Snow blankets London for Global Warming debate – first October Snow in over 70 years

Two Stories for you, one about the snow itself, and the other about climate law being debated and passed in the middle of the unusual snow.- Anthony

London has first October snow in over 70 years

From the Guardian

Cold snap causes flight cancellations while a motorway accident kills one driver and causes severe disruption

Parts of south-east England had more than an inch of snow last night while London experienced its first October snowfall in more than 70 years as winter conditions arrived early.

Snow settled on the ground in parts of the capital last night as temperatures dipped below zero. A Met Office spokeswoman said it was London’s first October snow since 1934.

For greater south-east of England it was the first October snow since 1974. High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire had 3cm (1.2 inches). One of the coldest temperatures recorded was -4.1C in Benson, Oxfordshire.

“It is unusual to have snow this early,” the Met spokeswoman said. “In October 2003 sleet and snow was recorded in Northern Ireland, Wales, south-west, north-west and north-east England and the Midlands, but it was mainly over higher ground.”

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How Parliament passed the Climate Bill (in spite of the weather)

Excerpt: Snow fell as the House of Commons debated Global Warming yesterday – the first October fall in the metropolis since 1922. The Mother of Parliaments was discussing the Mother of All Bills for the last time, in a marathon six hour session.

In order to combat a projected two degree centigrade rise in global temperature, the Climate Change Bill pledges the UK to reduce its carbon dioxide emissions by 80 per cent by 2050. The bill was receiving a third reading, which means both the last chance for both democratic scrutiny and consent.

The bill creates an enormous bureaucratic apparatus for monitoring and reporting, which was expanded at the last minute. Amendments by the Government threw emissions from shipping and aviation into the monitoring program, and also included a revision of the Companies Act (c. 46) “requiring the directors’ report of a company to contain such information as may be specified in the regulations about emissions of greenhouse gases from activities for which the company is responsible” by 2012.

Recently the American media has begun to notice the odd incongruity of saturation media coverage here which insists that global warming is both man-made and urgent, and a British public which increasingly doubts either to be true. 60 per cent of the British population now doubt the influence of humans on climate change, and more people than not think Global Warming won’t be as bad “as people say”.

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Rick Sharp
October 29, 2008 9:22 pm

Timing is everything…

evanjones
Editor
October 29, 2008 9:31 pm

Were we ever colder on that day
A million miles away
It seemed from all eternity
The moments seemed lost in all the noise
A snow storm a stimulating voice

hereticfringe
October 29, 2008 9:32 pm

Let it snow! Let it snow! Let it snow!
I just love the irony!

October 29, 2008 9:35 pm

Anyone else notice Accuweather’s headline today “Winter Lingers in the Northeast” referring to–like this London report–the “unseasonal” weather in the USA?
Winter LINGERS? Since winter is officially still more than a month away, were they referring to LAST winter lingering? Through the whole summer?
Or since the folks at Accuweather are GW Alarmists, maybe they were referring to winter as a season in general, implying that winter is simply “lingering” awhile longer but will eventually stop showing up at all.
Who knows?

TerryBixler
October 29, 2008 9:38 pm

A once proud country humbled and on their knees to AGW. Even with deeper snow and cold the religion will be believed.

anna v
October 29, 2008 9:44 pm

Μωραινει Κυριος ον βουλεται απολεσαι
Which translated word by word is “God turns into an idiot whom (He) wants to destroy”.
Well, laws can be repealed. 2050 is a number of parliaments away.
[REPLY: Our adroit turn of that phrase is: “Whom Gods destroy, they first make mad.” ~ Evan]

evanjones
Editor
October 29, 2008 9:50 pm

Parliament has bitten off more than it can chew. Unless there is some serendipitous technological breakthrough, those goals are not going to be met. And if the recent cooling trend continues, the public is going to rise up and smite the miscreants.
Oh, I’m goin’ where the climate suits my clothes,
I’m goin’ where the climate suits my clothes.
(There he goes! )
Oh, I’m goin’ where the climate suits my clothes.
Oh, I ain’t gonna be treated thisaway!

Graeme Rodaughan
October 29, 2008 9:51 pm

While I feel very sorry for the people of the UK, and I would not be suprised to hear of people freezing to death this winter, the silver lining is as follows.
It makes me feel sick to say this…
If there is a clear indication of economic suicide by a major western nation that can’t be mistaken for anything else – it will give an opportunity for the rest of us to realise the folly before we follow the UK down this path.
I hope something intervenes to stop so many being hurt by the folly of the few.

Graeme Rodaughan
October 29, 2008 9:54 pm

I hope Evan is right.
With a bit of luck the UK public will decide it’s all too hard and start preparing for the (coal…) cold.
Building a few coal power stations will not only keep the UK warm in the upcoming harsh winters – but also provide energy security!

P Folkens
October 29, 2008 9:58 pm

I imagine we should be prepared for similar ironies. The anticipated new administration will no doubt bring in Cap-and-Trade at Pelosi’s insistence at a time the real data is showing a reversion to the 20th Century mean temps. Fascinating, isn’t it? The computer modeled predictions are carrying more weight than the actual data. Hansen predicts a 1.2°C warming in 2008 compared with 1988, but the hard data says we’re closer to the 1988 conditions than we are to the model, yet the model seems to find more traction in the opinions of people in power.
If the AWGers get their way and we find the cooling trend of present continues, will they take responsibility for the effects of the cooler conditions — reduced agricultural production and starvation, increased demand on fuels to keep warm, increased cold-related deaths, etc.? Just wonderin’.

