Updated with a photo, Daryl Ritchison writes:
If you want pictures of the Dickinson snow, here are a couple of pictures sent from a viewer of mine. They reported 1.5″ as these pictures were being taken. The one with the lilac blooming (at right in photo above) is interesting because most years the lilac have finished blooming three weeks ago, but the spring has been so cold in this area that most phenological events are running about 2-3 weeks behind schedule.
More here from the TV station web site: http://www.kxma.com/weather
From the “weather is not climate” department, this report from TV station KXMC in North Dakota:
KXNewsTeam
BISMARCK, N.D. (AP) Snow has fallen in Dickinson in June, the first time in nearly 60 years the city has seen snow past May.
National Weather Service meteorologist Janine Vining in Bismarck says there were unofficial reports of a couple of inches of snow in Dickinson on Saturday.
Vining says snow in North Dakota in June is uncommon, though it’s not unheard of. She says other parts of the state have seen June snow within the past 10 years.
Williston and Bismarck had received only rain as of mid-Saturday, but Vining said snow was possible in those cities later in the day.
Twins Elizabeth (left) and Jeanette McGregor play in the snow in Aviemore
Chris (00:52:43) :
“Kashmir Valley…. first time in four decades that the Valley has experienced snowfall in June…. Hotels in Sonamarg are bustling with tourists who are enjoying their holidays and the unexpected snowfall has added to the fun. Mushtaq Ahmed, owner of Sonamarg Glacier Hotel said his hotel is fully occupied.”
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200906061502.htm
Smallz79
Maybe we had an extra leap year somewhere in nature, but our calender did not pick up on it? I dunno anything is possible.
There is a cyclicity to these things. Perhaps the moons 18.6 year cycle plays a part, along with the sun’s hale cycle.
I liked your post on CP yesterday in support of Anthony’s surface stations project by the way.
Hell_is_like_newark (04:39:19) :
“At what point does enough of a patter develop that its no longer ‘weather’ but instead ‘climate’?”
Silly question. When it is warmer, that is Climate. Otherwise, weather.
CodeTech: I’ll be in Calgary this week. So fire up all the SUV’s and BBQ’s, and warm the place up a bit. I hate cold weather. My parka won’t fit in my carry-on.
Also here in southern Alberta … yesterday’s high was a blistering 7°C and it went down to zero last night. (Norms for June 6 are 22°C and 8°C.) Heavy snow in Waterton National Park and it snowed on the east side of the Rockies. Last week we went for a drive near Waterton and there were still some old-winter snow drifts in coulees and shady areas out on the plains.
Been a long winter and the days start getting shorter in 2 weeks. ☺
Reporters are beginning to ask “What’s going on?”
http://www.newstalk980.com/story/20090606/17514
It’s the sun, stupid.
It is all due to AGW, and we denialists are just too wicked to recognize this enlightened truth.
“Al Gore has been wrong all along!” Rohrabacher yelled into the microphone.
this article is linked to Drudge
http://hamptonroads.com.nyud.net/2009/06/global-warming-not-so-fast-skeptics-say-meeting
Snow falls in Western ND, in June
linked to front page at Drudge
http://www.kxmc.com/News/386720.asp
Rain, sleet, snow and sunshine all in one day – yesterday here in Southern Alberta. Near-freezing temperatures, but our plants will survive. Not so sure about the people though; it’s been a very long, very cold winter.
It’s called ‘weather’ when you are cold.
It’s called ‘climate’ when everybody is cold.
Well, everybody has written to Wattsup from all over the planet, and this is sounding more like ‘climate’ than ‘weather’.
Has serious global cooling arrived? ( I think not. This is just a little taste of the real cooling to come by 2020-2030. Hope I’m wrong.)
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Ever notice how almost everything the IPCC and friends have written in the past has turned out to be false (it’s not just the hockey stick), whereas the work of climate skeptics has stood up quite well?
Here’s an example from 2002:
http://www.apegga.org/members/Publications/peggs/WEB11_02/kyoto_pt.htm
Notice how the Pembina Institute authors, relying on the IPCC, have failed the test of time (I am abiding by the rules of professional courtesy; I could use much stronger words).
In contrast, the article written by Sallie, Tim and me has stood up pretty well.
Enjoy your day. It’s sunny out there, and must be above freezing by now.
Regards, Allan
Yet more linked at Drudge
‘Global warming is baloney’ signs put the heat on Burger King
“The [restaurant] management team can put the message up there if they want to. It is private property and here in the US we do have some rights. Notwithstanding a franchise agreement, I could load a Brinks vehicle with [rights] I’ve got so many of them. By the time the Burger King lawyers work out how to make that stick we’d be in the year 2020.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/05/burger-king-global-warming-us
Now if we could only get Drudge to link a story directly from WattsUpWithThat!!
That should be a strange news for the AGWers. Here in Metro Manila, rainy season this year started mid-April vs June or July several years ago. We’ve had 9 days straight of dark skies and rains until yesterday, today I was very happy to see the Sun! We’re near the equator but the Sun is hiding too often!
I sent the Kashmir Valley snow story to the Drudge tip box (scroll 3/4 way down in right column there to find it). If enough people alert them to the story link maybe they’ll add it to their global warming links.
