Updated with a photo, Daryl Ritchison writes:
If you want pictures of the Dickinson snow, here are a couple of pictures sent from a viewer of mine. They reported 1.5″ as these pictures were being taken. The one with the lilac blooming (at right in photo above) is interesting because most years the lilac have finished blooming three weeks ago, but the spring has been so cold in this area that most phenological events are running about 2-3 weeks behind schedule.
More here from the TV station web site: http://www.kxma.com/weather
From the “weather is not climate” department, this report from TV station KXMC in North Dakota:
KXNewsTeam
BISMARCK, N.D. (AP) Snow has fallen in Dickinson in June, the first time in nearly 60 years the city has seen snow past May.
National Weather Service meteorologist Janine Vining in Bismarck says there were unofficial reports of a couple of inches of snow in Dickinson on Saturday.
Vining says snow in North Dakota in June is uncommon, though it’s not unheard of. She says other parts of the state have seen June snow within the past 10 years.
Williston and Bismarck had received only rain as of mid-Saturday, but Vining said snow was possible in those cities later in the day.
Twins Elizabeth (left) and Jeanette McGregor play in the snow in Aviemore
“The timing of the seasons are not changing astronomically – believe me: astrophysicists understand these things.”
What about the precession of the equinoxes?
Any major national news outlet picking up on any of this?
Just want results,
Yes, it was me. I attended the 2nd ICCC in NYC last March. I was the only Filipino there. But I’m not a scientist, I’m an economist. Now I send some shivers to AGWrs here. After attending the Heartland conference in NYC, i’ve given 3 talks already. More talks coming. regards.
Cue Flanagan to comment that it isn’t particularly warm in Belgium.
Hmm, a new “non-cold” name for snow?
Steamstars?
Fluffywater?
smallz79 (06:28:52) :
“Get a load of this article, full of alarmism, and inaccuracies. If you can stand to read this, you see a point made by a guy named Plimer in a book that he published, about the Medieval Warm period being warmer than present. But the writer of the article is quoting the IPCC’s AR4 2007 saying the Medeival warm period was not so warm.
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/2861”
From the article, conclusion #4:
“4.The motivation of those who continue to disseminate dangerous untruths which can only result in the continuous rise of atmospheric CO2 levels and temperatures, shifting the atmospheric state during which humans evolved over the last 2.8 million years, defies contemplation.”
There you are folks! You defy contemplation!
Summer is welcome to start here in western Colorado anytime now. It’s 11am, 55F, and lightly raining. ‘Normal’ for here would be 80-85F, and no rain until August, or perhaps the last week of July. This would not be so unusual, but it has been going on for over two weeks now, and we’ve had only one or two days that hit 80 this year. Whoever has their hand on the climate dial, please set it back to warming. Thank you.
lulo (08:12:52) :
They always have a good explanation, don’t they.
But when it’s warm, it’s yet another ominous sign of manmade warming.
You’re absolutely right – “It’s the sun, stupid!”
tallbloke (04:18:05) :
“E.M.Smith (02:23:33) :
Odd, there are 4 newly active volcanoes on this report this week:
http://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/usgs/
For a total of 20 active (that meet their criteria for inclusion) .
That seems rather like a large percentage increase”
Full moon tomorrow. Second most distant lunar Apogee of 2009 is on wednesday 10th.
This may just be coincidence, but I’ve found quite a few coincidences between lunar orbit maxima/minima and siesmic/volcanic events going back through the records.
For example the Asian Tsunami occurred at full moon one day before the second most distant apogee of 2004.
Tides. The crust itself moves almost 40 cms as the bulge of the moon’s pull goes around. Metastable states could be affected by this at faults, where enough energy has built up and just needs a trigger.
OT, but it fits. This was on Fox news web site:
One in Seven Scientists Say Colleagues Fake Data
Friday, June 05, 2009
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Faking scientific data and failing to report commercial conflicts of interest are far more prevalent than previously thought, a study suggests.
One in seven scientists says that they are aware of colleagues having seriously breached acceptable conduct by inventing results.
Around 46 percent say that they have observed fellow scientists engage in “questionable practices,” such as presenting data selectively or changing the conclusions of a study in response to pressure from a funding source.
However, when scientists were asked about their own behavior, only 2 percent admitted to having faked results.
Daniele Fanelli, of the University of Edinburgh, who carried out the investigation, believes that high-profile cases such as that of Hwang Woo-Suk, the South Korean scientist disgraced for fabricating human stem cell data, are less unusual than is generally assumed.
