After being called out by WUWT on the fake biotelemtery readings presented as “live” but were actually from March 8th looping repeatedly, Team Catlin had changed the website to say:
“Biometrics – Data for March 8th 2009
Status: Operational”
This is what it originally showed:
I think it is the most honest description yet.
Of course they could just end the farce and remove it. Because, well, who needs demonstrational biotelemetry anyway?
UPDATE: they also posted this at the bottom of the main page:
An apology
We’d like to apologise to anybody who felt misled by our recent biometric data. The data was initially displayed in error in a way that gave the impression that it was live. The intended qualification and explanation that it was, in fact, delayed information, was at first missing. We have subsequently corrected this with specific information concerning the above data. We apologise for the errors and to anyone who may have found the data misleading.
The real question is: how long would they have let that “live” impression go on had WUWT not called them on it? Originally the URL for the “biotelemetry” was
http://www.catlinarcticsurvey.com/live_from_the_ice.aspx
Now that URL if typed in your browser is automatically redirected to:
http://www.catlinarcticsurvey.com/latestfromtheice
So with the words “telemetry” and “live_from_the_ice.aspx” it is clear what the original intent was. The apology is about saving face, nothing else.
Color me unimpressed. They should take down their farcical “biometrics” and call the team home, there’s no science being done here, only public relations, and even that is poorly done.
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I’ll give them credit for creating nice marketing fluff. The website is really nice. A better description might be nice propaganda.
They are either very naive programmers with this bio data or they knew all along it was fake.
B U S T E D
I am so embarrassed that I actually watched this (cough) telemetry.
I felt ‘connected’ to these zealots.
Actually, I was enjoying the fact that Pen Hadow’s core temp was lower than the others and watched entranced as I waited for end stage hypothermia to set in.
Gee. I kinda miss my hope for that change.
Isn’t that what Steig, Mann, Hansen, et al should have stamped in large letters at the top of all of their “studies”? Just askin’… 😉
Is there not a legal principle that states,” Lie once, everything is a lie ” ?.
Too bad that the people who set this up are sipping latte’s in airconditioned offices and their dupes are in -40 deg C conditions on the Arctic Icecap.
Catlin Artic Ice Survey bio telemetry status: “fabricational”
Do ya suppose their ice thickness data should also be categorized as “demonstrational”?
OT: News Alert just out from the science journal Nature:
Disease in a warming climate—Fears of a global rise in infectious conditions may be unfounded.
by Lila Guterman
Climate change takes the blame for many dim future prospects: rising sea levels, more frequent droughts and disappearing glaciers, to name just a few. But perhaps the warming trend should be absolved of responsibility for a predicted bump in the global burden of infectious disease.
Demonstrational: “What we would have if we actually had live data from the ice like we claimed”
Does this mean their ice hole data is “demonstrational” too…
Fake but “accurate” !
That’s it. The science is settled.
Speaking of ridiculae: UW researchers find weather forecasts confuse the public
Cathy (19:50:15) :
. . . Actually, I was enjoying the fact that Pen Hadow’s core temp was lower than the others and watched entranced as I waited for end stage hypothermia to set in.
That’s cold, Cathy.
This is starting to turn into a PR disaster. The “live_from_the_ice” link now forwards you to “latestfromtheice” because the word “live” has been exposed as BS (and deliberate, intentional, preplanned BS at that). The ice thickness measuring device won’t work so the measurements won’t be worth a tinkers dam. The hike to the north pole won’t actually be to the north pole.
Absolutely every aspect of this “expedition” has been a complete bust. They aren’t going to do what they planned and much of it has been exposed as a deliberate fraud. The whole thing is starting to remind me of “The Producers.”
“Springtime for Hikers” indeed.
The whole thing should be classified as science fiction and reported on accordingly. Of course Mother Nature’s reality is a much harsher critic than any a fictional writer might encounter. But the propaganda points from this venture is what they’re aiming for in any case.
This metaphor for the AGW scam gets better all the time. What a joke.
Steve Huntwork (19:40:32) :
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The ice is definitely thinner though. That’s definitely not demonstrational, because it will soon be “PEER”-reviewed, by Larry, Moe and Curly.
HELLO, earth to general public …… are you getting AGW yet ?????
It’s a crock of robust.
Well I at least have to give them credit for making a limited if late effort to clean that up some. They could have trotted out a “Baghdad Bob” PR guy to try to blow smoke up the communities —- Uhhhh — well you know.
I also find it interesting that the hard core AGW folks have stayed at arms length from this one too.
Better late than never but you only get one shot to establish credibility, and the best way to do that in a web blog world is to be as open and responsive as possible. No one expects error free “science” but it does not wash well when people keep seeing shoes behind the curtain and wonder what is really going on.
In all honesty I feel sorry for the three intrepid explorers I still think they are a bit in over their head and are suffering to serve a PR agenda and a highly questionable research project.
In a web wired world this sort of thing lives for ever in web archives, and could taint everything these folks touch from now on.
Larry
“Demonstrational” : also applicable to Hansen’s models!
Congratulations Anthony.
It was to be expected, given the evidence demonstrated here in WUWT. Nevertheless, you’re now clearly exposing how they were originally deceiving the public.
Engineers who write here should analyze the rest of this history. Those who know on radars, ice drills, survival equipment, etc.
I had liked to contribute a bit more on this subject here; nevertheless, I was busy with a teeth problem which, thanks to the auspices of a dentist friend, has been partially settled. I hope she (the dentist) won’t be in demonstrational mode.
Frank K — Does this mean their ice hole data is “demonstrational” too…
Everything those ice holes do is demonstrational.
Why is it these global warming knuckleheads always have to resort to lying??
I guess my question is why are they still there?
I wonder if they are suffering from snow dementia. We had an engineer get lost in a white out a couple of years ago, by the time search and rescue found him 2 days later he was sure that they were there to kill him and had all sorts of weird stories. They literally had to tackle him and sedate him to get him to safety.. I wonder if this same thing is happening to our entrepid explorers. It seems to me if your instruments are broken and your proposed course consists of two steps forward one step back movement ending in a zig zag pattern, any of the supposed info would be bust anyhow. So again.. why are they still there?
Shades of “Johnny Dangerously” ? :^)=)