
Key degrees of difference
Cameron Stewart, Associate editor | August 09, 2008
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24148862-11949,00.html
HAS global warming stopped? The question alone is enough to provoke scorn from the mainstream scientific community and from the Government, which says the earth has never been hotter. But tell that to a new army of sceptics who have mushroomed on internet blog sites and elsewhere in recent months to challenge some of the most basic assumptions and claims of climate change science.
Their claims are provocative and contentious but they are also attracting attention, so much sothat mainstream scientists are being forced torespond.
The bloggers and others make several key claims. They say the way of measuring the world’s temperature is frighteningly imprecise and open to manipulation. They argue that far from becoming hotter, the world’s temperatures have cooled in the past decade, contrary to the overwhelming impression conveyed by scientists and politicians.
As such, they say there should be far greater scepticism towards the apocalyptic predictions about climate change. Even widely accepted claims, such as that made by Climate Change Minister Penny Wong that “the 12 hottest years in history have all been in the last 13 years”, are being openly challenged.
“She is just plain wrong,” says Jennifer Marohasy, a biologist and senior fellow of the Institute of Public Affairs. “It’s not a question of debate. What about the medieval warming period? The historical record shows they were growing wine in England, for goodness sake; come on. It is not disputed by anyone that the Vikings arrived in Greenland in AD900 and it was warmer than Greenland is now. What Penny Wong is doing is being selective and saying that is a long time ago.”
But selective use of facts and data is fast becoming an art form on both sides of the climate change debate now that real money is at stake as the West ponders concrete schemes to reduce carbon emissions. So what is the validity of some of the key claims being made by these new blogger sceptics?
Their first claim is that the most basic aspect of climate change science – the measurement of global warming – is flawed, imprecise and open to manipulation.
The earth’s temperature is measured using land-based weather stations – in effect, a network of thermometers scattered unevenly across the globe – as well as via satellites and ocean-based weather sensors. There are four agencies that measure the world’s temperatures and each has different methodology and produces varying, although not dramatically different, results.
Sceptics accuse climate change believers of always quoting the agency that shows the highest level of warming, the US National Aeronautic and Space Administration’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies run by prominent climate change scientist and activist James Hansen.
An independent study by Yale University in the US shows GISS says the earth has warmed by 0.025C a year during the past eight years while the other best-known measurement agency, London’s Hadley Centre, says it warmed by only 0.014C a year during the same period. Not surprisingly, the Hadley figures are the most quoted by climate change sceptics while the GISS figures are most popular with climate change believers.
David Evans, former consultant to the Australian Greenhouse Office, says Hansen’s GISS is unreliable because it is the only measurement agency that relies almost wholly on land-based data instead of satellites.
“Land-based temperature readings are corrupted by the urban heat island effect,” he says. “Urban areas encroaching on thermometer stations warm the micro-climate around the thermometer due to vegetation changes, concrete, cars and houses.”
As such, he alleges that the GISS figures – which are enormously influential in the climate change debate – are “hopelessly corrupted” and may even be manipulated to suit Hansen’s views on global warming.
A group of weather buffs in the US also has attacked GISS’s methodology, putting together an online photo gallery of US weather stations at website www.surfacestations.org that shows some thermometers situated next to asphalt runways and parking lots where they would pick up excess warming.
But GISS says the distorting impact of this urban warming is negated because data from these stations is modified to remove these effects and give a true reading. Hansen acknowledges there may be flaws in the weather station data because temperature measurement is not always a precise science. But he says this does not mean big-picture trends can’t be drawn from the data.
He says: “That doesn’t mean you give up on the science and that you can’t draw valid conclusions about the nature of earth’s temperature change.”
Hansen has been infuriated by the attacks on GISS by climate change critics. Last year Canadian blogger and retired businessman Stephen McIntyre exposed a minor mistake in Hansen’s figures that had caused GISS to overstate US temperatures by a statistically small 0.15C since 2000.
Sceptics were energised. “We have proof of man-made global warming,” roared conservative American radio host Rush Limbaugh. “The man-made global warming is inside NASA.”
Hansen struck back, saying he would “not joust with court jesters” who sought to “create a brouhaha and muddy the waters in the climate change story”.
What the bloggers have succeeded in doing is to highlight that measuring climate change is an evolving science. But their success has been at the margins only. So far they have failed to prove that these discrepancies negate the broader core arguments about the trends of global warming.
