Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Arnold Schwarzenegger has received over 100,000 likes, for a Facebook post about the alleged benefits of renewables, which included a fantasy about people who choose petrol powered cars spending an hour with the car of their choice, locked in a sealed room with the engine running, without a gas mask.
From Arnold’s post;
I don’t give a **** if we agree about climate change.
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Renewable energy is great for the economy, and you don’t have to take my word for it. California has some of the most revolutionary environmental laws in the United States, we get 40% of our power from renewables, and we are 40% more energy efficient than the rest of the country. We were an early-adopter of a clean energy future.
Our economy has not suffered. In fact, our economy in California is growing faster than the U.S. economy. We lead the nation in manufacturing, agriculture, tourism, entertainment, high tech, biotech, and, of course, green tech.
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There are two doors. Behind Door Number One is a completely sealed room, with a regular, gasoline-fueled car. Behind Door Number Two is an identical, completely sealed room, with an electric car. Both engines are running full blast.
I want you to pick a door to open, and enter the room and shut the door behind you. You have to stay in the room you choose for one hour. You cannot turn off the engine. You do not get a gas mask.
I’m guessing you chose the Door Number Two, with the electric car, right? Door number one is a fatal choice – who would ever want to breathe those fumes?
Read more: https://www.facebook.com/notes/arnold-schwarzenegger/i-dont-give-a-if-we-agree-about-climate-change/10153855713574658
Schwarzenegger is wrong about renewables being “great for the economy” – as WUWT reported back in May, the cost of energy in California is having a significant impact on jobs, and is contributing to decisions by many businesses to relocate to Texas. This has become such an issue, that Californian Democrats who represent poor, working class areas recently mutinied against Governor Brown’s efforts to introduce tougher CO2 emissions targets, and sided with Republicans to defeat the bill.
But its the fantasy about people being gassed which really bothers me. The green movement has a growing track record of utterly grotesque, even murderous fantasies, and hysterical calls for their opponents to be persecuted. It seems sad that someone of Arnold Schwarzenegger’s stature felt a need to add to this perversity.
Note from Anthony:
It appears the great musclehead mind has confused Carbon Monoxide, and Carbon Dioxide, something I’m no stranger to via threat from one of my own local nuts eco-activists, Sherri Quammen: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/03/22/letters-i-get-letters/
Ahnold and Sherri, they are both of the same caliber of thought.
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Arnold didn’t get to where he is now because of his intelligence.
That’s a fact lost on most. Arnold is a “good looking guy”. That’s it. After watching his performances I’d agree he has talent.
Is he a person ready and able to take over control of California? Not it my opinion. But neither is Governor Moonbeam. These are our choices.
Why does that sour the stomach? And what about Governor Moonbeam?
It’s not in the cards. There is no “easy” way out of this mess. I surely wish there were, because I have no desire whatsoever to experience the inevitable consequence of indecision.
Arnold is a “good looking guy” !!!
Are you wearing beer goggles ??
Well, he WAS. Now he’s ‘distinguished looking’ ^¿^
I am slightly disturbed that someone from Austria, likes to think of gassing people because of their dissenting views! Where will it all end with attitudes like that? He needs to be careful unless somebody makes a similar analogy!
Here is an electric plane. How about Arnie put his money where is mouth is and start flying around in this:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/8C8E005F-59D4-43C1-81F71079A509366A.jpg
Now he’s ‘distinguished looking’ ^¿^
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A opposed to a philanderer that humped the maid?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/11/article-2578421-1C322BAD00000578-102_634x898.jpg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NgBpiUimP-w
1 hydrogen powered and the remainder gas with numerous Hummers
Well, some of your fellow citizens voted for him. Perhaps folks should all ask whether being a gun-toting gym freak really qualifies you to be a thoughtful and high quality law maker??
Most Republicans who voted for him were hoping for another Reagan.
Much of america lives within the fantasy paradigm of Hollywood. Actors are natural leaders for these people. Were J W Boothe born in this age he would have had the opportunity to defeat the president at the polls rather than with a gun.
