Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
In her always interesting blog, Dr. Judith Curry [and Anthony at WUWT] points to a very well-researched article by Bjorn Lomborg, peer-reviewed, entitled “Impact of Current Climate Proposals” (full text).
He has repeated the work that Tom Wigley did for the previous IPCC report. There is a simplified climate model called “MAGICC” which is used extensively by the IPCC. It can be set up to emulate the results of any of the climate models used by the IPCC, including their average results, by merely changing the MAGICC settings. This lets us figure out how much cooling we can expect from a variety of programs that promise to reduce CO2.
The abstract of the paper says (emphasis and formatting mine):
This article investigates the temperature reduction impact of major climate policy proposals implemented by 2030, using the standard MAGICC climate model. Even optimistically assuming that promised emission cuts are maintained throughout the century, the impacts are generally small.
- The impact of the US Clean Power Plan (USCPP) is a reduction in temperature rise by 0.013°C by 2100.
- The full US promise for the COP21 climate conference in Paris, its so-called Intended Nationally Determined Contribution (INDC) will reduce temperature rise by 0.031°C.
- The EU 20-20 policy has an impact of 0.026°C, the EU INDC 0.053°C, and China INDC 0.048°C.
- All climate policies by the US, China, the EU and the rest of the world, implemented from the early 2000s to 2030 and sustained through the century will likely reduce global temperature rise about 0.17°C in 2100.
These impact estimates are robust to different calibrations of climate sensitivity, carbon cycling and different climate scenarios. Current climate policy promises will do little to stabilize the climate and their impact will be undetectable for many decades.
Note that in all cases, these are the optimistic numbers, in which the supposed reductions in CO2 emissions are assumed to continue after 2030 all the way until 2100.
Of particular interest to me was the impact of the Obama War On Coal, or as it is known, the US Clean Power Plan (USCPP). Even if we can implement it, and then assuming we can follow it until 2100, the total reduction in temperature rise is estimated to be 0.013°C.
Now, that’s a bit over a hundredth of a degree Celsius. The problem is, nobody has a good handle on just how small that reduction in temperature actually is, because we have nothing to compare it to. Even fever thermometers only measure to a tenth of a degree. Casting about to rephrase this number in units that might be more understandable than hundredths of a degree, I remembered the old rule of thumb about how much the air cools off as you climb a mountain. Everyone knows that as you go up a mountain, the air gets cooler. The rate at which non-condensing air cools with increasing altitude is called the “dry adiabatic lapse rate”. The rule of thumb states that for every hundred metres higher that you climb, the temperature drops by 1°C.
Now, a human being is typically around 1.7 metres tall, plus or minus. This means that other things being equal, the air at your head is about 0.017°C cooler than the air at your feet. And recall from above that the “impact of the US Clean Power Plan (USCPP) is a reduction in temperature rise by 0.013°C by 2100” …
Which means that after spending billions of dollars and destroying valuable power plants and reducing our energy options and making us more dependent on Middle East oil, all we will do is make the air around our feet as cool as the air around our heads … I am overcome with gratitude for such a stupendous accomplishment.
Seriously. The sum total of the entire restructuring of the US energy production will be to make the air around our feet as cool as the air around our heads.
Now, at this point the advocates of the policy often say something like “Yes, but this is just the first step. Wait until the other nations get so amazed at the damage we’re doing to our own economy that they all want to sign on and do the same”. Of course they don’t put it honestly like that, but their belief is that if the US gets stupid, everyone will follow our lead. I don’t believe it for one minute, no matter how much they SAY that they will come to the party, but let’s imagine that fairy tale to be true.
Well, Lomborg calculated that as well. He used MAGICC to compute the combined effect of the CO2 promises of the whole world, and the answer was 0.17°C of cooling by 2100 in the optimistic scenario, where everyone not only meets their promised reductions but holds to them from 2030 to 2100.
