
WUWT readers will probably remember yesterdays’ story about the malfunctioning temperature sensor at the ASOS station at Honolulu airport next to an asphalt access road. Well guess what? Even though NOAA admits the sensor is in error by as much as 2 degrees, they are going to keep the data and the string of new high temperature records. “BUT” they fixed the recent record rainfall data from the same station. See below. How’s that for science? Fix one broken record due to faulty equipment but leave others?
FROM KITV-TV (hat tip to Becka)
HONOLULU — Honolulu’s run of record heat came to an end Wednesday, but it may not have been any cooler.The weather has been warm most of the month, with highs in the 90s the past nine days.However, between 11 a.m. and noon, the city’s temperature dropped from Wednesday’s high of 89 degrees to 86 degrees, the same hour a new thermometer was installed at Honolulu International Airport.
The old one had been showing a warm bias of a degree or two, officials said. The National Weather Service said that is not significant enough to throw out the data and recent records.
Here is the string of temperature records that have been set from this faulty ASOS station:
RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI
436 PM HST TUE JUN 16 2009
A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 91 DEGREES WAS SET AT HONOLULU HI TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 89 SET IN 2005. $$ HOAG
RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI
431 PM HST MON JUN 15 2009
A HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES AT HONOLULU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TODAY BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 90 SET IN 1982. $$
RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI
627 PM HST SUN JUN 14 2009
A TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES AT HONOLULU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TODAY BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 90 SET IN 2005. $$
RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI
456 PM HST SAT JUN 13 2009
A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES WAS SET AT HONOLULU HI TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 90 SET IN 2005. $$
RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU
525 PM HST FRI JUN 12 2009
A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES WAS SET AT HONOLULU TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 89 SET IN 1993. $$
RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE TIED AT HONOLULU HI
426 PM HST THU JUN 11 2009
A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES WAS TIED AT HONOLULU HI TODAY. THIS TIES THE OLD RECORD OF 92 SET IN 1996. $$
RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI
427 PM HST WED JUN 10 2009
A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES WAS SET AT HONOLULU HI TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 91 SET IN 1982. $$
RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI
430 PM HST TUE JUN 9 2009
A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 91 DEGREES AT HONOLULU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TODAY BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 90 SET IN 2003. $$
RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI
0426 PM HST MON JUN 08 2009
A HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES HONOLULU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TODAY BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 90 SET IN 1997. $$
RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI
428 PM HST FRI JUN 05 2009
A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 91 DEGREES WAS SET AT HONOLULU HI TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 90 SET IN 1997. $$ WATKINS
RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU
445 PM HST TUE JUN 2 2009
A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 91 DEGREES WAS SET AT HONOLULU TODAY. THIS TIES THE OLD RECORD OF 91 SET IN 1996. $$
CORRECTION TO RAINFALL RECORD AT HONOLULU AIRPORT
0915 PM HST THU MAY 28 2009
DUE TO TECHNICAL PROBLEMS…THE HONOLULU AIRPORT OBSERVATION STATED A RECORD RAINFALL OF 0.14 INCHES FOR THURSDAY MAY 28…BUT THIS IS INCORRECT. ONLY 0.02 INCHES FELL AT THE AIRPORT. NO RECORD WAS BROKEN. $$ MORRISON
RECORD DAILY MAXIMUM RAINFALL SET AT HONOLULU HI
445 PM HST THU MAY 28 2009
HONOLULU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT RECORDED RAINFALL OF 0.14 INCHES TODAY BREAKING THE OLD RECORD OF 0.11 SET IN 1963. $$
Let me say it first: THIS IS JUST WRONG.
If they know the error, how can they possibly justify keeping the new maximum records? You can’t get away with this sort of thing in the world of professional sports records, Olympic records, or even the cheesy Guinness Book of Records. Heck they even fix mistakes made on the TV quiz show Jeopardy and dock the contestant’s winnings!
Surely NOAA has more scruples than a TV game show?
If the record can’t be verified because the equipment is faulty, how does that make it a valid record? They can’t, it’s FUBAR!
Here is the contact email links (right off their web page, I’m not outing anymore) for the Meteorologist in Charge and staff at NWS Honolulu. I say we give them an earful.
- James Weyman
- Meteorologist in Charge
- Richard Knabb
- Director of Operations
- Robert Ballard
- Science & Operations Officer
- Ray Tanabe
- Warning Coordination Meteorologist
- Kevin Kodama
- Hydrologist
- Bill Boone
- Electronic System Analyst
- Pam Fujiwara
- Administrative Assistant
Or if you’d like to write:
National Weather Service Forecast Office
2525 Correa Road, Suite 250
Honolulu, HI 96822-2219
Tel: (808) 973-5286
UPDATE:
WUWT reader Leon Brozyna points out the temperature dropped 3 degrees at the time of the sensor change, not 2 as indicated in the original TV story admission by NWS PHNL.
