This is environmentalism jumping the shark:
Click image above to play the game
I don’t know where to begin, except to say that when we see things like this, we should complain loudly and incessantly. The Australian Broadcasting Corporation has crossed a line beyond science, beyond decency, and beyond rational thought.
This is what you get after pressing “start”:
The screen above says: When you’re done, click on the (skull and crossbones) to find out what age you should die at so you don’t use more than your fair share of Earth’s resources!
Hat tip to CallonJim who writes:
This “kids” games at the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. Tell’s kids depending on their magical “carbon footprint” how long they should live?
The actual title is “Professor Schpinkee’s Greenhouse Calculator – find out when you should die!”
The thing I find amazing is the average foot print is 24.6 tonnes of CO2, which calculates out to 9.3 years old! Where it tells the child “YOU SHOULD DIE AT THE AGE 9.3!” Guess what age this kids games is marketed to? That’s right, 9 year olds.
What is most disgusting about this is that ABC ignores their own published Code of Practice
In section 2.12 they talk about content for children:
2.12 Content for Children. In providing enjoyable and enriching content for children, the ABC does not wish to conceal the real world from them. It can be important for the media, especially television, to help children understand and deal with situations which may include violence and danger. Special care should be taken to ensure that content which children are likely to watch or access unsupervised should not be harmful or disturbing to them.
I venture that any child who takes this carbon footprint test “unsupervised” without mommy and daddy around, and who may be old enough to read, but not old enough to understand he/she is being brainwashed by an agenda, would be “disturbed” find they should die at age nine, since just clicking through with default choices gives you that age.
Here is where you can contact the ABC and give them an inbox full of your opinion. This kind of propaganda needs to be removed.
http://www.abc.net.au/contact/contactabc.htm
UPDATE: There is a row developing in the Austrailian press over this.
UPDATE2: The New York Post highlights this site on June 1st with the headline “Enviro Mental Institution“
This is beyond sick and disgusting. I was supposed to die at 11 years old–imagine the nightmares and the long-term developmental issues I’d have if I read that at age 10!
Actually I think it would be fun to offer children’s t-shirts with “According to the ABC, I should have died at 2.2 years” on them. I’d have my 4 month old son in a little one that says “I’ve only got another 1.5 years before ABC says I should die to save the earth”
How about THAT for “consciousness raising”? (Or propaganda as it used to be called)
Mike D., reminds me. At work, the people by the printer keep saying we’re “going green” and limiting printing to 5 pages a day (they’re kidding, they just don’t like the traffic). I tell, we have to give ’em a reason to grow trees.
They keep growin’ trees and sucking CO2 out of the air, and I’ll keep stuffing it in a landfills for ’em. Industrial scale sequestration at a profit.
I *do* hope we can somehow defeat them sometime soon, but get on Daily Kos or Dem. Underground and the situation looks pretty grim.
Those dudes are our best allies, seeing as how they are their own worst enemies. They put their cards on the table and reveal themselves for what they are.
As do these planet-slayer items.
All who believe in this crap please do as you conscience says you should and off yourself when your alloted time is up. Please.
According to this POS I am supposed to die at 2.6 – 53.4 years ago. So, FU, I will not go quietly. Please, please, come and try to send me off this mortal coil, please.
I need the target practice.
F.E.T.E.
Wow. I’m 23 and according to this calculator, I should have passed on 3.5 years ago with my fictional 11.5 Tonnes CFP.
I actually think it makes a really good point… *shields self from pitchforks*
The starving children in Africa emit (comparably) no carbon, yet they’re the ones dying young. Children (or households rather) in affluent/developed/whatever-you-want-to-call-them countries are emitting a lot more carbon and, extenuating circumstances aside, living for ~70 years… A five year old watching their mother die and then starving to death is far more disturbing than this website. But, that said, It’s probably NOT the best idea to tell kids “you use electricity, YOU SHOULD DIE” while not giving or even suggesting alternatives to reduce carbon emissions (or maybe they do).
This is actually exactly the sort of thing I’m studying at university, and one of the biggest problems with ecological footprints (or “carbon” footprints in this case) is that all the blame is placed on the consumer, even children. And yes, consumers emit a large amount of carbon, but that’s because EVERYONE is a consumer.. It would be ideal to have every consumer use less energy and produce less waste, but they aren’t going to if they have easy access to cheap, unlimited energy. And while this kids website is a lot more extreme than other attempts to reduce carbon emissions/energy use, the response has been pretty much entirely negative. I mean, there’s no point in telling children “you’ve used your life’s worth of energy, now you have to die” and then offering them a TV, computer, playstation, gameboy, heating, hot water, toys and whatever else. Try and take all of those things away and adults and children will both kick and scream until they get their way.. which is a big reason why seemingly very little is being done to reduce energy use, people are too affluent and spoilt to give it up.
