While some people speculate there was a climate bloviage link to the recent loss of a congressional seat in Florida, we have the name calling all nighter clownfest in the Senate last Monday.
Bjørn Lomborg writes on his Facebook page: A new survey from Gallup shows that Americans don’t worry all that much about global warming.
This is very similar to the survey showing Europeans worrying a lot more about almost all other issues than global warming, https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152349665523968
This does not mean that global warming is not a problem or something that needs to be addressed. But it does indicate that politicians are vastly overhyping the discussion and likely doing us a great disservice by focusing on short-term fixes like solar and wind that have huge costs but almost no benefits.
It is also encouraging that race relations is the least important worry in the US now.
Data: http://www.gallup.com/poll/167843/climate-change-not-top-worry.aspx
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Meanwhile the senate fiddles with name-calling while their constituents burn. “just some guy” writes via email:
Forbes has a good article today stating that Alex Sink’s loss was as much a part of global warming alarmism as anything else. This loss represents a true bellwether as Democrats and Republicans spent over $12 million dollars on this single race.
And, from Stephen Rasey in a comment about the congressional record from the Senate all-nighter:
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This is a first pass summary of the use of “denier” in the March 10-11 Senate Climate Change Transcript.
CR_Page , CR_Speaker _, CR_Text
S1378 __, REID ________, climate change deniers still exist.
S1378 __, REID ________, the deniers.
S1379 __, SCHUMER _____, deniers like to claim there are competing
S1379 __, SCHUMER _____, Climate change deniers need to wake
S1379 __, BOXER _______, The deniers have given in to the
S1381 __, BLUMENTHAL _, deniers, who are as much a part of the
S1381 __, KING ________, I would not call myself a denier, but
S1387 __, BOXER _______, but who I think is a dangerous denier,
S1387 __, BOXER _______, a dangerous denier in the face of 97 percent
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, our climate deniers tend to use. I will
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, This was a prominent climate denier
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, in Antarctica. More and more deniers
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, Some deniers also like to use responsible
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, So deniers cannot in good conscience
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, deal. Maybe it is even good. As deniers
S1388 __, SCHATZ ______, This category of deniers accepts the reality,
S1390 __, FEINSTEIN __, change deniers, reported to Congress in
S1392 __, WHITEHOUSE _, which the climate denier community
S1392 __, WHITEHOUSE _, That is how much fuss the deniers
S1393 __, BOXER _______, deniers are standing with 3 percent of
S1393 __, BOXER _______, we have proven the point that deniers
S1395 __, FRANKEN _____, deniers have taken this as a sign that
S1400 __, KAINE _______, science deniers and leadership deniers,
S1400 __, KAINE _______, To science deniers, I am happy to say
S1401 __, KAINE _______, It is the skeptics and the deniers who
S1401 __, KAINE _______, variety, climate denier or leadership
S1401 __, KAINE _______, denier, don’t underestimate American
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its clear people don’t care. lol
“So much natural gas is being released by the shale also that for now outlandish quantities of it are simply being burned off into the atmosphere.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fracking-is-turning-the-us-into-a-bigger-oil-producer-than-saudi-arabia-9185133.html
As you move down the chart….politicians and liberal news gets louder
…as you move up…they get quieter
@ur momisugly Latitude
Very good observation
And some items low on the list might be useful to cover up for consequences higher up on the list.
Fuel scarcity drives up unemployment
That poll is clear evidence of Climate Fascists seeking to impose their political policies when they have little political support and which are contrary to scientific evidence given the very poor performance of climate models.
Economist James Hamilton shows that the economy and unemployment are strongly impacted by the price of fuel. Senate Democrats the Keystone XL pipeline are effectively working to increase unemployment.
They would do far better to find ways to provide abundant fuel rather than reduce fuel availability and increase national INsecurity. See:
James Hamilton “Historical Oil Shocks,” in Routledge Handbook of Major Events in Economic History, pp. 239-265, edited by Randall E. Parker and Robert Whaples, New York: Routledge Taylor and Francis Group, 2013. Working paper version here.
‘But it does indicate that politicians are vastly overhyping the discussion and likely doing us a great disservice by focusing on short-term fixes like solar and wind that have huge costs but almost no benefits.’
