Guest post by WUWT moderator Andi Cockroft
This has little to do with my beliefs (or otherwise) in CAGW, but more to the fact that I am tight with money and this project offers the ability to run my 5 litre SUV for free ! Please note however, this is only suitable for Petrol/Gasoline Engines – most definitely NOT for diesels
Now I should also state that I live on a block of “Native Bush” (read indigenous trees) in New Zealand, so I have a carbon sink of my very own. I also have access to an almost unlimited supply of pine from plantation operations where logging operations leave huge amounts of uneconomic timber behind – myself and several hundred souls benefit from this bountiful resource to heat our homes in winter.
Now I want to run my SUV on it as well.
So what is “Producer Gas”? Well our dear friends over at Wikipedia have an overview here. Unfortunately it is long on references, but short on detail.
So, I will define what I mean by Producer Gas, as a combination of various gasses obtained by “cooking” dry wood. Heat it enough, without burning it, and it will give off a mixture of primarily Carbon Monoxide and Methane – plus a few nasty bi-products such as tar etc. What remains we know as charcoal.
There are many different mechanisms for manufacturing Producer Gas, most concentrate these days on stationary platforms – however they are just as easily made for mobile use aboard a vehicle.
This image of a Ford Truck conversion, (courtesy of Per Larsson’s Museum) shows one of the many ways it can be achieved – here strapped onto the side of the truck.
Note the extra radiator in front, required to cool the Producer Gas after its manufacture by “cooking” – internal combustion engines work better with cooler fuels (think of this as an inter-cooler).
But looking at this doesn’t really gel with the aesthetics I want to achieve for my SUV – so how can it be done that bit better?
Let’s just look at how Producer Gas is made.
There are different designs, and I have researched many over the years I have been contemplating this project – brought to a head now simply by exorbitant fuel prices. Here is my preference for a “Stratified Downdraft Gassifier”
OK, so how do we convert our fuel (pine for me) into Producer Gas?
Here courtesy of http://www.gengas.nu/byggbes/index.shtml is the version I choose to build. On the right is the main Gassifier – here’s where all the magic happens – but do visit their site, it is a goldmine of information.
Wood Fuel in the form of dried pellets of wood (about 1” cube) are stacked in the hopper at the top, and feed under gravity into the fire tube. At the base of the tube is a dish or grate riddled with air-holes – much like a colander. Both the fire tube, and the grate must be made of pretty heat tolerant material such as stainless steel. We need a small opening in the Gassifier so we can actually set fire to the material in the grate – and for reasons we will see later, this will normally have charcoal in it.
But before we set fire to things, note the other components. In the middle is a filter unit that can be of many designs, but meant primarily to prevent nasty stuff such as tar reach our engine, Use sawdust, oil, water or sand to trap the stuff you don’t want, and then our gas heads off to the left to be mixed with air and on into our engine.
You may notice there are actually 2 throttle controls – one the master throttle, the other to control air. This is OK for an engine that will run at constant speed such as a generator, but for a vehicle it would be far better if these could be linked together – something I am working on right now.
OK, before we can start our engine, we need to light our Gassifier. Easily done, with some charcoal in the grate, add a little lighter fuel if you feel brave, and light it. At the same time, note the provision of a blower – this is only used during this phase to get air flowing into the Gassifier from above, provide oxygen to the charcoal on the grate and start the process rolling.
I am told to expect 10 to 15 minutes for this to begin – but note THIS IS CARBON MONOXIDE – DO NOT DO THIS IN A CONFINED SPACE.
Also, you should include springs to hold the lid firmly on the Gassifier – not welded on. Just in case of a back-fire, the lid will momentarily lift, allow the built-up gasses to escape, then reseal itself.
My plan is to add a spark-plug to the funnel, so I can ignite the gas with ease. Once it is burning with a very pale blue flame then we can look to start the engine – just turn off the blower first.
