Harold Hutchison
Media Reporter
Former Vice President Al Gore said on Wednesday that government policy should promote “regenerative agriculture” during a discussion at the World Economic Forum (WEF).
The WEF is in Davos, Switzerland, for its annual meeting, with panels and speeches from world leaders, philanthropists, business leaders and A-list Hollywood actors, according to the program on the forum’s website. Gore made his comments during a panel discussion titled “How Can We Avert a Climate Recession?” (RELATED: ‘Patrick Bateman Meets Sparkle Beach Ken’: Scott Bessent Delivers Sassy Retort To Gavin Newsom)
“But the role of policy which we’re discussing here is crucial in agriculture as well. In the US, the largest source of government subsidies to farmers is in a program called crop insurance,” Gore, who won the Nobel Peace Prize for his documentary “An Inconvenient Truth,” claimed. “The title is a bit misleading… in order to qualify for these subsidies, farmers basically have to assure the government that they are not going to engage in regenerative agriculture because the incentives have been to produce as much as possible as quickly as possible, fence row to fence row instead of taking care of the productivity of the soil and not depleting its vitality.”
WATCH:
“So we need policies that in recognition of the fact that governments around the world typically do subsidize farming, but don’t subsidize them in ways that incentivize them to go in the wrong direction, but incentivize them to go in the right direction,” Gore continued.
Environmentalists have targeted agriculture, particularly meat production, claiming that it contributes to climate change. The Dutch government forcibly shut down 3,000 farms to meet European Union environmental policies in 2022, leading to a backlash as a pro-farmer party won 15 of the 75 seats in the European country’s legislature the following year.
During the 2023 WEF meeting, one speaker called for an end to eating meat.
“If a billion people stop eating meat, I tell you, it has a big impact. Not only does it have a big impact on the current food system, but it will also inspire innovation of food systems,” Jim Hagemann Snabe, chairman of the Germany-based conglomerate Siemens AG, said during a panel called “Mobilizing for Climate.”
“I predict that we will have proteins not coming from meat in the future, they will probably taste even better. So why are we trying to mimic meat if we can have a better taste? They will be zero carbon and much healthier than the kind of food that we eat today,” Snabe added.
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Thought …
Suggestions are not in line with the new (turned upside down triangle of) recommended food consumption standards, are they – particularly from meat; and it’s not just about proteins in meat (and substitution of one protein source with another) is it … ?
Correct
Gore must have a pathological hatred of ranchers
He didn’t get that fat from a vegan diet.
Only peasant scum go vegan.
You don’t get fat from meat but from carbohydrates
I doubt there were many obese hunter gatherers. 🙂
I wonder how many days Al Gore would survive as a hunter/gatherer.
Not many…likely he would be hunted and gathered. And would feed a whole damn village.
That’ll be because of all the healthy exercise they got, hunting and gathering.
+50
Exactly
You don’t understand jokes if you take them literally.
He is fat because he is full of shit!
The man is a walking crime zone with his incessant lies and money grubbing all the while continues to scam his own followers.
He can eat recycled food.
Yeah, looks more like one of Dirty Harry’s partners.
“Too much linguini.”
And humans in general.
And Snabe, the Siemens AG guy, is just as much an ideological idiot.
Well, yes. Enviros hate ranchers.
Meat offers around 700 Calories per pound consumed. Plants offer 200-400 calories per pound consumed. To eliminate meat from diets.will require growing 3 times as much Plant food stuff as we currently do in order to have a net zero effect on caloric intake. It will also mean that people will need to eat at least twice the bulk and as they do now to consume the same calories a day.
and all the issues around essential amino acids and fatty acids will increase apatite leading to even more consumption
I’d wager that they aren’t serving Bugs at Davos
I’d also wager that Beef IS on the menu at Davos just not published 😘
Cattle eat pasture and range grasses on land that cannot grow row crops. Ranching does not preclude or substitute for farming. Killing off all the ungulates on Earth will not open up land for carrots. Please note that not eating meat will not satisfy Alarmunist Theory. All bovines must be eliminated. Head shot and left to rot in the meadow. All ranchers must be eliminated as well. And it’s not just the end of meat, it would mean the end of dairy, too. No more ice cream. Tell the children.