Fixes is debatable.
Alex Sink’s loss and Jolly’s win in Florida may be a portent of things to come. The Republican, Jolly, was outspent 3 to 1 by Sink. The main important factor in the race was that Jolly was extremely anti-Obamacare.
The chart of things that the US worries about show the disconnect between the current administration and the populace. The administration is doing its darndest to avoid addressing the top six and focusing on the bottom three.
Lol – while the democrats hold an all night session in the senate bloviating CO2 garbage, meanwhile down in Florida their world comes crashing down. The Republican cream them. How sweet is that? Yep, panic spreading in Obamaland. Today global warming thrown over the side in an all out effort to save their useless existence.
“This does not mean that global warming is not a problem or something that needs to be addressed.”
Well, it’s technically true that people’s opinion doesn’t make something a real problem or not. But I see absolutely no objective evidence that “global warming” is a problem. Does the author believe it is?
As a registered Democrat I can say that Climate Change is at the top of my worry list… but not for the reason you may think. I am worried that we will be taxed to death by big-government, and Climate Change is being used as the big-stick with which to beat the working man into submission. It is a facilitating device, and nothing more. Also, the Climate Change meme is being used to fund stupendously expensive crony capitalistic dead-ends, instead of going after real problems – i.e. the rest of the Gallop Poll list.
So, enough already.
My message to representatives and legislators from the local subcommittees to the leaders of the DNC is “get off the climate change bandwagon, or through my vote in the primaries and general elections I will put someone else in your place that will address the real issues this world faces.”
This is what just happened in Pinellas County, FL.
Best way to turn people off climate change is to tell them the so called expert predictions have failed, 98% of their predictions have not come true. Why should we listen to those whose predictions have failed ?
The egregious stupidity of Harry Reid, Danne feinstein,Barbara Boxer and Al Franken can only be fixed with a state funeral, after all of them die or disappear as soon as possible, we cam’t afford them or their stupidity. Truly, science advances only one funeral at a time.
The democrats have left themselves with no way out. Climate change is a political failure as green energy is a job killing scam that does not significantly reduce CO2 emissions. If AGW has a problem nuclear energy is the solution. The public and the media are gradually becoming aware that green scam energy leads to a tripling and quadrupling of electricity costs in addition to destroying jobs.
The second part of this spectacular fiasco is approaching quickly.
The planet is going to unequivocally cool. The changes in climate that have been observed over the last couple of years are support for the assertion that the mechanism that was inhibiting the solar magnetic cycle modulation of planetary cloud cover and that caused the majority of the warming over the last warming over the last 20 years has started to abate.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.antarctic.png
http://news.yahoo.com/thaw-snow-returns-midwest-northeast-131911294.html
Snowfall totals in southeastern Michigan could come close to breaking a 133-year-old record. The storm will likely move the Detroit area close to the seasonal snow total of 93.6 inches set in 1880-1881, according to the weather service.
Chicago had already been buried by 75.5 inches of snow this winter — the fourth most on record dating back to 1884-1885, according to the weather service. The snowfall on Wednesday pushed the seasonal total into third place, ahead of the 77.0 inch total from 1969-1970, though with some snow still falling Wednesday morning a final tally was not complete.
Latitude,
Good observation.
The population in general don’t have it’s eye on the bottom of the list so this is where progressives have the easiest time making headway. Additionally as you move down the chart the bigger the prize and this is where the action on Health Care gains control of 20% of the economy and Climate Change driven Energy Policy activities cover everything else.
My response to the “denier” name calling is this:
You who deny the REAL science, and support policies like carbon taxes, cap-and-trade and the ethanol program are both the perpetrators and deniers of a very real NEW HOLOCAUST, with tens of thousands dying from hypothermia (UK) because carbon taxes make them unable to afford to heat their homes; hundreds of thousands losing electric service (Germany) due to over-reliance on “renewables,” with similar mortal consequences; and millions starving or dying of malnutrition (sub-Saharan Africa, even Mexico) because of the diversion of food crops to fuel.
The incredible hypocrisy, the sheer brass balls, of Holocaust PERPETRATORS trying to associate those of us skeptics – who are only trying to stop this new Holocaust – with deniers of the Jewish Holocaust.