I’ve recovered the hourly data from the ASOS station and that is verified. Note there do not seem to be any other meteorological conditions that occurred at that time (such as increased cloud cover or rain) that could add a cooling trend. With solar insolation still increasing, and the high of the day likely yet to occur ( there was a second peak later) it seems that the sensor was off at least 3 degrees. Plus the temperature trend at that time of the day is usually upwards, so it may be even more than 3 degrees. Possibly 4.- Anthony
Source: http://www.weather.gov/data/obhistory/PHNL.html
| D
a t e |
Time
(hst) |
Wind
(mph) |
Vis.
(mi.) |
Weather | Sky Cond. | Temperature (ºF) | Pressure | Precipitation (in.) | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Air | Dwpt | 6 hour | altimeter
(in.) |
sea level
(mb) |
1 hr | 3 hr | 6 hr | |||||||
| Max. | Min. | |||||||||||||
| 17 | 17:53 | E 16 | 10.00 | Mostly Cloudy | FEW033 BKN075 | 83 | 67 | 30.00 | 1015.7 | |||||
| 17 | 16:53 | NE 20 G 24 | 10.00 | Mostly Cloudy | SCT028 BKN049 | 85 | 67 | 29.98 | 1015.3 | |||||
| 17 | 15:53 | NE 14 G 24 | 10.00 | Mostly Cloudy | SCT028 BKN070 | 86 | 66 | 29.98 | 1015.3 | |||||
| 17 | 14:53 | NE 18 G 25 | 10.00 | Mostly Cloudy | SCT044 BKN075 | 87 | 65 | 29.99 | 1015.6 | |||||
| 17 | 13:53 | NE 14 G 24 | 10.00 | Mostly Cloudy | SCT042 BKN075 | 88 | 65 | 89 | 84 | 30.00 | 1016.0 | |||
| 17 | 12:53 | NE 13 G 22 | 10.00 | Partly Cloudy | FEW043 SCT075 | 87 | 65 | 30.02 | 1016.4 | |||||
| 17 | 11:53 | NE 20 G 25 | 10.00 | Partly Cloudy | SCT045 | 86 | 65 | 30.03 | 1016.9 | |||||
| 17 | 10:53 | E 15 G 23 | 10.00 | Partly Cloudy | SCT042 | 89 | 66 | 30.04 | 1017.3 | |||||
| 17 | 09:53 | E 15 G 24 | 10.00 | A Few Clouds | FEW042 | 86 | 65 | 30.05 | 1017.5 | |||||
| 17 | 08:53 | NE 16 G 24 | 10.00 | A Few Clouds | FEW040 | 86 | 67 | 30.05 | 1017.5 | |||||
| 17 | 07:53 | E 15 G 22 | 10.00 | A Few Clouds | FEW033 | 84 | 66 | 84 | 79 | 30.05 | 1017.5 | |||
| 17 | 06:53 | E 7 | 10.00 | A Few Clouds | FEW033 | 82 | 67 | 30.04 | 1017.2 | |||||
| 17 | 05:53 | E 7 | 10.00 | Partly Cloudy | FEW028 SCT060 | 80 | 68 | 30.03 | 1016.8 | |||||
| 17 | 04:53 | NE 5 | 10.00 | Partly Cloudy | FEW033 SCT065 | 80 | 67 | 30.01 | 1016.3 | |||||
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This reading is just in time for AGW Cap and Trade solutions. I am starting to think that Washington is going to destroy the US dollar and the world is going to a standard currency, that’s the plan. I can add as to what will follow this, if your interested.
The USSA cannot afford GM, AIG and Bank bailouts, Cap and Trade, Government Health care that cost $1 trillon to cover 1/3rd of those without insurance.
It’s going beyond what is normal, don’t you think?
I enjoyed my first 50 years as an American, I don’t think I am going to enjoy the next 20+ years though. If I am blessed enough to live that long. Maybe it will be better if I don’t?
Per the statement from the “official” link below, not just Hawaii is getting warmer.
The combined average global land and ocean surface temperatures for May 2009 ranked fourth warmest since worldwide records began in 1880, according to an analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090617_globalmay.html
My favorite doublespeak on artic ice coverage is below.
May 2009 is 1.6% less than 1979-2000 average, but should be “on the average” down 7.5% (per the decade average decrease)
Arctic sea ice covered an average of 5.17 million square miles during May. This is 1.6 percent less than the 1979-2000 average extent. By contrast, Antarctic sea ice extent in May was 6.6 percent above the 1979-2000 average. Since 1979, May Arctic sea ice extent has decreased by 2.5 percent per decade, while May Antarctic sea ice extent has increased by 2.1 percent per decade during the same period.