Of course, and it goes without saying, the demise of cattle will not change the climate one iota.
But the real story is that ManBearPig wants the human race to huddle in the cold and dark in mud huts while we starve to death. He is not a nice man. However, the good news is DJT just blew up the WEF and MBP. They’re history. Alarmunism has jumped the shark.
Grass that decays on the ground releases more methane than if eaten by a cow, a lot of the carbon in grass goes to growing the animal, more is returned to the soil as manure.
Cattle increase soil health and microbial diversity that include Methanotrophic bacteria that feed on methane and in turn produce humus in the soil.
Rich pastures pull lots of CO2 from the atmosphere and perennial pastures stop erosion of the soil.
You’re speaking scientifically and practically, characteristics missing from the ideological blather from people like Gore and Snabe.
I’m not sure about that. The methane is produced under anaerobic conditions, which would not occur in most pastures.
Those conditions do occur in flood irrigated fields, such as rice paddies. Oddly, there doesn’t seem to be any push to stop rice production or consumption.
I take your point, but the microbes that produce methane in a cow’s gut are also in the soil and they decay vegetable matter that comes in contact with the soil.
That is most certainly so, but I think the overall methane production is lower in pasture.
It would be interesting to see what studies have been conducted in that area, and under which climatic conditions.
The methanogenic Archaea utilise the H2 and CO2 fermentation byproducts in the rumen, and are a second breakdown stage.
They aren’t responsible for the first stage cellulose breakdown.
This all occurs in aqua, so I don’t think the conditions are conducive to this at scale in typical soils.
As far as I know, many of the species of rumen Archaea do occur in the soil, but at much lower concentrations. Rumens are an ideal environment for them. Lots of nutrients, lots of water, and a very nice temperature for the reactions to occur.
Conditions in flooded soil are certainly conducive, hence the methane production in swamps and rice paddies.
Gore is not a nice man, he is an extremist.
Gore would love to be able to tell you how to live your life.
Don’t take advise from Al Gore. He is delusional.
Not to mention a monumental hypocrite. He has a house (one of many) that consumes as much electricity as a small TOWN but preaches to what he (like so many other Climate Fascists) obviously views as “the little people” about THEIR “carbon footprints.”
He can stick his point of view where the Sun doesn’t shine.
I’ll bet it does shine there for him. Saint Al Gore is constantly demonstrating how big of an a$$ he really is.
😆😅🤣😂
I wonder if he’s ever had a real job where he would have to cope with ordinary folks.
He’s another professional politician who jumped directly from college to an elected position that his family’s influence bought for him.
His family fortune I believe was from Occidental PETROLEUM.
Another spoiled rich kid clueless about where everything he has been able to take for granted for his whole life comes from, on a “mission” to deprive everyone else.
Add Al Gore to Ed Milliband and we will have no industry, no money, be in hock to China but be hungry as well in our cold dark 15 minute neighbourhoods.
From Al Gore, per the above article:
“. . .in order to qualify for these subsidies, farmers basically have to assure the government that they are not going to engage in regenerative agriculture because the incentives have been to produce as much as possible as quickly as possible, fence row to fence row instead of taking care of the productivity of the soil and not depleting its vitality.”
No farmer worth the name is so careless as to not worry about maintaining the productivity of his/her farmlands . . . that would be tantamount to suicidal behavior.
Yet another example (beyond his fiction publication “An Inconvenient Truth”) that Al Gore pontificates on subjects about which he has very little actual knowledge . . . the Nobel Prize committee should be “Oh, so proud” of him!
As Lord Acton observed, “Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” The Nobel Peace Prize Committee reinforces his observation every time they give the likes of Obama and Gore public recognition and substantial monetary rewards for their political leanings rather than for actions that actually contribute to world peace.
The Nobel committee pretty much lost all credibility when they awarded the terrorist Yasser “We’re out of ammo -start the peace talks” Arafat their “peace prize.”
The cattle were basically a replacement farmed food source to replace the depleted Bison (Buffalo) that was hinted to near extinction. If man didn’t farm cattle or hunt buffalo then heads of buffalo in the millions would roam the planes burping and farting as they please.