All the afore-named senators who use this term already have a lot of blood on their hands, and are arguably thirsting for more.
This really highlights the gap between what PEOPLE think is important and what POLITICIANS think is important.
From my Real Science comment:
In order to get “the little people” worried about
global warmingclimate change the fear mongers needed to make up a bunch of bs “scary scenarios” that were pure bs. Their own words:“Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.” -Sir John Houghton, the first ipcc chair
“We have to offer up scary scenarios… each of us has to decide the right balance between being effective and being honest.” -Stephen Schneider, lead ipcc author, 1989
“The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” -Daniel Botkin, ex Chair of Environmental Studies, UCSB
The people won’t listen to them, they admit, unless they are constantly druming up pure scare mongering baloney. Eventually, though, the people start to grow weary of or get wise to this. Or the people have just had enough, realizing that the scary scenarios are little more than fabricated hogwash. Now their most recent and outlandish “scary scenario” is a patently absurd notion that thawing corpses will reinfect the world with small pox.
Right, this small pox thing is the latest scary scenario they’ve “offered up,” and the Dems got their idea on how they want to “truly change” society as they are filibustering on climate change in the senate the other night. The idea of the Dems, taken directly from Obama’s Science Czar John Holdren is to “de-develop the United States… [and] design a stable, low-consumption economy.” Or force us to suffer with $10+ a gallon gas prices as Obama’s ex Energy Secretary Chu said “somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe,” or Obama himself who said that his plan (that thankfully he has not yet been able to implement) would cause electricity prices to skyrocket. Yeah, skyrocket, Obama’s word. Total craziness. Here we have China and Russia going full speed ahead with developing their countries and energy infrastructures, while are effete pusillanimous leaders seek to unilaterally eunuch-ize our own country. Sad. Horrendous actually.
I can only deduce one thing from that Gallup poll.
I deduce that the public is realizing the problem is the idea that the government can be a solution for those ‘problems’.
The idea of absence of government in many of those areas is now becoming a new paradigm.
John
When does global cooling enter the choice list for the poll? 3, 5, 10 years out? The same applies to Japan-style economic stagnation in the U.S. and EU.
As cooling (and crop failure) sets in, climate change will move up the list.
Skeptics have two best friends…well 3 if you count Mikey baby…
The cause killing pause, and public apathy.
If “climate change” mongering starts to be seen as a political liability, and that seems to be happening, watch for the issue to disappear almost entirely…
Politicians are many things, but courageous isn’t one of them…
“This does not mean that global warming is not a problem or something that needs to be addressed. “
True. Likewise, it does not mean that global warming is a problem that needs to be addressed. Only empirical evidence showing that man made CO2 causes harmful global warming would imply such a thing, and such evidence is nowhere to be found.
While folks here may gloat over the scientific demise of AGW (etc.), a quick review of news stories shows it is alive and well. By at least a 10:1 margin, stories about some new finding or technology to combat the “dangerous rise in temperature” outnumber anything rational. With massive government programs to support Renewable Energy. Or Electric Cars. The bad guys are laughing all the way to the bank.
Is anyone paying attention how NOAA is changing the past again? It’s a big difference.
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/GrDD-Transition.pdf
can’t ‘solve’ a non problem.
That’s because the MSM, in their misguided attempts to give both sides to the story are giving an unfair advantage to what is, after all, a “minority viewpoint”. They need to do much, much more to communicate climate change, and letting people know that the science is basically settled now. Climate scientists could also do more in the communicating climate change realm, even though they may think that isn’t their job. People also just need to make the connection between climate change and how it affects their daily lives. From more powerful storms, to floods, droughts, and all types of extreme weather events, to rising seas, including the enormous costs involved, people can make those kinds of connections. Often, it is the resistance to new ideas, or the fact that those ideas may be seen as somehow a threat that can keep people from accepting something that has been shown to be true by thousands of scientists working for many years. Very young children, on the other hand, often have little difficulty accepting such ideas. They even become excited by them, and want to know how they can help. They are often a link to reluctant parents, getting them to think about things like recycling and changing to low energy lighting.
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Wait, what happened? Must have gone into a trance or something. I think I was channeling Holdren, or even, gasp, Obama.
Ack. Must go shower now.