Probably not but then again he was running against a Democrat so big biceps make you more qualified than some Moonbeam type.
How about Arnie goes first? Lock himself in a room with his private jet with the engines running.
Because this sure looks like a case of the pot calling the kettle black. It appears he wants to gas the rest of us, leaving himself free to fly around in his private jet, without having to be bothered with the “little people”. The “Ultimate” solution. Not the first Austrian to propose this.
http://www.privatejetcharter.co.uk/private-jet-blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/arnold1.jpg
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Hey, he called a motor and engine…..knows his stuff!!
40% and 40$? I’d love to see any verification of either number.
Arnold? Steroids! . 40% from renew’s and 40% more energy efficient? Well I guess when the power is off 40% of the time Arnold it just may to your steroid addled brain that you are more “efficient”. You yourself on the other aren’t part of the crowd that actually lives without power !
100,000 likes ? How many idiots are there ?
They voted early and often.
Arnold Weisenheimer…Proving P. T. Barnum correct
George
You asked: -100,000 likes ? How many idiots are there ?
Well, shedloads, obviously.
Given a world population of >7,300,000,000 (ish)
! maybe your answer is ~ 1% or > 1% . . . .
Maybe a bit higher, too . . . . . . . .
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Northern California get it’s power mostly from hydro electric dams, most of them owned by PG&E. It’s only Southern California that has to import coal power from other states.
But Arnie forgot that hydro is not a ‘Real Renewable’ so does not count. Got to be pure.
The renewable energy portfolio published by the state includes hydroelectric and geothermal ( http://energyalmanac.ca.gov/renewables/). I’m willing to bet biomass, wind and solar account for a small fraction of that mix.
40% and 40%. Sorry.
According to Wikipedia, California, as a percentage of total energy used, has only 20% renewable. As a percentage of total energy produced (they import some), generates only 30% from renewables.
Just wondering, does the “Arnold” speak “Austrian” ? Maybe gassing people that disagree is a natural tendency in that part of the world ?
Sorry, but he brought it up…
Cheers, KevinK
Kevin, in his case maybe, since he has spent much of his life outside of Austria. Your insinuation is low none the less and you should apologise to Austrians at large.
Streetcred said “you should apologise to Austrians at large”. Why, are the rest imprisoned ?
Meh! Is that 13 behind your name your age?
40%?? – more like 4% just sayin…
I think he is confusing installed name plate rating (“capacity”) and % of energy actually supplied. Assuming that after deducting broken, burning, derelict and badly located or disconnected windmills, the delivery is about 1/10th of nameplate. That brings the 40% and 4% into agreement.
If they get the same as the UK, then it is 5%. Yippie ding. The people who don’t know the difference between the rated capacity and actual output usually don’t know the difference between KW and KWH. Similarly the difference between form and substance escapes them. They see the windmill’s form and assume that is also its substance.
The glitter of pinwheels and mirrors like landscape bling.
An extension of tattooing and pierced body jewelry with gold teeth to look sophisticated.
[??? Unapproved. At least until I can figure this one out. .mod]
sorry, my reference was to Crispin’s comment about all form and no function. I call wind and solar devices ‘pinwheels and mirrors’ and find them similar in their aesthetic acceptance to cosmetic modifications of the human form.
It certainly has nothing to do with the fact that most imports pass through California from the Far East nor anything to do with Silicon Valley and Hollywood. (both of which are actively working to create a two tiered state of inequality…)
To clarify, the adoption of so-called ‘renewables’ as a tax write-off is right up their alley (Bill Gates et al) in their fairly open agenda to widen the class gap within the state of California which has the worst record of inequality:
https://www.google.com/search?q=california+inequality&gws_rd=ssl
Oh yes! Members of California’s Green Gentry. Stick all the wind turbines and solar panels in areas where poor Californians live.
@Barbara
Exactly,
And who ends up paying the taxes for those who fund these ‘green’ tax-write offs?
