Hansen's at it again

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Dr. Jim Hansen gets ready to deliver his message at the Washington DC power plant protest on March 2nd 2009. On February 22nd, WUWT covered Hansen’s announcement that he was endorsing civil disobedience.

No longer content to be a scientist, and apparently now a full time protesting advocate, Dr. James Hansen of the NASA Goddard Institute of Space Studies joins forces with deep thinker Darryl Hannah.

From commondreams.org

Following this protest, on June 23rd leading climate scientist, Dr. James Hansen, actress Daryl Hannah, Michael Brune, the Executive Director of Rainforest Action Network, and former Representative Hechler will join Coal River Valley residents in a second round of protests in West Virginia.

Your tax dollars at work. I’ve said it before, and I’ll keep saying it: FIRE THIS GUY.

Oh there will be those who say “but he’s doing it as a private citizen”.

I preemptively call BS on that.

Why? Well it’s because the U.S. Taxpayer has been an “enabler” for this. Hansen wouldn’t be there if not for the publicly funded work via NASA.

As a private citizen, his opinion is worth nearly nothing. As head of NASA GISS fancifully acting as a private citizen, his opinion and presence are worth boatloads of publicity.

You can’t separate GISS from his persona any more than you can expect Barack Obama to show up someplace “as a private citizen” and endorse something while he holds office.

The premise is absurd.

AMS, ask for the Rossby medal back too. This isn’t science, its advocacy. Gavin, take note since Gavin once labled me as an advocate over on RC, but I haven’t showed up at any protests like Jimbo has.

At least he’s not going to WV unchallenged:

From the Charleston Gazette:

Massey Energy President Don Blankenship has challenged one of the world’s top climate scientists to a debate on global warming.

Blankenship’s announcement came this afternoon, after word came out that renowned NASA scientist James Hansen would be attending an anti-mountaintop removal protest next week in Southern West Virginia.

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Vinny

Gee, I wonder who he voted for, can anyone say “Community Organizer”.

I just complained a bit about Hansen, I think Mann is of the same cloth. Derryl Hannah could talk me into about anything though – as long as she didn’t say it too often.
I’ve started a small project to clean up my work on wrecking the Mann08 hockey stick using better documented turnkey R code and short explanations to make it as easy to understand as possible.
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/06/20/hockey-stick-cps-revisited-part-1/

Karl

I didn’t renew my membership to the AMS after the Rossby Medal was awarded to Hansen.

Leon Brozyna

Well shut my mouth – and I think I will before I get snipped for letting lose with a tirade against that Jimbo. Charlie Brown said it best…
Good grief!

Tom

I love the drab olive color outfit Hansen is wearing. He looks like a character from the Seinfold epsidode where Elaine dates a communist (Ned) and later is blacklisted. Maybe Mr. Hansen could find a new job at Hop Sing’s as a delivery boy.

MattN

If you work for the US government, you are 24/7/365 representing the US Government wherever you go and whatever you do. There is no “private citizen” crap…

KW

I haven’t renewed mine since 2005. But something tells me the AMS would support Hanson.

Ron de Haan

We simply should not accept climate alarmism and bad data from US Government Agencies.
We are conned with our own tax money.
NO TAXES OR EMISSION RESTRICTIONS ON CO2, THE GAS OF LIFE

Phil Nizialek

I’ve said this before when Anthony advocates firing Hansen; to do so will just turn him into a martyr of the AGW movement, and result in a big media splash sympathetic to his cause. The guy’s already received a huge amount of fawning press coverage by falsely claiming the Bush administration “muzzeled” him and his views at the behest of big oil. Just imagine how long he’ll claim the pulpit and the press if he gets fired.
I understand Anthony’s anger that this charlatan gets away with this stuff, but I think in the long term, as the climate demonstrates the the vacuousness
of the science at the heart of AGW theory, Hansen will be far more discredited and forgotten then if he’s fired.
One other consideration. Most people at NASA think Hansen is correct in his AGW views. The Obama administration has taken the AGW bait, hook, line and sinker. These people think Hansen’s public demonstrations are good things. It’s unrealistic to expect that he will be fired.