And the number for what Lomborg calls the “pessimistic” scenario, but which might more accurately be called the “realistic” scenario, is a reduction in warming of 0.05°C (see his Table 1).
And this in turn is equivalent to the difference in temperature that you’d get from walking five metres higher on the hillside. You know, like when you say “it’s so hot here, I think I’ll walk up the hill the equivalent of two flights of stairs so I’m five metres higher, and I’ll be cooler by five hundredths of a degree” …
In any case, the MAGICC results are what are used by the IPCC, so there you have it. If everything that the politicians in Paris are promising comes to pass, it will make a difference of between five hundredths and seventeen hundredths of a degree by 2100 … at an astronomical price, billions and billions of dollar globally.
Sigh … an astronomically large price for an unmeasurably small cooling. Freakin’ brilliant. This is what passes for the peak of “responsible” scientific thought these days about the climate, but to me, it’s just the height of temperature folly.
Best of the autumn days to everyone,
w.
AS USUAL: If you disagree with someone, please quote the exact words you disagree with. This lets everyone understand exactly what you are objecting to.
Note: Willis was apparently reading Curry’s article while the WUWT article from Lomborg posted, so I added a link in the first paragraph -Anthony
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Now that’s amazing…if we keep burning coal the planet will heat up until we all fry
..but if we stop….it does nothing
Thankfully we live in a free country so people that don’t like it…can freely leave and go somewhere they do like
…and I wish they would
The treaty of Versailles, almost 100 years ago demanded reparations be paid for damages of the WW1. Many consider this the precursor to WW2. The likelihood of the Paris Treaty aspirations seriously destabilizing the politics of the entire globe is, in my view, much greater than many perceived benefits.
What is the warning due to WW3? You don’t need a computer model.
What are the motives of these fools?
Typos:
many s/b any,
warning S/b warming.
Sorry.
Actually, the only way that CO2 emissions can be reduced is to create WW3. Decimate the world population, and eliminate all technologies developed in the last 250 years starting with the steam engine. Life expectancy for the remaining folks would be pretty low. Any plan that does not approximate this won’t do anything significant to change the climate — even if you believe that global warming exists and is caused by CO2. Why do people want to destroy the world in the name of saving it?
Their motives are clearly to give the UN a toehold into controlling the world economy by regulating the most fundamental part of the economy: energy. This is clearly their motive because their proposals achieve this, but achieve almost nothing with regard to the climate. This toehold would be a giant step toward turning the UN into a world wide government. Unfortunately, there is a large cadre of fools who think that somehow a world wide government would solve all of our problems. Of course, everything in history suggests just the opposite, but how can you let those ugly facts interfere with their beautiful vision?
if we keep burning coal the planet will heat up until we all fry
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are you sure it isn’t God’s punishment for the sin of using fossil fuel? or maybe it is witches. or the boogeyman under the bed.
the problem with averages is they are misleading. global warming mostly warms cold places, not warm places. the poles get warmer while the tropics remain the same. the nights get warmer while the days stay the same.
so all that happens when CO2 increases is that it becomes more comfortable to live on planet earth. and since governments rarely are happy when the citizens are happy, this cannot be allowed.
Well put Ferd. A pity more people cannot be made to understand this simple truth. Unfortunately, it does not make a good headline for the nightly news, so gets absolutely no coverage.
Are you guys taking those funny pills again?
funny pills
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lat, one thing I learned from 20 years sailing the high seas. if you sit outside in the tropics on the ocean, at night, naked, and there is the slightest breeze, you will be cold. and this is the tropics. Everywhere else you risk death from exposure.
so when someone tells me there is global warming, I say “about friggin’ time”.
Humans are specifically adapted to warm climates. Everything about us. We cannot survive in temperatures less than 27C without technology. We die of exposure almost everywhere on earth, where the average temperature is 15C. A death sentence for any human removed from technology.
So when someone says we will fry, I know they lack experience. With water and shade a human can survive the hottest climates on earth, much better than almost any other species.