Yes it is wrong. Is it worth fixing or worrying about – of course not.
NOBODY needed to waste time, money and effort to worry about this kind of long term accuracy and precision of sensors in the days before mass AGW hysteria. After all, in the past it is simply about the weather…now it is life and death of our dear precious Gaia…..what piffle.
Soylent Green is People! I’m afraid we’re screwed. Now the government is ignoring facts. It’s not going to change until the there is ice crossing the Canadian Border all the way to Texas.
Smokey, the ‘dotted Q’ has a fly on the tongue.
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This story is simply amazing. Honolulu has a faulty thermometer but all the records set there are kept. Meanwhile as soon as Illinois and Maine set all-time temperature records this past winter they were called into question the day it happened. In fact, so rigorous was the process in trying to ‘debunk’ these records the Illinois one was rescinded that very day. Meanwhile the Maine record took nearly a MONTH to verify and was buried in the news with quotes from alarmists “This does not prove global warming does not exist!”
PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL
432 PM CST FRI JAN 16 2009
…REGARDING ROCHELLE`S LOW TEMPERATURE THIS MORNING…
THE AUTOMATED WEATHER OBSERVING SYSTEM (AWOS) AT THE ROCHELLE
AIRPORT RECORDED A TEMPERATURE OF -36F AT 745 AM THIS MORNING.
WHILE THE THERMOMETER ON THE AWOS WAS RE-CALIBRATED YESTERDAY
AND MAY INDEED BE ACCURATE…AWOS OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT QUALITY
CONTROLLED OR CALIBRATED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AND
ARE ALSO NOT DESIGNED FOR CLIMATE PURPOSES.
THEREFORE…THE STATE CLIMATOLOGIST DOES NOT CONSIDER THIS
TEMPERATURE AN OFFICIAL MEASUREMENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF
DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT AN ALL TIME RECORD LOW FOR THE
STATE WAS REACHED. FOR THE PURPOSE OF DETERMINING RECORD
TEMPERATURES FOR THE STATE…ONLY ASOS AND
COOPERATIVE OBSERVER OBSERVATIONS WILL BE USED SINCE BOTH OF
THESE OBSERVATIONS ARE QUALITY CONTROLLED BY THE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.
So, I ask, where’s the quality control here for Honolulu?? The quality was found to be bad, but the control is lax.
The Honolulu ‘heat wave’ has already been picked up by media outlets but I seriously doubt a follow-up story will find its way through the editor’s office explaining how far off the temperature recording equipment was or that there may have been no records set once these errors were taken into account.
Here’s some articles written recently, with excerpts.
It’s Hot!
I say we name it the Barry Bonds Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa memorial weather station.
That is why hospitals started taking rectal temps. Less fudging the data.
Headline?
Honolulu… NWS Blamed For Huge Drop in Tourism Dollars
A city counselman anonymously asked, “With the shaky economy here, this bogus attack on Honolulu is the last thing we needed. Isn’t there anyone in charge at the weather service?”
Accuracy is always important, but temperature sensors need to be particularly accurate (and precise) in tropical areas, where interannual variation is very slight. In temperate continental areas, the frequency with which a sensor error of 1-4 degrees F would cause a new record to be set would be relatively low, because of the greater inherent variability in day-to-day and interannual temperature. In the middle of the Pacific, every sunny day at a given time of year has pretty much the same temperature. If the sensor is off, you will break records very frequently. They obviously need to delete those records. I’m not sure if they’re trying to support global warming, or whether they just want to cover their behind after the media made a big deal about the heat.
Done. And there is no way they can “misread” my letter.
‘Peter Plail (05:37:28) :
The Beeb also has a wonderful grahic explaining how global warming works. See if you can spot what’s missing . You can find it here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107014.stm
‘
Is the quote from this article a record? I’ve only seen 11 degrees before! 🙂
“But if greenhouse gas emissions rise quickly, that figure could be as high as 12C, Mr Benn said. ”
cheers David
Tom Woods (07:16:35) :
Tom – to be fair, I checked out one of the stories in your post, and they do appear to allude to the FUBAR (see below). Growing up in SC, I do have to laugh about 90 F being “sizzling” hot for the islanders!
PS
Note the line below about the record breaking temperatures “could be inaccurate” – wow, really??? Maybe because of an inaccurate thermometer?
—
Early sizzle fries Oahu
Shave ice sales and AC unit rentals heat up as summer moves in
By Kaylee Noborikawa
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Jun 16, 2009
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Honolulu has burned up records for eight days with sizzling temperatures.
“As far as the records go, it’s just a single digit that’s sending it to the record category consecutively,” said Vic Dejesus of the National Weather Service. “It’s still exceeding 90s or above most days.”