David Ball

Anthony, you are an advocate, …. for the TRUTH.

Mark T

Phil Nizialek (08:54:20) :
The Obama administration has taken the AGW bait, hook, line and sinker.

Realistically, Obama doesn’t care. This is about power and money to him. It doesn’t matter if the science is right, it is merely an excuse the control the energy consumption of the US.
Mark

P Walker

I wonder how many of these protesters will be actual “residents” of the Coal River Valley . Mt experience while growing up near coal producing areas was that , while not always supporting coal operators , the residents supported coal mining . It was , and still is the main form of employment .

Phil Nizialek

Mark T (09:04:02)
Realistically, Obama doesn’t care. This is about power and money to him. It doesn’t matter if the science is right, it is merely an excuse the control the energy consumption of the US
Mark, I don’t disagree with you. vis a vis Hansen, though, the administration doesn’t want to be seen as firing a strong proponent of the theory that will get them the power they seek.

You cannot fire Hansen, as has been stated he would become a matyr and he would play that up to the living end now that he has free time. During the Kerry-Bush election, he claimed Bush was trying to silence him. It was an outright lie. Bush told him to do his job and stop making private speeches on government time. If you fire him or tell him to do his job, he will just claim you are trying to silence him and will be very vocal about it.

rbateman

Catastrophic Fire & Ice isn’t the only thing Hansen et al are playing with.
They are gambling on getting thier agenda in place quick enough and entrenched enough to insulate them from the Pitchforks that will follow. It will all go bad as deep cooling sets in at the same time masses of banner wavers abandon the false cause.
That’s the point it gets ugly.
It always does.

Another thing (which I wanted in a separate post) is that these [alarmists] do not take into account the economic impact of getting off coal. Appalachia is poor, coal mining and tourism is all they have. Why does none of the hardcore environmentalists think about the human impact? They care more for a tree than a human, and that is not right. “Sorry you had to starve because you couldn’t find work. But hey, we reduced the CO2 in the atmosphere from 330 parts per million to 329 parts per million!”

PaulH

Your tax dollars at work. I’ve said it before, and I’ll keep saying it: FIRE THIS GUY.
Fire. Them. All.

Barry

It doesn’t matter if firing Hansen would make a martyr out of the man. He is employed by my tax dollars. As his employer I want him fired for the antics. I don’t want to pay him one more red cent so that he can abuse his power to pose a threat to national security.
If he wants to be an activist let him hang up his hat as the head of the NASA’s Institute for Space Studies. Then he can truly claim to be attending as a “private citizen.”
What do we have to do to get him fired for abuse of power?
REPLY: Letters, lots of them, phone calls, and email.

Just Want Results...

The truth is, if Darryl Hannah cared about people she would do everything she could to have more coal power plants built so that electricity bills would be lower. She also would do everything she could to have all the drilling in ANWaR done as is humanly possible so gas prices would be lower.
But she has been rich for so many years she is out of touch with the difficulties average people face. She wouldn’t suffer from higher energy costs so it’s easy for her to be an ‘activist’. She is taken in by “the deceitfulness of riches”.

So, if this was a “private citizen” trip/protest/publicity-appearance, how do we verify Hansen actually used his own money and did NOT charge his NASA GISS expense account for travel, food, per diem and expenses, or arrangements and lodging?
REPLY: It is not about expense accounts or paid time (though if he is charging NASA for this rubbish that would indeed be a cause for termination) it is about the fact that public funding has enabled him to get to this point and participate as a “NASA expert on climate” – Anthony

khufy

But what about Spencer and Christy doing interviews and advocating the skeptic side of things? I don’t find anything wrong with scientists being advocates for action based on their work.
REPLY: Appearances and articles, and interviews are one thing. I ahve no problems with those as they are within the realms of the job description. Showing up at power plant protests, defending criminals doing vandalism at trial, and endorsing civil disobedience are entirely something else, and Hansen has done all of those things. That is where he crosses the line. – Anthony

astronmr20

Fire this [man]

Joel Shore

Wade said:

During the Kerry-Bush election, he claimed Bush was trying to silence him. It was an outright lie.

