“We are like dwarfs on the shoulders of giants.” — Bernard of Chartres
Two things happened in February that will change the world. The first is the Iran War.
The second is an event so obscure most Americans don’t even know it happened — the Feb. 12 repeal of the 2009 Endangerment Finding by the Trump Administration’s Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). This decision puts a knife into the kidney of all the major U.S. climate rules made under the Obama and Biden administrations. It was the legal underpinning for the Green New Deal.
Of the two events, the end of the Endangerment Finding is of a greater consequence, yet 21st Century conventional wisdom — curated and gatekept by social media, the most unwise medium ever invented — makes it hard to fit one’s head around this argument. But here goes.
The Iran War is costing about $1-2 billion a day in direct costs, and several times that in indirect costs from higher energy prices across most of Europe and Asia, though less so in the United States, which is increasingly energy independent.
Meanwhile, the 2009 Endangerment is one of those “regulatory state” workarounds when Congress doesn’t pass a law or the Supreme Court passes on a tough decision. This administrative decision is the foundation of ALL modern climate regulation and global climate diplomacy. Its reversal has the Trump administration crowing about the $1.3 trillion in savings over the next decade to American citizens through cheaper automobiles, among other things.
This has made a lot of the right people unhappy.
In an interview with The New York Times, Jody Freeman, director of Harvard Law School’s Environmental and Energy Law Program, who happened to design the Endangerment Finding for the Obama White House, said the Trump administration wants “to not just do what other Republican administrations have done, which is weaken regulations. They want to take the federal government out of the business of regulation, period.”
Speaking as someone who worked at the EPA during the first Trump administration, Freeman is wrong. Republicans don’t mind environmental regulation based on good incentives that don’t penalize industries that are politically disfavored through no fault of their own.
But there is a human cost to all regulation that is essentially unpriced, and it is something Freeman and the Left never acknowledge. Federal regulation itself was invented by the government to improve human lives — think the Safe Drinking Water Act, the Clean Air Act, or the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act that ended child labor.
The problem is that future choices forgone, which economists call opportunity costs, are nearly impossible to quantify and constrain, thereby stifling innovation and invention in almost unfathomable ways.
Consider the following counterfactual.
If the U.S. Supreme Court had made privacy laws stricter in the late 1990s, sharing pictures of strangers without their permission would have been illegal. This would have disincentivized early camera phone makers, Sharp and Sanyo, from including cameras in the first smartphones in the early 2000s and would have slowed or even undermined Apple’s decision to build the iPhone.
Less than 25 years after the first U.S. camera phone was released, the total value of mobile technologies and services globally exceeds $7 trillion, representing more than 6% of global GDP. Much of these trillions of dollars of newly created wealth exists in the share price of Silicon Valley firms, and the retirement savings of nearly 100 million Americans and the U.S. economy writ large.
What the Endangerment Finding did was create a domestic legal predicate to treat carbon dioxide as a pollutant under the Clean Air Act. That predicate, in turn, allowed Democratic administrations to commit America to the Paris Agreement and the broader U.N. climate regime that the U.S. Senate was fooled into accepting when it passed the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) in 1992.
It’s quite possible that the global climate regime created under UN sponsorship had a similar effect on energy-intensive industries to that a strict privacy law would have had on smartphones, which became the entry point for billions of people into the digital economy.
And now it’s ending.
By undoing the Endangerment Finding, you don’t just repeal a regulation; you repeal the regulatory superstructure that has saddled the United States with trillions of dollars in opportunity costs and billions in explicit costs every year.
Thus, however costly a short conflict with Iran would be, it hasn’t been nearly as much as the unpriced opportunity costs of the last 30 years under the UN Climate regime.
Once the U.S. is no longer legally bound at home, it can exit the international framework cleanly. And when America leaves, the dominoes fall in order. Russia, China, India, and Saudi Arabia — none of whom ever believed “the planet is dying” rhetoric anyway — will follow suit.
They never saw the climate treaty as anything other than a wealth-transfer mechanism from the West, and now the jig is up for the American Left and the European establishment.
Instead of this transhumanist dystopia, we have the possibility of returning meaningful heavy industry to the U.S., creating over a million good-paying craft jobs, while still maintaining strong environmental laws.
Indeed, fears of environmental backsliding could be easily remedied by Congress if it were to pass the Affordable, Reliable, Clean Energy Security Act (ARC-ES), introduced in Congress late last year by Rep. Troy Balderson (R-OH).
The ARC-ES bill would codify into law clear definitions of key terms like “affordable,” “reliable,” and “clean,” ensuring that investment risks are limited to cost-effective infrastructure projects only.
The bill would help America’s most affordable, reliable, and environmentally-friendly energy sources, including nuclear and natural gas, remain part of the energy mix — a crucial requirement for American households and businesses.