What’s the difference?
“are you sure it isn’t God’s punishment..”
More likely God has put fossil fuels here to get us out of our wattle-and-daub huts and set us toward some higher purpose of His.
That witch turned me into a CO2 (newt), but I got better.
To ferd berple on November 10, 2015 at 2:49 pm
Excellent observations. Please see our article on Excess Winter Mortality at
https://friendsofsciencecalgary.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/cold-weather-kills-macrae-daleo-4sept2015-final.pdf
Excerpt”
“Contrary to popular belief, Earth is colder-than-optimum for human survival. A warmer world, such as was experienced during the Roman Warm Period and the Medieval Warm Period, is expected to lower winter deaths and a colder world like the Little Ice Age will increase winter mortality, absent adaptive measures. These conclusions have been known for many decades, based on national mortality statistics.
,,,
In Europe, where green energy schemes have been widely implemented, the result is higher energy costs that are unaffordable for the elderly and the poor, and increased winter deaths. European politicians are retreating from highly-subsidized green energy schemes and returning to fossil fuels. When misinformed politicians fool with energy systems, innocent people suffer and die.”
Given that this climate insanity is just one aspect of the political insanity ruining this nation, well, I would love to leave. Unfortunately the current level of this pandemic has infected the world. Please, just give me one sane place to go…………
Cuba? Or North Korea
Never before in history of mankind have we spent so much for so little?
This is not about climate change. This is cultural Marxism and It’s about radical change of Weatern society.
Western
So when someone says we will fry,…..and you don’t get the joke!
and I do live outside, in the tropics….out on a island in the middle of the ocean
is it expensive? private?
“This means that other things being equal, the air at your head is about 0.017°C cooler than the air at your head.”
This would make a little more sense if the second head would be feet.
Fixed, thanks.
w.
Willis, aren’t the MAGICC results using RCP8.5 for “business as usual” (that’s how they get to 4-5 degrees C of warming) when observations show a more rational “business as usual” would be RCP4.5 or RCP6? That would almost halve the potential worst case warming, so the more apt comparison might be “the air at your waist” compared to the “air at your feet”.
Ooops…..”This means that other things being equal, the air at your head is about 0.017°C cooler than the air at your head.”
Considering what I think of liberals, insinuating that they might be two headed is probably a compliment !!!!
That would be the air “in” their head.
Multifaced for sure
The second “head” should read “feet”
Willis, excellent analysis as always, but they’re model is called “MAGICC”? LOL. Seriously? You just can’t make this sh!t up.
http://www.magicc.org/
I sincerely disagree with this comment :
“And the number for what Lomborg calls the “pessimistic” scenario, but which might more accurately be called the “realistic” scenario, is a reduction in warming of 0.08°C”
There actually has to be some man made warming before you can reduce it !!!!
This just in: climate change will make your genitals disappear.
So that’s what happened..glad I can blame it on something !!!!
Oh! I’ve been blaming ageing for that.
“It’s twuuue, it’s twuuue!”
Just ask Bruce Jenner.
No. It was the food. He ate his Wheaties.
It took me about 15 minutes before I noticed the Vitruvian man without his nuts.
Leonardo drew better.
Hugs November 10, 2015 at 11:23 am
Thanks, Hugs. I wondered when someone would notice. Yeah, I gotta confess that I gelded the poor guy in the name of being a family-friendly website. Not that I care in the slightest, but I know that there are folks that do.
w.
Catastrophic climate change strikes again!
Maybe he’s the running man. My grandfather was a race horse trainer and said some horses ran faster when gelded.
Willis- “I gelded the poor guy..” So you were just illustrating the typical alarmist, no problem.
How is gelding him family friendly? Now he can’t have a family… having said that, this is what the Greens want, yes?
I think you spoil people by providing them a tuned reality. From the biblical point of view, I’d say it is not the problem what you hear or see, it is what you say and how you look. People put trousers on *other* people because they can’t stop thinking about sex, right?
