NZ Greens lose interest in global warming – 'no hellfire, no brimstone'

They’ve lost this battle. Time to move on to exaggerate and distort other stuff. So, like, we’re turning the oceans into bubbling pools of acid (rofl), we’re running out of unobtainium, world population growth is out of control (latest projections are for depopulation and our voluntary extinction by 2600).

cui bono, Source please for our extinction by 2600, just out of interest Thank you. Going on T; the Greens may have retreated but it’s the politicians we have to deal with and get them off sucking at the carbon tax teat and the subsidies to their pals and relatives. (UK is a prime example).

Unfortunately this will count as nothing with our government in the UK. Cameron, and his band of greenies, continue to herald CAGW as a greater threat than international terrorism.

@NZ: Good on ya mates! Ozzie is next.

The falsification of the temperature data by NIWA was publicized in a manner that was easily understood. The NIWA temperature records were adjusted without the public being told. As there were only 11 old weather stations, the data was limited to an understandable quanta. When the real data was located in the National Library (where it resided unbeknownst to NIWA), the difference was easy to see. The past had been made colder.

We will become extinct on Wednesday 23 October at just after 3.30 in the morning in the year 2600 due to our reliance on fossil fuels. I don’t have any actual evidence for this, but if I’m given a big enough grant I’m sure I can come up with some.

Neil says:
June 16, 2013 at 9:21 am
So the question now is… why did they lie to us?
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Money, mate. Follow the money. Massive funding for the pseudo-scientists and billions syphoned into Green Schemes. There’s a lot of loaded pockets out there, all under the guise of Saving the Planet from the Sin of Humans. Oh yeah, and power over the masses, too – the Green Dream.

Note to Anthony: the link to the NZ article isn’t working (for me at least).

According to this article the NZ Greens have NOT lost interest in Global Warming…
Conference shows that action is needed on climate change now – See more at: http://www.greens.org.nz/press-releases/conference-shows-action-needed-climate-change-now#sthash.zTTql51U.dpuf

The NZ Greens are currently led by an Aussie [ex?] Communist and a lady [ex?] Anarchist. Classic “watermelons” – and scary stuff for us if they gain the treasury benches in next years elections. Luckily, the present Conservative Government is just kicking the can down the road re AGW, and waiting for the fad to pass.

Stamper – the Greens have a good chance end 2014 of being part of the next government I am afraid. I call it 50:50.

Hi to all.An article in Fairfax gave mckibben a fair grubbing after his last show in Dunedin on do the maths.Even they are changing.

The NZBR link still works for me. I live in NZ. It is possible they are checking IP addresses and only serving the article to those living in NZ.

I think the Greens are are running scared. I don’t mean the real genuine concerned environmentalist type greens – I mean the political or semi-political, NGO organisations that have acted as ambulance chasers on the back of the AGW hype. Their ‘income’ and viability is now under threat – all the save the whales, save the seals, save the monkeys, etc etc charities have used AGW as a free ride to further funding. That AGW will (undoubtedtly, in my mind) eventually be seen to be a complete false alarm and indeed, likely a ‘fabrication’ of epic proportions, and that they have shouted it so high from the roof tops, will make any other (and certain less humanly catastrophic) real or genuine message seem somewhat tame. Your average Joe in the street is less likely to sign up for their £5 a month ‘green’ fix if they find out that AGW is a hoax! After all, it is all we have been ‘educated’ (ok, brainwashed !) about for the last couple of decades!
I hope the real environmental issues are not forgotton, and indeed, the genuine ‘good’ causes are still supported – but folk have long memories after they have been duped – and I think this will backfire on the genuine ‘green’ movement terribly. Those NGO’s that still have some scientific integrity (can’t think of any offhand !) should get out and come clean whilst they can IMHO.

@K.A.Rodgers: The possibility of a Green tail wagging the Labour dog is absolutely killing Labour in the polls. Expect National to add to this by ignoring Labour and campaigning against the Greens in the upcoming election. Adding to Labours woes, it is now clear that Russel Norman is the effective opposition party leader that David Shearer only wishes he could be, which means Labour struggle to achieve visibility. We face an interesting election. As a floating voter I am most unhappy. I will not vote for Labour so long as it means empowering the Greens. That means I will probably vote for National. But I am uncomfortable with them having such a long spell in government. They start to get ideas.
Labour got utterly thrashed in the last election and seems to have failed to learn anything from it. They have not used their time in opposition productively. What does Labour stand for? Who knows, least of all Labour. I wish Labour had the balls to properly break away from the Greens. Traditional Labour was all about supporting the working people of New Zealand. It is hard to see how enabling the Greens to destroy the economy does that.

Oh, BTW, NZ already produces 70% of its power from renewable sources. So the greens attack farming. Its TOO intensive, too much cow farts….etc etc.