The government wanted to get rid of the bison which were sustaining the Natives.
Cattle, and other farm animals, were raised in Europe and Asia for thousands of years before the New World was discovered by Europeans.
Not sure of these figures but 60 million Bison have been replaced by 20 million cattle.
“And it’s not just the end of meat, it would mean the end of dairy, too.”
What? I eat lots of Greek yogurt and love it.
The Greek Yogurt I eat (and love) is made from milk. A friend is also critical of it because it contains too much sugar (Lactose), too.
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“It will also mean that people will need to eat at least twice the bulk and as they do now to consume the same calories a day”, which is terribly unhealthy. Fixed it for you.
Let’s hope the alternative plant food is not made as tasty as meat. Most people in developed countries simply eat too much, and as a result become overweight with resulting health problems.
Here’s an AI Overview of the situation in the US.
“Approximately 74% of adults in the United States are classified as either overweight or obese.
This combined category, defined by a body mass index (BMI) of 25 or higher, includes:
Obese: Nearly 43% of US adults have obesity (BMI ≥30).
Overweight (not obese): Approximately 31% of adults fall into this category (BMI 25–29.9).”
They’re nit overweight because of eating meat. They’re overweight because of eating too many carbs.
I went on an Atkins diet once and lost 20 pounds and could and did eat all the meat I wanted during the diet.
According to Bryan A, ‘Meat offers around 700 Calories per pound consumed. Plants offer 200-400 calories per pound consumed’.
From an AI Overview, ‘People primarily become overweight or obese by consistently consuming more calories (energy) than their bodies use, a state known as an energy surplus. The body stores this excess energy, mostly as fat.’
‘Consuming excessive amounts of meat, particularly red and processed meats, can lead to becoming overweight or obese. High meat intake is often associated with a higher total daily calorie intake and is linked to increased body mass index (BMI)”
Check the source of your bolded sentence. I would be surprised if it’s not from an anti-meat source (even if it was published in a science journal). The “often associated” claim is a mark of weak or absent science and trying to hide the underlying agenda.
Where are the numbers to quantify and support the claim?
They have been demonizing fat for decades based on junk science, and fat is absolutely essential to the human diet.
Wonder why there is so much dementia and Alzheimer’s these days? Three words explain it – low fat diets.
A rather amusing bit of nonsense, but AI is good at that.
Consuming excessive amounts of anything other than cellulose is linked to increased BMI. People who overeat probably overeat everything, especially concentrated carbohydrates.
by consistently consuming more calories (energy) than their bodies use
Yes, and it’s a LOT easier to pack in the calories with sugar and other carbs than it is with meat.
I wouldn’t trust any LLM for dietary advice.
Not all calories are created equal, carbohydrates spike insulin, it causes the sugar in the bloodstream from carbohydrate consumption to be laid down as fat.
(Dirty Harry) “I guess we climb.”
(DeGeorgio) “I’ll find another way – too much linguini.”
They may eat too many calories, but do they really “eat too much”?
Where are those calories coming from?
If you drink coke and munch on chips all day long, get lunch at McD’s (small meat patty on a bun, large fries, large coke), and finish it up with pizza for dinner, what would you expect? (and yes, I’ve known a lot of people like that)
Big Al likes to assume that cows are fed only corn. No grazing in the ranches that he imagines.
Those who oppose meat as a part of our diets are apparently unaware that that much of the US beef is raised on marginal lands that are unsuitable for traditional farming because of the topography, insufficient water (cattle will take themselves to water), and/or thin infertile soils. Cattle are typically fattened on corn before being slaughtered because of consumer preference for ‘marbled’ meat. One can support any ideological position if the validity of the supporting ‘facts’ is not a concern.
Which is why herbivores like horses, sheep, cows,etc spend about 18 hours a day grazing and horses have 14 bowel movements per day with numerous outgassing events in between.
If everyone goes veggie – bigger sewers and sewer works will be needed… and gas masks.
Nice point!
https://foods.fatsecret.com/calories-nutrition/usda/ground-beef-(80%25-lean—20%25-fat)?portionid=41310&portionamount=1.000
1200 calories ?
