National Weather Service Union warns people will die because of budget cuts

Update: Senator Harry Reid laments the loss of the “Cowboy Poetry Festival” due to federal budget cuts.  Seems that there is indeed some fat to be cut from the proposed $3.7 trillion budget.

The National Weather Service Employees Organization needs your help to protect against the draconian budget cuts suggested by the House for the rest of FY11. From the Member News website:

(March 7, 2011) The Senate Appropriations Committee has released a proposed alternative to HR 1 that would make a $110 million reduction to NOAA operations for the remainder of the fiscal year, rather than the $454 reduction approved by the House. Of the $110 million cut, $104 million was from earmarks that are no longer funded. This effectively only cuts the NOAA ORF budget by $6 million.

The Senate Appropriations Committee justified the higher funding levels for NOAA stating in their March 4 press release, “The House cuts an additional $340 million which would threaten critical weather forecasts and warnings.”

The sample form letter to Boehner and Cantor follows:

Dear Mr. Speaker (for Speaker John Boehner) OR

Dear Mr. Cantor (for Rep. Eric Cantor)

I am writing to ask you to support the Senate’s proposal for NOAA’s budget. This proposal will help NOAA and the National Weather Service continue the mission of saving lives and property.

The Senate’s proposal includes responsible funding levels in stark contrast to the draconian cuts included in HR1. HR1 would have resulted in the following impacts on the National Weather Service:

  • Reduced staffing at Weather Forecast Offices and River Forecast Centers would result in incomplete forecast production which could prove disastrous in a significant weather event. Even in the best of cases, it will still mean incomplete forecast production at WFOs that have major product workloads for aviation, marine, tropical and public services.
  • This is going to have a negative impact on the economy and on almost every aspect of our daily lives. There will be a large scale economic impact on aviation, agriculture, and the cost shipping food and other products.
  • Service backup of 24 Weather Forecasting Offices has never been tested and runs a very significant risk of a missed tornado, flood or severe weather warning. It is risking lives at the onset of both tornadoes and hurricane season. This is also doubling the area of responsibility for operations and adds the risk of degraded service delivery.
  • The National Hurricane Center is not immune to these cuts as furloughs and staffing cuts will add strain to the program. The Hurricane Hunter Jet, which provides lifesaving data and helps determine a hurricane’s path, could also be eliminated.
  • Information that is vital for weather modeling and accurate tornado watches and warnings will be reduced and in some cases lost. Reduced upper air observations currently made twice a day could be reduced to once every other day. Buoy and surface weather observations, the backbone of most of the weather and warning systems, may be temporarily or permanently discontinued.

Recent advances in aviation weather forecasting have resulted in as much as a 50 percent reduction in weather related flight delays. The Senate’s proposal for funding will help progressive programs such as these continue and may, in turn, prove beneficial to strengthening the economy.

For the safety of our citizens, the protection of property, and the large scale economic impact on aviation, agriculture, and commerce, I am asking you to vote in support the Senate’s proposal for NOAA’s budget.

Sincerely,

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Bill Hopkins, the NWS Employees Organization vice president predicts lives will be affected and lost because of the budget cuts. From KSAT12 ABC in San Antonio:

Bill Hopkins, vice president of the NWS Employees Organization, said the public may be in real danger a House bill is passed that would slash The National Weather Service’s budget by $126 million.”It could potentially lead to a loss of lives, not necessarily in San Antonio, but it could in other parts of the county,” Hopkins said.Local NWS offices would likely deal with rolling closures and furloughs, leaving the Corpus Christi NWS office to take over issuing warnings for the San Antonio area.”Not only will they be watching your area, but they will also be watching their area, and there will be no increase in personnel to do this,” Hopkins said.The national NWS office said President Obama has opposed to such harsh cuts. Hopkins said the cuts would significantly affect those along the Gulf Coast.”The National Hurricane Center would be reduced to 32 hours a week,” Hopkins said.There would also be far fewer hurricane hunter flights, which are often vital parts of hurricane forecasts.According to Hopkins, large amounts of weather data would be lost.”Can you imagine flying into an airport and they lose all their surface data? There’s really drastic impacts in this cut,” Hopkins said.

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Mark_K
March 8, 2011 11:32 am

No doubt, since they’re so concerned, the NWS Employee Organization members will volunteer to work for less wages in order to save those lives.

Gordon Ford
March 8, 2011 11:32 am

If you don’t give us the money we want, people will die. Sounds like civil service blackmail to me.

March 8, 2011 11:34 am

…maybe it’s a good time to privatize the whole thing & get that part of the budget down to zero!
Hard to believe a word they say on this issue. Is it just more alarmism or are there true dangers to cutting services???

T Braunlich
March 8, 2011 11:34 am

More alarmism. There must be cuts. Everyone will have to make do with less. The sky will not fall. Deal with it.

ew-3
March 8, 2011 11:37 am

The people in this country are starting to get really tired of big government. Actions like this by a union during such a difficult economic time are fueling a reaction not seen in the past. Part of it is certainly the availability of information via the Internet. Just yesterday an item appeared in the NY Post, which might have been seen outside the local area and hard copy readership, about a Syosset NY School Supervisor that was getting a pay and benefits package of over $500K per year. That is unbelievable ! The average teacher in Syosett NY makes $79,065 not counting benefits.
Having this data available on line is feeding a growing anger in the population.
For the National Weather Service Employees Organization to bring this up is a classic case of a tin ear.