However, the second argument being put forward by blogger sceptics is more accessible to the public and therefore is having a greater impact. They argue that, contrary to the impressions given about global warming, the earth’s temperatures have plateaued during the past decade and may have cooled in recent years. This, they argue, should not be happening when carbon emissions are growing rapidly. This was not what the climate change modellers predicted. Their conclusion therefore is that carbon emissions are not the driver of warming and climate change and that the earth is not heading for a climate change apocalypse caused by greenhouse gases.
“All official measures of global temperature show that it peaked in 1998 and has been declining since at least 2002,” says climate change sceptic Bob Carter, a science adviser to the Australian Climate Science Coalition. “And this is in the face of an almost 5 per cent increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide since 1998. Spot the problem?”
A careful analysis of global temperature graphs from each of the measurement agencies confirm that – despite variations between them – there has not been any notable warming since 2000. Depending on which graphs you use, global temperatures since 2000 have been more or less flat. Some, such as the GISS data, show a modest rise, while others show negligible movement and even a small fall in recent years.
Sceptics like to use graphs that date from 1998 because that was the hottest year on record due to El Nino influences and therefore the temperature trends for the decade look flattest when 1998 is the starting point.
But ultimately this is a phony war because most mainstream scientists do not dispute that global temperatures have remained relatively flat during the past decade. Where they differ with the sceptics is on how this outcome should be interpreted.
“The changes in temperature over the past 10 years have basically plateaued,” says Andy Pitman, co-director of the Climate Change Research Centre at the University of NSW. “But scientists did not anticipate a gradual year-by-year warming in temperature. What matters is the long-term trend. This outcome does not change any of the science but it does change the spin climate deniers can put on it.”
The sceptics are having a field day with this trend. The IPA’s Marohasy says: “In the last 10 years we have seen an increase in carbon dioxide levels yet temperatures are coming down. That, if anyone looks at the actual data, is not disputable. Carbon dioxide is not driving temperatures because there are other important climatic factors at play.”
Most scientists are adamant that any assessment of climate change based on only 10 years of data is not only meaningless but reckless.
“From a climate standpoint it is far too short a period to have any significance,” says Amanda Lynch, a climate change scientist at Melbourne’s Monash University. “What we are seeing now is consistent with our understanding of variability between decades. If we hung about for another 30 years and it kept going down, then you might start to think there is something we don’t understand. But the evidence at this point suggests this is not something we should hang around and wait for.”
Climate change scientists say we must go back much further than the past decade and pay attention to the longer-term trend lines that run through the temperature data and clearly trend upwards. Lynch says other factors beyond temperature are also relevant. “In the last 10 years there has been a catastrophic and massive Arctic sea ice retreat. We’ve seen glacial retreat, permafrost thaw and ocean thermal expansion, so temperature is not the whole story.”
But the sceptics are undeterred. “It is widely alleged that the science of global warming is settled,” says the US-based Science and Public Policy Institute. “This implies that all the major scientific aspects of climate change are well understood and uncontroversial. The allegation is profoundly untrue … even the most widely held opinions should never be regarded as an ultimate truth.”
Matthew England, from the Climate Change Research Centre, describes the latest blog war by climate change sceptics as an amazing phenomenon. “Climate change is a robust area of science and there is plenty that is still being debated and new discoveries are still being made,” he says. “It is a topic (that) will keep attracting different opinions from enthusiasts and from bloggers. They are a minority but they are proving to be a very vocal group.”
I was just commenting on this in another post! Australia and New Zealand are losing crops to cold weather right now. If I had waited just two minutes and reloaded the page, I would have put my comment here. You are just too damned good.
Wow, a sane and rational newspaper report on climate.
“Most scientists are adamant that any assessment of climate change based on only 10 years of data is not only meaningless but reckless.
“From a climate standpoint it is far too short a period to have any significance,” says Amanda Lynch, a climate change scientist at Melbourne’s Monash University.”
OK, sounds reasonable but then where is the heat being stored? In the oceans?
The idea of Global warming is a very ridiculous idea. The only people I hear who are worried about global warming are celebrities, wanting to jump on the latest fad, and National Geographic shows that not only claim to know all about global warming, to the tiniest detail, but also about what exactly happened on Earth four trillion years ago. Their statements are just ridiculous.
People who do not see Global Warming as a threat are people who are still concerned with the environment. They seem to have better credentials, they are more professional, and they don’t sound like attention seeking idiots.
Even the term “Global Warming” is ridiculous. People say “It’s hotter than last year.” and think Global warming is involved, but they can have no idea about the actual temperature of the entire globe.
Weather goes through cycles, a few years ago it was really hot in places that we don’t really remember it being that hot. Now it is getting cooler in places than we remember it being cooler.
