Former head of CSIRO's division of space science says global cooling may be on the way

From Australia’s Canberra Times:

27/08/2008 9:39:00 AM
Climate change has been the most important and complex issue on my plate in 15 years as a science and technology correspondent for The Canberra Times. So an appropriate topic for a farewell commentary for this newspaper is an emerging scientific debate with the potential to complicate the already difficult relationship between scientists and politicians on this issue.The effect of the sun’s activity on global temperatures has loomed large in arguments from climate change sceptics over the years. Several Russian scientists have argued that the current period of global warming is entirely due to a cycle of increased solar activity.

NSW Treasurer Michael Costa is understood to be among a small group of Australian politicians and other opinion-shapers to embrace this notion.

It is wise to be sceptical of many Russian scientists and all politicians, so I have given this ”solar forcing” explanation of global warming little credence until I attended a forum at the Academy of Science earlier this year and heard it from a scientist of undoubted integrity and expertise in this area. A former head of CSIRO’s division of space science, Dr Ken McCracken was awarded the Australia Prize the precursor of the Prime Minister’s Science Prize in 1995. Now in his 80s, officially retired and raising cattle in the ACT hinterland, he is still very active in his research field of solar physics.

McCracken is adamantly not a climate change sceptic, agreeing that rising fossil-fuel emissions will be a long-term cause of rising global temperatures.

But his analysis of the sun’s cyclical activity and global climate records has led him to the view that we are entering a period of up to two decades in which reduced solar activity may either flatten the upward trend of global temperatures or even cause a slight and temporary cooling. In a paper given in 2005 to a ”soiree” hosted by then president of the Academy of Science, Professor Jim Peacock, McCracken said the sun was the most active it had been over 1000 years of scientific observation. This made it inevitable that its activity would decrease over the next two decades in line with historically observed solar cycles.

”The reduced ‘forcing’ might compensate, or over-compensate, for the effects of the increasing concentration of greenhouse gases,” he said. ”It is likely that there will be a cessation of around 20 years in the increase in world temperature, or possibly a decrease by 0.1 [degrees] or more.”

I put this to Dr David Jones, head of climate analysis for the Bureau of Meteorology’s National Climate Centre, whose overarching judgment is that the warming effect of fossil fuel emissions is an increasingly dominant factor on global temperature to the extent that it will not be slowed by lower solar activity.

After an email conversation, Jones said he and McCracken are in general agreement but differ on emphasis and one key judgment. ”Natural solar variability is potentially important, but the climate history and physics tell us that the probability of this factor sufficiently cooling the planet to offset the enhanced greenhouse effect is distinctly remote,” Jones wrote.

The main point of disagreement was McCracken’s view that the rate of global warming could be eased or reduced by a fall in solar activity. ”I have never seen a credible paper published using a climate model that shows this,” Jones wrote.

He points to recent data which indicates that global temperatures are probably rising faster than previously thought, raising the urgency of calls from climate scientists for political action to reduce emissions. Yet any uncertainty over the sun’s influence creates a lever that climate sceptics and developing nations will seize upon to stall such action.

If McCracken is wrong and temperatures continue to climb during a decade or two of low solar activity, the need for emissions reductions will be dramatically reinforced.

However, if temperatures do not rise over this period, steeling the political will for such action by all nations will be much more difficult.

The dilemma for the science sector is a classic: how to communicate uncertainty.

As McCracken rightly observed in 2005, a lull in temperature rises would provide a wonderful opportunity for political and technological effort to gain the initiative in the fight against climate change by turning global emissions around and thus hopefully avoid worst-case warming scenarios when the sun’s fires stoke up again mid-century.

But he also noted the risk that mainstream climate science, led by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, would be seen by its critics and others to have been ill-informed at best or misleading at worst, diminishing its credibility and eroding political commitment to emission reductions.