The fact that neither the ARC-ES nor the Endangerment Finding’s reversal of fortune is anywhere in the news tells you everything you need to know about the current state of global journalism.
This is no slight to the news coverage concerning Iran, which is compelling, but all over the place. It just shows how incentives for informing the public in the 21st century about what truly matters in their lives are weak and getting worse. Perhaps one day someone will invent a better medium for information.
William Murray is a former speechwriter for the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the past editor of RealClearEnergy from 2015 to 2017, and currently the chief speechwriter for the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC).
This article was originally published by RealClearEnergy and made available via RealClearWire.
How odd that the media don’t want to give us solid, good news that would make people breathe a sigh of relief and allow them to let go of the heavy burden of fear regarding CO2 that they’ve been carrying for so long.;)
Fear is the easiest way to control humans. It was never really about climate, it was about control.
Fear and anger are the best mechanisms to sway public opinion. Emotionalisms comes in 3rd place.
Aren’t fear and anger emotions?
“Aren’t fear and anger emotions?”
The “emotionalisms” I believe Sparta is referring to are things like “think of the children” pleadings that tug on heart strings to get people to avoid critical examination. That is a different form of psyops than using fear but is effective at generating self righteous anger over the “injustice” which is almost always a straw man fabrication.
Spot on.
Over many years I’ve had to deal with reporters. My experience working with them convinced me that most reporters were simply dumb people. Where I worked, we wrote our press releases at an eighth-grade level and had them reviewed by a professional psychologist for clarity and reading level. And still the dopey reporters got their facts wrong even when it was handed to them! People working at other companies have told me they had similar experiences. And sometimes the press even lies – for example saying they tried to contact a company when they had not or quoting an imaginary anonymous source. The situation is really bad.
$1.3 trillion over a decade is about $400 million per day. The Iran War is costing over $1,000 million (aka one billion) a day in direct costs, and “several times that” in indirect costs, according to this article.
So in the short run at least, the Iran War is far more costly than the Endangerment Finding, even if we take these numbers at face value.
Of course the Iran War might not continue for 10 straight years, but then again the repeal of the Endangerment Finding might not last that long either.
It’s also possible that the UN climate regime never had that much impact. Carbon emissions have continued to rise year after year, despite all the talk of slowing them down. https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions
How about the cost of the extra funds for the Pentagon system Trump is asking for ( well, demanding)?
1.5 trillion dollars in total budget. Initially 200, moved up to 500 billion extra.
Couple that with increasing costs as the result of accelerated global conflicts and the ‘savings’ will be…?
Will the people actually be better off or is that a question yr not allowed to ask?
Don’t forget tariffs – trump is saving the average American so much money. DOGE even managed to save a negative amount of money!And with less employment people have now time to carry their money to the bank! But with rising prices they even won’t need to do that (Saves that currently so ridiculously cheap gas, thanks trump!)
I bet they get tired of all the saving. Save, baby, save!
Looking at the downvotes it is clearly an uncomfortable question. One deflected by pushing a downvote to stop the brain from engaging w the subject.
It saves both time and effort.
Stimulus- response.
Like a Climate Alarmist…😁
You are apparently not mature enough to understand that when negotiating you ask for more than you know you’ll get. Trump knows he’s not going to get 1.5 T military budget. But of course all those with TDS have to pounce on anything he says that seems over the top.
They have convinced themselves that Trump is an unchallenged dictator and that therefor he’s going to get everything he has asked for.
Which is kind of schizophrenic, considering how often these same people strut about, bragging about how often they have blocked Trump from getting something he’s asked for.
Thank you for confirming..😁
Glad you’re enjoying your visits here to the dark side. 🙂
I quite enjoy studying confined labrats..
Their behaviour is totally predictable..
We’re so lucky such a brilliant person as yourself enriches this site. 🙂
Ah yes, the TDS accusation again.
Rule one: anybody accusing somebody of having TDS has it him or herself.
Rule two: Trump is always very smart so anybody who criticises him must be dumb, which in fact shows their own stupidity, of which they are unaware, exactly like Trump himself. Oh, the irony!
Rule three: those who accuse others of listening to the opposition to Trump must by by default wrong…on everything, meaning they are as much caught in the binary trap as the ones THEY accuse.
Rule four: the forever trumpers always freely display their political and historical ignorance and don’t realise this is not an accident.
Rule five: the heavily indoctrinated, politicised and propadandised always believe they have freely come to their ‘views’ themselves which means the system is working to weaponise the confined labrats.
Wow, looks like terminal TDS to me. Hurry to a hospital. 🙂
How about you stay on topic for once.
It is also highly likely that Trump, because of his geopolitics and relevant costs will lose the mid term elections.
The support for him and his ‘policies’ are rapidly declining ( which some flatly deny). That means that the chances of widely supported continuous policies are slim.
Trump has managed to alienate too many individuals and groups.
The clown show is exhausting. I don’t even bother to follow ‘the news’ now as the circus never leaves town. It’s insane..
