NZ Greens lose interest in global warming – 'no hellfire, no brimstone'

Joe Romm must be upset  that NZ greens are ignoring his trademark “hell and high water”.

From the New Zealand Business Review (h/t to Bishop Hill):

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When Jeanette Fitzsimons was co-leader global warming was the greatest-ever threat to the planet. It dwarfed all other environmental worries. It was the granddaddy of them all.

But the shift on global warming with the Greens is significant. We are safe in concluding that they no longer regard global warming as the greatest threat to the planet. It would, I think, merit a mention in a leader’s annual speech to the Greens if it were. A fast-approaching environmental armageddon would be top of mind, not the constitutionality of parliamentary legislation, and not Peter Dunne’s emails.

Read the entire article here: http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/global-warming-ends-whimper-dc-141467

 

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Bruce Cobb
June 16, 2013 8:24 am

The bells are tolling not for the climate, but for the biggest, most harmful cause in the history of mankind. It’s dead, Jim.

cui bono
June 16, 2013 8:25 am

They’ve lost this battle. Time to move on to exaggerate and distort other stuff. So, like, we’re turning the oceans into bubbling pools of acid (rofl), we’re running out of unobtainium, world population growth is out of control (latest projections are for depopulation and our voluntary extinction by 2600).

June 16, 2013 8:54 am

Made my morning, even if it is 1:50 a.m. 🙂 Great news. Watch more follow, I reckon there’ll be great pretence from many a green head that “something else” is more important and it wasn’t them, no-sir, it wasn’t, that was some other loon… er… Then they’ll get on with the next event. Watch it happen.

Grumpy Old Man
June 16, 2013 8:57 am

cui bono, Source please for our extinction by 2600, just out of interest Thank you. Going on T; the Greens may have retreated but it’s the politicians we have to deal with and get them off sucking at the carbon tax teat and the subsidies to their pals and relatives. (UK is a prime example).

DirkH
June 16, 2013 9:00 am

What is it with the NZ Greens? Haven’t they read their Gramsci? You gotta control the media if you want to brainwash the population. Shouldn’t be difficult with that hippy population. Teach them that 2+2=5, what kind of socialists are you. Wimps.

Peter Stroud
June 16, 2013 9:11 am

Unfortunately this will count as nothing with our government in the UK. Cameron, and his band of greenies, continue to herald CAGW as a greater threat than international terrorism.

June 16, 2013 9:21 am

So the question now is… why did they lie to us?

John from the EU
June 16, 2013 9:25 am

@NZ: Good on ya mates! Ozzie is next.

taxed
June 16, 2013 9:52 am

This may give Russia a rethink on global warming as well.
Have a look over on BBC weather at the “Siberian summer snow shocker” piece.

pat
June 16, 2013 10:20 am

The falsification of the temperature data by NIWA was publicized in a manner that was easily understood. The NIWA temperature records were adjusted without the public being told. As there were only 11 old weather stations, the data was limited to an understandable quanta. When the real data was located in the National Library (where it resided unbeknownst to NIWA), the difference was easy to see. The past had been made colder.

wws
June 16, 2013 10:30 am

We won’t be extinct by 2600, we’ll just have turned into Eloy and Morlocks.

Mario martini
June 16, 2013 10:40 am

We will become extinct on Wednesday 23 October at just after 3.30 in the morning in the year 2600 due to our reliance on fossil fuels. I don’t have any actual evidence for this, but if I’m given a big enough grant I’m sure I can come up with some.

wws
June 16, 2013 11:06 am

Mario, if you give me a grant out of your new existence tax, I’m certain I can come up with a computer model showing you are exactly right. And for the right amount of money, I can find any number of academics who will “verify” it.

June 16, 2013 11:09 am

Neil says:
June 16, 2013 at 9:21 am
So the question now is… why did they lie to us?
*
Money, mate. Follow the money. Massive funding for the pseudo-scientists and billions syphoned into Green Schemes. There’s a lot of loaded pockets out there, all under the guise of Saving the Planet from the Sin of Humans. Oh yeah, and power over the masses, too – the Green Dream.