From June 8 through yesterday, the record for high temperature was broken on seven days, and tied on one. Temperatures consistently reached 91 to 92 degrees last week and will continue to be in the low 90s this week, according to the National Weather Service’s Web site.
Temperatures for Honolulu are recorded at Honolulu Airport, and technicians have found that the thermometer shows a warm bias — elevated readings perhaps due to airplane engines or reflected heat from concrete.
Dejesus noted that the record-breaking temperatures could be inaccurate, but the weather has been hot nonetheless.
“I’ve been seeing Honolulu exceed the warmer areas by quite a bit, but it could be because of the warm bias,” said Dejesus.
He said tradewinds have been light to moderate, but are expected to increase at the end of this week, so Honolulu will feel slightly cooler.
Until then, residents will just have to sweat it out.
“TerryS (01:50:29) :
This BBC article should be titled “How not to measure temperature in Africa”
They are planning to deploy 5,000 automatic weather stations across the continent mounted on phone masts.
Of course, being attached to a steel structure, probably with nearby generators, wont introduce any form of bias into the record.”
Reply:Mobile phone base stations produce heat and have air conditioning to cool them. Also you are correct in Africa because the power grid is unreliable most sites use generators to power them. Question is will they sue the data for weather or climate
More computer model based nonsense
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107014.stm
“The government hopes UKCP09 will allow citizens, local authorities and businesses to plan for future decades.
It uses computer models of the world’s climate to make projections of parameters such as temperature, rainfall and wind.”
Yes, you read correctly. They said their computer model can predict the behaviour of wind and rain decades from now.
They’ve moved on from predictions/projections to absolutes now! That’s a big certian rise in just 30 years.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1193847/Summer-temperature-rise-2C-2040-Britain-inevitable-warns-climate-report.html?ITO=1490
cheers David
From the same list as the Honolulu record high:
RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE TIED AT LIHUE HI
434 PM HST THU MAY 21 2009
A RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE OF 61 DEGREES WAS TIED AT LIHUE HI TODAY. THIS TIES THE OLD RECORD OF 61 SET IN 1985. $$
RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE SET AT LIHUE HI
428 PM HST WED MAY 20 2009
A RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE OF 61 DEGREES WAS SET AT LIHUE HI TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 62 SET IN 1985. $$
RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE SET AT LIHUE HI
430 PM HST TUE MAY 19 2009
A RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE OF 61 DEGREES SET AT LIHUE HI TODAY BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 63 SET IN 1985. $$
Let’s see how long it takes them to ‘correct’ that.
Something similar occurred at SeaTac Airport from Dec 2005 – Feb 2006 where the ASOS temperature sensor was off by +2 to +3 deg F over a period of about 2 months. It would have gone on longer except some of us diligent temperature watchers brought it to the attention of the NWS who then diagnosed and fixed the problem. It makes you wonder if an overall warm bias may have developed in the ASOS temperature reporting. There also are some serious quality control issues with ASOS precipitation data. There are now many bogus reports of measurable precipitation where none occurred. For instance, take a look at the 0.01″ reported from Tucson today (18 Jun 2009).
Referring to something Peter Plail wrote – I’ve often wondered, how does one peer review the results of a flawed computer model? And then expect to get away with it…?
OT: The Sarychev eruption is the greatest SO2 injection(to 50,000 feet) of the year, via Volcanism, Eruptions and Seablogger blogs.
@Jason Salit (21:59:45) : “the new sensor in the same deplorable location”
Think about it for a moment. That’s NOT a deplorable location… for the primary purpose of the temperature sensor! Pilots really REALLY need to know the density-altitude of the runway. And the temperature RIGHT AT THE RUNWAY is a key input to that calculation.
That said, I certainly agree that the “right at the runway” temperature is of questionable value for climate data. From a climate data PoV, that thermometer is in a pretty lousy location — that just happens to be the PERFECT location for its primary use.
Offtopic, but an excellent post-mortem on the economics of ethanol –
http://energyoutlook.blogspot.com/
The money quote:
“…this is an industry that has raised food prices, destroyed billions of dollars in shareholder value, and according to the CBO reduced US greenhouse gas emissions by only about 0.2%, even if we ignore offsetting global land-use changes.”
Saving the planet for fun and profit…..errr…..
Wow, pretty amazing result. Nearly every day for a week a record was set, and always either 91 or 92 degrees. That is incredibly stable.
Off topic but more global warming causing troublesome global cooling.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/westview/big-chill-in-churchill-47992231.html
Does anyone know if these sensors typical failure mode causes reading the temperature too high? Just wondering.
REPLY: Yes, the HO83 failure mode reads high is every scenario due to its “lowest bidder” design.
See here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/01/10/inside-the-asos-ho83-tempdewpoint-sensor/
– Anthony