Still getting your news and opinions from CNN, I see.
Well , here’s something from CNN, that you will enjoy.
Democrats are well down the “S” bend.. heading for their sewer.
Democrats in Michigan recently replaced a Jewish member with someone who has praised the martyrs of Hezbollah.
It figures…Democrats? You cannot kill them and eat them, so what to do, what to do?
I dont watch CNN, or MSNBC or FOX.
Media corruption across the board.
Get off the horse..it is dying.
Your horse died long ago !.. from TDS. !!
Keep saying it to block out reality.
Im on to you!😄
And another CNN report can be found here.
MAGA gives Trump 100% approval rating in new poll, leaving CNN analyst stunned | The Independent
That’s the ultimate proof that Trump entered the deep state.( FASAB 56 was actually when he crossed the line)
CNN used to spin everything against and refused to televise his rallies (except for the one with the shooting),
but now they where even the craziest communist didn’t dare to go(i think Kim Yong sn. reached 99.8)
and gave him a 100% rating from a totally fractured base(some Trumpwellian 2+2 =100% at play).
And on top of that he even got his own deep state MSM slogan for Lemming-indoctrination:
” Short Term Pain, Long Term Gain “
Might have something to w the sale of CNN and David Ellison.
might not..
Might have more to do with Trump popularity with the MAGA base.
Everything is a conspiracy.
Good thing you can see so clearly, or the rest of us wouldn’t have a clue.
The world needs more conspiracy theorists.
David Ellison doesn’t own CNN yet (warner shareholders haven’t even had their vote on approving the merger yet, that’s literally a couple of hours away as I write this). But don’t let facts get in the way of your conspiracy fantasies.
Trump is not running in any midterm elections.
Good that you informed bellynelly of that. 🙂
Ok, fair enough. But he will lose the majority just the same.
So, in my book he IS running.
Nitpick all you want. Still losing.
But hey, for you guys he always wins, right? Even when he loses..😁.
Alternate reality clowns..
Trump is not running in any midterm elections. I typed that VERY slowly so your tiny mind can grasp it.
If Republicans pick up house and Senate seats and as well as state level seats, it would be despite Trump.
If they lose seats, it’s because of Trump.
The narrative was set long ago.
Again, Trump is not running in ANY mid term race. If they lose seats it is because Republicans are idiots who always snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Oh, i..am..fully..aware..how…your…mind..works.
You just haven’t copped on yet and you likely never will.
Puppet…not the puppeteer.
Yes, you are a puppet spewing leftarded stupidity.
“The support for him and his ‘policies’ are rapidly declining”
according to the MSM and we can trust them, right?
BN just finished telling us that he never watches the major networks, now he’s echoing them when they say what he wants to hear.
Ok, mr clever, here is an inside: i stopped listening and watching msm some time ago. If i say something that happens to coincide w something that is reflected in the msm, it does NOT mean i am echoing it. Get it in your thick head..
Where do you get your information then, if not from the news media?
What’s your source?
So your “thinking” is in line with the MSM. Nice to know.
Liar.
I need to update my TDS image created by ChatGPT to include bellynelly. Don’t know what he looks like but I can let ChatGPT imagine him. 🙂
The TDS is strong in this one, Obi-wan.
In his mind he’s the only sane person. He’s the only one who can see clearly.
Anyone who disagrees is just proof of how prescient he is.
That is because you guys don’t realise you are in a Skinner box.
And if you don’t know what that is, look it up..
See Mark’s comment just above.
Oh, gee, nobody here is as smart as you and never heard of the psychologist B.F. Skinner from way back in the ’60s and earlier.
I think you hit the nail on the head, Mark! 🙂
He is a legend in his own mind.
As a bloke, I can’t say that he’s someone I’d have a beer with.
He is undisputedly an outsize presence on the world political scene, this despite all the political “experts” writing off his chances to anyone who would listen.
See, it’s important to appreciate that Trump is not your run of the mill politician.
He is not beholden to –
you get the picture . . .
which in my opinion appeals to the ordinary voters
(or the “basket of deplorables” as Hilary calls them)
You are portraying the image and the hope many had
But it was a myth, a populist delusion.
You are in the denial phase..
So your position is that other peoples’ observations / assessments are all wrong, but yours are all right.
I see.
See, I subscribe to the proposition that we should all be constantly challenging our own ‘hypotheses’ on matters of “beliefs”, and putting forth a “null hypothesis”.
Because this is how reasoning / rationality works.
So what would be your “null hypothesis” that negates your position that “Trump supporters are in a Skinner Box”?
Good think you’re here BellyNelly to enlighten us. 🙂
Bill Maher, a “moderate” leftie, had dinner at the White House with Trump and was very impressed. Bill lately has been ranting against the left. He said Trump was very polite and knowledgeable- despite the idiocy of the left that Trump is a crude moron.