OldWeirdHarold
June 16, 2013 11:11 am

They’ll be back.

Chad Wozniak
June 16, 2013 11:51 am

Note to Anthony: the link to the NZ article isn’t working (for me at least).

Roy UK
June 16, 2013 12:08 pm

The link is not working for me either 🙁

Richard Lawson
June 16, 2013 12:34 pm

The shift to more rational thought is really starting to happen in the MSM now too. Looks like Daily Mail journalists are avid readers of this site referring to two recents posts here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2342434/DAVID-ROSE-Madness-Met-Office-Summit-meeting-weather–normal.html
Time to uncork another one of those fine Clarets this evening.

rtj1211
June 16, 2013 12:55 pm

THe lessons that people must learn are not so much specific to ‘global warming’ but the strategies of misinformation and the narrow agendas which underpin them.
Here is a list of a few of those:
1. ‘Reds in the Bed’.
2. ‘Climate Change’, be that ice ages or AGW.
3. Bird Flu.
4. Y2K.
5. South Sea Bubble.
6. Tulips.
7. Racism.
8. Sports reporting.
9. Conditioning societies to believe in very right wing postulates or very left wing postulates.
10. ‘War on drugs’.
11. GM as an agricultural saviour.
12. Reductionist science for complex systems.
Each and every one is about a small set of avaricious greedy people seeking to deliberately misinform for the purpose of making a lot of money, with total disregard for the systemic implications either short-term or long term.
All require a compliant media (which requires oligarchic ownership to co-ordinate it across media), poor education systems ensuring the majority cannot educate themselves about the truth of matters, a culture of greed which encourages enough to get onto the moving train to drive the tsunami and a culture of callous amorality in then bankrupting them by revealing the truth without being prosecuted for it.
In different ages, the timescales and the media of communication are different.
But the key component every time is informational assymmetry and using that to misinform for malignant purposes.
Healthy societies must develop an immune system to defend against such challenge.
It involves a rejection of hierarchies and an establishment of multi-generational self-sufficiency, skeptical education and confidence to go against the misinformational tsunami.

Master of Space and Thyme
June 16, 2013 1:04 pm

There seems to be a possibility that the New Zealand Business Review article was not completely honest in their account of what was said at the conference. I am not sure of the policy at WUWT regarding the posting of links, but I have found several online accounts that differ from what New Zealand Business Review claims, including transcripts of the speeches and a summary on the Green’s own webpage.

Martin
June 16, 2013 1:10 pm

According to this article the NZ Greens have NOT lost interest in Global Warming…
Conference shows that action is needed on climate change now – See more at: http://www.greens.org.nz/press-releases/conference-shows-action-needed-climate-change-now#sthash.zTTql51U.dpuf

Editor
June 16, 2013 1:23 pm

Looks like the whole http://www.nbr.co.nz/ site is down – I get “Unable to connect Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at http://www.nbr.co.nz.”
Traceroute works, ping works:
$ ping -c 2 http://www.nbr.co.nz
PING nbr.mycdn.co.nz (216.139.211.164) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 216-139-211-164.aus.us.siteprotect.com (216.139.211.164): icmp_req=1 ttl=47 time=72.4 ms
64 bytes from 216-139-211-164.aus.us.siteprotect.com (216.139.211.164): icmp_req=2 ttl=47 time=74.2 ms

Stamper
June 16, 2013 1:25 pm

The NZ Greens are currently led by an Aussie [ex?] Communist and a lady [ex?] Anarchist. Classic “watermelons” – and scary stuff for us if they gain the treasury benches in next years elections. Luckily, the present Conservative Government is just kicking the can down the road re AGW, and waiting for the fad to pass.

stamper44
June 16, 2013 1:37 pm

The NBR site is up – but Rodney’s articles are behind a paywall.

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