“Super” El Nino Misinformation

From the Cliff Mass Weather Blog

Cliff Mass

The media and social media are abuzz with talk about the upcoming “Super” El Niño, with forecasts of low snowpack, drought conditions, and massive wildfires (see sample below). 

My local newspaper and some amateur social media are making similar claims.

Few of these scary claims are supported by the facts: in reality, the outlook is quite favorable for our region if a “Super El Niño” continues to develop.

Let me prove this to you.

Surprisingly, there is nothing called a “Super El Nino” in the scientific world.  

If the temperature anomaly (difference from normal) of the ocean surface in the tropical Pacific is 1.5 to 2 C above normal, it is called a strong El Niño.  More than 2C, a very strong El Niño.   The media calls this a “super”; the scientific community does not.

Below is the latest forecast by NOAA.  They are predicting a very strong El Niño this autumn (peaking around 2.2 C above normal).  

There is little doubt we will get a very strong El Nino, but this is not unprecedented, with others occurring in 1982-1983, 1997-1998, 2015-2016, and 2023-2024  (others have occurred before as well).

A KEY point is that very strong El Niños are very different animals than their more moderate cousins.  With different impacts.

Moderate to strong El Niños are typically associated with less snowpack and drier-than-normal conditions.

Very strong El Niños bring near-normal snowpack and plenty of moisture.  

Thus, our water resources are generally fine with very strong El Niños like the upcoming winter.

Want the proof?

Below is a plot of precipitation from October to April (our wet season) since 1980.  The red arrows indicate very strong (“super”) El Nino years, and the yellow line is the average of the period (1980 to today).   

Very strong El Niño years are NOT particularly dry… their average is a bit ABOVE NORMAL.

What about snowpack? 

Let’s check out a few sites, looking at April 1 snowpack (which is generally the date used for evaluations).

Crystal Mountain Ski area (around 6000 ft)?  Snowpack during very strong El Niños is nearly normal (horizontal line) during such years.


 The much lower Stampede Pass (4000 ft)?  Same story.  


Even LOWER at Snoqualmie Pass (below).  Same story…nearly normal snowpack during very strong El Niño years!

Very strong El Niño years have near-normal snowpack in our mountains.    I could show you a dozen other locations:  same story.

What about temperature?    Over Washington State at the surface, very strong El Niño years are about 1°F above normal, although one was below normal (2024).

With normal rain and mountain snow during a very strong El Nino year, the expectation is that there will be plenty of water next year for our region’s needs.   

So those predicting drought, drastically reduced snowpack, and enhanced wildfires over the region will have a lot of the proverbial egg on their face next summer.  

So what exactly does a very strong El Niño do to the larger-scale atmospheric circulation around here?     I am a weather scientist and am curious!

Below is the average of the upper-level heights at 500 hPa (think pressure at 18,000 ft), showing the difference from normal for October through March of a very strong El Niño year.  Purple is much lower than normal heights/pressure (a strong trough).

Mama mia!   A HUGE intense low-pressure area over the north Pacific!

Let’s look at the local implications of this intense pattern by examining the difference from normal in the winds around 5000 ft for such a very strong El Nino year (below).    

There are greatly enhanced winds from the southwest offshore, bringing in lots of moisture into the West Coast.  That means more precipitation. NO DROUGHT.

To demonstrate this, below is the difference in precipitation from normal for such very strong El Niño years.   A lot more precipitation over the West Coast, with the greatest increase over northern CA and southern Oregon.   

Our region will be a bit warmer than normal, but the additional moisture should result in near-normal snowpack in the mountains above 3500 ft.  Lots of water to fill reservoirs and moisten the soils.