Trump is not running in the midterms, so he literally can’t win or lose them. You have to run to lose (or win).
If on the other hand you mean his party will lose seats in the House and/or Senate. That’s quite possible. Historically, the party in power tends to lose seats in the midterms (sometimes in large numbers – remember Obama’s shellacking in 2010? or Bush’s Thumping in 2006?)
Recent reports that US Congress approval rating is way down, below 10% and nearing the all time record low. This indeed is much worse than DJT’s polling.
The cost of Iran nuking Tel Aviv is a bit higher and longer-lasting.
The cost of them nuking New York is higher still.
One cannot prove a negative.
It is possible Iran has an atomic bomb, well hidden, and given their threats of new means of attack, one can not dismiss the possibility casually.
But what about WMDs in Iraq?
Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran in that war.
We broadcast that we were going after those and publicly stated the where we expected to find them.
It is possible that they did exist and were moved or destroyed before we got there.
One cannot prove a negative.
Every intelligence agency on Earth thought Saddam Insane had an active WMD program.
One reason they thought that way was because Saddam encouraged those thoughts. Even Saddam’s own generals thought Saddam had WMD.
Saddam wanted foreigners to think that way in hopes that would deter them from attacking, and Saddam wanted his generals to think that way to solidify his power with them.
There are rumors the WMD Saddam had were moved to Syria.
Since our relationship with Syria today is greatly improved, maybe we should ask Syria’s leader for assistance in shedding light on this matter.
You might not be able to prove a negative but you DO need prove of a positive. People believing something does not make it so.
I think that is what this site is about.
“People believing something does not make it so.”
Definitely that is what you are about.
One word. Dirty Bombs. Far easier to make, far easier to get into position for employment, and the Mad Mullahs will do it, they don’t care about life, their own or anyone else’s.
Trump has the Mad Mullahs by the throat, and the Democrats claim Trump is losing the war!
Democrats are not only unfit to defend the United States, they actively try to undermine U.S. security at every turn. They are a great danger to the freedoms of the rest of us, a greater danger than any foreign enemy.
Notice how the Democrats always side with the enemies of the United States. That is because Radical Democrats are enemies of the United States.
Every war we have fought since the Vietnam war requires the United States to go to war with the foreign enemy, and the Leftwing Media, and the Democrats.
Democrats and their lies will be the death of the United States. If you don’t want that to happen, then don’t vote for Democrats. They are a great danger to our future. They don’t live in the real world.
I am quite knowledgeable in this field so I have to be careful what I say. I am sure you understand.
1/2 ton of 60% enriched uranium is not something atop a missile, but it can be a ship born bomb.
Nuclear, atomic, and radiological are the three types of radioactive weapons. Iran does not have nuclear capabilities. They have atomic capabilities. Nuclear, however, is a scarier word.
Per Google AI, 50kg, 90% uranium, is needed for an atomic bomb.
50 kg is 110 lb.
Yes, that highly refined dust can be EASILY used in dirty bombs, and in that manner can be far more easily deployed against anyone. Dirty Bomb, not atomic/nuclear bomb. Hell, does not even have to be a bomb, dump it out of a small plane over a city on a sunny day when lots of people are outside, such as major sport event, parade etc etc.
Crushing their manufacturing capabilities does not mean they cannot use what they have already processed, and as leftards keep screeching we don’t know where, with certainty, their processed uranium is. Only takes a small amount to create a huge mass casualty attack. They can very well use it against their own population and use their allies in global media and Democrat Party to blame America.
Your math is correct.
Your point of CO2 (not carbon) emissions still rising, more or less, in spite of the tremendous amount of capital (aka money) invested is the real point.
If investing to fix something (debate of its necessity is ongoing) does not work, the investment is waste (possibly fraud).
How much of this is incremental costs? It matters if you hope not to be misled.
What are the cost of training exercises that were cancelled because the real thing is going on?
$0. We would have paid for it regardless. Next ?
We are paying for the training exercises e en when they aren’t being held?
On the other hand, rational people know that what matters is the increase in cost, and to determine that you have to examine the costs that have been avoided.
Training costs = wages paid. The wages will be paid regardless if the wage earner is training or fighting a war so there is no incremental cost.
Training materials (fuel, ammo, etc) are being consumed either training or fighting a war.
(If I sound too much like an accountant it’s because I am. CPA. Not a tax oriented CPA, though.)
I realize that we are consuming more missiles and more fuel. Yet, when I see people throw around cost figures in an effort to pin some high price tag on this war, they need to define what added costs are being consumed.
The WSJ pinned a $1T price tag on this. Well, not so fast WSJ. Unless we planned to reduce the military by the 10,000 people currently engaged fighting these are not added costs. And when I see many try to turn the tide by showing concern for government spending, I feel I need to say, “not so fast.”
Spot on.