Maybe it is getting warmer at the polar ice caps. Maybe if the ice melts it will screw up the weather (as we knot it). This might be potentially dangerous. But call it Arctic Warming, or something more specific. Global warming is not happening. The average temperature of the Globe fluctuates up and down about .001 degrees every year. Let’s call it Global Very Slight Temperature Fluctuation.
David Evans’s comment, as referenced above, is just plain false –
“David Evans, former consultant to the Australian Greenhouse Office, says Hansen’s GISS is unreliable because it is the only measurement agency that relies almost wholly on land-based data instead of satellites.”
Anyone else here like to comment on how GISS derives its sea surface temps as compared to the Hadley Centre, for example?
Does the truth really matter, though?
From the article: “Most scientists are adamant that any assessment of climate change based on only 10 years of data is not only meaningless but reckless.”
In the 1970s the media reports were about global cooling (for example, Time magazine June 24, 1974). In 1988 The IPCC was formed with the purpose of assessing “the scientific, technical and socioeconomic information relevant for the understanding of the risk of human-induced climate change” – so in just over 10 years it had been decided that humans were responsible for global warming. Maybe the IPCC was being “reckless”.
See History of the Global Warming Scare for more details of the history.
“Most scientists are adamant that any assessment of climate change based on only 10 years of data is not only meaningless but reckless.”
Does this mean it’s also reckless for journalists to attribute every heat wave to AGW?
Article seems to have a greenish tinge and grudgingly blur the lines between what us bloggers say and what we are supposed to believe. In all it shows we are having some success on getting people to stop and think about the vast aray of AGW messages we are being fed every day. Here in the UK the BBC is terrible , they ran an article on the news today talking about drought/ water supplies and AGW, yet we are having a cold wet summer, the grass is green ,its 16c outside with a gale blowing, the resovoirs are full.
Pure scare and green intimidation
But GISS says the distorting impact of this urban warming is negated because data from these stations is modified to remove these effects and give a true reading.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then why is the raw temperature cooler than the adjusted temperature. Huh?
How come SHAP is a positive adjustment?
Too bad for the NOAA they made the bad mistake of making those USHCN-1 methods public. They learned better for USHCN-2, but the cat is out of the bag.
They don’t release the USHCN-2 graph, of course (they learned better) but if you put it together you find the adjustment for USHCN-2 is 40% higher than USHCN-1.
And GISS uses NOAA adjusted numbers as their raw data.
Yeah, they “modify” it, all right!
I like it the way Hansen measures temperatures from the pit of the 2000 Nina.
To get a true measure you have to
A.) include BOTH the 1998 Nino and 1999/2000 Nina, or,
B.) Exclude both, and measure from 2001.
Pick one.
muddy the waters
Muddying pools. Poisoning wells. Where have we heard that before?
It’s clear that the writer, Cameron Stewart, is heavily sympathetic to the AGW hypothesis. But I’ve seen more biased reporting, so maybe this is an improvement. Still, the article is riddled with inaccuracies.
Stewart accepts it at face value when someone tells him the planet has been warming:
In fact, both GISS and the Hadley Center admit that the has been planet cooling: click
There are similar discrepancies throughout the article. And the author never mentions the 32,000 mainstream scientists who have co-signed the following statement:
The best thing about this article, IMHO, is the backing and filling by the pro-AGW crowd. More cracks are appearing in their facade.
Ok, I’ll answer my own question as posted above. GISS uses satellite data for its SSTs, Hadley uses ship-based measurements. So, David Evans’ assertion is false, yes? Are people on this blog so blinkered that they can’t show the integrity to pick up on a false statement made on the ‘sceptical’ side?
Your comment is approved. What are you complaining about? Besides, the quote is:
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I don’t know the weighting done by Hansen, but there may be a lot hiding in that word “almost”. Especially the way Hansen extrapolates in the Northern Latitudes.
Steven Talbot,
Did David Evans actually say that or is it the reporter’s version of what he said?
Just blinking curious. Speaking of integrity, perhaps you would like to wander over to Climate Audit and comment on the integrity of Caspar Amman and the rest of “the Team.” Good luck with that.
As some have observed this piece has a bias towards the pro AGW agenda but what I thought was that in the end it was very wishy washy and instead of coming to any conclusion it just petered out.
But to be fair “The Australian” is willing to air sceptical pieces where as the Fairfax press (the Age and the Sydney Morning Herald) are much more prone to denounce any scepticism or treat them with derision.