I don’t think he claimed that Bush personally tried to silence him. He claimed that people in the NASA Public Affairs office did. And, NASA’s Inspector General agreed with him. Here is what the report (http://oig.nasa.gov/investigations/OI_STI_Summary.pdf) found:

Our investigation found that during the fall of 2004 through early 2006, the NASA Headquarters Office of Public Affairs managed the topic of climate change in a manner that reduced, marginalized, or mischaracterized climate change science made available to the general public through those particular media over which the Office of Public Affairs had control (i.e., news releases and media access).

Further, it is our conclusion that the NASA Headquarters Office of Public Affairs’ actions were inconsistent with the mandate and intent of NASA’s controlling legislation—the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 19581 (Space Act) and NASA’s implementing regulations—insomuch as they prevented “the widest practicable and appropriate dissemination” of information concerning NASA’s activities and results. While we could not substantiate that Administration officials employed outside NASA approved or disapproved or edited specific news releases, we do, however, find by a preponderance of the evidence2 that the claims of inappropriate political interference made by the climate change scientists and career Public Affairs Officers were more persuasive than the arguments of the senior Public Affairs officials that their actions were due to the volume and poor quality of the draft news releases.

Regarding media access, our investigation confirmed that, contrary to its established procedures, the NASA Headquarters Office of Public Affairs declined to make one of NASA’s scientists, Dr. James E. Hansen, available for a radio interview with National Public Radio in December 2005.

The report says there is no evidence that these actions originated at top levels of the Bush Administration or the NASA organization but were rather the result of overzealous political appointees in the NASA Public Affairs Office.

Hi Anthony, I agree with Phil. Let Hansen keep his job. He can join rallies too as long as he wants. The tide of scientific evidence, even anecdotal evidences like delayed planting due to heavy snow in June, is going against AGW. Let him become more defensive and later self-destruct.
Btway, there is huge money in AGW. Money involved in carbon trading in 2007 was around $63B, rose to $120 in 2008. And that involved the EU and Japan alone. If the US, Australia, China, Brazil, etc. are included, the amount will easily hit $1 trillion/year. And that’s for carbon trading alone among corporations. Excluded there are carbon taxes by both federal and state governments (Obama’s plan for instance is around $93 billion/year on average from 2012 to 2019). Then there are several billion $ subsidies for sola and wind farms, other “renewables”.
Of course the biggest lure of AGW is ecological central planning. HUge political power tripping. Politicians and bureaucrats dictating people what energy sources they can use or not, how much emission they can make without penalty, etc.

Frank K.

Joel Shore (15:01:05) :
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/29/science/earth/29climate.html
Climate Expert Says NASA Tried to Silence Him
By ANDREW C. REVKIN
Published: January 29, 2006
The top climate scientist at NASA says the Bush administration has tried to stop him from speaking out since he gave a lecture last month calling for prompt reductions in emissions of greenhouse gases linked to global warming.

Here is the money quote:
Dr. Hansen said he would ignore the restrictions. “They feel their job is to be this censor of information going out to the public,” he said.

What a great example to his staff – “said he would *** ignore the restrictions ***”. Everyone should take a page from Jim Hansen’s book of professional ethics.
Certainly one of the most unprofessional and irresponsible NASA administrators ever! The epitome of the term loose cannon…
And his software (from GISTEMP and Model E) are horrible examples of poorly written and poorly documented junk code…

Joel Shore

Frank K. – Considering the fact that the NASA Inspector General found that the restrictions were “inconsistent with the mandate and intent of NASA’s controlling legislation” and were the result of overzealous political appointees in the public affairs office, I don’t see what is wrong with Hansen choosing to ignore them.
I suggest that you read the Inspector General’s report.

Frank K.