And yet the Net Zero / Climate Change activists continue on with their loud statement about the evils of CO2.
But of course, it being the new Satan and they being like Medieval theologians.
Given they threw out religion and the Bible, they need a new Armageddon. CO2 fills the need.
When you throw out religion, politics becomes your religion. CO2 is just the latest in the long history of existential threats to mankind that didn’t live up to their advanced billing. There will always be another existential threat invoked for the purpose of controlling people.
A refinement to my comment that is agreeable.
With the rollback of fuel economy and efficiencyy standards consumers will pay more in the end.
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/5832183-trump-assaults-energy-efficiency/
it is one thing legislating fuel economy and efficiency figures and quite another to actually achieve them.
Sometimes laws are thwarted by physical constraints.
WRONG.. removing the CO2 constraints on car exhaust makes them more efficient.
All the crap needed to reduce CO2 makes them far less efficient.
Companies have a real incentive to provide more efficient cars, machines and appliances. This is a competitive edge. There is no need to mandate expensive non-solutions like the CAFE rule. Let the market work. A real-life example is my dishwasher. A bureaucrat mandated that it use less water. So now it uses more electricity and the final rinse water looks pretty cloudy. So I have to rinse the dishes well before using the dishwasher, completely negating the supposed savings in water. Almost every environmental rule works out like this.
Poisoning your customers is also a bad idea, yet we need food laws to prevent that from happening. If you take a closer look at it you may find a *slight* power imbalance in your idea of “let the market work”
‘Poisoning your customers is also a bad idea, yet we need food laws to prevent that from happening.’
Are you saying that the only reason you don’t kill, maim or rob everyone you encounter during your day is because it’s against the law? You not only lack any semblance of reason, you lack a soul.
If one takes a closer look at it, one finds a “slight” imbalance in his thinking (aka brain).
Funny how the socialist assumes that because a law was passed, that law was needed and necessary.
As every good socialist knows, those who work for government are omniscient and never make mistakes.
Aka the religion.
My machine takes hours to do a load of dishes. I wonder how restaurants wash their dishes?
If Hollywood is to be believed, they just stack them up and wait for somebody who can’t pay their bill to come along so that they can put them to work washing the dirty dishes. 😉
Nothing efficient about standing around waiting for your car or big commercial truck to get charged- and nothing efficient about spending far more $$$ for an EV.
Not to mention the occasional car next to you bursting into flames and taking your vehicle with it. This has happened.
And the resources needed for those high current “fast” chargers?
Methinks we will run out of copper before we run out of petroleum.
You discount the many costs of these same fuel efficiency standards.
More people dying because cars are smaller and lighter.
Also cars costing more because of all the technology needed to meet thses standards.
Like most socialists, you assume that government experts know what people want and need better than do the people themselves.
What is the cost of outlawing cars that people want, in favor of what government wants them to have?
The drop in energy prices after this global warming scam is finally wrapped up will result in savings that are many times the small increase in fuel use from better cars.
Being hit by an SUV increases the likelihood of death or serious injury
https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2025/being-hit-suv-increases-likelihood-death-or-serious-injury
Not if you are in an SUV yourself.
Being in a bigger vehicle is safer when you strike a road side object, which is the majority of crashes.
EV are just as heavy as SUV !.. just saying 😉
Silent but DEADLY !!
I remember when SBD meant a noxious gas currently blamed for “climate change.”
One cheek sneak?
Then don’t walk in front of them. !!
Well, if it leads to more efficient, cheaper, reliable ICE cars w proper warrenty and easy accessible replacement parts and service that would be great.
Chances are….?
Supply chain issues will remain important. The best thing would be to try and break down barriers to international trade, take yr foot off the conflict accelerator and create opportunities that will benefit the general public and not just the few % who will take full control.
Again: chances are?
I agree in breaking down trade barriers, but one of those barriers is balance of trade.
I agree with no more wars, but wars are primarily about control of natural and human resources.
The Iran war is new, but how many more are ongoing in the world and not reported? Last check: 76. How many have been ended in the past 16 months? The count, unconfirmed, is 8.
In order to not have wars, everyone on the planet has to commit.
We, like everyone else, have a right to self-defense.
We have been at war with Iran since 1979.
The attack on the US embassy was an act of war.
Yes, there are 2 decades prior to that where conflict and such was ongoing in Iran, some of which the USA might have precipitated, but one cannot blame someone who inherited the problem for causing it 70 years ago.
“just the few % who will take full control”
That is exactly the point of discussions in the Trans-Reality Activism. The UN has stated multiple times it is not about the environment, it is about reshaping world order.
Is there anything in this repeal that makes it difficult for a future Democrat Administration from putting this finding back into place? They’d do this in a heart beat given the chance. They’re leftists after all.
This is sadly important.
Too many powerful and prominent people will not admit they were wrong and were easily fooled into legislation which has been ruinously expensive and pointless.
