Jan 8, 2010
From Bishop HillThis morning I contacted Norfolk Constabulary with a view to finding out if they had yet ascertained whether the breach at the Climatic Research Unit was a leak or a hack. I have just received a response which is frankly amazing:
Norfolk Constabulary continues its investigations into criminal offences in relation to a data breach at the University of East Anglia. During the enquiry officers have been working in liaison with the Office of the Information Commissioner and with officers from the National Domestic Extremism Team. The UEA continues to co-operate with the enquiry however major investigations of this nature are of necessity very detailed and as a consequence can take time to reach a conclusion. It would be inappropriate to comment further at this stage.
The National Domestic Extremism Team? Words fail me.
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…forgive them for they know not what they do.
Bureaucratic gobbly-de-gook, version 1.1
Well we are talking CAGW – that’s fairly extreme.
I thought englishmen at once wrote to their MP about their concerns..
From alarmism to extremism… Al Gore tried that one already and it did not work.
Anyone placing bets it was Briffa?
Well. There you have it. Deniers are obviously dangerous extremists!
Denying AGW must be up there with denying the holocaust or threatening religious leaders.
We DID all think AGW was a religion. Now it’s certain!
I note with considerable interest that the National Coordinator for Domestic Extremism” is officially NOT combating “terrorism” or “crime” or criminal behavior” or ” criminal investigation,” nor is it even intersted in Justice” or “Service” …
But this “Extremism” thing? That has got to be fought with all the terror of a government agency!
Phil Jones may be left wing but I wouldn’t call him or his team extremist!
Now you know why the whistleblower will never come forward voluntarily. Britain is not free any longer. Read George Orwell’s book 1984 for more details of where Britain is headed.
…forgive them not, for they know excatly what they do.
It means that all the secret services of the developed nations must be tracking WUWT closely because it’s the center of the sceptics conspiracy. My, they might all become sceptics reading the discussions here…
Boys, you’re welcome!
From a Guadian article
“The third leg of the trio, the National Domestic Extremism Team, was set up in 2005 and consists of detectives who help police forces around the UK.
Initially, the team focused on animal rights activists, but has fanned out to look at any crimes “linked to single issue-type causes and campaigns”, Setchell said.
The team draws on intelligence from the NPOIU database and, the Guardian has learned, is located on the seventh floor of 10 Victoria Street in central London, a building previously occupied by the Department of Trade and Industry.”
Just posted this on CA so forgive the cross-posting.
Never heard of them. There’s a definition here though:
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/output/domestic-extremism.html
It could be this…
http://www.netcu.org.uk/default.jsp
…which seems to be some sort of Quango rather than a branch of the police.
I’m going to Norwich tomorrow to watch the mighty Canaries, so I’ll keep an eye out for any balaclava-wearing anti-climate change hacker terrorists.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/25/police-surveillance-protest-domestic-extremism
What is an Information Commissar–I mean Commissioner? Is that sort of like the Minister of Propaganda? How interesting that the UK even has one.
This quote from the National Domestic Extremism website leaves me wondering if they will be investigating acts committed towards or acts committed by Hadley CRU:
From their website: What is domestic extremism?
….
The terms are generally used to describe the activity, individuals or campaign groups that carry out criminal acts of direct action in furtherance of a campaign. These people and activities usually seek to prevent something from happening or to change legislation or domestic policy, but attempt to do so outside of the normal democratic process.
Sadly, the Nazi element survived WWII unscathed and have been making inroads ever since.
Once the state takes pre-eminence over the individual, corporations become the “most valuable” citizenry and their interests and concerns supercede the consideration for individual liberty and integrity.
Were our societies to promote individual rights and freedoms, that would preclude forcing our “objectives” on foreign countries and greatly lessen if not remove the need for terror either external or domestic.
Somewhere, some spin-ster is finding ways to convince you that your sacrifice is needed to ensure the survival of your way of life (that will be lived by someone else, of course).
Climategate is an indication of how our baser instincts have been co-opted to side with the interests of those in power and control. Science has rarely seen darker days since the inquisition.
It was formed I believe to counter the attacks on labs by animal rights groups.
MI5 have a team dedicated to infiltrating and eliminating animal rights activists, anti-nuclear nutters and the like.
Why not add AGW denialists to the list.
Sounds crazy but with this governments attitude any of us on this site could get a knock on the door from Special Branch.
When contacted, the official spokesperson, Bart Simpson explained, “I didn’t do it, no one saw me do it and you can’t prove anything”. However, crime scene tape has gone up at the local Kwikie-mart as investigators check the temperature of squishies. Film at 11.
Moderator:
National Domestic Extremism website accidentally left off my post
http://www.netcu.org.uk/de/default.jsp
A whistleblower in the UK is considered a “domestic extremist” apparently. George Orwell would understand.
http://www.netcu.org.uk/about/about.jsp
http://www.leics.police.uk/advice/2_information_zone/67_national_extremism_tactical_coordination_unit/
I posted something similiar at Bishop Hill’s but thought I’d cross-post it here – the Information Commissioner’s Office has responsibility for:
“Data Protection Act
The Data Protection Act gives you the right to know what information is held about you, and sets out rules to make sure that this information is handled properly.
Privacy and electronic communications
The Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations set out rules for people who wish to send you electronic direct marketing, for example, email and text messages.
Freedom of Information Act
The Freedom of Information Act gives you the right to obtain information held by public authorities unless there are good reasons to keep it confidential.
Environmental Information Regulations
The Environmental Information Regulations give you the right to obtain information about the environment held by public authorities, unless there are good reasons to keep it confidential.”
(www.ico.gov.uk)
They have no apparent responsibility for hacking/leaking of data. The only area of expertise that ICO has that is relevant to the case is the FOI piece.
A quick bit of Googling suggests that if hacking was being investigated then either the e-Crime section of SOCA or the Police Central e-crime Unit (PCeU) which is a part of the Metropolitan Police would be involved.. If either of these organisations were to be involved one would expect it to be included in the press release from Norfolk Constabulary.
To my mind the statement suggests that they are investigating the FOI breaches as much as the leaking/hacking of the data in the first place.