“some horses ran faster when gelded”
Unfortunately for them it was too late, as it will likely be for all of us too.
only if it gets really really cold!
“…than the air at your …(feet?)”
Willis, the only issue that I take with your analysis, and Lomborg’s is accepting the Magicc results despite clear evidence (plentiful in both your writings) that they are oversensitive and significantly overestimate the warming due to CO2. While there are no really had numbers, I have heard factors suggested somewhere between 2 and 10. Now, I understand your rationale. Using the IPCC’s own data against them and not wanting to cloud the debate with complexities, and I would probably do the same in your shoes.
However, it does need to be pointed out that these miniscule numbers are demonstratably OVERESTIMATED. It’s not the difference between your head and your feet, but your feet and your waist, or perhaps your knee, and the effect of the whole world’s efforts aren’t like going up a small hill, but going up one floor in your house.
It simply serves to make even more of a mockery of this whole effort.
benofhouston November 10, 2015 at 10:00 am
Thanks, Ben. You’ll notice in the Lomborg paper that he set the climate sensitivity to 3°C / 2XCO2 for the same reason, so that nobody could whine about minimizing the results. So yes, the “optimistic” scenario is most definitely a MAXIMUM possible value given the most optimistic assumptions (including that the reduction is carried on until the year 2100). So yes, the values are overestimated … and even then they are minuscule.
w.
Miniscule indeed. Note that NOAA (http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201509) show the global temperature as ± 0.10 °C. They can’t even measure the change that they claim they can make over nearly a century!
I think you are mistaking the political argument for science. Since the numbers are completely manufactured from whole cloth, they can declare improvement or even victory simply by manufacturing new numbers that say so. honestly, there seems to be no accountability left that makes a dent. There is no real consequence for fabricating, as they control the “peer review” and the power and money now drives the science, discussion and debate.The actual science is indisputable, and yet they remain to all appearances not just unsullied but as strong as ever? I do not see how this ever ends well.
Well, when we take their numbers and point out how ludicrous it is, then we undermine their power base. They can’t claim victory if the people they are talking to understand that the gains are meaningless.
Satire and ridicule has always been the strongest weapon of the weak against the powerful
I think it gives too much credit to even call it a political argument. What it resembles is a theological argument based on magic in a new religion.
For the sake of others. Have someone proof read “the air at your head is about 0.017°C cooler than the air at your head.”
And here we all thought that hot flashes and flushed faces were due to hormones, but now it’s due to the microclimatology of global warming.
it will make a difference of between eight hundredths and seventeen hundredths of a degree by 2100
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yet this is exactly what the mainstream climate scientists are proposing as a solution. is it any wonder that climate models do such a poor job of forecasting the future that they no longer call the results predictions. Rather, they call them projections, which implies they have no predictive skill.
Right you are. Most importantly, from a legal point of view, a projection means nothing. They are not risking anything, not even their grant money, if they are shown wrong. To bolster their defenses even further, their projections are for year 2100, when their grant money will be safely used for the benefit of their gifted heirs.
Shouldn’t that .17C already be adjusted to .29C Willis? Karl Et al added .12 just a few months ago alone.
What is the actual cumulative effect of the temperature dataset adjustments anyhow if we baseline at 1880? I can’t find a definitive answer anywhere.
Go to Steven Goddard’s site (tony heller)
I have yet to see anyone quantify, in total, the impact of adjustments made to the terrestrial temperature datasets starting from the 1880’s forward. That includes Tony.
It is not possible, as you would have to carry 1880 methods and stations forward to now with no variance.
Might be interesting to try though.
Wikipedia gives the lapse rate as 0.64degC per 100m rather than 1.00. This means that the projected saving in warming corresponds to one and a half human’s height instead of 1!
BTW note that the figure in Lomberg’s posting shows 4degC of warming by 2100, which also isn’t credible given recent lower estimates of climate sensitivity.