Leon Brozyna
October 29, 2008 10:03 pm

And when the River Thames freezes over, it will doubtless still be considered an anomalous event caused by climate change.
Leave it to the Europeans to keep embracing the Precautionary Principle. It truly ought to be named the Sabot Principle, since its real aim is to end change and innovation and sabotage industrial health. For this to be a true principle, it ought to apply to all substances. So, if sufficient quantities of dihydrogen monoxide were to be administered to lab mice, the way other substances are tested, and the mice then die, then the intake and consumption of dihydrogen monoxide ought to be banned. So much for the soundness of this absurd ‘principle’. Since the depths to which politicians can sink in their effort to take care of us poor dumb peasants knows no limit, I’ll not be surprised to one day see a health label on water bottles warning of excess consumption of the product.
Of course, most politicians that pass such silly measures as was cited in the article will probably not be in office in the coming decades. All it will do is damage industry today while having little effect on emissions. Looks like the only people being fooled by their charade are the politicians themselves. But then, this is nothing new nor unique to the UK.

evanjones
Editor
October 29, 2008 10:07 pm

A once proud country humbled and on their knees to AGW. Even with deeper snow and cold the religion will be believed.
Visions of Henry IV vs. Gregory VII . . . ?

Perry Debell
October 29, 2008 10:17 pm

ZaNuLabour leaders are probably looking forward to the deaths of thousands of UK pensioners as a way of avoiding paying old age state pensions and balancing their books. The MSM will be useless and in the spring, the totalitarians will claim their prudent handling of the UK economy is showing results. Allegedly.
As portrayed in a TV series. “You may say that. I couldn’t possibly comment.

realist gun nut
October 29, 2008 10:19 pm

Evan says:

[REPLY: Our adroit turn of that phrase is: “Whom Gods destroy, they first make mad.” ~ Evan]

Hmmm, not so adroit, really.
How about: Gods make mad those they wish to destroy.
One more word than yours but a better flow, I think.

evanjones
Editor
October 29, 2008 10:23 pm

If the AWGers get their way and we find the cooling trend of present continues, will they take responsibility for the effects of the cooler conditions — reduced agricultural production and starvation, increased demand on fuels to keep warm, increased cold-related deaths, etc.? Just wonderin’.

When my fist clenches, crack it open
Before I use it and lose my cool
When I smile, tell me some bad news
Before I laugh and act like a fool
If I swallow anything evil
Put your finger down my throat
If I shiver, please give me a blanket
Keep me warm, let me wear your coat

No. They don’t get away with it. Not this time.

Graeme Rodaughan
October 29, 2008 10:26 pm

P F,
I won’t hold my breath….
However I do grant that it would be possible for someone to come out and sincerely apologise – A true believer who has a damascus type reversal may make a public apology.
However the conmen and charlatans will never admit being at fault.

Richard111
October 29, 2008 10:41 pm

Pensioners in the UK will die of cold because they can’t afford heating costs.
I am beginning to suspect this is deliberate. It will reduce pressure on
pension funds and the NHS and free up much needed housing.

October 29, 2008 10:42 pm

Jolly chilly over here at the moment. Had to wipe snow off my car at 2pm today.
I had a little go at this topic a couple of days ago:
http://thefatbigot.blogspot.com/2008/10/simple-matter-of-duty.html

evanjones
Editor
October 29, 2008 10:46 pm

Same here in The City.
The T-Max is freezing my G-Max!
(And the NAO is FMAO.)

Richard deSousa
October 29, 2008 11:04 pm

The UK is being lead by idiots and the US is soon to follow since both Obama and McCain are proglobal warmers. Both countries are in for a nasty surprise if we experience another Dalton Minimum.

October 29, 2008 11:38 pm

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JamesF
October 30, 2008 12:02 am

The UK is about to embark on a huge nuclear power station construction programme. With such high GHG reduction targets, the greenies won’t be able to stop it. Could this be part of the strategy?

Michael of Brisbane
October 30, 2008 12:20 am

We have our own homegrown idiots in Australia. Penny Wong and Kevin Rudd announced today the we to will have a “Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme”. It will be introduced in 2010 and will cost every citizen $1.00/day when it starts.
Notice the change in words from CO2 to carbon.
The whole population of Australia accounts for 1.2% of the worlds CO2 output and if we produce absolutely no CO2 China will make enough CO2 to replace our annual output in just two weeks. To reduce it to the levels expected in the green paper will take China just two days to replace our annual output.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24576357-952,00.html
And here is the green paper on this idiotic scheme.
http://www.climatechange.gov.au/greenpaper/factsheets/fs1.html

Phillip Bratby
October 30, 2008 12:32 am

Fortunately, although most politicians and most of the MSM are idiots over here in the UK, there are a lot of people who are not. See “Sheep Vote to Pull the Wool” by Prof Philip Stott (an eminently sensible chap) at http://web.mac.com/sinfonia1/Global_Warming_Politics/A_Hot_Topic_Blog/A_Hot_Topic_Blog.html

Eddi Honda
October 30, 2008 12:34 am

The Gore Effect!
Yesterday evening they showed “An inconvenient thruth” for the first time in german-speaking Free-TV.
Effect: This morning I wake up and look out of the window: Everything covered with snow!
I live in Zurich.
http://www.blick.ch

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