“Increasing evidence suggests that known frauds are just the tip of the iceberg and that many cases are never discovered,” he said.
The findings, published in the peer-reviewed journal PLoS One, are based on a review of 21 scientific misconduct surveys carried out between 1986 and 2005. The results paint a picture of a profession in which dishonesty and misrepresentation are widespread.
REPLY: Thanks, I’m working up a blog post on this, citing the original story in the Times. – Anthony
For readers’ information:
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/political-climate
Sylvia (23:40:42) : The other one that handled cool temperatures pretty well (nothing was as good as Siberia) was Stupice, an ungainly potato-like tomato plant. The fruit aren’t as lovely as Siberia’s, but the plants are normal size and have an excellent yield.
Thanks! I’ll go looking for Stupice. A good friend is of Czech extraction and I know he’s growing some this year. Maybe I’ll score some seeds off of him… (Stupice is a Czech heirloom)
Somehow I think I’m going to need to specialize in cool tolerant tomatoes… My Siberia has nice fruit set, my Sweet 100 has lots of flowers… The 4th of July has a few fruit set, but small and sparse.
FWIW, the limit on cold tolerance is the rate of growth of a little tube from the pollen into the ovum. It is quite possible that the few fruit set on the “4th of July” are from pollen of the adjacent Siberia … It is by this kind of “selection” that new varieties are created or that Darwin gradually gets more cold tolerance into a random collection of tomatoes in an open pollinated garden.
I’ll be saving seeds from the ‘first fruit’ on each plant to enhance earliness and cold tolerance in my stock. I typically save first and last fruit for seeds. My way of pushing to faster earlier start and longer season cold tolerance. Last year my “last fruit” was seeded out in January after a mild frost… This is the first year I’ve trialed “4th of July” – it is supposed to be a very fast short season variety, but the cold has slowed it down enough that the Siberia is beating it handily.
That’s one of the other ways a plant is a thermometer. It has a direct proportional growth with temperature. The cold tolerant grow rampantly when the ones that need warmth sulk and grow slowly.
http://tomclothier.hort.net/page11.html
Has a wonderful chart of the growth rate vs temperature of germinating seeds on the same graph as germination vs temperature.
It surprised me somewhat to see so many varieties with the same optimal germination temperature. The “days to germination” seem to vary more than the optimal center point. Almost everything seems to center on about 72-75 F, the same temperature people like… Wonder what the optimal Global Average Temperature might be… (it isn’t snow…)
There are a few cold tolerant types (that I’ve tended to focus on and have biased my expectation of a wide range of germination temps). It’s going to be harder to calibrate my “plant soil temperature garden” in that I’m going to need to base it off of “days since planting” per seed type rather than absolute temp per seed type. In retrospect, my Dad always talked about days since planting…. hmmm … wonder if The Old Man knew something that The Kid didn’t quite pick up on.
Either that, or I’m going to need more varieties from more exotic ranges with greater variation in optimal germination temp…
Oh, and notice that the germination percentage has a very well defined peak. One could make a decent thermometer out of a patch of seeds mapped onto a percentage density of germination / time to germinate nomograph…
Conversely, the germination and harvest dates of crop records would make a dandy cross reference on assertions about temperature trends…
smallz79 (10:18:43) : …changing the conclusions of a study in response to pressure from a funding source.
they just want gr$$n results
😉
Pierre Gosselin (10:22:09) :
Link to original in the Wall Street Journal,
‘Worse Than Fiction’
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124424567009790525.html
OT again, but I can not help it.
The EPA is being sued under the clean air act see the link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/06/ap/tech/main5067286.shtml
I am going to bed
Just Want Results… (10:30:16) :
Pierre Gosselin (10:22:09) :
Link to original in the Wall Street Journal,
‘Worse Than Fiction’
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124424567009790525.html
Smallz79:
Yeah I read that one too, a good read. Hats off to mr Pielke
I am really going to bed now, I hope. LOL
Friday/Saturday south of Calgary we received about 6 cm of the wet stuff(melted mostly on contact). Last night -2C (normal 7C). However, this is not Climate Change/AGW, but just wait until this summer when we get a hot spell and we will get a different story I bet! I thought Al Gore flew into this area for a speech….
It is interesting how people from both sides of the coin either want:
to stop the warming or see the cooling.
Suppose in mathmatics it would be:
(- -) = +
On noes! We want the same thing! Cooling?!
1. Stop the warming because its bad!
2. Start the cooling because it’ll make them shutup! Hah!
Many of the comments refer to personal insights into their local temperatures. If you from the USA, you can create a graph of a temperature station in your state.