Theo Barker
March 8, 2011 11:37 am

How about cutting from the top?

tarpon
March 8, 2011 11:38 am

The demise of the American taxpayer means nothing to big government.

Todd B
March 8, 2011 11:43 am

Leave the budgets alone for the weather prediction employees and instead cut ALL of their climate prediction / global warming research. Same should be done with NASA.

joe
March 8, 2011 11:44 am

The tornado’s will come regardless of the budget. An extra warning (no guarantee) would be nice but the world survived without them (and still does since there are not always early warnings).

RichF
March 8, 2011 11:45 am

I’m all for scrapping the NOAA. There is NO reason that what they do needs to be done by government.

Larry Sheldon
March 8, 2011 11:47 am

If that means we won’t get the screechy Flash Flood Warnings every time somebody’s dog pees, and I won’t get any more panicky calls from newcomers about the tornado warnings because somebody saw a lightening bolt[1]
[1] “W!hatsho!uldId!oWHA!TSHO!ULDID!O!!!!?”
Answer step 1, turn off the TV set.
Answer step 2, remember that you are calling from a house that has been standing for more than a hundred years.
Answer step 3, note that across the street there is a High School with a big-fing siren on the roof.
Answer step 4, if the siren starts to howl, take your radio, your cellphone, some blankets, the animals, any other humans in the house and something to drink to the basement and sit under one of the big beams that holds the place up.

Larry Sheldon
March 8, 2011 11:50 am

I forgot to include my point!
“….because somebody saw a lightening bolt[1]”
If the hype, hoopla and death-dealing panics are reduced, I am all for it.

Garry
March 8, 2011 11:56 am

I will simply ask informed people whom I trust what they think of this proposal.
Anthony? Joe?
Your call.

Caleb
March 8, 2011 11:57 am

Transfer all the money Hansen is blowing over at NASA over to NOAA. Get NASA focused on having rockets get into orbit, rather than falling into the sea. Why is NASA so involved in recording temperatures, anyway?

DD More
March 8, 2011 11:59 am

Recent advances in aviation weather forecasting have resulted in as much as a 50 percent reduction in weather related flight delays.
Sounds like nomenclature to me. From one day in Feb
WEATHER HAVOC: 19 Different Airlines Have Canceled 100 Or More Flights Today
Gregory White | Feb. 2, 2011, 3:04 PM
Today’s winter weather has forced 19 airlines to cancel 100 flights or more, according to data from Flight Aware. The hardest hit airport is Chicago’s O’Hare, which has had 932 departures and 1,085 arrivals canceled. American Eagle (a division of AMR) has called off the most flights, with 802 cancellations.
http://www.businessinsider.com/19-airlines-have-cancelled-100-flights-or-more-today-2011-2
See some of the list http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/4d49b78b4bd7c81d271c0000/chart.jpg
Isn’t amazing that the union takes a budget reduction to cut current forecasting and not running their stupid useless models?

Neo
March 8, 2011 11:59 am

The Byrd Amendment, 31 U.S.C. ‘1352, (the “Act” or “Byrd Amendment”), prohibits the use of appropriated funds by recipients of a “Federal contract” for purposes of influencing or attempting to influence federal officials in connection with a “Federal action,” such as the awarding of a “Federal contract.” The Act prohibits “contractors” from using appropriated funds for lobbying in connection with a contract, grant, loan or cooperative agreement with a Federal agency. Furthermore, the Act requires the “contractor” to disclose to the Federal agency involved its lobbying activities connected with such “contract,” grant or loan when the “contract” amount exceeds $100,000 regardless of whether the activities are funded with appropriated funds”.

Frank K.
March 8, 2011 12:06 pm

Todd B says:
March 8, 2011 at 11:43 am
“Leave the budgets alone for the weather prediction employees and instead cut ALL of their climate prediction / global warming research. Same should be done with NASA.”
Agreed. Can anyone tell me what are the critical climate “products” that are generated by NOAA’s “climate service” that we just can’t live without???
BTW – they’re worried about losing $454 million in funding. Didn’t NASA just blow well over $500 million on the GLORY satellite fiasco???

Latitude
March 8, 2011 12:08 pm

Ryan Maue says:
March 8, 2011 at 11:52 am
Harry Reid is more concerned with the Cowboy Poetry Festival.
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liberals are going to die…………………………./sarc

vboring
March 8, 2011 12:10 pm

The budget problems are health care and retirement.
If current trends continue, they will be the budget and every other government activity will have to be eliminated.
If you’re talking about the budget without talking about health care and retirement costs, you’re not talking about the budget.

bobbyj0708
March 8, 2011 12:16 pm

This may sound mean but if a person dies because he missed out on hearing a weather report he probably won’t be missed much anyhow…

ddpalmer
March 8, 2011 12:16 pm

If there services are really that vital to avaition and agriculture, then shouldn’t (and wouldn’t) aviation and agriculture be willing to pay for these services?
True if they did pay for them they would pass the costs on to us as their customers, but if it was forced to compete in the free market I bet the cost and accuracy would come down.

kbray in california
March 8, 2011 12:18 pm

“I am writing to ask you to support the Senate’s proposal for NOAA’s budget. This proposal will help NOAA and the National Weather Service continue the mission of saving lives and property.”
… ’cause if we are not paid, the first storm you will see is us “going postal”!
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Going_postal

ddpalmer
March 8, 2011 12:18 pm

That should have been;
the cost would come down and the accuracy would go up.

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