No, for the simple reason that, despite no actual evidence of ‘endangerment’, the Left continues to command the ‘science’, i.e., the climate models, because mainstream skeptics are unwilling to take on the phenomenological physics at the heart of radiant transfer theory.
More that phenomenological physics and radiant transfer conjectures.
It has partial support by the Supreme Court.
Until the Inflation Reduction Act is revised or it expires, the language in it is still law.
The only solution is to get Congress to stop bickering amongst themselves on less significant issues and deal with it through legislation.
I’m not holding my breath for that to happen, unfortunately.
Until Republicans can get super majorities in both houses, it’s not going to happen.
I agree.
Do not hold your breath. You need to exhale that 20,000 to 40,000 ppm of CO2 to please the plants! 🙂
“tells you everything you need to know about the current state of global journalism.” Absolutely!! Thankfully we have WUWT.
Go to ” Club of Rome.at” – Eine Welt fur alle.
They will tell what this is all about, including the deliberate, controlled inv…. migration.
Glo
Great, let’s take the “win” from the rescission of the 2009 Endangerment Finding. But please realize this action was on legal and statutory grounds. This was understandable and proper in retrospect. But it dares a future new Congress and President to enact legislation to codify the regulation of emissions of CO2, CH4, N2O. That is a huge risk, because people can be persuaded to believe nonsense if it sounds “scientific” and authoritative.
What to do? Refute the core “scientific” claim and stop conceding it. Organizations like Heartland, WUWT, the CO2 Coalition, CFact, etc. are great at pointing out the unfavorable outcomes of aggressive policies against emissions of CO2, along with the excessive cost and impact of “renewables.” Fine. But in my view they are missing the opportunity to deal directly with the original misconception.
Simpson and Brunt had this right in 1938, and modern dynamic modeling demonstrates their point, that a temperature response at the surface cannot be determined from a radiative computation, when the circulating motion of the compressible atmosphere is properly considered. More here about all that.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2026/03/15/open-thread-181/#comment-4174555
The scientific position of many present-day skeptics of climate alarm – my paraphrase here – is that only *some* warming should be expected from rising CO2, and that only *some* contribution to the reported warming can be attributed to emissions.
But even *some* “warming” response is not justified physically. The better-justified counterpoint is that NO ONE KNOWS and THERE IS PRESENTLY NO WAY TO RELIABLY KNOW that the surface response to incremental CO2 differs from zero (i.e. that the influence is imperceptible, undetectable, negligible) in the end result.
Dynamic energy conversion within the general circulation, throughout the depth of the troposphere, massively overwhelms the minor tendency toward surface “warming” from the incremental IR absorbing power from rising concentrations of CO2 and the other trace IR-active gases. The modelers know this.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PDJP3F3rteoP99lR53YKp2fzuaza7Niz?usp=drive_link
Thank you for your patience as I keep posting about this.
Agreed. And as far as I’m concerned, the “enhanced greenhouse gas hypothesis” has already been falsified.
Because as the climate has gotten warmer, radiation to space has INCREASED. Which directly contradicts that hypothesis, which assumes “heat” in the form of radiation in the infrared spectrum will be “trapped” by increased amounts of atmospheric CO2, which would mean REDUCED radiation to space.
Oh, and of course there is that inconvenient GLACIATION with 10 times today’s atmospheric CO2 to explain…
“Simpson and Brunt had this right in 1938, and modern dynamic modeling demonstrates their point, that a temperature response at the surface cannot be determined from a radiative computation, when the circulating motion of the compressible atmosphere is properly considered”.
Very important based insight many gloss over. But it lies at the root of the matter..and its inherent uncertainties.
Thank you for your reply. I appreciate that you recognize the significance of the dynamics.
Quite the rope-A-dope, everyone is looking at Hormuz, meanwhile a sledge hammer is being taken to the greentard agenda inside USG and by extension the States severally.
I bet there are fewer than a dozen people in all of Wokeachusetts who even know about this. For the state, it’s full steam, er, I mean wind/sun ahead.
They are destroying their two primary industries with merry abandon.
Leaving aside government and brainwashing kids, what are MA’s two primary industries?
Commercial fishing and agriculture.
I don’t think they’re primary but they will be damaged with Net Zero policies- along with forestry which the state is trying hard to kill off.
The main industries are probably universities and hospitals along with a fair amount of high tech. Those are big money enterprises so they won’t be too injured by Net Zero- but the public will be.
Forestry lumps into agriculture, as for colleges and hospitals that money doesn’t go to the state other than taxes on employees pay, and they are both heavy gas/electricity/diesel/water/sewage users so netstupid is going to effect the hell out of them. Reality is the giant granite wall they are rushing towards, and it is going to effect every single person in the state severely. New York, too.