Scroll down to the State Map. (not the one on top)
Click your state. Pick a location.
Choose mean temperature vs. year
Choose mean temperature, and plug in the years.
Click Get Plot.
http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/epubs/ndp/ushcn/usa_monthly.html
Mine from Penna are here, scroll down 1/2 page
http://www.nofreewind.com/climate.html
I cherry picked 1998 to start and you can see the downward trend. Temperature have gone up slightly from 1890 to 2006. The temp trend line increased from 52.2F to 53.6F or 1.4F, that is in 120 years.
Note: the graph says 2008 but data is only through 2006. Why? A few years ago I was able to go the Penn State Univ. climatology site and research historical climate data, however it is no longer publicly accessible without a special request. I don’t know where to get Pa. climate data from 2007-present. I suppose that link above is for data before the change in policy, unless I am missing something.
Winnipeg has had five consecutive months below normal. Currently the daily highs are riding just slightly above the normal lows! I have coined a new word for this: SPRINTER – a poor excuse for both winter and spring!
The last two years, several varieties of plants in my yard have died over the winter…. varieties that ordinarily thrive here….so, when does weather cease to be weather, and become climate? 🙂
James Allison (02:33:46) : The solution – he swallowed them. Very novel I thought.
Egads man! The “recovery” would be, er, um, nevermind…
I presume it worked? Many seeds are “designed” such that a bird can eat them an poop them out elsewhere ready to go with fertilizer “packet”. But we are not birds… Just remember not to chew! I’m gonna need to remember that one…
FWIW, it is easy for small seeds to get caught in a pants cuff and / or stuck to a sock that just happened to get turned inside out for making a sock ball while packing… Accidentally, of course… Always check thoroughly to assure that you are not violating seed import rules by inspecting such places…
Seed Savers Exchange is a great way to get “odd” varieties. There is often someone already “inside” a geography that has the variety already…
http://www.seedsavers.org/
It is basically a “peer to peer” network of heirloom gardeners preserving varieties. Kind of F.451 ish in a way… you pick a seed (or a few seeds) “to be” and propagate / preserve them… I have a ‘seed freezer’ on the porch, with a deep archive of a few dozen types, so I don’t quit fit the mold. I’m still searching for which “one” to be… At the moment I’m thinking maybe a fodder beet or an open pollinated sugar beet (both severely near extinction) but next month, who knows… (Focus, come on, focus, pick ONE to stick with and reliably offer to the world… 😉
One could probably get a global warming metric off of the varieties offered by folks in a given geography each year. “Crop Failures” sometimes make varieties scarce in a region…
Oh, Cool!
This site also gives you yearly precipitation totals from the early 1900’s through recent. I just did about 10 states throughout the US and can see the ENORMOUS yearly variability, but NO CLEAR TREND over the past 80’s. There are MANY years where precipitation is well above or below the mean.
Flood and Droughts are regular occurrences….how convenient…and us chumps will pay!
http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/epubs/ndp/ushcn/usa_monthly.html
Dodgy Geezer (04:12:50) : Here is a reference to a time-measuring ‘floral clock’…http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/05/carolus_linnaeus_floral_clocks.php
Thanks! I needed that! (I’d vaguely remembered seeing a story like this somewhere but had lost the pointer…)
VERY sorry for multiple posts, but after reading the comment above on why the glaciers index has not been updated since 2006. I impelled to say the same about the NOAA Atlantic Hurricane indexes. How hard can it be to add a few numbers to a table for 2008?
Here is through 2007, note 2005 was a big Major Hurricane year, but less than 1950 and tied with 1961(approx).
http://nofreewind.com/atlantic_hurricanes.jpg
Now for Accumulated Cyclone Index or “energy” of the storms.
http://nofreewind.com/atlantic_ace.jpg
Here is the RAW Data.
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/original_revisedHURDATtable_mar09.html
Here is the Global & Northern Hemi Accum Cylcone Index, another source.
http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/global_running_ace.jpg
And for a Sunday afternoon, here is the best IPCC dropout denier story of all.
http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/archives/science_policy_general/000318chris_landsea_leaves.html
To everyone, if you want warm weather go to Asia right now, plenty warm in many areas according to the world forecast maps from Intellicast, mainly north of the Himalayas and the Middle East
And we’re supposed to get up to 96 today before seeing a sizable cooldown so we’re getting our first really summery bout of weather, in the paper they show some Kansas towns forecast to have temps. only in the low 80’s and upper 70’s and 60 miles away other towns in the 90’s. So lots of temp. variation over North America and possibly other places right now.