As Anthony posted in his Green Bubble thread—the word is getting out and the bubble is bursting!
Kashmir Valley link :
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200906061502.htm
Gary Pearse (05:26:04) :
Andrew P (02:03:20) : and Thomas and Rys Jaggar
Okay, so you corrected the altitude by 400m and yes Rys you are desperately reaching for the historic record to show that June snow all over the world is really just normal. Normal is a word your sect is generally loathe to use these days and it is definitely a synonym for notably below normal that your leaders order you to use only as a last resort
Well Mr Pearse, I would appreciate you withdrawing a few things here.
1. Please spell my name right, it is RHYS, not RYS.
2. ‘My sect’ does not exist – I am NOT an AGW proponent, nor am I an ‘ice age fanatic’, as you would be aware of if you had read my contributions to the blogosphere more widely.
3. I did not use the word ‘normal’ to describe snow in June. I pointed out two other occasions it had happened over a 30 year period – hardly ‘normal’. Not unheard of is what I would say.
4. I have NO leaders, as I am sure the neocons would be happy to confirm, give my somewhat vigorous and unorthodox resistance to bombing the shit out of Iraqis; global warming fanatics in the UK Press who I have given some fairly vigorous dressings down to; nor climatologists who believe that they have an inalienable right to tens of millions of research funds to build dodgy computer models.
YOU have interpreted my words and turned it into what you wrote.
That doesn’t mean that I meant what you said I meant.
Sir……..
rip warming (20:54:24) :
“The word snow is no longer allowed, pls refer to it as merely ’soft hail’.”
I’m afraid that conjures up too cold of an image to make it past the AGW compliance filters. How about “condensed crystalline water vapor”?
Its snowing this morning in Wyoming too, even in the desert (3,600 Ft) Bighorn Basin. The cold wet weather in multiple places such as Western Europe and Southern Canada sounds very similar to what has been described before in times of very low solar activity, times associated with widespread crop failure. The argument is often made Climate verses Weather but what we are seeing looks more like a pattern shift to a pattern of southward expansion of the Westerlies with high amplitude ridges and troughs and blocking highs. This is the same type of pattern that was associated with the 1993 floods in the midwest after the cooling caused by Pinatubo and the blizzards in the Eastern USA in the late 70’s that prompted Hanson and company to cry “Global Cooling”. I wonder what Joe Romm will say if the much vaunted coming El Nino fails to produce record high temperatures. He’ll probably say something like “Aerosols”.
“Allan M R MacRae (08:19:51) : In contrast, the article written by Sallie, Tim and me has stood up pretty well.”
Could I have the link to the article? I’d like to read it. TIA
Nonoy Oplas (08:27:31) :
Is that you in the photo with President Vaclav Klaus at the link to your name?
Arthur Glass
Referring to Newark, NJ. Though the Ironbound section is decent, I developed a deep resentment for Newark… mainly due to the profound incompetence of its government. Not to go into detail, but I had to go to court twice because Newark thought I owned property there. Both cases were due to corruption or incompetence. That damn city put me through Hell twice.
jh (02:39:12) :
That’s a good idea (annotating), thanks.
This an exciting thread. It seems moving from global warming to climate change is a good PR stunt.
I am still laughing how the warmers claim the rest are deniers. Claim the deniers are anti science. Nothing is more anti science than to blame global warming for a weather incident flight air france before information was gathered, Troo scientists go over dat and check it twice or more. Soothsayers are alive and well and make blind claims.
It looks like my reply to afore mentioned site/article is being denied after attempting 2/3 times. That site is definately onesided and will do anything to avoid a debate. Hhhhmmm.
Hell_is_like_newark
Well, if you have experience in Newark, NJ, then you do have grounds for criticism.
The deep-seated corruption, stupidity and incompetence in the city government is indeed bind-bogling. Sharpe James, the myor for two decades, is now a guest of the Federal government for a couple of years, joining two of his three predecessors in that distinction. The current mayor, Corey Booker, is smart and articulate, but he has generations of a ‘this is the way we have always operated’ mindset to swim against.
Despite all this, the downtown section at least is much better in every way than it was twenty years ago, and the Ironbound still draws folks from NYC and elsewhere looking for good food at non-exorbitant prices.
Stop back and visit some day, if you can.
Re; the Burger King flap.
No one has the ‘right’ to own a Burger King franchise, and my first reaction is that it is the company that has every right not to associate its name with sentiments it cares not to be associated with.
tallbloke (07:54:26) :
Thanks.
lulo (07:43:20) :
smallz79: The timing of the seasons are not changing astronomically – believe me: astrophysicists understand these things.
I know my thought was greatly far fetched, but curiuosity killed the cat.
At this point I am just frustrated, buy these people that say climate is not weather on the AGWers side, I understand there is a difference, but does not the weather have an impact on climate? I would think so.
I am also frustrated that that blog I was trying to reply to will not post my comments.
They were very simple
“Kudos to publishing this article just as reports of record breaking lows are being reported for the month of June. Got to keep those “Skeptics” on thier toes.
LMAO…………