According to Google AI, the top two industries in MA are:
1) Healthcare and Social Assistance at 11.6% of the civilian Workforce
and 12.3% of its GDP
2) Professional, Scientific, and Technical Services at 10.6% of the civilian workforce for 11.3% of its GDP
Agriculture makes up 0.061% of MA’s GDP whereas Commercial Fishing is 2% of MA’s GDP
I see you like making peoples’ point for them. Good for you! Everyone needs a hobby. And yes, everything you listed will be f&cked when leftards finish crushing the electric generation grid in MA. And googlyai? Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
If your point was that you made a wrong assertion about what MAs two primary industries are, then sure, I made your point for you. Just because I corrected your misstatement of facts, however, doesn’t mean I disagree with your wider point that the climate idiocy of “Wokeachusetts” will be a disaster for that state’s industries (all of them, not just the two you mistakenly claimed to be their primary industries).
And laugh all you want at google ai (I’ve had my share of laughs when it’s screwed up and given an obviously wrong answer), but unless you can prove it’s wrong on the facts (which it does not appear to be so in this case), then the only laughing is being done here is at your insisting your own wrong assertions are supported by people pointing out they’re wrong. In future, when someone points out an error you made, you might want to try a little humility instead of opting to humiliate yourself by laughing at being given the actual facts.
I would not celebrate too much. Given the political winds in the US, the Endangerment Finding will be re-instated in 2029, and the energy policies subsequently put in place will make the policies of Great Britain and Germany look trivial.
That would require a vote of Congress and signing by the president. A filibuster may keep it from passing the Senate. It won’t be as easy as you think.
IRA institutionalized the definitions and it was a budget reconciliation bill that did not need the 60 filibuster busting votes.
Anything passed under reconciliation automatically sunsets in 7 years.
True, but also can be renewed by Congress.
I expect the Senate filibuster to end, and a few more judges to be added to the Supreme Court. Giving statehood to Washington DC and Puerto Rico would help seal the deal. The Democrat party leaders, many members, as well as their various pundits have spoken in favor of these actions.
Statehood to D.C. has a minor problem. The Constitution mandates the US captial be in a Federal District with the idea being to not give special treatment to one State over all others.
True, but that requires a supreme court with a majority who will uphold the constitution by striking down any attempts to ignore what the constitution has to say on the issue. If the left can pack the court (by adding as many seats as they need to gain the majority) then all bets are off.
I think the conditions that allowed it to happen were a “perfect storm” that cannot be repeated. Too much has changed in terms of perception and energy demand, not to mention geopolitical dynamics, to permit it to simply reverse.
No doubt other mecanisms will emerge as tools for the Globalist/Marxist elite toward the same end, but this particular con is crumbling.
You are stating 2029 as a certainty. While very possible, no one knows the future until it becomes the present. There are other timeline tracks where your conjecture does not occur.
Until the quantum wave collapses, we will not be able to view the cat.
The 2009 Endangerment Finding was an example of political science being pushed as science.
Political activism being pushed as science might be a better way to express it.
“Perhaps one day someone will invent a better medium for information.”
Anthony and others like him have already done that.
The premise of this article is slightly flawed,
I saw several news pieces about the repeal of the Endangerment Finding when and a day or two after it occurred.
Admittedly, almost all of the ‘major’ propagandists (Fox, NewsMax,, Breitbart, et al notwithstanding) mentioned it as the pretext for excoriating all things and people associated or even remotely supporting of the Trump administration. but it did get mentioned a number of times. One of my favorites: https://abcnews.com/video/124185312/
But repeal of the Finding fueled quite a number of uniformly critical descriptions of the un-scientific, un-thinking, even un-American policies and decisions of Trump’s Presidency, with particular emphasis on the hastening of the impending climate catastrophes we all know are imminent (or eminent, if your job depends on it…).
Another example: https://www.cbsnews.com/video/what-to-know-about-the-epa-decision-to-revoke-the-endangerment-finding-on-greenhouse-gases/?intcid=CNM-00-10abd1h
And so on, and so on, and…
“on the hastening of the impending climate catastrophes we all know are imminent”
So the things you are reading are total balderdash.. Ok. !
The original “Endangerment Finding” was NOT based on any real science, and was certainly anti-American.
Getting rid of it is based on actual real science and data, and is great for America
Getting rid of it was based on process violations.
That was the point I was trying to make. The links listed were used as examples – and there were a lot of them = of how uniform the legacy media was in condemning the repeal. Also with no scientific, even anecdotal, of why CO2 was “harmful” beyond the assertion of harm. Apparently, you were not the only to interpret my comments as being anti-repeal.
Sorry if the sarcasm was so thick as to be opaque.
And I haven’t heard anyone else use ‘balderdash’ (or ‘bushwa’) in quite awhile.
Well done. You read and report on both sides of the political division.
I disagree the article is flawed. I see the repeal as having much greater positive consequences than the Iran military engagements being negative.
That you identified some media sources as propagandists and others not mentioned as such creates a perception of bias in your phraseology.