Us peasants.
newgeography, Oct.28, 2013
‘Fixing California: The Green Gentry’s Class Warfare’
“Primarily, the modern-day program of class warfare is carried out under the banner of green politics.”
http://www.newgeography.com/content/004013-fixing-california-the-green-gentry-s-class-warfare
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Schwartzenadulterer: “Hi, Maria? I can’t pick you up at the airport. The housekeeper and I are …. uh…..saving us about 40% on our electric bill by installing a windmill in the backyard. Aaand…. that makes our household 40% better than everyone else in the neighborhood.”
Maria: Oh. Okay. I guess I can buy that.
GO TO START (Repeat Until “Year” = 15; THEN End.)
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Well. Now we know. People who approve of committing adultery** also approve of murder. Meh, whatever. We’ve known THAT since David and Bathsheba (and no doubt long, long, before that).
**who ELSE would fraternize with that scumbag?
Tell this leftard numpce to go first – and to take a deep, deep breath! We don’t drive cars in containment rooms, ugly arnold! And if we were measuring his carbon footprint, he’d be the one with the biggest! Such a jerk doesn’t deserve free press.
Labeling Schwarzenegger a “leftard” is a real stretch. Arnold was a two term “Republican” governor of California. Arnold used the term “Girlie men” to characterize democrats in the state legislature of California who opposed his conservative state budget proposals.
All throughout his career, Schwarzenegger credited President Ronald Reagan as a personal inspiration. Schwarzenegger once stated, “I became a citizen of the United States when [Reagan] was president, and he is the first president I voted for as an American citizen. He inspired me and made me even prouder to be a new American.”
The “leftard” label is just plain fantasy.
I am truly disappointed with all this hate filled dialogue displayed here at WUWT. It’s really low class.
How did such a total moron get to be governor? He doesn’t seem to have a clue about about basic principles of math, economics, or science.
Arnold used the term “Girlie men”
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And this isn’t “hate filled”? Get off your high horse. Anyone that proposes we kill everyday citizens to solve problems, that uses homophobia to advance his own agenda, that person warrants criticism in the strongest possible terms.
Can anyone be certain that Arnold’s behavior is not the result of steroid abuse during his body building years? Reportedly he had admitted to using steroids. Where there is smoke there is fire.
Are you drunk? Arnold does not “propose” killing anyone.
The term “girlie men” is hate speech? LMAO. The term was coined in a series of Saturday Night Live comedy sketches in which Dana Carvey and Kevin Nealon played bodybuilders named Hans and Franz, large men with Austrian accents. Hans and Franz labeled their weak opponents “girlie men”. It was biting humor, not hate speech.
skepticgonewild,
People change, you know. Arnold’s motivation: he craves being liked. He is surrounded by phony Hollywood types who know how to manipulate people like him.
We see the result here…
Bruce Cobb:
To answer your question: Arnold got to be Governor because Gov. Gray Davis was booted out by the voters in the middle of his term. There were about 25 candidates to fill the vacancy, and except for the clown Cruz Bustamante, the others were unknowns.
Arnold used his star power like other politicians use incumbency and name recognition. He won pretty easily. And that is how California got a moron Governor.
Being a Republican is not proof that one is a conservative, especially in CA.
CA gets about 1/3rd of its electricity from other states.
Those states should pull the plug.
Our good host Anthony would probably disagree from a practical standpoint of keeping this blog running.
Our host is based in CA, but I don’t know where the blog itself is hosted.
Don’t think so. I just grin at the thought of the revenue earned by those states because of California’s weird and wonderful energy policies. 🙂
Gassing people with CO combined with Hansen’s Coal Trains of Death, chilling imagery.
We note here for historical interest that loading a school bus up with “defectives” and driving it around with the exhaust routed to the passenger compartment was a first attempt at the Final Solution.
The technique was discarded as wasteful of valuable motor fuel and a more economical source of a poison gas was sought.
I no longer doubt that there are people today who would load the opposition into the cattle cars.
