From ABC/Reuters
China has told participants in the UN climate change talks that it sees no possibility of reaching an operational accord this week, an official involved in the Copenhagen talks says.
The official, who asked not to be identified by name, told Reuters that the Chinese had suggested instead issuing “a short political declaration of some sort”.
The statement from the world’s biggest polluter comes less than 24 hours before most world leaders are due to join the climate change talks in Copenhagen, where ministers and negotiators have made only modest progress at best.
Talks have been stalled by a widening rift between developing nations and the developed world.
Earlier Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said it was possible that there would be progress on other issues such as emission cuts during the next day or so.
“I have a sense that as more heads of government arrive here in Copenhagen, that we will make some more progress. But can I just say, as I said yesterday, success at this Copenhagen conference is by no means guaranteed,” he said.
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No word yet on if Obama still plans to attend at the end.
h/t to WUWT reader “Spence Canada”
So did I scoop ya. Be good to confirm this elsewhere. Nothing in other MSM about this yet.
REPLY: Actually yours was the second tip to come in, but the first one was not in English and rather short. -Anthony
The people in the photo remind me of that activist in the 70’s, I think it was Dick Gregory, who said he was not going to eat solid food until every nuclear power plant in the US was shut down. To this pronouncement Richard Pryor noted that “That is going to be one hungry _ _ _ _ _ _.”
This is what we really need now. Someone who is a fearless comedian to make a laughing stock out of this entire thing.
Someone already leaked the statement: click
Yea for the CHINESE!
I hope I can get my dream fullfilled.
I have 20 years of experience in Nuclear power. I’ve been involved in every aspect of modifying, building, maintaining nuclear power plants.
I want to go to China and help them build their first 100 plants.
And then explain that it should be expanded to 500 plants.
I also have a way to build that that will mimic the “Liberty Ships”. <3 years for
each plant. 100 plants on line in < 6 years, the next 200 in 4 years, and the last 200 in 3 years.
China: 100% nuclear electric in 13 years. It can be done.
The Russians EMBARRASSED the USA into proper directions in the 50's (the space program, the renovating of science education in the schools, the interstate (defense) highway system).
It would be GREAT if China were to help the US again.
PS: Whether you understand or not, they already HAVED just helped the USA!
How long before this is filed under, “for entertainment only?”
Is Obama still going to give a speech? I don’t think so.
By the way Anthony thanks for all the work you do. I have already chipped in once and will do so again as I can, regardless of where this all ends up. All the best of the Christmas season!
Ben Santer works for Lawrence Livermore laboratory on TV.
This is all extremely interesting. I think it raises much more fundamental questions than the end of AGW theory. I think we could be witnessing the beginning of the end of the UN itself, that bloated, dysfunctional and corrupt bureaucracy, rife with nepotism. Apparently Chavez and Mugabe received an ecstatic welcome at the conference.
This is an interesting development.
But it will be difficult to figure out the consequences. There is little or no rational thought at the Copenhagen Climate Conference.
E..g., speakers like Al Gore and the above picture of protesters.
Scientists and politicians form a strange couple indeed!
With kind regards,
Oliver K. Manuel
A complete failure would be my guess.
Hope the politicality of this comment won’t offend, but the ChiComs certainly seem to have wrong-footed Obama on this one. Does turn back Air Force One and do loop-the-loops over Manhattan, or cary on to Hopenchangen and declare victory (before going home)
“Jack Green (19:34:43) :
Is Obama still going to give a speech? I don’t think so.”
All over radio this morning here in Australia, Obama is going to turn up towards the end in an attempt to rectify the situation there. Tony Bliar, Gordon Brown, KRudd747, Mzzz Wrong and Mzzz Gillard all failed so far.
If accurate, it’s the best Christmas Gift we could ever expect from this Carbon Trade Show. I’d love to see Obama ignore this as he has the CRUtape letters and make an even bigger fool of himself proclaiming he will save the planet. I’m sure the Polar Bear Guy would put it in his movie.
Mark Hugoson (19:33:07) : wrote
Yea for the CHINESE!
I hope I can get my dream fullfilled.
I have 20 years of experience in Nuclear power. I’ve been involved in every aspect of modifying, building, maintaining nuclear power plants.”
Marc,
Could used up copper mines be used to store nuclear waste? Some of them go almost one mile in the ground and are already dug.
It’s over.
The UN is hoping Barack Obama will save the conference and establish a one world government.
http://www.iceagenow.com/UN_Chief-We_will_impose_global_governance.htm
This is the same UN that some republicans like Mike Huckabee is now saying the US should bail from (and their promotion of the AGW scam should be one big reason)
It feels good to be right.
cbullitt (19:52:49) : wrote
“If accurate, it’s the best Christmas Gift we could ever expect from this Carbon Trade Show. I’d love to see Obama ignore this as he has the CRUtape letters and make an even bigger fool of himself proclaiming he will save the planet. I’m sure the Polar Bear Guy would put it in his movie.”
This is what I’m hoping for too, to seal his fate. I really want to see BO make a laughing stock of himself on this issue, just like Gore. I’m sure though BO’s teleprompter writers have two different scripts for him to read. Which one will BO choose, the one with the red cover or the one with the blue cover? I’m going to need more popcorn.
I say good for the Chinese too. If they ever want to get paid back the money owed by the USA, they have taken a positive step by at least slowing down this looting of the US treasury. The current administration will never pay them back.
IMHO,
Mike
I wonder why nobody raised this in the meeting…
“The European Union (EU) Emission Trading System (ETS) has been the victim of fraudulent traders in the past 18 months. This resulted in losses of approximately 5 billion euros for several national tax revenues. It is estimated that in some countries, up to 90% of the whole market volume was caused by fraudulent activities. ”
http://www.europol.europa.eu/index.asp?page=news&news=pr091209.htm
Check the date out… If this came out in the mainstream media before the conference – it would never have started! ETS is dead as a dodo.
cheers
Hopenchangen -put a chop-stick in it -it’s done/
What an amusingly verbose message on that poster. No wonder the whole thing is falling in a heap. If you can’t come up with a decent slogan that isn’t 13 words long you don’t have a chance. “Hide the decline” is not a bad one to try…
Between UN incompetence, the belligerence of the NGOs and the genuine division on policy it’s actually becoming easy to imagine that an international climate deal is not probable.
Ross
I have been thinking lots about the world after Copenhagen, if, as it now appears, it will be a complete failure. There will be a number of investigations including:
– The UN and its IPCC
– The whole entity called Climate Change Science
– Those members of that guild who have been shown to be actively cooking the books, already in process I think.
– Governmental environmental departments and their associated agencies for collusion
– The MSM for the same.
It will also mean:
– The revival of proper environmental science
– The severe marginalization of the left in all democratic societies.
– Criminal charges and imprisonments will happen
Besides these investigations the following will happen:
– It will ultimately mean a change of governments in, at least, England, Australia and the US
– The EU will fall apart
– End of the UN as we know it
– Law suits will abound against some universities and government agencies who have supported pseudo science with our tax dollars.
One can hope!
Anthony,
As I don’t know you except by way of your blog, I was having trouble figuring out what to get you for Christmas.
So….I finally decided on a high quality engraving of Ulysses Simpson Grant.
Best wishes to you and the team at WUWT!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
And my God Bless us, each and every one.
Steamboat Jack