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17 Comments
Neil Pryke
August 31, 2026 6:08 am

The unscientific sensationalism is strong with these catastrophists…they have far too much bad influence…

Mainly because there are shadowy people who keep throwing money their way…

August 31, 2026 6:12 am

[maca]rONI R.I.P., we hardly knew ye, then poof — in a li’l steam-puff — & ye were a-goner!
Credits: J. Bastardi & his crew at WeatherBell-Analytics

August 31, 2026 6:45 am

Off topic: we’re now gonna have a Climate Youth Council in Wokeachusetts- the little red guards of the climate hoax. https://www.mass.gov/forms/apply-for-the-youth-climate-council

claysanborn
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
August 31, 2026 7:13 am

Dare I go there? Just a few years ago, this coming name would be Jumping the Shark. But: DSA is firmly here in America; so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Youth

Reply to  claysanborn
August 31, 2026 7:18 am

so we now have the Woke Youth, trained to save the planet for green energy companies, illegal aliens, and DEI.

J Boles
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
August 31, 2026 7:28 am
August 31, 2026 6:57 am

Super El Nino video

Tom Johnson
August 31, 2026 6:58 am

The comments I have heard about the effect on
south Texas near us, are that the winter will be wetter and cooler. Wetter would be great since we’re in the midst of several years of less than normal rainfall.

jvcstone
Reply to  Tom Johnson
August 31, 2026 7:11 am

That would be nice–last measurable rainfall around this part of Texas was July 17. Dirt tanks are in need of a recharge.

jshotsky
August 31, 2026 7:00 am

Each time the article uses the word ‘normal’ is an error. The word should be ‘average’ instead. There IS no normal in weather, there are only averages. Some weathercasters actually use average, but many use normal.
The charts make it obvious that there is no normal. Each line is different.
Living in the PNW for the last 50 years tells me that our ‘WEATHER’ is different every year, El Nino or not. Weather is generally delivered by the jet streams, which vary widely over years and are likely not influenced by El Nino. What IS true of El Nino, if you live near the east Pacific, is that the ocean influence is a little warmer on average, when the prevailing winds are from the coast. But all bets are off regarding snow and cold, as those are delivered by the jet stream.

jvcstone
Reply to  jshotsky
August 31, 2026 7:12 am

Only normal I know of was a little cat in the old Garfield strip

Mr.
Reply to  jshotsky
August 31, 2026 8:21 am

Climate is what we’re led to expect.
Weather is what we get.

Now THAT‘s normal.

Ron Long
August 31, 2026 7:13 am

I’m happy the starting Strong El Nino will not be too dynamic in the northern hemisphere. I first came to Mendoza, Argentina, in 1997 and the Strong El Nino of 1997-1998 was incredible. Strong thunderstorms every day, destructive hail storms, and rapid, but localized, flooding. I watched three young guys defy a line of vehicles and cross a flooding river, over a cement “baden”, and turn over and disappear in the raging water. I commonly got a beer and some chips and dip and sat outside on the patio watching the thunderstorms. South America is preparing for an unusually active summer, December through February. Wait for it.

michael fellion
Reply to  Ron Long
August 31, 2026 8:46 am

A whole lot of people simply have no common sense and do the same kinds of things whenever something happens. The military needs that kind of thinking as otherwise nobody would charge the enemy under fire.

Bob Weber
August 31, 2026 7:32 am

Surprisingly, there is nothing called a “Super El Nino” in the scientific world.

The media calls this a “super”; the scientific community does not.

Is Cliff Mass deliberately spreading misinformation or what?

James Hansen coined that term and if he doesn’t represent the climate science world who does?

https://jimehansen.substack.com/p/super-duper-el-nino

Stop misinforming us by blaming the media for what squarely falls on Dr. James Hansen.

michael fellion
Reply to  Bob Weber
August 31, 2026 8:44 am

Hansen is not the leftist media. The media sells news and disinformation to make a buck and live the good life. They simply ran with it as it sounds more doom and gloom which is what sells.

michael fellion
August 31, 2026 8:38 am

The chart shows reduced rain and show in the north east and normal in the midwest so the news was right, drought and fires.