But take heart fellow sceptics our efforts are beginning to make a difference against the tides of unreason, we just have to keep making our points at every opportunity.
jeez –
Hadley uses only ship-based measurements for SSTs. GISS uses only satellite measurements. So what is your point about “almost”? You say you don’t know a lot about GISS weighting – well, if you look it up and compare it to HADcrut you will discover that there is no ‘issue’. There’s no issue either way, it’s straightforwardly a grid-based system.
Dave – David Evans said exactly the same in an earlier article printed in the Australian. It’s simply false, and I think it’s reasonable to wonder how much authority he has to comment on such matters if he can make such a basic error (his relevant job was as a computer programming/modelling consultant. Perhaps it’s not surprising that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about when discussing the temperature records).
It’s not that straightforward. “Almost” all the warming from GISS can be traced to some European and Asian stations in the high northern lattitudes, not SST’s, not North America, not South America, not Africa, not Antarctica (I’m not sure about Australia) and more importantly then extrapolating those anomalous northern temperature readings to the Arctic Ocean and sea ice where there are no stations.
The vast majority of the warming signal is coming from these “pristine”, “high quality” stations that either suffered through the Chinese Cultural revolution, WWII, or Soviet repression in Siberia.
jeez –
sorry, missed a further point regarding your commenting on GISS extrapolating. You’re absolutely right that GISS extrapolates temperatures for the polar regions, both north and south, from the nearest stations, whereas Hadley takes a broader average on these areas where there is no coverage. This is a main reason (there are other also inherent in the different methodologies) to account for the short-term discrepancies between the records. Maybe there’s something to be said for either system. If the polar regions are warming or cooling at rates equivalent to the nearest data points then GISS might be more accurate, if not then vice versa. In the longer term, as you’ll know, there is little between the two data sets (less than there has been between RSS and UAH, for comparison). The real reasons for such discrepancies are maybe less fun than the idea of Hansen fiddling the data, but they’re worth knowing about, IMV.
And Dave again – regarding your point on the ‘Team’ and Climate Audit – it bores me, to be honest. I’m not inclined to think that any paleo data is good enough to be arguing about fractions of a degree. I’m cheerful to think that they were growing wine in England in the MWP (whenever people think it was) – they’ve been growing it for a good while from the last century too! We all wait to see what the future holds, eh? 😉
That statistically small 0.15 C adjustment is 6 years worth of the 0.025 C per year and 10 years of the 0.014 C per year warming. I did find it funny how Amanda Lynch threw in the 30 years. Thirty years from now, she will be able to say she was right because the oceans will have been in their warming phase for around 8 years. — John M Reynolds
Anthony – good article.
This idea of basing conclusions on “10 years” of data is a ridiculous comment in the article, since we have a 30 year satellite dataset to use. And when one uses that to look at the Lower Troposphere Temp. from 1979 – 1997 there is almost no trend. Again, from 1998 – 2007 there is almost no trend. What one does see, when plotting these two trend lines, is a “step up” in temperatures in the post 1998 temperatures vs. the pre-1998 temperatures. A higher plateau, if you will.
If one believes CO2 is driving temperature, how can it possibly explain both this one year “step up” in 1998 (an El Nino year) as well as the lack of trend from ’79 – ’97 and again from ’98-’07?
I have not seen any discussion of this either on “believer” or “skeptic” websites and would appreciate some discussion of this if you feel so inclined.
We are not a very vocal group; our positions are almost never reported in the press radio or TV. What makes our apparent vocalism is logic and fact, not hysterical exaggeration and plain deception.
Australia is currently being impacted by this logic and these facts as The Rudd government is proposing the destruction of the Australian economy to fight global warming and Ozzies aren’t stupid.
The fact that The Australian, a very establishment newspaper, is writing such stuff shows how a tipping point is indeed being reached, but not the one the hysterics a flaunting 🙂
Steven Talbot: Dr David Evans is a scientist with 6 degrees. He has a PHD and two masters from Stanford and a masters and two bachelors from Sydney – in Math/Physics/Statistics and Electrical Engineering.
Dr James E Hansen also has a maths/physics/statistics background and like David Evans has no degree in climatology.
Rocketrefund,
The average temperature of the Globe fluctuates up and down about .001 degrees every year. Let’s call it Global Very Slight Temperature Fluctuation.
In my part of the globe, Ottawa, Canada, the temperature varies every year by 60 Centigrade. The locals wear it as a badge of honour.
This isn’t the first news outlet to raise the specter of falsifications by the so called “Mainstream Scientists.” To me. it indicates some news media types are beginning to understand they’ve been “had” and are positioning themselves for recovery.
But it’s also insteresting to note they still favor the deceivers such as Hansen and hanger-ons.
The “crack” is widening!
Jack Koenig, Editor
The Mysterious Climate Project
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