If I used my 1992 Ford truck in that room I would be OK because the results of it’s last emissions test a month ago showed my truck had 0ppm of CO at idle. Aren’t catalytic converters wonderful. A member of my family was also confused about CO2 and CO. At Thanksgiving dinner I tried to correct his mistake but I don’t think I was entirely successful. When I look around me I seem to be the only person that paid any attention during science class.
Yes, I’ve read that it’s impossible now to commit suicide with modern car exhausts–the catalytic converters scrub all the CO.
I was trying to put down a rabbit last year. I got some advice from my family member who is a farmer. He told me that when he had to put down cats, he would put them in their carrying cage in a cardboard box attached to the tail pipe of his truck. The animal would just go to sleep from the CO1 in a very humane manner. When I tired it with my rabbit, it didn’t. After an hour it was totally fine and happy (other then the sickness which is why I was putting it down). My car had almost no CO1. I ended up having to spring $150 to have the vet do it, it a much less humane way (injection in a ‘scary’ clinic).
Arnalds theory would only work if the car actually used all the O2 in the room.
I’ll suggest that Arnold take a dose of his own medicine, and spend an hour in that room with the engine of his tank running.
Well, the guy is German you know. Final solution and all that.
Please don’t judge all Germans. I am half German and am NOT proud of that branch of the family. My Mom who was raised in Germany during the Hitler regime idolizes him, refuses to hear a bad word said against him and doesn’t understand why I don’t do the same.
Dear Jesus Didn’t Give up on Me,
“Fear not! For behold, I bring you good tidings … .” #(:))
There are MANY of us (I think it is most, but, I don’t have enough data, heh) on WUWT who distinguish Germans (and Japanese) per se from N@z1s and r@cist / Imperialist Japanese (past and present — in whatever country their ilk occupy). One of my best friends is a German woman. The only prejudice I have about Germans (at least I’m conscious of it!) is that they tend to take literally what is intended to be sarcastic humor. I like their earnestness, though. And I have positive prejudices, too: they make loyal friends; they try very hard to do a good job at whatever they are doing; and they love dogs and natural beauty and beautiful music.
Your heritage is a fine one: great music, great science, and … (ahem) not food in general (imo), but! great BAKED goods (smile) and more came to the world thanks to Germans.
And many of those great Germans were JEWS, I hasten to add (just for the benefit of all the anti-Sem1tes out there).
Glad you are here!
And I LIKE YOUR NAME — yes, indeed: where would millions of us be if Jesus had given up on us?
Merry Christmas!! (and Happy Hannukah — day 2 today) — and nobody cares about Kwanzaahahahah (that has NOTHING to do with being of African heritage btw — most African-Americans think Kwaaaanzuuuuh is ridiculous)!
Janice
P.S. Pipe up more often. Your anomalous family background (well, you know what I mean by “anomalous” I think?) give you a perspective on some issues which most of us do not have. Share!
#(:))
Re: piping up, JDGUOM: don’t sweat typos. A typo give you humility. 😉
The best German culture is what they put in the beer.
That’s what make them a real country…
http://vinylzart.com/shop/images/P/pi_1069.jpeg
Au contraire Janice (about Kwanzaa)
Kwanzaa is a version of the word Incwala which is the first fruits celebration held in SE Southern Africa including Swaziland where it is a huge deal. The nation gathers at Lobamba and dances with the royal family, which hosts it. No loafing around – everyone there participates, tens of thousands of them. Bring a straight stick with no knob on the end as it is essential to the dancing.
Incwala is a SiSwati word and the ‘c’ is a *click*. I cringe when I give this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swaziland because it has so many errors – it can’t even get the head of the nation right (it says ‘king’ but in reality it is his mother the ‘Indlovukati’ (She-Elephant). Anyway…
It says, “…ncwala, the kingship dance held in December/January…” It is not a ‘kingship dance’. Don’t use the BBC for your information, I say, but anyway there it is – at least one link confirming that the ceremony, which was common to all Bantu peoples from Uganda down to South Africa did indeed exist and carries on ins some quarters. It is quite possible it can fall on Christmas day.
