Quote of the Week #10 – the future of underwater flaming

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One thing you can say about AGW alarmists, they are passionate. But passion doesn’t usually equate to factual discourse, as demonstrated so well on Joe Romm’s Climate Progress blog this week by guest blogger Kyle Gracey:

In 2050, I’ll be 77, and given the pace of the climate talks in Bonn these two weeks, I’ll likely spend most of my retirement either under water or on fire.

Sillier words may never have been written.

Of course, if you can’t dazzle ’em with prose, doing a rap music gig for climate delegates is always sure to beat out factual discourse any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

We rapped and rhymed about the threatened survival of nations and developed countries’ weak financing proposals.

I just wonder how well the “negotiators” take to being adopted?

http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/06/12/rap-how-old-will-you-be-in-2050/

Of course this isn’t the first time rap music has been used to make a point about climate. It happened earlier this year when Dr. James Hansen of NASA Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS) opened for a rap trio at the capital climate action protest that (ahem) according to their own claims “closed down” the coal fired power plant in Washington D.C.

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Dr. Jim Hansen gets ready to deliver his message at the protest. Dressed like that, I’m not sure what the message is.

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The hemp hat trio sings for the crowd right after Hansen’s address.

I wonder if Jimbo will start his own record label to help the climate rap effort?

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AnonyMoose
June 14, 2009 4:26 pm

I just sprayed my monitor with a mouth full of liquid refreshment.

Well, we generically know watts up.

Arthur Glass
June 14, 2009 4:43 pm

Aron: You’re going to be that well-off in the middle of another LIA?
Anyone for Tennyson? Here’s a classic locus of dewy-eyed utopianism.
“For I dipt into the future, far as human eye could see,
Saw the Vision of the world, and all the wonder that would be;
Saw the heavens fill with commerce, argosies of magic sails,
Pilots of the purple twilight dropping down with costly bales;
Heard the heavens fill with shouting, and there rain’d a ghastly dew
From the nations’ airy navies grappling in the central blue;
Far along the world-wide whisper of the south-wind rushing warm,
With the standards of the peoples plunging thro’ the thunder-storm;
Till the war-drum throbb’d no longer, and the battle-flags were furl’d
In the Parliament of man, the Federation of the world.
There the common sense of most shall hold a fretful realm in awe,
And the kindly earth shall slumber, lapped in universal law.”
Plague, famine, war and whatever the Fourth Horsemen stands for, are always just around the corner. We in the technologically advanced sector of the world have won a temporary reprieve, not a permanent exemption from these constants.

Arthur Glass
June 14, 2009 4:48 pm

” Most of the posters here will be alive in 2050 due to anti-aging drugs out in the next decade.”
Reminds me: time to re-up on my Reservetrol.
I’ll be 105 in 2050; if I want to look my best, I’d better start working on it now.

June 14, 2009 4:49 pm

😀
I’d planned to tap a few fellow commentors for their clever, hilarious and pithy statements, poetry and self-snipping, but there’s so much quality that I give up.
Kudos and thanks to all you wonderful, funny people.

Aron
June 14, 2009 4:56 pm

bikermailman,
There are obviously many ways to irrigate land. What the Alarmists tend to forget when they make dire predictions of sea level rise is that with economic development there comes an increase in the amount of land that becomes irrigated and increased consumption of water by plants, animals and humans. This cuts into sea level rise and renders the threat harmless. But then we’re dealing with some people who are so stupid that they believe they will spend their retirement on flames and under water at the same time or whatever the next catastrophe “roughly the size of Manhattan” they can conjure up next.

wws
June 14, 2009 5:04 pm

I have a carbon offset deal I think will be irresistible. If Al Gore will just give me a comfortable monthly stipend I promise to cut my personal bean consumption and I will credit him completely with the cut in methane production that results. I’m sure thousands of Americans would be glad to do likewise.

June 14, 2009 5:12 pm

instead of giving their money to lame duck companies or some dictator of a banana republic somewhere
But, if global warming is real, bananas and its associated “consequences ” will be growing farther from the equator. 🙂

Robert Kral
June 14, 2009 5:35 pm

Very interesting article- some effects of non-warming are more or less immediate:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5525933/Crops-under-stress-as-temperatures-fall.html

Paul James
June 14, 2009 5:44 pm

Oh oh from the producers of An Inconvenient Truth comes Food Inc.
“This will do to the food industry what Al Gore did for the debate on climate change”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/5533075/New-film-exposes-unsavoury-side-of-US-food-industry.html
Looks like Al doesn’t make much money off the food industry.

stumpy
June 14, 2009 5:51 pm

So the small % of people living at sea level are unable to move to higher ground over a period of 40 years and will eventually drown in the 70mm odd sea rise lapping around their toes and the warmer climate will result in the spontaneous combustion of those who have not drowned in the 70mm deep water?

HarryG
June 14, 2009 6:02 pm

I noticed on another thread that the BBC had reported on Climate Change protests in Australia. It turns out that the BBC was in fact reporting on the event BEFORE they happened (and in the past tense as if they were a success).
How’s that for unbiased reporting?
BTW – the protests were hadly noticed down under.