Just think of the frightening amount of additional cr*p all that extra fibre would produce!
Methane is 2 bit player water vapour swamps it in the wave length that it operates when will these idiots work this out
They won’t work it out, because it has nothing to do with methane.
It’s the war on meat.
William Cooper has exposed this already 3 decades ago.
I remember as a child that they claimed that 50 – 150 millions Bison lived and were killed in the USA. (those numbers have been deflated in recent years, away from the guilt narrative in favor of the narrative)
Nowadays there is about 90 mio cattle there.
Then we have termites and ants that have a gigantic biomass and produce a lot methane and co2, yet no one gives a crap about those emissions,
because Climate, methane and co2,neo( pollutant after some massive scientific revisionism),
are just vehicles to push agendas.
Al Gore has no clue about climate, nor methane, nor food.
His BA is in politics iirc.
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He was a divinity studies student I believe.
Lord help us!
No pun intended?
No, the pun WAS intended.
And flunked, I heard.
Termites were once considered a major natural source of methane. However, in recent years, the official estimate has been downgraded. And the Tree Huggers are pushing to re-introduce beavers to locations from which they have been extirpated, without concern for the inevitable increase in natural methane from the wetlands created by the changes in land use.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/03/06/the-misguided-crusade-to-reduce-anthropogenic-methane-emissions/
Even the zealots realize that to control H2O, you must create either snowball earth (with all the oceans covered by a thick layer of ice) or desert earth (with all the oceans gone). Therefore they consistently ignore the most important GHG and focus on bit players like CO2 and CH4.
I didn’t realize Al Gore ate that much!
He doesn’t.
As a climate activist he only releases half of his farts currently(and is trying to reach net zero in that regard.),
that’s why his body looks so inflated.
Will he pay farmers his own money?
As Thomas Sowell says, there are no solutions, only tradeoffs. As bad as Bush Jr was, Al Gore would have caused far more harm if he had won in 2000.
Lurch as well. GW’s worst fault was getting rolled by Democrats.
Absolutely right!
GW would never push back against the Liars in the Democrat Party and the Leftwing Media. He let them get away with their lies and suffered as a result.
I think this is one reason the Media hates Trump so much because he calls them out on their lies. They wanted him to be meek like GW. Not going to happen!
I think we agree, the past is over.
He was rolled by Neocons.
He was rolled by whatever you classify Colin Powell as.
That too.
The Bush’s are the ultimate Neocons.
It shouldn’t be hard to find video compilations of both Bushes announcing the new world order.
They were close buddies of the Rockefellers for more than a hundred years,
building railroads for Standard Oil.
Financing Hitler alongside Rockefeller and JP Morgan.
GH was running the gloalist tool CiA while David Rockefeller was running the Bilderbergers.
The Bushs were the highest of the gloalist hierarchy(yet at best tier 3) to occupy officially such a high position.
I remember the picture of an American submarine surfacing and rescuing George H.W. Bush from a lagoon on a Japanese island after he was shot down and crashed in the ocean during a U.S. attack on the island and Japanese forces there.
George H.W. Bush was a legitimate hero. All caught on camera.
H.W. was part of the “Trilateral Commission.” Founded by a Rockefeller.
Lurch is worse. He knows hen he is lying, and it doesn’t bother him. He lies because it gives him power over weak minds.
Al Gore actually believes all the regurgitated ideas that come out of his mouth.
Gore would have been a disaster for the United States if he was elected president. Worse than Biden, if you can imagine that.
The U.S would have been doing Net Zero back in the year 2000. The U.S. would be bankrupt and a third-world nation right about now.
Bush was misunderestimated. (one of W’s words)
Spencer’s Third Law: For every social action there is an equal and opposite reaction, commonly called unintended consequences. Only rarely are those unintended consequences inconsequential.
I’m not so sure they’re always “unintended” either.
It is popularly believed that there are only two certainties in life: death and taxes. Actually, there’s a third one: the operation of the law of unintended consequences.
Biodynamic Agriculture was a particular
project of Heinrich Himmler. It has since
been renamed “organic” or “regenerative”
agriculture, and is still a rejection of science in favor of mysticism.