Rich.
Not this Wiki entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapse_rate
According to the Wiki entry: “Although the actual atmospheric lapse rate varies, under normal atmospheric conditions the average atmospheric lapse rate results in a temperature decrease of 6.4 °C/km (3.5 °F or 1.95 °C/1,000 ft) of altitude above ground level.”… is 0.64 C/100 m… which is about 1 deg F/100m. But 0.17 C anywhere but a specialized lab is exactly nothing and 0.08 C is exactly nothing more precisely.
>>Wikipedia gives the lapse rate as 0.64degC per 100m rather than 1.00.
That is the saturated adiabatic lapse rate. In aviation terms it is:
Dry adiabatic: 3ºc per 1000′.
Wet adiabatic: 2ºc per 1000′.
Note that aviation has metrological schizophrenia.
Ralph
+20.
Aviation probably doesn’t care about temperature scales, but it cares massively about height scales because of the safety implications. And since the Americans and British led aviation (I’ll chauvinistically ignore Bleriot, but good to use a French word whilst doing so), and because a thousand feet is actually a convenient height difference to separate planes, “thou” or “thousand” is still the universal metric, um, I meant yardscale.
Rich.
But where people live, is not dry. It is somewhere in between.
But of course, it would not matter whether the optimistic reduction were not 0.5 or 0.17, or 0.1degC, it is clearly not worth spending such money (and reaping such havoc on our way of life) for so little return.
And of course, this does not take into account the fact that CO2 may at today’s level do nothing, nor that a warming world would be a net benefit. We might be committed to spending all this money so as not to reap the benefits that a warmer (and CO2 richer)world would bring to us.
However, one looks at it, it is pure madness.
>>Wikipedia gives the lapse rate as 0.64degC per 100m rather than 1.00.
Amendment…
Dry adiabatic: 3ºc per 1000′.
Mean adiabatic: 2ºc per 1000′.
Wet adiabatic: 1.5ºc per 1000′.
Ralph
Besides going up in altitude to achieve a lower temperature, we could also move North. If the tropics are at, say 30 C and the Arctic is 0 C, then dividing by about 6000 miles gives us a temperature drop of 0.005 C per mile. So moving North about 3.4 miles will have the same effect by 2100 as the gigaton decreases in CO2. Or anyone in California could move to San Francisco and REALLY cool off!
Thanks. That’s a meaningful (yet meaningless,) comparison to which people can actually relate.
Sorry, the comparison isn’t meaningless, just the concept of CAGW is meaningless.
In same fashion, Winter snow lines advance in Fall and retreat in Spring at rate of ~15 miles per day.
If we save our $Trillions and do absolutely nothing, we’ll end up with almost eleven hours less of Winter each year.
2(3.4/15miles)x24 hrs.=10.88 hrs.
There’s a scariness factor for you.
I do like the plan of measuring the change as to how far north you’d have to move. Here are some firmer numbers. The CERES data says that the average temperature change with latitude equator to pole in the Northern Hemisphere is about 0.5°C per degree of latitude.
A degree of latitude is exactly 60 nautical miles, or about 111 km. This gives us a temperature drop of 0.0045°C per km. The “optimistic” temperature drop from Obama’s War On Coal is .017°C, which equates to moving 4 kilometers (2.5 miles) north.
Of course, this is latitude-dependent. Where I live, at 38°N, the temperature is dropping faster. It’s falling at about 0.75°C per degree of latitude. So that means I’d only have to move 2.5 km (a mile and a half) north to get the full effect of the temperature change from the War On Coal.
Best regards,
w.
Let’s move Hollywood north! Or simply away!
I calculate it as the same as an 80kg human drinking 68ml of iced beer (1/7 of a pint)
@Curious George,
Actually, Hollywood and in fact most of LA is moving NNW, just vary slowly. In a million years or so, Hollywood will be a suburb of Anchorage. 🙂
Willis – Thanks for another great post.