CodeTech
June 14, 2009 6:06 pm

Pfft – so many of you have missed the point!
“Global warming” is so 90s. It’s CLIMATE CHANGE, people, and We are responsible. It’s self-evident, because before we started burning fossil fuels there was a benign, constant climate worldwide. All of the storms and changes are our fault. 98% of scientists agree, so it’s settled.
—————–
Seriously, I’ve been at parties (yeah, I actually have somewhat of a social life) where everyone is sitting around in absolute, abject fear for the future of our climate. They really don’t understand why I laugh at them. They truly believe as the original writer does, that the world will basically be destroyed in just a few decades, or at least dramatically altered.
I love hearing the hyperbole of the converted… in a few years they’ll look back on this and have the same embarassment as “we” do looking back on the fashions of our teen years… mullet anyone?

hunter
June 14, 2009 6:15 pm

CodeTech,
Don’t let them get away with changing the name from ‘global warming’ to ‘climate change’.
They fabricated this crisis.
They want to change the name now that it is not working out so well.
Do not let the AGW community get away with sliding the name off stage without explanation.

June 14, 2009 6:17 pm

How the heck did these people ever get taken seriously in the first place? Jim Hansen should have stuck with his muppets – they were good.
Can’t someone out there build a time machine and go back and (s)nip all this global warming nonsense in the bud?

Kum Dollison
June 14, 2009 6:19 pm

[snip]

Steve in SC
June 14, 2009 6:32 pm

In 2050, I’ll be 77, and given the pace of the climate talks in Bonn these two weeks, I’ll likely spend most of my retirement either under water or on fire.
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Not to worry. Over the years there have been literally thousands of college basketball players majoring in Underwater Fire Prevention.
It is a pity that the Hansen crowd was unsuccessful in their attempt to get the congressional power plant shut down.

MartinGAtkins
June 14, 2009 8:13 pm

CodeTech (18:06:13) :
I though Kyle Gracey was playing a game of riddles. Something along the lines.
“I’ll likely spend most of my retirement either under water or on fire.”
What am I?
I think you came close to solving it with “mullet anyone?”.
He’s not a mullet ‘cos they taste awful grilled but he could be a cod.

June 14, 2009 8:14 pm

The easiest way of knowing the existence of the Sun is by the next formula taken from my text book of Astrophysics:
τ = [0.1 (0.007) (M c2)] / L(the dot is the Sun…)
τ = [0.1 (0.007) (2 x 10^33 g) (3 x 10^10 cm/s) 2] / (3.8 x 10^33 erg/s)
τ = 3.3 x 10^17 s
3.3 x 10^17 seconds = ~10.6 billion years. However the nuclei (protons) in the Sun have not enough kinetic energy as for surmounting the Coulombs barrier. Even so, I’m not worried… The Sun is spotless anyway. 😉

Graeme Rodaughan
June 14, 2009 8:31 pm

Hmmm… I see an upswing in the market by 2050 for,
[1] Tin Foil Hats to keep out the boiling Solar rays…
[2] With associated “auto-snorkle” that swings into position whenever the wearer is submerged by rising flood waters.
[3] With convenient solar-powered propellar to provide a “cooling breeze”.
[4] With, asbestos underwear for the fashionable eco-conscious indiviudual to protect “family Jewels” from too much heat.
[5] With deployable mosquito netting to keep out rampant malaria infested Anopheles mozzies.
Now where is that patent documentation form again….
G

Graeme Rodaughan
June 14, 2009 8:34 pm

MartinGAtkins (20:13:37) :
CodeTech (18:06:13) :
I though Kyle Gracey was playing a game of riddles. Something along the lines.
“I’ll likely spend most of my retirement either under water or on fire.”
What am I?
I think you came close to solving it with “mullet anyone?”.
He’s not a mullet ‘cos they taste awful grilled but he could be a cod.

Wonderfully – left of field comment. I never considered that the quoted comment could be interpreted as a riddle. Marvelous.
Is there a Sphinx in the room?

Just Want Results...
June 14, 2009 8:40 pm

Paul James (15:07:24) :
Rap Music the only music genre to begin with a silent C.

Oh, you mean that music is crap.

Aviator
June 14, 2009 8:42 pm

If Kyle and his buddies keep one foot in AGW and the other in reality, they will form thermocouples and there won’t any energy shortage. There, a scientific solution…

Just The Facts
June 14, 2009 8:42 pm

A good summary article from The Australian:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25635195-20261,00.html
We need more mainstream media articles like this, as it succinctly and effectively presents several of the key arguments for skepticism.

June 14, 2009 8:42 pm

Dear Moderator… I posted my message Nasif Nahle (20:14:19) on the wrong thread. My post was for “Sunspots Today: A Cheshire Cat – New Essay from Livingston and Penn”. Is there something you can do? I apologize for bothering you… 🙁
REPLY: No, can’t move between threads, sorry

John H 55
June 14, 2009 9:03 pm

OT but this is new and has over 500 comments accumulated
http://news.aol.com/article/perito-moreno-glacier/526529?icid=webmail|wbml-aol|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fperito-moreno-glacier%2F526529
Massive Glacier
Puzzles Scientists
It’s Doing Something Few Others Do
‘We’re Not Sure Why This Happens’
Glacier Grows Despite Global Warming
By JEANNETTE NEUMANN
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AP
posted: 2 HOURS 34 MINUTES AGO
comments: 594