The ceremony thanks the Creator for the first of the new crop and the end of the most deprived period of food insecurity between October and December. The ceremony is held sometime between the third week of December and the first week of January, according to the moon, i.e. the timing is lunar. During this period the Ngwenyama (called the king in English) goes into seclusion for a month to retire from the world and follow the incantations of old. His father Sobhuza II had all these ceremonies documented in great detail in the 1930’s by an anthropologist in order that they not be lost.
Kwanzaa is probably spelled Kwanza in most transliterations, having a quite ordinary pronunciation: kwAn-zah. The addition of the click in Incwala or Ncwala is because of the adoption centuries ago of a number of sounds from the San people through marriage and mingling.
“Janice Moore
December 8, 2015 at 8:49 pm”
Germans, and the French, simply do not get British sarcasm or humour. We may have bad teeth and food…but at least we can have a good rid tickling laugh about it.
“Richard Keen
December 8, 2015 at 10:05 pm”
And as far as I know Germany has very VERY tough laws regarding beer making. And possibly sausage making too…but I am not a fan of German sausage. (And I am SURE it’s nothing like Ireland…trust me…I have made them there).
Germans, and the French, simply do not get British sarcasm or humour.
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Germany officially the world’s least funny country
“Now an international poll appears to reinforce the humourless national stereotype after concluding that Germany is the least funny country in the world.
More than 30,000 people in 15 countries were asked to rank the nations with the worst sense of humour and Germany came out on top.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/8560815/Germany-officially-the-worlds-least-funny-country.html
To: Crispin in Waterloo (re: you at 11:32pm last night)
“… in SE Southern Africa including Swaziland {Kwanzaa} is a huge deal … .”
However, in the U.S., Kwanzaa is mostly just mocked. It has become P.C. in December to wish a “Happy this” and a “Happy that.” I guess you would have to grow up and live most of your life in the U.S. to get why we laugh about it.
To clarify my writing to make myself more clear to you and others:
“… {In the United States,} nobody cares about Kwanzaahahahah ({and whether you do or not} has NOTHING to do with being of African heritage {or not} btw — most African-Americans think Kwaaaanzuuuuh is ridiculous)!
Good for you to so valiantly defend all those who DO care fervently about Kwanzaa.
Sigh.
Arnold is not German. He was born in Austria.
So was you-know-who
Austrians speak German and historically, as part of the Holy Roman Empire of German Nations, considered themselves to be Germans. But they were no longer a part of the German Confederation after the Austro-Prussian War of 1866.
noaaprogrammer says: Austrians speak German…
Das ist richtig. But, as KevinK hinted a while ago, our chief exec thinks they speak….
… Austrian!
He probably got that information from his secretary of state.
Wonder what they speak in Kyrsakhstan?
Kerry …Kyrsakhstan…
Hmmm… Having just completed a journey to Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan I can understand his slip of both lips.
Ja, Der “Big AH” was an Austrian. Regardless, this calls for a cartoon.
Jim, you are an idiot … there are many here of German and Austrian origin… do you say we all have that tendency? Eugenicists are not confined to Europe.
He’s Austrian, not German. I don’t think he’s stupid, he’s just a big opportunist!
I thought he was Austrian
Arnold is Austrian!
Similarly, perhaps Arnold should be forced to spend an hour in a room with the exhaust from a coal, oil, or gas fired generating plant, which is where most of his electricity comes from.
Or a nuke. Or tied to a windmill blade. Or at the focal point of a solar collector. Or going over Hoover Dam. Or in a geothermal hot spring. Or in a hamster cage.
Technically speaking if he was to follow the generation path he should go through the Hoover Dam not over it. 🙂 Much more painful. :-0
Matt…
Through the turbines! Damn, why didn’t I think of that?
