public will be almost unstoppable.
Apparently, there are a lot of places to go skiing.
http://www.ifyouski.com/news/newsarticle/?ObjectID=8790516
More details if you follow the link.
Saas Fee would be sweet. I wish I had the time and $$$ to go there right now.
Columbus Dispatch, Columbus, Ohio Thursday July 23, 2009
“Second coolest July on record? Columbus is on track to have its second-coolest July on record, according to the National Weather Service.”
“The city’s coldest July on record, 1891,….”
From the business section (same date)
“Cold weather put chill on Ohio’s peach crop.”
“We haven’t had a full crop in four years.”
Bahia Blanca
The beach truly is white, with snow!!
No sunspots, more cosmic ray bombardment, increased humidity and, in the southern hemisphere winter, this equates to snow.
This northern hemisphere winter will have all the tongues wagging as we continue our slide into a deep minima.
Ryan P: Those red regions have been there late into the melt season for the last few years at least and I would think in many of the other years, and yet for last year that didn’t equal record melt, there’s also the infamous Bering Sea hotspot which other SST data sources show it doesn’t neccesarily exist.
Urederra (17:17:54) : * Canada’s summer ski season ends this weekend.
Will it be a year without a summer in Canada?
Too bad there isn’t 79 billion put in to studying further Svensmarks finding instead of it having been put in to global warming like was done by the Obama Administration!! I think we would suddenly find cosmic ray believers, even a cosmic ray ‘consensus’, if it was!
@ur momisugly Ryan P
Ryan P wrote:
“EIther there is some error or it appears that it is 4-5 degree positive SST anomaly around the remaining Arctic ice. If that is true it could lead to a new record low summer extent. I don’t want that to happen, and certainly don’t think it is indicative of the entire global climate or the direction of global temperatures. Also, the El Nino has left a pretty nasty record breaking spike on UAH channel 5 potentially making July 2009 the hottest month overall-ever.
http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps+002
If the alarmists get either, or both, of those pieces of propaganda the momentum to sell out the public will be almost unstoppable.”
Wouldn’t a record low Arctic sea ice extent or monthly global temperature records sway you a bit more towards the theory of man-made global warming? I don’t know if there will be a record low sea ice extent in the Arctic, but one can hardly call what is happening up there natural variability, can one? If only for the speed at which it is occurring.
Anyway, too soon to tell now. But what you call propaganda are to me actually quite convincing indicators of global warming continuing. On the other hand, if an El Nino develops and 2010 doesn’t come in the top 3 of hottest years globally, I will be swayed more to the skeptical side. We’ll just have to see, I guess.
Wade (12:39:12) :
“Here in North Carolina, the past week and half has been unusually cool….”
You are not imagining the cooler weather here in North Carolina. May was much cooler (no 98 degree weather like we had in 2004) and we are not getting the above 95 degree weather we usually do here in the middle of the state. So far we have not had ANY above 95 degree weather while in 2004 we had 3 days at 98 by the end of May.
The really strange thing is my sheep lambed two months early! I got lambs last November instead of in January. Now I am getting a second set of lambs, my fifth in two weeks was born yesterday! Goat bucks and rams come into a seasonal “rut” just like a deer buck. If it is too hot they are sterile, so I have independent validation of cooler temperatures last summer.
Also last year at the end of July my horses started to grow winter coats!!! It will be interesting to see if I get winter coats early again this year
Neven:
C’mon, Nevin, you’re smarter than that. Of course it’s natural variability, in this case, in the Arctic region. Polar sea ice is primarily a function of wind and ocean currents.
But we’re talking about global warming here. Let’s look at what’s going on at the other end of the planet: click & click & click & click
Global sea ice continues to increase [see top chart of global ice in the 3rd click above] because the Antarctic ice is growing faster than the Arctic ice is declining.
Where’s the global warming?