Anyway I’ll stop ranting.. I can see what the website was trying to do, and I think it’s a good idea, but they went about it the wrong way and probably created some annoying, angry, loud, overly opinionated, ‘climate-change-is-a-myth’ parents.. which in the end is pointless and gives me a headache.
“would not take australians take on global warming seriously: they are by far the most fanatical and misinformed = sheep. They will also be spending the most which will probably collapse their economy by 2030 when global temps will be -30C”
rex, you’re an absolute idiot.
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You can live forever as long as you pay indulgences.
Money can buy anything. Even a reprieve from death.
That’s what the government-funded Australian Broadcasting Corporation is inculcating.
Their models are, like the AGWers’, based on ludicrous assumptions.
Vod: Unless he isn’t. The -30 figure is exaggeration for effect, but it could get an awful lot cooler, even if there is no major solar minimum, when the “big four” multidecadal cycles are all running cold (they all had all been on “hot” since 1995, until the PDO flipped this year).
The CO2 positive feedback formula, the essential IPCC premise, has been dumpered by the AquaSat data. (It was launched to prove AGW. So far it has disproved it.) So don’t expect any significant CO2 warming even if CO2 levels vastly increase.
Vodka :apologies should be -0.5C by 2030
Vdka These are all pro AGW or neutral (called lukewarmers now)…(but run by honest people)
Cryosphere today
AMSU satellite data
UAH
rankexploits
sea ice index (very AGW pro)
Good luck. In the end you may considered a hero.
In the event that the earth continues to cool as it is now for say 2-3 years there may be many organizations, individuals who will be wanting their money back from the initial investment in “Global warming” expect major lawsuits/goverment changes happening then. This is a pointer for the Australian Goverment and tha ABC
Could anyone tell me if my students would get a balanced view from the speakers at this conference in London this summer?
This is the web page for the conference.
http://www.studyexperiences.co.uk/climate_outline_london.html
I know Joan Ruddock, the government minister will spout the usual media responses.
What about the others?
Dr Mark McCarthy, from the Hadley Centre
Prof Ben McGire from the Benfield Hazard Research Centre
Donnachadah McCarthy, Environmental Journalist (related to the Hadley man?)
and Juliet Davenport from Good Energy UK
I suspect that this is the sort of propaganda that deals simplistically with the issues.
Denis
Vodka, even if African kiddies with their ‘near 0 carbon’ played the game they would blow up because they don’t have any money to spend on renewables. The game is rigged that way. Think you need to escape the lefty college and get yourself out into the real world… quickly.
Those who dont pay homage to the church of AGW are now being told they are bad as child abusers by the church of england
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7430684.stm
While going through the Planet Slayer website I wondered how the character Greena Worrier Princess, who looks like a 1960’s hippie retread suffering from a permanent bad hair day with piercing and clothing to match, was designed. When I reviewed the Planet Slayer credits page at http://www.abc.net.au/science/planetslayer/credits.htm there was one person who appears to be responsible for everything (see below), including I am sure making the afternoon cup of tea. That individual is Bernie Hobbs. Who is Bernie Hobbs? A quick search of Google provided the answer.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Bernie+Hobbs%22
Not only do we learn a great deal of information about Ms. Hobbs, we also learn the secrete identity of Greena Worrier Princess.
http://www.abc.net.au/science/bernie/img/bernie.jpg
http://images.tvrage.net/people/66/197936.jpg
I would be willing to bet the most of you though Greena Worrier Princess was fictional!
Not since Leni Riefenstahl has the world had so great a talent.