Perhaps. But even if we had a tube from the exhaust that somehow removed just all CO, the CO2 would build up until the oxygen was reduced to 15% from 21% and the car would stop running. Humans cannot be too active in an atmosphere of 15% oxygen and huge amounts of CO2.
I hear that car’s cataclysmic convertors oxidize CO so well that you can’t die of carbon monoxide poisoning from them. From a tailpipe test on my car, the machine reported 0.0% CO, IIRC. While there could still be quite a bit of CO, it would get oxidized in the next trip through the engine and convertor.
However, death by lack of oxygen is just as fatal.
Typing on your “smart” phone, eh (smile), Ric? Don’t worry — you have written far too many brainy things for your phone to be able to sabotage your reputation for excellent thinking. My dumb phone tries to “help” me (thanks a lot, PHONE — not) all the time. Told someone to head up “Hey 101” {Hwy should be “hey” you know}…. almost (whew!) signed my name “James”… who knows what I’ve written that I DIDN’T catch … . People understand how catalytic convertors get “corrected” to cataclysmic. Say, that shows that you have used a LOT of sophisticated words on that phone! My phone after my basic messages would have turned “catalytic” into “Cathy.” There! Even your auto-corrections prove how brainy you are!
Death by carbon monoxide is exactly death by lack of oxygen. Painless, by the way.
Death by thermal runaway of the electric car batteries would be a different story.
Mike M – good point. Without cooling the motor would overheat and either seize (invalidating the experiment) or explode and take the batteries with it. It is very easy to set off a lithium ion battery with one piece of shrapnel.
People in cars in garages die from CO2 overload. They turn pink from the CO but the vast majority of the emissions are CO2 and water vapour.
You would die quicker in a sealed room full of Greens than in a sealed room with a car.
Obviously we should ban Greens.
I worked for a company called EDS here in Australia. It was taken over (Sold out to) Hewlett Packard in 2009. Many many people were made redundant. One guy, who is famed for devising the school zone speed signs for roads, sat in his car in the carpark and tried to unburden himself with the engine on. Of course medical staff were called and the building was in lockdown. He is “Ok” as far as I know.
I love the cataclysmic autocorrection.
@ur momisuglyCrispin
That is absolutely false, people die of CO poisoning when running a car in a garage.
@ur momisuglyRic Werme
When O2 drops a little bit, it reduces the efficiency of the car increasing CO output beyond what the catalytic converter can deal with.
@ur momisugly Mike McMillan
“Death by carbon monoxide is exactly death by lack of oxygen. ”
But by completely different mechanism. CO in the blood stream displaces oxygen in binding to blood cells. So CO is magnitudes of order more dangerous than CO2. But in nature, it reacts quickly so it does not build up. Unlike a garage.
Well, that’s when you play it smart and bring 50 or so pothos with you to scrub and oxygenate the air with. Pothos are great at that even with little to no direct sun lighting and I’m pretty positive the extra CO2 will make them grow nearly out of control.
So yeah, go ahead an send me into the chamber. I might start up an oxygen bar while I’m in there and walk out high:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_bar
the CO2 would build up until the oxygen was reduced to 15% from 21% and the car would stop running.
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cars and people both turn oxygen into CO2. so there is no difference is you are locked in a room with a car or not. unless there is a supply of air entering the room you will die. even if the car is electric.
The car engine requires a higher level of O2 to run than we do. The engine would stop and leave enough O2 to last a human a long time depending on the size of the room. The CO2 levels would be high and O2 levels low but as long as you didn’t exercise too intensely you should be able to last an hour.
Are you asserting that mans 4% contribution, will cause CO2 to jump from 0.04% to 6.0+%. I doubt would not be able to do that if we burnt all know sources at once.
If a small room is 100% air tight, and if a man or a car are in there long enough and are emitting CO2, then CO2 can climb to 6% or higher. After a while, the man is longer inhaling 0.04% CO2 but more like 4% CO2 and a slightly larger % going out.
someone picks door #2…..goes in and shuts the door
…and the car blows up
You’ve been watching too many Woody Allen movies, Lat.