I agree it’s good to express the projected avoided warming in terms of how far north you’d have to go to get the same effect. There are different ways to calculate that. The way I did it, the cumulative projected effect of the Clean Power Plan is equivalent to going north less than a mile.
To translate the 0.017 degrees Celsius of the Clean Power Plan into miles, I compared Oklahoma City (average temp 61.4 degrees F) and Omaha (average temp 51.05 degrees F, which becomes 50.66 after adjusting for the 111 foot difference in elevation at 3.5 degrees F per 1000 feet). Omaha is 347 miles further north than Oklahoma City which suggests 347/(61.4-50.66) = 32.3 miles per degree F. 0.017 degrees C is 0.0306 degrees F, leading to a 0.988 mile move north for the equivalent effect of the Clean Power Plan (using highly optimistic alarmist assumptions).
Of course, the coal mines are unlikely to leave the coal in the ground (they’ll probably sell it to the Chinese who will burn more fuel shipping it and burn it less cleanly). And, the alarmist assumptions include exaggerated warming amplification by positive feedback.
A little thought experiment on the “the consequences of the beyond-two-degree inferno.”
Sioux Falls, SD Annual Average Temperature: 45.6°F or 7.6 °C
Lincoln, NE Annual Average Temperature: 51.5°F or 10.8 °C
Iowa City, IA Annual Average Temperature: 51.2°F or 10.7 °C
Sioux Falls to Lincoln is 236 miles by road.
Sorry to hear everyone has died there with this 3 degree average increase.
Although I have heard there may still be people living in KC, but we know Alarmist must be lying at +6 degrees
Kansas City, MO Annual Average temperature: 56.7°F or 13.7 °C
And the devil must now be mayor in the hell town.
San Antonio, TX Annual Average temperature: 68.7°F or 20.4 °C
all data from – http://www.usclimatedata.com/
Another marvelous example of temperate reality bersis climate nonsense. My personal favorite was April in Boston, courtesy of Richard Lindzen, taken directly from the Boston Globe. Reproduced in the climate chapter of The Arts of Truth.
Yoiks! You want to wreck San Francisco by moving all the LA gang there??? 🙂
A wonderful comparison.
Few Londoners will realise they can experience half the worrying change prophesied for a 2℃ rise in global temperature, simply by going to the top of Big Ben.
……. and then descending to ground level.
Joe Public
The UK govt reckons that their mitigation efforts, as a result of the climate change act, will reduce temperatures by the year 2100 by two thousandths of a degree and cost 32 billion pounds according to Lord Stern.
As we don’t know what to do with all our money I am sure you will agree that this is a very good use for this borrowd money. Otherwise we might spend it on something pointless like power stations and hospitals…
Tonyb
Tony
I have seen such a claim before.
Do you have a link to a government paper/statement discussing such?
it would be useful to see it and then to write to an MP asking them to explain the economic case for spending such money to produce so little temperature reduction/ward off so little temperature rise..
Richard
Can you acknowledge that you saw this reply?
The acceptance of the figure was given by prof David mackay then chief scientist to DECC or just about to take up that position.
It can be seen in section three of my article here
http://judithcurry.com/2011/05/26/the-futility-of-carbon-reduction/
I asked a number of leading climate scientists for their estimate. Most had not even thought of doing the calculations, the couple that did agreed broadly with the figures.
Tonyb
It gets crazier by the day in the UK.
Yesterday, the Minister for Energy and Climate Change proposed that, because the UK unlikely to meet EU targets, we should consider spending tax payers money on carbon reduction projects in other countries. These will still count against our EU target.
I suppose it is better that we wreck another Nation’s economy with green schemes rather than further damage our own, but that would provide little solace for the British tax payer.
Stupidity piled upon stupidity.
It all becomes clear. I was wondering why our summer utility bill was so low. Now I know. We live on the 4th floor!