McCracken believes science should be upfront. ”I believe that we must state firmly that a cooling is possible in the near future, but that the warming would then resume 10-20 years hence,” he said via email. ”It will be very hard to argue for public trust if we say nothing about the possibility, and then try to argue our way out after it happens. Using an Aussie rules analogy, that would be like giving the climate sceptics a free kick 10m in front of goal.”

Australia is definitely entering a footy finals period, and the Earth may be entering a period where human-induced global warming slows temporarily. Many scientists will not be comfortable to consider this possibility, and even less comfortable that journalists canvas it, because in good faith they want nothing to deflect efforts to combat global warming.

However, I have always aimed to tell readers what they deserve to know, not what they may want to hear or what governments, scientists or interest groups would prefer they were told. This has earned me brickbats and bouquets over the years, as it should do, and as I expect it will on this occasion.

Simon Grose is Canberra correspondent for Science Media.

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Ed Scott
August 27, 2008 1:09 pm

To MarkW
There is a monograph, written by a Frenchman, on anthropogenic global warming during which he states the axiom: Computer models are not reality, Nature is reality.
“Scientists,” who believe in the efficacy of their computer models are not dealing with reality. This is an over-riding problem in the AGW controversy. Scientists should be dealing with scientific fact separate from politics and computer models.

Dan McCune
August 27, 2008 1:18 pm

Leif Svalgaard (10:19:04) When ever I see one of your posts in response to one of mine I get the biggest smile because of my utmost respect and admiration of your opinions.
I am a computer scientist and in my world everything must be 1, 0 or NULL. I frequent this blog because I simply can’t understand how AGW became the Null Hypothesis.
“…the null hypothesis is presumed true until statistical evidence, in the form of a hypothesis test, indicates otherwise — that is, when the researcher has a certain degree of confidence, usually 95% to 99%, that the data does not support the null hypothesis.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_hypothesis
With a 95% to 99% confidence interval there is a long way to go before the “consensus” changes.

August 27, 2008 1:32 pm

Ed Scott (13:09:47) :
“Scientists,” who believe in the efficacy of their computer models are not dealing with reality.
I beg to differ a bit. A ‘model’ is an encoding of our knowledge of ‘reality’. Apart from the [perhaps useless] philosophical discussion of if there ‘is’ a reality in the first place, scientists [and you can omit the quotes] use models to describe reality as best they can. Often, the model is deliberately simplified to explore only a portion of reality. Often, the model is too simple because we don’t know the boundary conditions well enough, or do not have the computer power to handle reality with enough fidelity, but reality is always the sought after goal. The modelers do the best that can be done. Granted, that this is often not good enough, the proper criticism should be to suggest how the model can be improved.

Frank L/ Denmark
August 27, 2008 1:58 pm

neven: you write “What if La Nina wears off …”
The La Nina had max january 2008, and was in reality gone in may 2008. today there is most a neutral La Nina/El Nina situation.
So when it seems that we have 1) falling temperatures and 2) temperatures lower than last year, you can hardly anymore explain it with La Nina.
Its true that this years ice area in arctic is only a little larger than last year, dont forget that the ice this year was thinner to begin with. So the ice right now is not a “warming argument” compared to last year.

David Corcoran
August 27, 2008 2:35 pm

Neven: “And snow in Malibu? Does that sound like normal climate conditions?”
Obviously not 🙂 . But if it happens this winter, will you stop believing in CAGW? A 1,000 year long ice age isn’t enough to dissuade most true believers that I’ve spoken with. Non-falsifiable indeed.
However, the general public are not cultists. They won’t need snow in the tropics to turn. All they have to experience are temperatures called “normal” before alarmism was preached. They won’t need to be de-propagandized… the weather will do that for them day by day, hour by hour.

Mike Hodges
August 27, 2008 2:54 pm

Lief:
I meant to type Dr. McCracken. Realized I forgot to fix before I submitted.
No disrespect intended.
Best Regards

statePoet1775
August 27, 2008 3:05 pm

“or do not have the computer power to handle reality with enough fidelity, but reality is always the sought after goal. The modelers do the best that can be done.” Leif
If the climate is proven to be chaotic, will we get some rest from those who try to predict it? I’ve heard “wolf” so often that I walk up to pet them.