Joel Shore (18:09:23) :
“…I don’t see what is wrong with Hansen choosing to ignore them.”
I do. The inspector general’s report was not in force during the time Hansen chose to ignore the restrictions. Apparently, Joel, you must believe that government employees can do whatever they want, and that there is not authority to which they are bound. That is a great ethics lesson for all…I wonder how things would go if the US military operated like this…
If Hansen didn’t like the restrictions he could have (1) quit his job and worked in the private sector (or for himself), or (2) filed a complaint and waited for the outcome.
Do you work Joel? If you do, do you feel you can “choose to ignore your boss”?

Boris

“I’ve said it before, and I’ll keep saying it: FIRE THIS GUY.”
Meh…we’ve heard your whining. Nobody who isn’t delusional cares.
REPLY: Meh…You seemed to care enough to comment 😉 A

George M

Quite frankly, given the increasing incidence of NASA SNAFUs, it is time to disestablish them and start over. Anyone else remember CAA becoming FAA, and NACA being transformed into NASA? Bureaucracies, like visiting relatives, have a limited useful lifetime before thay begin to stink, and need to be dispersed.

Pat

“rbateman (09:59:40) :
Catastrophic Fire & Ice isn’t the only thing Hansen et al are playing with.
They are gambling on getting thier agenda in place quick enough and entrenched enough to insulate them from the Pitchforks that will follow. It will all go bad as deep cooling sets in at the same time masses of banner wavers abandon the false cause.
That’s the point it gets ugly.
It always does.”
The problem with this is that various Govn’ts over the last few decades have passed laws which, effectively, remove any power (Pitchforks) poeple had to defend themselves from the state.
Western societies haven’t experinced real poverty, in the post industrial age, the sort of poverty you see on the streets in Addis Ababa (Ethiopia) for instance. Real gut wrenching poverty. It’s on its way, slowly, but surely.

Joel Shore (15:01:05)
Thanks for the link. I’ve downloaded it and will read it when I finally get around to Censoring Science, which is also on my summer reading list. But, ahhh, Joel… the PDF is 93 pages. Couldn’t you at least link to the Cliffnotes version?

pkatt

better out there then talking to congress.

UK Sceptic

Let’s hope the dawning realisation of a cooling climate will chuck the warmistas and political opportunists into the wheelie bin (trashcan) of ignominy once and for all.

UK Sceptic

Hansen looks like he’s on his way to a Secret Squirrel convention…

Michael Spencer

Let me get this straight. The protest action was against another hideous ‘mountain top removal’? Someone tell me why this could ever be a good thing?
Not long ago, I worshipped at his church and thought he was Holy, but have been reading this site, and Anthony and the others have me wondering now about the whole warming thing.
But mountain top removal? Come on, guys, even a clock is right twice a day.

don't tarp me bro

Surface mining of coal is safer than underground mining. Mountain top removalis strange. Kansas has no mountain tops and it does well without mountain tops. Feeds the planet with wheat. Some pagan spiritualists need their “groves” on mountain tops. Sure they will howl.

Joel Shore

Frank K. says:

I do. The inspector general’s report was not in force during the time Hansen chose to ignore the restrictions.

But, what the inspector general’s report said that the restrictions imposed were due to a few rogue political appointees and went against NASA policies. Hansen presumably knew this, which is why he chose to ignore them.
rephelan says:

But, ahhh, Joel… the PDF is 93 pages. Couldn’t you at least link to the Cliffnotes version?

Well, I don’t think you have to read the whole thing word-for-word. (I have to admit that I haven’t.) There’s an executive summary and then, if you want more details on certain aspects, you can then read the appropriate section in the full report.

Pofarmer

So, what do these people think are going to happen when they shut all the coal fired power plants down?

anna v

Pofarmer (07:37:58) :
So, what do these people think are going to happen when they shut all the coal fired power plants down?
see the thread here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/20/historic-parallels-in-our-time-the-killing-of-of-cattle-vs-carbon/
The big Sun/Wind God will come and give plenty of energy to all his children and we shall live happily ever after.