It has been suggested that starting with petrol/gasoline and then switching to Producer Gas is far easier – but we will see.
The beauty of this design is that the production of gas is totally dependent on demand – ie the suction provided by the engine – put your foot down and it will draw and manufacture more gas. Ease off and it will slow down. And best of all, turn the engine off and it will simply go out – but that takes another 10-15 minutes, so restarting in that time should be just a matter of turning the ignition key.
I am in the process of building the Gassifier right now, and I have a pickup SUV, where I can mount the Gassifier outside on the back and run all that plumbing outside the cab as well. I will keep you apprised of my progress.
I am also working on a stationary engine coupled to a 20Kw alternator that will not only supply all my needs, but allow me to sell the excess (at 3x retail) back onto the grid – heck if they pay subsidies to windmills, then why not to me!
Up until now, I have only mentioned pine as a fuel source, but depending on where you live, you could use left-overs from many agricultural products – corn stalks, sugar cane, coconut husks – even coal if you really want to.
Also on the design-table is a device to take large pieces of pine and chop them into the ideal sizes required – and if I can run that directly of the engine, I just about have perpetual motion – well at least motion at zero cost.
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A video of a guy who did in Finland. Kamina in Finnish means a small wood stove.
Planet mechanics has done an episode on a converting a car to run on wood gas:
Excellent post – I run a Land Rover Discovery V8 3.9litre here in the UK on LPG . The engine “loves” it – the oil stays clean for far longer than when running on petrol and if I forget to put it on petrol for the annual MOT the tester thinks his machine is broken the emissions are so low.
Here the price per litre for petrol is now £1.43. LPG is just 78pence per litre
What got me thinking with this story is that our hedgerows in the UK get trimed back regularly and the trimings get fed through a shredder and the chippings just left on the road side . This technology could be very attractive. The raw materials are there.
This is a really good read Andi, but how long do you think it’ll be before the NZ govn’t will outlaw this method of gas production or increases RUCs to compensate for the drop in tax revenue from regular fuels?
Finnish wood gassifiers. Funny photos with contraptions in cars. German language page.
http://www.holzgibtgas.com/viewtopic.php?t=6265
Wood gas vehicles: firewood in the fuel tank
http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html
But the CO and the CO2 are destroying the universe! Have you no decency?
More fotos of Finnish gassifier cars. Finnish page.
http://www.ekoautoilijat.fi/tekstit/kalustoesittely.htm
Is there no limit to human ingenuity? This post has really cheered me up. Heath-Robinson lives on in New Zealand!
It’s 1943 all over again!
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=252190&sid=641de2a8364fbb6f335ab6b845ca8747&mode=view
Tech Guys! tech team!! Innovative People! Keep it up!!
Dual fueling an SI engine. Neat. Of course if you had one without an engine you could add a tank of water, fire box and steam operated piston and just burn the pine.
For the purposes of being able to maintain a standard gas/air mixture it is easier to start the engine using petrol until it’s warmed, otherwise you need to arrange some form of choke mechanism. Extra complication.
DaveE.
A very Antipodean solution – some of the the ‘Mad Max’ cars seem to have been powered this way?
Not exactly environmentally-friendly, but it works. Wood-gasifiers were used extensively in Germany towards the end of the war, on trucks, buses and cars (especially on taxis), when gasoline was rationed and generally not available. In the end, Germany did not even have enough of it to fly the airplanes of the Luftwaffe.
Still, it is a step in the right direction, in the direction of the stone age.
Now, I wonder what the EPA will have to say about it. I remember that wood-gasifiers were stinky and messy, but the residue they produced could be used to help heat homes and to cook meals. That was a good thing, too, because coal was then not obtainable either, as the whole economy was in shambles, rubble and ashes.
It took Hitler only 13 years to bring that about. We now take a little longer because we have to do it through peaceful means and on a world-wide scale. /sarc
Such things were used during WW2 here in europe when most of gas was confiscated for military purposes. These things were big, heavy, hot, smelly, and the produced gas was hard on engines. Even though it was rather cheap to run once the unit was mounted on the car they still stopped using these after the war as soon as normal gas became available. There were reasons for it.