Mike
A List Of As Yet Unindicted Co-Conspirators
Credits
Content Director, Producer – Bernie Hobbs, ABC Science Online
Art Director – Bek Farr, Nectarine
Technical Director – Minty Hunter, Nectarine
Animation Director – Kate Cawley, Nectarine
Programming – Mike Pearce, Matthew Simpson, Nectarine
Animators – Steve Piscopo, Kate Cawley, Nectarine
Production Manager – Sasha Cunningham, Nectarine
Kylie Andrews – Producer, ABC Science Online
Ian Allen – Editor, ABC New Media
Amelia King – Mgr, Digital Media Fund, Film Victoria
Domenic Friguglietti – Mgr, Comm. & Co-Prodns, ABC New Media
Natalie Lapham, Jane Doyle – Accord Fund Managers, ABC New Media
Lisa Mitchell – Mgr, Marketing, ABC New Media
Carolyn MacDonald – Marketing, ABC New Media
Frankie Lee – Science Event Producer, ABC New Media
Thanks to: Moira Hogan, Julie Ramsden, Anthony Willis, Sebastien Maury, Rebecca Graham, Jacqueline Foord, Tina McIntosh, Eleni Bertes, David Tiley, Josie Favasuli.
Planet Slayer… another Bernie Hobbs concept.
THIS IS YOUR LIFESTYLE QUIZ
Content Director – Bernie Hobbs, ABC Science Online
Art Director – Bek Farr, Nectarine
Technical Director – Minty Hunter, Nectarine
Animation Director – Kate Cawley, Nectarine
Programming – Matthew Simpson, Minty Hunter, Nectarine
Animators – Steve Piscopo, Kate Cawley, Nectarine
Voice – Fiona Stafford, Kate Cawley, Nectarine
Production Manager – Sasha Cunningham, Nectarine
Greenhouse consultant – Dr Manfred Lenzen, School of Physics, The University of Sydney
Greenhouse consultant – Alan Pears, Sustainable Solutions, Melbourne
2 MINUTE GREENHOUSE CALCULATOR
Content Director – Bernie Hobbs, ABC Science Online
Art Director – Bek Farr, Nectarine
Technical Director – Minty Hunter, Nectarine
Programming – Minty Hunter, Matthew Simpson, Nectarine
Animators – Steve Piscopo, Kate Cawley, Nectarine
Sound – Markus Kellow, Nectarine
Production Manager – Sasha Cunningham, Nectarine
Greenhouse consultant – Alan Pears, Sustainable Solutions, Melbourne
Greenhouse consultant – Dr Manfred Lenzen, School of Physics, The University of Sydney
PLANET SLAYER – THE GAME
Content Director – Bernie Hobbs, ABC Science Online
Art Director – Bek Farr, Nectarine
Technical Director – Minty Hunter, Nectarine
Programming – Marcus Bennett, Nectarine
Design – Mike Pearce, Nectarine
Animators – Steve Piscopo, Kate Cawley, Nectarine
Sound – Markus Kellow, Nectarine
Production Manager – Sasha Cunningham, Nectarine
GREENHOUSE FACTOIDS
Content Director – Bernie Hobbs, ABC Science Online
Greenhouse consultant – Alan Pears, Sustainable Solutions, Melbourne
GREENHOUSE Q&A
Content Director – Bernie Hobbs, ABC Science Online
Produced with the assistance of Film Victoria’s Digital Media Fund –
The Digital Media Fund is funded by Multimedia Victoria as part of the Victorian Government’s Connecting Victoria policy, which aims to bring the benefits of technology to all Victorians.
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ABC – FILM VICTORIA MULTIMEDIA PRODUCTION ACCORD
Vodka: “The starving children in Africa emit (comparably) no carbon, yet they’re the ones dying young. ”
Lack of improved technology is why children in Africa die young. While “learned” ideologists and Gaia worshipers blame humans for Earth’s supposed demise, it is technological advances that have enabled us all to live longer, more healthful and interesting lives. That is what intelligent species do.
I know this isnt the place but i couldnt find an email address for you, the latest news in the uk papers is
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1023545/People-dont-care-climate-change-bad-dungeon-father-Fritzl-claims-Bishop.html
An Anglican Bishop has compared people who fail to take action to prevent global warming to the Austrian man who allegedly locked his daughter in a cellar for 24 years, repeatedly raping her and fathering seven of her children.
The Bishop of Stafford, Gordon Mursell, said that by failing to face up to the truth about climate change, we were – like Josef Fritzl – denying our children a future.
Hows that, maybe you can post something. we are worse than serial child rapists
I don’t know what they’re teaching you at your uni., Vodka, but it sounds like a lot of leftist ideology, and not much in the way of science or common sense. C02 not only doesn’t drive climate change, but is beneficial, as it increases plant growth, meaning more food available. The some 100 ppm increase of the past century (of which man has contributed only about 3%) is responsible for about a 15% increase in plant growth. C02 increases as a result of warming, not the other way around. The sun is what drives climate change, and we are very likely headed for (if not already in) a significant cooling period similar to the LIA. For some actual science, try this site: Editorial: The Great Global Warming Hoax?.