What is it with Germanic people of a certain age and gassing people?
You can take the child of Third Reich out of the Third Reich, but you can’t take the Third Recih out of the child.
Come on. Let’s be fair about this. Austria was INVADED by NAZI Germany in 1938. You are way out of line and misinformed.
Arnold’s Dad was a Nazi, so gassing us just comes naturally to him.
You try and read your history better. The part about where the founder of the ruling party was from Austria, and how many Austrians gladly assisted with and supported the “unification” of Germany and Austria.
hunter,
The majority of Austrians were against unification with Germany. Chancellor Schuschnigg capitulated to Hit-ler to avoid the shedding of Austrian blood. They were no match for the Third Reich’s armies. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschluss]
By drawing a comparison between Hit-ler and Schwarzenegger, you are worse than the hate-mongering warmists who hurl the invective epithet “Den1er” at skeptics,
By drawing a comparison between Hit-ler and Schwarzenegger
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Arnie drew the comparison himself, by proposing a solution that involves gassing people. People that live in glass houses should not throw stones.
They may have been technically invaded, but the Germans were welcomed by a very sizeable fraction of the population.
Hunter,
Arnold was born in Austria. Austria was INVADED by the Third Reich in 1938. Please learn some history.
I see you nicely solved the moderation of “Naz1,” SKW. Just FYI for WUWT commenters in general, you can usually spell out the “bad” words using other symbols in parts or adding spaces and the like. Heh, one the mod-erator was so harried that he or she left up all THREE of my attempts to solve the riddle (only the third one made it up without first hitting the spam bin). So, there’s a thread (or two!) out there where I appear to have repeated {And AGAIN, I SAY… almost exactly the same thing the same thing} myself needlessly (eye roll). Just have to laugh.
Some dude with a funny moustache was also born in Austria, if I recall correctly. Perhaps Arnold should grow one?
Same place where Hitler was born, huh?
That paper hanger/painter was born in Austria.
What was that about learning history?
Pot – kettle.
“…Austria was INVADED…” Wasn’t it first subverted, then, responding to an invitation, occupied then annexed by Germany?
‘Please learn some history’, well said!
Crispin stated, “Wasn’t it first subverted, then, responding to an invitation, occupied then annexed by Germany?”
It was complicated. The Chancellor of Austria, Schuschnigg, was dead set against Germany annexing
Austria, and had set a date for a referendum to allow Austria to vote on whether to retain their independence. The Fuhrer sent in troops before that referendum could take place. (http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/triumph/tr-austria.htm)
But the point I was trying to make is that it is unfair to vilify Schwarzenegger with comparisons to “you know who” from 30’s Germany.
“Joe Prins
December 8, 2015 at 9:06 pm”
He shaved it that way so that a gas mask would fit.
unfair to vilify Schwarzenegger with comparisons
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nothing unfair about pointing out similarities as a means of predicting behavior. for example: you are walking down a street late at night in a tough part of town. A little old lady steps into your path. Is she likely to be trying to rob you? What if instead of a little old lady it was three hard looking men that stepped into your path?
While our governments would call this profiling, and would somehow suggest that you cannot predict behavior from profiling, that it is somehow unfair, most anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that everyone uses profiling to predict behavior all the time.
Rogue (Gone Wild) Skeptic:
You (Dec, 8, 2041): “Arnold is not German. He was born in Austria.”
{http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/12/08/ugly-arnold-schwarzeneggers-gas-chamber-fantasy-for-skeptics/#comment-2091272}
You (Dec. 9, 0216): “… the point I was trying to make is that it is unfair to vilify Schwarzenegger with comparisons to “you know who” from 30’s Germany.
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History Lesson (from several commenters on this thread to YOU): H1tler is not “from 30’s Germany” — his native land is Austria.
THE POINT IS THE PARALLEL (an intriguing coincidence to most of us):
“Born in Austria in 1889, Adolf H1tler rose to power in German politics … .”