Steven Hill

NASA is now a disgrace by letting this man act in this manner. Sorry, but that’s how I feel about it.

tulbobroke

” Showing up at power plant protests, defending criminals doing vandalism at trial, and endorsing civil disobedience are entirely something else, and Hansen has done all of those things. That is where he crosses the line”
According to the British press Hansen gave expert testimony on the impact of climate change. He made no statement whatsoever at the trial as to how the case should be judged, nor any comment whatsoever on the actions of the Kingsnorth Six. Also, there was no law breaking as the defendants were found not guilty of any crime.
REPLY: “Not guilty of any crime” also applied to O.J. Simpson. If Hansen had not been elevated to status by the funding supplied by the American taxpayer, he would not have been invited. – Anthony

David Walton

It really gets my goat that Hansen draws a salary on the taxpayer’s dime. We deserve better, much better.

Ron de Haan you’ve been inspiring me to do…
“No tax on CO2 – the GAS OF LIFE”
…BUMPER STICKERS for everyone… with these words and with many many more… education and advocacy in unusual ways in unusual times…
Just click on my bumper sticker designs page and upload the designs of your choice to Zazzle (from ICECAP) and pronto! your sticker’s on its way to you. Or email me and I’ll design the ones you want.

Richard1

Frank K. (18:35:28) :
Do you work Joel? If you do, do you feel you can “choose to ignore your boss”?
Simply, Yes. When your boss asks you to contradict your legal mandate or ethical practice. Recall Nixon demanding that Elliot Richardson fire Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox? Richardson refused. Granted Richardson resigned because his boss demanded he contravene the law. Ignoring unethical or unlawful direction from a boss is in fact protected by an entire body of law. In the United States that body of law is enforced by the Office of Special Council. They have broad ranging powers. You might be interested to check them out:
http://www.osc.gov/intro.htm
This does not mean that Hansen’s message is correct. Only his right to voice it.

Don’t you people get it? The seas are going to boil!!!!!!!!!
The only hope for Life Itself is if James and Darryl can commit acts of civil disobedience and get paid to do it. That and ice cubes. If everybody threw a tray of ice cubes into the ocean everyday, then maybe the seas wouldn’t boil away into Outer Space leaving this planet a seared and lifeless rock, as is indicated without a doubt by Jim’s models when they blow up.
Science, people!!! Get with Science!!! Otherwise there will be nothing to water your lawns with.

Frank K.

Richard1 (11:02:35) :
Frank K. (18:35:28) :
Do you work Joel? If you do, do you feel you can “choose to ignore your boss”?
Simply, Yes. When your boss asks you to contradict your legal mandate or ethical practice.
Richard1 – there was NOTHING unethical that the government asked Hansen to do. Can you show me in the report were Hansen was asked to “contradict his legal mandate”? Again, Richardl, you must think you can do whatever you feel you want to do, and justify it any way you please…which ia apprently what passes for “ethics” in our modern society.

Probably someone will slam me for taking Richard Hoagland seriously… but Hoagland is not the only one with doubts, and there are no doubt others who would agree with me… Hoagland has strong evidence-backed words about the whole setup of NASA and it makes me wonder what (if anything) lies behind the head of NASA’s important Goddard institute keeping on with his insane behaviour and getting away with his insane projections. Is Hansen being “allowed” to do his act by someone further in the shadows? Just saying “follow the money” and “taxation” doesn’t satisfy me, though sure it’s a big part of it.

Hunter

“I’ve said it before, and I’ll keep saying it: FIRE THIS GUY”
I’m astonished that such words, from someone of your great power and influence, have so far been ignored by the powers-that-be.

Peter Wells

I have had published several letters to the editor in our local rag, asking the global warming alarmists to answer about a half-dozen perfectly logical questions in order to justify their position. Every question has been ignored. Keep in mind that I live in a town with an established University, the professors of which are all global warming alarmists.
When a bunch of supposedly intelligent and knowledgable global warming alarmists are unable to answer some perfectly reasonable questions, it makes me wonder if they are really as intelligent and knowledgable as they would like to believe.