August 27, 2008 4:08 pm

Leif – I’m personally sorry your friend Ken McCracken feels unable to post here. I’m sorry, especially in the light of the frequent encouragements we have seen on these pages to encourage non-skeptics, or at least non-hardline skeptics, to contribute.
Al Gore, saying “the debate is over” and “there is consensus”, did real debate a monstrous disservice. Of course, stifled feelings build up and up. When I did a U-turn from the AGW position, I looked back with horror on my previous language. Then, I would probably have seen Watts Up as bad language and attacking too, though I seldom do now. Please do ask your friend again.

Michael Hauber
August 27, 2008 4:21 pm

ENSO is a quite strong driver of short term global temperature variability (say roughly 6 months to 2 years). From what I’ve read there is usually a lag of 6 to 9 months between ENSO changes and temperature changes.
If true, then there should be a warming trend starting in the next month or two, as the La Nina peaked in February, and ENSO conditions have significantly warmed sinced then (and I’m guessing have now peaked somewhat short of an actual El Nino and are about to go down again). Based on the trend post the 1998/1999 la nina, a temperature increase of very roughly 0.2 may be on the cards.
And of course if this upward trend does happen in the next 6 months, it won’t be CO2 but ENSO changes. Current AGW theory is that CO2 would take closer to 10 years to warm the earth by 0.2 degrees.

Robert Wood
August 27, 2008 4:27 pm

In response to several posts I have seen around and about:
“Global temperatures” can only be influenced by external sources and change in albedo. The PDO and NAO can only redistribute the planet’s energy .

Leon Brozyna
August 27, 2008 4:33 pm

from Steven Hill (04:48:21) :
“The AP is reporting this, Arctic sea ice drops to 2nd lowest level on record.”
Actually, AP’s story is from the newest posting from the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) which can be seen here:
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
This is the forth update from NSIDC just this month, including two in two days {Aug 25 & 26}.
This thin fragile first year ice seems to have held on quite well, lasting this late into the melt season. Looking at the latest melt line being shown at NSIDC, it appears it may match last year’s melt in the next ten days, in view of the latest downtick in that line over the past couple of days {a total guesstimate on my part – it also may be total rubbish}.

Leon Brozyna
August 27, 2008 4:52 pm

tsk tsk — that should read fourth update, rather than forth update.
Is that senility I hear, running off with my typing/spelling skills?

Pamela Gray
August 27, 2008 6:36 pm

Can anyone report on the average Arctic temp month by month this year compared to last year? Is there any data (or filled in data) that would help this discussion?

Ed Scott
August 27, 2008 6:38 pm

To Lief Svalgaard
I had thought, from your opening statement, that you were in disagreement with my statement that computer models were not reality. The computer model is an encoding of the limited knowledge of the complexities of Nature that the programmer possesses complete with the programmer’s innate bias. There is a reality, whether you agree philosophically or not, as in the reality of people in the Caribbean suffering the reality of Hurricane Gustav. The problem arises when the scientist (I eliminate the parentheses in deference to your wishes) builds a model, as best he can, and a scientific ignoramus such as Al Gore, adopts the program (erroneous as it might be) as reality and launches a dooms-day program to cause damage to the peoples of the world. Whether simple or complex there is no scientist, no programmer who can conceive a computer model that will emulate the reality of Nature. From your writing I believe that we are, in reality, somewhat in agreement in spite of possible philosophical differences.

statePoet1775
August 27, 2008 7:11 pm

“that should read fourth update, rather than forth update.”
That reminds me of the reverse Polish computer language called “Forth”. My favorite pun with it: “Go Forth and multiply”. Leon