(Source: http://www.biography.com/people/adolf-h i .. tler-9340144)
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Why is Schwarzenadulterer’s reputation so important to you that you would spend so much time zealously defending him? That is what intrigues me at the moment… .
BTW…where are all the liberals…screaming their heads off
..because of the gas chamber reference
Bingo, apparently liberals are not really liberals anymore.
Liberals just right and wrong based solely on whether they benefit or not.
judge, not just.
And this is coming from someone who owns a Humvee and a tank.
Hey Arnold, you should be wary of talking and thinking like N.A.Z.I. !!!!
The California Energy Commission http://energyalmanac.ca.gov/electricity/total_system_power.html says that “Renewables” (seventh row) form 20.1% of “California Power Mix” (rightmost column). “Large Hydro” (which apparently doesn’t count as “Renewable”) adds another 5.5%, making 25.6% renewable. It’s impressive, but it’s not 40%. Coal + natural gas come to 50.9%. Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_California says “By 2020 California is required to obtain at least 33% of electricity from renewable sources other than large hydro.” so in 5 years he might be right. I note that California is one of the major oil refining states in the USA; did the famous actor mention that?
The business/eco-regulatory atmosphere in California is so anti-oil, anti-business and anti-capitalist that the majors have already largely pulled out, selling off the refineries and assets to smaller companies.
They can meet that 33% renewables target simply by redefining what ‘large hydro’ means. It takes a lot less effort that redefining what ‘peer review’ means.
What the Californian Drongo does not realize is that when you enter by door No.2 and switch on your electric car, someone else in another sealed room far away receives the fumes for generating your electric power (backing up for the idle wind-turbine, or night-time solar unit). It says something that this man was chosen to head California, from where there is now a mass exodus to Texas.
The Growth Hormone ( mistake my butt, he knew it would give him the 20-30 lbs he would not have without it, which launched his career) got to his head. Seriously.. same kind of short cut mentality he took with the drugs ( as someone who is drug free and would have won alot more 30 lbs heavier) leads to the same kind of juvenile conclusions you see in many of his actions. Short cuts are never smart cuts
You go Big Joe!!!
Your insightful comments (wx and philosophically, both) around around these parts have been scant of late…. and missed.
As you know, the Climate Fraudsters are at full throttle mil power right now. They need all the smart checks skeptics can throw at ’em.
I always sort of liked Arnold Schwarzenegger until about six months into his being first elected governor. He then revealed himself to be a less intelligent Jerry Brown. If Jerry Brown was Governor Moonbeam then Schwarzenegger was Governor Dumbbell.
California’s state motto should be “Party Till The Lights Go Out!” Look at the people the citizens keep electing at all levels of government. Talk about being suicidal!
Eugene WR Gallun
Arnie is simply a mindless RINO.
He smokes cigars and drives 12 cyclinder, multimillion dollar cars around Beverly Hills. He would never fit in at a a Greenie Weenie Cocktail Party, but he still hews the greenie dogma to stay “in” with mainstream HollyWood and his Ex’s family.
Jawohl, Ahnie is a CryptoCrat.
Arnie had to hew the line until he and Maria Shriver split.
Kleptocrat??? if so, I would agree.
Kleptocracies are phenomena of both the far left and the far right. What we are seeing now is convergent evolution of those two philosophies under the promise of wealth and power shifting that the Climate Change scam promises for both.
The common theme is Big Gov control and centralized power. Guys like Schwarzenegger and Obama , though from different sides of the political divide, have common ground in the lust for power and authority.
Damn, I read that as Greenie Weenie Cocktail Dress.
California ranks 17th in the latest year in the chart here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita
and 2012 is still lower than 2008. So negative “growth” over 4 years of “recovery”…
I’d not crow about those numbers…
Oddly, D.C. has over 3x the GDP/capita… I wonder why…
; sarc>
What’s Arnold smoking?? Look at those red eyes!
“Candy’s Dandy.
Liquor’s Quicker.
Pot is Not.”