I’m not saying technology did not go ahead since then. But the design you describe is very similar to the old ones.
Another thing is, you don’t completely stop it by taking your foot off the pedal – the gas will continue to develop while it’s hot, it will just stop going to the engine and will find whatever else way out. Your car WILL smell.
With that said I still wish you success with your project and hope you will have fun with it. Just be really careful about the carbon monoxide.
Excellent piece of no#8 wire technology fellow Kiwi. Beat the fuel tax. I salute you. Didn’t they have these things during WWII in France – gazogenes or some such thing.
The BBC science programme Bang goes the theory used this method to convert a car to run on coffee grounds. As I remember, it was a sod to control the throttle and it stopped in awkward places on a regular basis. They did manage however to drive it from Birmingham to London, leaving a cloud of smelly smoke behind them, but enough of Birmingham.
Producer gas systems were used on buses in Britain during the second World War. They weren’t very successful, and could only be used in very flat country. If your fuel is not a gas, or a liquid that easily vaporises, I should have thought you’d be better off with a steam engine. Still, good luck with it.
Cooling the producer gas is ok for a first cut but better to (partially) run the engine on water. There are two reactions
a – 2C+O2 = 2CO gives off heat
b – H20+C = H2 + CO needs heat
With wood the moisture in the wood reacts as per B but more water can be added.
If the cooler is replaced by a heat exchanger where the exhaust from the gasifier heats the incoming air more water can be added ie free energy.
Look at stuff on the old town gas to get an idea but use a countercurrent heat exchanger with a couple of stainless steel pipes
To do this you need control stuff, thermocouple, microprocessor and pump.
Also consider using charcoal (refer destructive distillation of wood) or a very cheap engine as the stuff from wood needs very good filtering for any engine life
There were two big problems with the old producer gas vehicles. The first was they were very low power. Most vehicles had real problems getting up to 50mph even with a tail wind. The other more serious issue was it wasn’t possible to fit an effective filter so the engine had a lot of bits of silica laden char going through them. This meant that they needed rebuilding every 1000 mile or so. they also needed decoking. They also went best on the old American big 6s and V8s. Combination of flat head, slow revs, low compression and relatively excess power as well as a big enough body to carry the device.
The only thing going for them was they didn’t need liquid fuels so were very popular during the war. – desparate times called for desparate measures.
From memory, the old DSIR put out a book on the trials and experiences of gasifiers in cars. This was in the late 70s so the National Library may have a copy.
But why do that when you can burn food? That’s not ecological. You must burn corn alcohol or something to be really carbon neutral. Tsk Tsk.
Andi,
In your promised update, would you please remember let us know your final cost for materials? Thanks!
That El Camino that DirkH and others posted links to is an absolute beauty, but I’m seeing a lot of expensive stainless steel on that particular conversion and that means big $$$. Let’s see how much it costs someone who is tight with their money.
I suppose that when you’re done, instead of pulling into a gas/petrol station and saying “Fill ‘er up,” you’ll have to stop at the garden store and say “Two bags of mulch, please.” ;o)
What you describe isn’t producer gas. In the 19th C and more than half the 20th C – producer gas was generated from blast air and coke to heat horizontal and vertical retorts to produce coal gas, coke and coal tar from ranking coals.The process consisted of heating a rotating bed of hot coke with air to produce CO and N2 (blast); a fefinement was the introduction of an endothermic steam run to produce water gas. The producers were run cyclically to be self sustaining in heat balance. During the war in England coke trailers were towed behind buses generating producer gas to ‘drive’ the bus.
This is from memory but full details are available from the Institute of Gas Engineers or the Institute of Fuel (now Energy).
Wonderfull. I am back in the war (’40-’45) . My father drove a car with wood as fuel!