The problem the Greens have with CAGW is that people look out their windows and see steady amounts or more snow on the ski-fields this last decade, continuing winter Arctic blasts of snow covering the South Island and the Desert Road, cooler summers and severe winter frosts – normal weather. The biggest threat we face just ain’t a vote catcher any more.

Sorry, was out for the day. Depopulation example: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2013/01/world_population_may_actually_start_declining_not_exploding.html
The date of 2600 was one (semi-humorous?) conclusion based on the math if fertility rates continue to plummet as they are now.
If you want to help out, please join the nuts at http://www.vhemt.org/ , where you can pick up a nice t-shirt extolling the virtues of a human-free world..

Meanwhile the Alarmist prophet of AGW/CC Bill McKibben is in NZ. Unable to do the maths in His do the Maths Tour.
Here’s what he says about Oil in an interview in with the NZ Chicken Littles at Hot Topic.
McKibben: NZ needs to move away from oil and coal
http://hot-topic.co.nz/mckibben-nz-needs-to-move-away-from-oil-and-coal/

Dr Rogers has given a very good summary (above) of the Greens tactical spin. If they are not talking about CAGW, they are certainly intending doing serious financial damage to the NZ economy under the banner of CAGW.
And Bill McKibben has proven to Kiwi audiences that his science and his math are hopeless!

“””””…..Ian H says:
June 16, 2013 at 4:23 pm
@K.A.Rodgers: The possibility of a Green tail wagging the Labour dog is absolutely killing Labour in the polls. Expect National to add to this by ignoring Labour and campaigning against the Greens in the upcoming election. Adding to Labours woes, it is now clear that Russel Norman is the effective opposition party leader that David Shearer only wishes he could be, which means Labour struggle to achieve visibility. We face an interesting election. As a floating voter I am most unhappy. I will not vote for Labour so long as it means empowering the Greens. That means I will probably vote for National. But I am uncomfortable with them having such a long spell in government. They start to get ideas.
Labour got utterly thrashed in the last election and seems to have failed to learn anything from it. They have not used their time in opposition productively. What does Labour stand for? Who knows, least of all Labour. I wish Labour had the balls to properly break away from the Greens. Traditional Labour was all about supporting the working people of New Zealand. It is hard to see how enabling the Greens to destroy the economy does that…….””””””
I seem to remember how the Labour Party was all about supporting the working people of New Zealand, back in the early 1950s. At the time, there was no internet, as far as I can remember; nor was there any efficient long range air cargo transport system.
New Zealand’s economy, and the well being of its working people, was highly dependent on its export of wool, and butter and mutton/lamb, mostly to the UK, which was not a member of the EU at that time.
So the economic well being of the working people of New Zealand, was totally dependent on an efficient working shipping industry, as virtually every export had to travel by ship; including NZ brains in Agriculture and other areas. Virtually all science graduates, were faced with having to ship out.
So it was that maritime shipping system, that the Labour Party and its wharfie union goons decided to shut down; well of course to support the working people of New Zealand, who relied on the export / import trade. I remember the incidents of bike chain wielding “enthusiasts” assaulting people in parks to supplement their petering out union strike bank roll. The recently elected National Party, led by Sydney Holland, had displaced the long entrenched labor party in Parliament, partly as a result of the wharf unrest.
Well the other thing that Holland had done, was to relieve the male 18 year olds, of their customary summer time compulsory military training stint, and set them to work on the docks, getting those ships moving again. Before long, nobody much noticed, the lack of wharfies on the job, and some others of the summer 18 year olds, made good use of their time collecting bike chains in public parks, so decent folks; the working people of New Zealand, could go safely about their business.
After some semblance of normalcy returned, and the 18 yr. olds started going back to school, the less militant wharfies, started showing up at the docks, to see if they could get their old jobs back. The Labor goon ringleaders, of course, found themselves left out in the cold, they had wished on the working people of New Zealand.
So then PM Holland resigned, and called a new General Election, to let the people decide the propriety of his action as regards the wharfie strike.
National was re-elected in a landslide, (1956 I believe), and Sydney Holland led a long period of prosperity, for the working people of New Zealand.
Seems to me, that John Key, is similarly working to rescue NZ from the oppression of the Helen Clark regime.
Yes you have to keep their feet to the fire; but labour governments don’t seem to have a great history, of acting for the interests of the working people; mostly just keeping themselves in power, witness the House Democrats under Nancy Pelosi; “we have to pass it, to find out what’s in it ! “

Why do they lie? It is because they are a part of the Environmental Industrial Complex. No different than the Military Industrial Complex. It is driven by self interest. The Environmental Industrial Complex has been on the up swing.

Even idiots get tired of being shown to be idiots.

In preacher’s parlance:
The prediction is brimstone. The results so far are treacle.