Your “And so on, and son on, and…” reads like a /s marking.
Repealing the endangerment finding does not address the root cause, GHE:
Earth is cooler with the atmosphere/water vapor/30% albedo not warmer. Near Earth outer space is 394 K, 121 C, 250 F. 288 K w – 255 K w/o = 33 C cooler -18 C Earth is just flat wrong. Dividing 1,368 by 4 to average 342 over Spherical ToA is wrong.
Ubiquitous GHE heat balance graphics don’t balance and violate LoT. Refer to TFK_bams09.
Solar balance 1: 160 in = 17 + 80 + 63 out. Balance complete.
Calculated balance 2: 396 S-B BB at 16 C / 333 “back” radiation cold to warm w/o work violates Lot 2. 63 LWIR net duplicates balance 1 violating GAAP.
Kinetic heat transfer processes of contiguous atmospheric molecules render surface BB impossible. By definition all energy entering and leaving a BB must do so by radiation. Entering: 30% albedo = not BB. OLR: 17sensible & 80 latent = not BB. TFK_bams09: 97 out of 160 leave by kinetic processes, 63 by LWIR = not BB. As demonstrated by experiment, the gold standard of classical science.
For the experimental write up see:
https://principia-scientific.org/debunking-the-greenhouse-gas-theory-with-a-boiling-water-pot/
Search: Bruges group “boiling water pot” Schroeder
RGHE theory is as much a failure as caloric, phlogiston, luminiferous ether, spontaneous generation and several others.
When GHE fails the entire CAGW house of cards implodes like the Titan submersible.
We have seen this many times.
We agree it is flawed to the point of being totally bogus, contrived, etc.
We also agree there is much about the earth’s coupled energy systems that is not well understood or even identified and definitely there is no “GHE” or “control knob.”
That said, I do not believe you have it all correct. First of all you start with the bogus energy balance graphic, which needs to been thrown into the trash.
BB EM radiation is real. The way the BB equations are used is an affront to science.
The 2022 Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) contains text which directly identifies CO2 and other carbon compounds including methane as ‘pollutants’ which are harmful to the environment. That text remains in effect and has not been repealed.
This is Google AI’s assessment:
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The text within the 2022 Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) that defines greenhouse gases—including carbon dioxide—as air pollutants remains in effect. By amending the Clean Air Act, the IRA solidified this definition, strengthening the EPA’s authority to regulate these emissions, a power previously affirmed by the Supreme Court.
While legal challenges to EPA regulations are common, the legislative language adopted in 2022 has not been repealed.
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The Biden EPA Clean Power Plan 2.0 published in 2024 does not rely upon the 2009 Endangerment Finding as its legal foundation. Rather, the 2024 CPP 2.0 employs the Clean Air Act Section 111 process, one which does not require either an Endangerment Finding or a National Ambient Air Quality Standard (NAAQS).
The environmental lawyers who wrote the 2022 IRA say because the law directly identifies carbon emissions as pollutants, that law gives the EPA direct authority to regulate carbon emissions as greenhouse gases without the need for an Endangerment Finding, thus bypassing the Major Questions doctrine.
As long as the text in the 2022 IRA which identifies carbon emissions as pollutants remains on the books, a Democrat president could simply re-institute 2024’s Clean Power Plan 2.0 with an Executive Order and pick up where Biden’s EPA left off.
You are correct.
I have pointed out the IRA also.
The 2022 IRA expires after 7 years, as I have been informed, as it is a budget reconciliation bill.
Green Energy Ideologists are OBLIVIOUS that electricity came AFTER oil, as ALL electrical generation methods from hydro, coal, natural gas, nuclear, wind, and solar are ALL built with the products, components, and equipment that are made from oil derivatives manufactured from crude oil.
· Without Crude Oil there can be no Electricity!
In addition, electricity can charge an iPhone, but neither wind turbines nor solar panels can MAKE an iPhone, thus everything that needs electricity consists of products that are also made from oil derivatives manufactured from crude oil.
· Without Crude Oil there will be no products like iPhones, X-ray machines, computers, etc., that NEEDS electricity!
Planes, ships, trucks, and cars do not run on raw crude oil, they run on transportation fuels manufactured FROM crude oil by multi-billion-dollar refineries.
Wind turbines and solar panels ONLY generate electricity but CANNOT make any of the 6,000 products or transportation fuels for life as we know it.
The world is not dependent on raw natural fossil fuels BUT has become dependent on the products and transportation fuels MADE FROM oil, the same products and transportation fuels that Wind and Solar CANNOT make!
We survived O’biden. That was the main risk to humanity. We still have their overspending debt burden heaped on the rest and activist judges whose only value is in teaching us just how fragile our system really is. We also survived Iran’s planned nuclear attack in the middle east based on religious instruction. I guess we will need other organized distractions from the real risks in the world instead of agenda climate science schemes.