August 27, 2008 7:48 pm

Miss Skywalker said (16:08:16) :
“Al Gore, saying “the debate is over” and “there is consensus”, did real debate a monstrous disservice.”
I’m not sure I can agree with you Miss Skywalker. St Al of Gore’s word was rarely dissented from in non-scientific circles because all we heard was one side, his side. Then we heard “the science is settled” and “the debate is over”. To this corpulent non-scientist in London those phrases mean only one thing: “I don’t want you looking into this”, a distinct aroma of rat was in the air. For me the debate then started. And just think, without my involvement you would not know that a cricket ball swings more in humid air than in dry.
By the way, that’s a lovely fluffy ballgown you have on this evening Miss Skywalker (if, in fact, you are naked, you need ironing).

statePoet1775
August 27, 2008 8:25 pm

“By the way, that’s a lovely fluffy ballgown you have on this evening Miss Skywalker (if, in fact, you are naked, you need ironing).” FatBigot
Moderator,
Can we get away with stuff like this?

August 27, 2008 10:11 pm

I did wonder whether to include that old and very poor joke, Mr Poet. On reflection I rather wish I hadn’t and I apologise to anyone if it caused offence (particularly Miss Skywalker).

August 27, 2008 10:17 pm

[…] Former head of CSIRO’s division of space science says global cooling may be on the way. […]

rutger
August 28, 2008 1:20 am

@pamala grey (18.36)
this is from norwegian wetter service, its for svalbard and jan mayen at the edge of de arctic ice (atm)
http://www.yr.no/sted/Norge/Svalbard/Ny-Ålesund/statistikk.html
http://www.yr.no/sted/Norge/Jan_Mayen/Nordkapp/statistikk.html
in the left menu you can click on polaromradene for some other arctic and antactic data,

August 28, 2008 1:20 am

No offence taken Fat Bigot, I thought that was funny, and anyway you were correct, I too smelled a rat (but not with Al Gore, he had me rarin’ to go) and haven’t looked back since my U-turn from AGW.
But I do want to encourage other AGW people to see skeptics as courteous and open to debate – and it’s easy to forget that what looks normal and courteous to us now, may not look polite or open to someone who genuinely wants to do good science but only knows AGW people and is completely unaware of things like the useless models, the corruption of the peer review process, or even the truth of the Hockey Stick.
I did a primer explicitly for such people – I know what the U-turn was like. And I now have a little list of good (IMO) primers and skeptic connections for starters. I’d be really glad if Anthony could add this list, or something like it, to his website, so that newcomers here can get their bearings and don’t get lost or think we’re all rude like we see at certain other websites, naming no names…

Editor
August 28, 2008 4:39 am

statePoet1775 (20:25:06) :
“Can we get away with stuff like this?”
Apparently – we have an existence proof that you can get away with it, at least if you’re fat and a bigot. I like existence proofs, they’re the very best form of anecdotal evidence.
Other studies have shown how much people rely on stereotypes, excuse me while I go update one of mine. 🙂

statePoet1775
August 28, 2008 4:43 am

FatBigot,
I was teasing you and the Moderator a bit. It was funny. In the US we can’t get away with politically incorrect speech or jokes. Thanks for the laugh.

Editor
August 28, 2008 4:47 am

Robert Wood (16:27:39) :

“Global temperatures” can only be influenced by external sources and change in albedo. The PDO and NAO can only redistribute the planet’s energy .

Perhaps, but what if they move clouds from warm areas to cool areas? Then overall radiational cooling increases. What if they affect the albedo? Are you suggesting that all oscillations, including ENSO, only redistribute energy?
My apologies for not including references to answer my questions.

Stefan
August 28, 2008 7:07 am

Lucy,
I agree, and personally the way in which people talk about this stuff is very important to me. Not being a scientist, I tend to listen to how things are said, as I’m not particularly able to judge the detail and content. I used to believe AGW as presented in the media 100%. And I believed it all to be true right up until I started hearing people say “the debate is over”, and “anyone who disagrees is paid by oil companies”. I instantly dropped my belief, and became curious about what they were trying to shut up. For people like me, their strategy completely backfired.