You could probably get Gore to do a swap, your apartment for his soon-to-be-flooded beachside villa. That is if you can stand a foot of water in your house and the heat stroke you will get from 0.04 Celsius global warming!
The most accurate general purpose thermometer I could find only has an accuracy of +/-0.05C. (Fisher for $405 US). But I guess they can buy the good ones with the $1,500,000,000,000 a year they have to confirm the models.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Keithley-8696-Platinum-4-wire-RTD-Air-Gas-Probe-/141788998096?hash=item21034869d0:g:lOUAAOSwajVUT7p6
4 wire RTD
0.01 Degrees
$85
Sorry, but that is only the probe. Gotta add an instrument to you pricing. And include the front end accuracy of the instrument to the probe accuracy.
David Jay in USA but really in Suzhou, China
For about $80K you should be able to measure (calculate) a 0.05C change with an FTIR pointed at the night sky. If you calibrate it very carefully.
What I envision by reading this article is someone from the Paris Climate forum going around the big room and screaming,”We want to make a pledge, I dare all of you to save the world and contribute with less warming by 2100? Me, me…and there is Chile with a new power plant!, this will contribute to .008 degrees, who else? me, me, Spain has 2 power plants and new policies! , and this is.016! C Ladies and gentleman!”, the place erupts in applause…As all of the IPPC board members smile while their brain rings the register bell
Twenty years ago, no one could have convinced me I’d be sitting aboard such a “ship of fools” as we’re all riding today. While its figurehead is surely “AGW theory”, its every fitting and finish has been warped to a state of grotesque uselessness by politically correct fashion. I believe what we have left is a submarine designed to what TV home remodeling folks assure me is the wildly popular “open concept” standard. Somewhere along the way, “must be able to float” got lost in the specifications for our ship-of-state.
Does anyone have the dollar value to achieve these 0.08-0.17 degrees C? Would be interesting to see how many millions They want to spend per 0.01 degree C
Heck, take that figure and multiply by 100 to see how many billions/trillions they would spend per 1 °C.
They .. they would spend our money.
Spare no expense when Saving The World™
Oh yeah. MAGICC: Money Aggregating Gullibility Inducing Cash Cow
Now THAT really is MAGICC.
in my organization they have recently unveiled an acronym called SCREW.
It stands for Service, Commitment…etc. All the usual bullcrap.
However, due to cost cutting I have for the last few years been primarily working alone.
So, in my mind their acronym will always stand for Solitary Confinement Reveals Everybody’s Weaknesses.
Never let a good acronym go to waste!!
It’s not that complicated.
1) Mankind’s CO2 contribution to the global CO2 balance is trivial.
2) CO2’s contribution to the global heat balance is trivial.
3) The GCM’s are useless.
A cheaper and economically more productive method than has been proposed would be to leave the coal energy plants as they are and dredge the ground up 1.7 meters higher. This would be funded by a long term stimulus plan that would provide considerable employment around the world. Since it only has to be done by 2100, it’s relatively cheap and we have cheap energy to do it with.
Thanks, Gary, your plan is great!! It not only solves the temperature problem, it solves the SEA LEVELS ARE RISING WE’RE ALL DOOMED!!! problem as well.
w.
But: sea levels are supposed to rise about 2 meters by 2100, raising the whole atmosphere some 1.4 meters, increasing temps around our heads (and at all altitudes) with 0.01 C or a comparably minuscule yet “catastrophic” amount…
ah yes, but the land is also rebounding as a result of all the ice age ice melting. so even if we do nothing the land is getting higher.
Because coastal areas will be flooded anyway, people will have to move to higher locations.
Has any scenario suggested that global mean temperature will peak somewhere below 2 C before 2100, and then head back down to “normal”? Or is all this effort just to forestall the dreaded 2 C limit for a decade or so? I mean perhaps people fortunate enough to see 2100 are nonetheless doomed by 2105.