The global warming stupidity has gone on long enough – we need to stop whinging and take action – whether its writing to advertisers boycotting the media that publishes rubbish, to making formal and legal complaints against the likes of Bernie Hobbs, to taking legal action against the likes of Al Gore – unless we stand up and do something this nonsense will continue to proliferate.
Anyone live over the age of 25? according to this nope.
rex – i was actually referring to the first sentence of your comment… (the offensive slur) you might as well say all americans are like the Westboro Baptist Church while you’re at it (and sheep references are generally related to new zealand)
cait – i dont recall ever saying the game was good or accurate, i said it had a point, rather than being pointless ‘lefty propoganda’… and I bet a lot of mothers in third world countries would love to see their children live past 9. Also, i think you should stop randomly dubbing things lefty.
tom – technological advances have allowed some of us to live healthy interesting lives, and forced those who didn’t to a life of poverty and disease.. and now there aren’t enough resources on earth to accommodate the ‘average american’ lifestyle (not picking on americans that’s just what most of these sort of things are compared to). We’d need about 6 earth’s worth of resources to give everyone the ‘average american’ lifestyle and about another 6 to safely deal with the waste and pollution (which is an assumption OF COURSE, but the point is it isn’t sustainable on ONE earth).
I don’t see why this should cause an argument, I don’t think the game is good or accurate.. I just think its stupid to generalise all australians or ecologists based on a kid’s quiz. The quiz is making a good point, but VERY badly. I don’t think you should ignore or oppose the point because it was made badly. Maybe a good alternative would be to research things like ecological footprints and explain it to your children in a better way than “this is when you’re should die”?
rex – i was actually referring to the first sentence of your comment… (the offensive slur) you might as well say all americans are like the Westboro Baptist Church while you’re at it (and sheep references are generally related to new zealand)
cait – i dont recall ever saying the game was good or accurate, i said it had a point, rather than being pointless ‘lefty propoganda’… and I bet a lot of mothers in third world countries would love to see their children live past 9. Also, i think you should stop randomly dubbing things lefty.
tom – technological advances have allowed some of us to live healthy interesting lives, and forced those who didn’t to a life of poverty and disease.. and now there aren’t enough resources on earth to accommodate the ‘average american’ lifestyle (not picking on americans that’s just what most of these sort of things are compared to). We’d need about 6 earth’s worth of resources to give everyone the ‘average american’ lifestyle and about another 6 to safely deal with the waste and pollution (which is an assumption OF COURSE, but the point is it isn’t sustainable on ONE earth).
I don’t see why this should cause an argument, I don’t think the game is good or accurate.. I just think its stupid to generalise all australians or ecologists based on a kid’s quiz. The quiz is making a good point, but VERY badly. I don’t think you should ignore or oppose the point because it was made badly. Maybe a good alternative would be to research things like ecological footprints and explain it to your children in a better way than “this is when you’re should die”?
rex – i was actually referring to the first sentence of your comment… (the offensive slur) you might as well say all americans are like the Westboro Baptist Church while you’re at it (and sheep references are generally related to new zealand)
cait – i dont recall ever saying the game was good or accurate, i said it had a point, rather than being pointless ‘lefty propoganda’… and I bet a lot of mothers in third world countries would love to see their children live past 9. Also, i think you should stop randomly dubbing things lefty.
tom – technological advances have allowed some of us to live healthy interesting lives, and forced those who didn’t to a life of poverty and disease.. and now there aren’t enough resources on earth to accommodate the ‘average american’ lifestyle (not picking on americans that’s just what most of these sort of things are compared to). We’d need about 6 earth’s worth of resources to give everyone the ‘average american’ lifestyle and about another 6 to safely deal with the waste and pollution (which is an assumption OF COURSE, but the point is it isn’t sustainable on ONE earth).
I don’t see why this should cause an argument, I don’t think the game is good or accurate.. I just think its stupid to generalise all australians or ecologists based on a kid’s quiz. The quiz is making a good point, but VERY badly. I don’t think you should ignore or oppose the point because it was made badly. Maybe a good alternative would be to research things like ecological footprints and explain it to your children in a better way than “this is when you’re should die”?
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