I wish I could say that it was only 2 to 4 degrees below normal in Toronto. It has been 5 to 10 degrees C below normal all year. I do not see that trend line getting even close to normals all through August on my Weather Network. It is cold, dark and rainy, just disgusting weather. I don’t think that having the heat on July 23rd is normal. I thought last summer was bad. Last summer I got the heat off for a month. This summer it does not look like that is going to happen. As nasty as this is for us, this is the third summer in a row that crop yields will be below normal. That situation cannot continue forever. We will see an exodus of people from the north when the US and Canadian cap and trade bills go into effect. We cannot afford to stay here and heat our homes for 12 months. I guess I am lucky, I have somewhere else to go.
Neven (17:47:43) :
“I don’t know if there will be a record low sea ice extent in the Arctic, but one can hardly call what is happening up there natural variability, can one? If only for the speed at which it is occurring.”
Neven, get a grip. The truth of the matter is that we don’t know what constitutes “natural variability”. Neither you nor I have a clue as to whether or not we “…can hardly call what is happening up there natural variability…” but I am not inclined to jump to the conclusion that a .0001% concentration change in a trace gas is going to cause global catastrophe.
This blog has been accumulating anecdotal evidence of cooler than normal temperatures this summer…. I know Southern New England has been abnormally cool, and yet June is depicted as the hottest June on record. I’m more inclined to question the data than switch to believing in AGW…. especially when it is being promoted by misanthropic Club of Rome neo-Malthusians.
cyr (14:16:00) :
“The locust trees changing here in western NC are usually one of the first signs that ’summer is almost done’”-My black locust and others are doing the same thing.
The darn thing just leafed out in mid-may-late.
NE Oregon,LaGrande,USDA z5a-heading for z4.We had our first warmist surface in our local paper in some months-a little summer and they number like hair off a shedding springer-one of which now wants a walkie….
I’m sure the equivalent of NOAA in Argentina (like the Departmento Meterologico Argentinas) has all of BA in bright Red at least 6-8 degrees above normal. Dios mio, que calor!
75 and rain in NY today. 2nd coldest July on record so far. Cold tonight in So New England, had to all wear jackets outside.
Anybody noticed also – no named tropical storms or hurricanes through today? Wasn’t supposed to be a Katrina per week??????
Thank goodness we’re all going to get taxed out of our minds to fix this out of control climate problem.
The wind driven low Arctic sea ice level in 2007 exposed an extra 2 million square km of Arctic water to the cooling effect of bitter Arctic winter conditions, not for just one winter but for 2008 as well. 2009 will probably be not far off from 2008.
Since It takes a lot of time for the semi-permanent portion of the Arctic ice cap to grow, we can expect it to take several more years to expand back to normal.
I have no data to prove it, but I would suspect that the last two years has seen more thermal loss from the Arctic than the 30 year average.
Buffalo set to have its coldest July since records starting being kept from the airport and maybe the third coldest since records kept for the area since about 1881 (or so). But that’s just weather, right?
And that annoying SC23 keeps on showing up. Still has a faint spot showing, but don’t see any notation for it from SWPC, though Catania did catch it early this morning.
Anthony, in relation to DJ.
You will never get an unbiased solicitation out of the Australian B.O.M. or C.S.I.R.O.
Both organizations are full of agenda driven “scientific” staff.
Mark Hugoson (10:10:14) :…….
LOL…. I laughed so hard, I fell off my chair…. You have distilled the essence of the absurd sir…. I commend you.
>BTW readers, as far as I can tell, “blugrue” is simply “Flanagan” repackaged.
Flanagan and I may have in common, that we post replies that go against the majority opinion on this blog, but that’s it. It’s two persons you are dealing with.
At the time I posted the blog post had less info to go by and referred to Portuguese language coverage (which I don’t speak) that amongst others mentioned 2007. I also called up weather.com and others (and no, I do not always post all searching that I have done) and found nothing that indicated the snowfalls. I told you, Anthony, why I asked. If all you can see in that is snark so be it.
There appears to be a correlation between snow fall outside Britain and the height of carbon taxes in Britain.
So, now you know what causes it. Nothing to do with Global Cooling!