The board of Siemens should examine what
other Grenzwirtschaft systems Herr Snabbe adheres to. Theosophy? Ariosophy?
I remember reading that African men really liked “no-till” because tilling was the only part of the agricultural cycle that they did – women did the rest.
Catch-22 pointed out the insanity of paying a farmer to not grow alfalfa. The more he was paid to not grow alfalfa the more land he could buy to not grow alfalfa. Pretty soon he was not growing more alfalfa than anybody else in the county and was very rich, so people thought him very wise.
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It’s the chapter entitled Major Major for those who don’t know. Well worth a read.
In India they paid people a bounty to kill snakes to get rid of snakes.
Result : An unprecedented snake plague, as people started farming them for the bounty – and many escaped.
And the Spanish Inquisition paid people to find heresy, so they kept finding heresy.
Imagine someone would pay people to blame everything on co2 (+ methane).
I wonder what the results would be?
In the GHG area, the Chinese would build factories to produce refrigerants that had a high GHG rating. Then they would get paid to not produce the refrigerants.
Now that’s interesting,thx.
Probably also a plague of rodents.
“His specialty was alfalfa, and he made a good thing out of not growing any. The government paid him well for every bushel of alfalfa he did not grow. The more alfalfa he did not grow, the more money the government gave him, and he spent every penny he didn’t earn on new land to increase the amount of alfalfa he did not produce. Major Major’s father worked without rest at not growing alfalfa. On long winter evenings he remained indoors and did not mend harness, and he sprang out of bed at the crack of noon every day just to make certain that the chores would not be done.”
Some years ago the Northern Ireland government put aside money for a scheme which rewarded people for switching to (allegedly greener) wood-pellet furnaces; the more you burnt, the more money you got. It wasn’t until someone realised that they’d spent more than three times the designated funds in rewarding people who took up the offer that they woke up to the fact that the stuff was being burnt in order to get the subsidies, not because the heat was needed!
You can imagine the witch-hunt that followed to find the idiot who wrote the rules…
“I predict that we will have proteins not coming from meat in the future, they will probably taste even better. So why are we trying to mimic meat if we can have a better taste? They will be zero carbon and much healthier than the kind of food that we eat today,” Snabe added.
I predict that no such protein will be created. I present exactly as much evidence for my prediction as Snake did for his. (I was skimming and I swear to god I read it as Snake)
Our bodies got adjusted to natural food for millions of years – it is impossible to produce something that is healthier.
It also won’t taste better if we don’t define taste as an overload of sugar and glutamate.
What the WEF is saying here once again.
” You’ll eat shit and
You’ll love it “
I read it as ‘Snail’.
swear to god I read it as Snake
I saw “Snape” the first time around
If MREs are an example of how industry can make food taste better than a home-cooked meal of traditional foods, than I call ‘BS’ on the claim “they will probably taste even better.”
If an overweight loud-mouth buffoon moved out of his huge energy guzzling mansion, and into a small shack …
.. and stopped galivanting around the world in private jets and yachts…
… and stopped polluting the airwaves with his BS.
… that would make a HUGE difference.
If a billion people, or 1 AlGore, stopped eating meat, the price of meat would go down and it would mean that there would be more meat for the rest of us.
Al Gore, mannen som är så bra på prognoser som att Arktis skulle bli isfritt 2012. Han är också så känslig, i klass med Greta, när han vid ett tidigare Davos-möte hävdade att Jorden kokade.
You can say that again. I can’t, but you can.
Greta did what?
Had to check the date to make sure it wasn’t the 1st April.
Think thru his logic he wants to produce less food and given reduce production who does he thinks gets impacted the poor or the rich? I guess he really does want them to eat cake.
Like most of the elitists, he wants there to be a lot fewer peasants.
fewer peasants
It often seems like that, but I don’t understand what the gain is for them?
Or Soylent Green.
Turn Fat Albert into Soylent Green and you could feed a passing regiment.
They want to shut down meat production so they can sell more processed foods from their factories that are produced from soy and wheat and industrial seed oils, this also destroys health so that they sell more pharmaceuticals from their other factories, not to mention Glyphosate, insecticides and artificial fertilizers from their other factories.
Don’t forget to eat your “healthy whole grains” your “healthy fats” and get your “safe and effective”.
There would need to be three times the estimated land area required for plant based agriculture. You cannot keep reusing the same land year after year, thus the crop rotation system, year 1 crop A, year 2 crop B, ideally a legume, year 3 lie fallow. The reason that a full rotation system isn’t required is because of the use of organic fertiliser like manures from cattle and horses. Humans are omnivorous not vegetarian or vegan. Even cows and other ruminants cannot digest grass in one go, they have to regurgitate it as cud and have multiple stomachs.
Well if that money comes straight out of his own pocket… why not? Utterly idiotic leftardy idea like so many others…
Well the Climate Alarmist crew have so far focused on energy production and have managed to destroy cheap affordable energy from Western economies the result of that is de-industrialisation.
They are now focused on traditional food consumption and diet. The effect of this attack on traditional habits is to declare meat enemy number one. They want to focus on destroying traditional farming which has successfully fed the 8 billion + people now living on Earth. The result of this latest insanity from the Alarmists will be mass starvation as farms go out of business and we will see what happened in Zimbabwe when farmers are forced off their land.
Al Gore is clearly a man on a mission. Would somebody who speaks to him please ask what that ambition is, because it certainly s not a benefit to humanity?
Pardon the nick pick, but “cheap affordable” is redundant. Perhaps “cheap reliable”?
The man is an utterly deluded fool. Why does anybody listen to what he says?
“Sweets for the sweet.” Utterly deluded fools find him compelling.
Go away vegan..
“Eat what you want but don’t try to tell me what to eat.”
That would be a complete disaster. As I’ve mentioned before, currently around 70% of American are overweight, despite lot’s of advice on what constitutes a good diet and what one should eat to be healthy.
This “advice” is the sole biggest cause of health problems, closely followed by UPF, basically everything in the supermarket.
It is only a couple of weeks ago that the food pyramid was rearranged to be a lot more healthy.
It will take years before these insights are engrained in the people and their eating habits will change.
What “advice” are you referring to? The advice from advertisments of products in the supermarkets, or the conclusions of scientific studies?
You should be able to find many studies on the internet that conclude that meat-eaters are more prone to being overweight than vegans, or even semivegitarians who consume small amounts of meat.
Here’s one such study: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916523277084
“In conclusion, even if vegetarians consume some animal products as part of their diet, our results suggest that self-identified semivegetarian, lactovegetarian, and vegan women have a lower risk of overweight and obesity than do omnivorous women. Additional studies focusing on single nutrients are needed to elucidate the precise dietary mechanisms responsible for this association, and prospective or intervention studies that adjust for physical activity and other confounders are also needed. The advice to consume more plant foods and less animal products may help individuals control their weight.”
Nope.
Maybe the problem is the “advice”?
So, ALGore;The Goreacle wants to collapse agriculture worldwide. He will continue to eat and live in luxury, bet your ass on that.
Yawn
Why do you give this clown attention? For clicks?
re: “I predict that we will have proteins not coming from meat in the future, they will probably taste even better.”
Um, why don’t you work on that angle, come up with something on your own, bring it to market, thereby testing that concept and leave the rest of us the h3ll alone.
Al Gore is a liberal arts bullshitter and the biggest climate grifter on the planet. It is quite evident that this clown has no concept of any complex issues from science, engineering, nutrition, or farming. The sooner he passes on the better for the planet and all humans, so we can cremate him and convert him back into CO2, water, and fertilizer. I wonder does he realise that without fire (carbon energy) and cooked meat we would be little more than poorly evolved chimpanzees, and would never have been able to populate the world.
Why listen to Al Gore? He hs been shown many times to be a shameless fraud
There was an excellent letter to the Secretary of State at DEFRA: The Not Rearing Pigs Business
http://www.dearcustomerrelations.com/best-ever-mischief-letters/defra-the-not-rearing-pigs-business/
The whole world had a near miss disaster with Al Gore in the election. In fact the whole world was hanging by a chad. The dinosaurs were not so lucky with their near earth asteroid that was also the size of Al Gore.
When it comes to eating, Big Al doesn’t look like he’s given up much of anything.