Studying Skeptics Through a Keyhole: Why Climate Communication Research Can’t See What It Refuses to Understand

Charles Rotter

Bernhard Forchtner’s paper, “The Rise of (Affective) Obstruction: Conceptualizing the Evolution of Far-Right Climate Change Communication (1986–2018)”, is presented as a neutral, longitudinal investigation into how climate skepticism supposedly “evolved” on the political right. It spans more than thirty years, codes 733 articles, and deploys a sophisticated vocabulary of “affect,” “emotive economies,” and “melodramatic narration” to explain why opposition to climate policy exists at all.

Yet from the outset, the paper makes clear that it is not trying to understand skeptics. It is trying to explain them away.

ABSTRACT

Research has illustrated that today’s far right in the Global North takes largely climate obstructionist stances, commonly featuring ageist/misogynistic/racist tropes. However, little is known about how this present became to be, how climate change was articulated in the 2000s and earlier. I therefore ask: how has far-right climate communication evolved between 1986 and 2018? Have there been notable changes at the level of both specific claims and their emotiveness – and if so, what might explain them? In response, I analyze 733 articles printed across four exemplary, continuously published (non-)party sources covering the Austrian and German far-right spectrum, in order to offer a novel conceptualization of three periods: benevolent silence (1986-1996), concerned acceptance (1997-2006), and antagonistic obstruction (2007-2018). Thus, I show that the far right became today’s (affective-)obstructionist force and link this shift to: the US climate countermovement; dynamics in the political field; and, interrelated, increasingly melodramatic (affective) climate communication, turning climate change into another site for the making of far-right subjectivity. By conceptualizing three periods, by considering the development over time of both specific claims and affect, and by suggesting reasons behind this evolution, I substantively contribute to understanding far-right climate obstruction and the anti-liberal/anti-democratic backlash it facilitates.

The author states early on that the far right “takes largely obstructionist stances, i.e. opposing effective climate action.” That sentence looks innocuous until one pauses to notice what is being smuggled in. “Effective climate action” is treated as a settled category, not an open question. Opposition is therefore not disagreement but obstruction by definition. No evaluation of policy outcomes is offered. No cost–benefit analysis is attempted. Effectiveness is assumed, not demonstrated.

This framing is never revisited. It is the theological axiom on which the entire paper rests.

Throughout the study, skepticism is defined not as an intellectual challenge to climate claims or climate policy, but as a cultural and emotional deviation. Forchtner repeatedly emphasizes that obstruction is not primarily about evidence or uncertainty, but about feelings:

“Obstruction revolves not simply around propositional knowledge (specific claims) but ‘affective positioning’; obstruction is also affective obstruction.”

This is not an incidental remark. It is the paper’s central move. By redefining skepticism as affective positioning rather than analytical judgment, the author exempts himself from having to engage with skeptical arguments at all. One does not debate emotions; one diagnoses them.

Later, skepticism is explicitly framed as a community-building exercise rather than a reasoned stance:

“The far right is also a ‘community of feelings’ which offers ‘alternative perceptions, interpretations and feelings about everyday phenomena, political debates and the right-wing project itself’.”

Note what is absent. There is no mention of alternative models, alternative interpretations of climate sensitivity, alternative readings of observational data, or alternative risk assessments. The alternatives that matter here are emotional, not analytical.

This pattern continues when the paper describes how skepticism allegedly functions psychologically:

“Climate change became another site… of (re)producing far-right subjectivity and Othering of, e.g. ‘globalist elites’, ‘Greens’, ‘the left’ and racialized Others.”

Here, disagreement with climate policy is not treated as disagreement with policy. It is treated as a tool for identity construction, moral boundary drawing, and social antagonism. Skepticism is not wrong; it is suspect.

The author’s own language makes clear that skepticism is viewed as a moral failure rather than an epistemic one. Opposition to climate policy is said to “facilitate the anti-liberal/anti-democratic backlash.” This claim appears in both the abstract and the conclusion, functioning as a kind of moral bookend to the analysis.

But nowhere is this causal chain demonstrated. No evidence is presented that skepticism causes authoritarianism, nor that acceptance of climate alarmism prevents it. The association is asserted, not argued.

The most revealing passages are those in which the author describes the emotional “inversion” he believes characterizes skepticism:

“What was accepted and an object of concern (human-induced climate change), became opposed, with concern attached to climate protection and contempt for those driving it.”

This sentence is meant as an indictment. In reality, it is an admission.

Yes—concern shifted from speculative climate projections to concrete climate policies. That shift was not emotional pathology. It was rational prioritization. Policies are tangible. They have measurable costs. They affect energy prices, industrial competitiveness, household budgets, grid stability, and food production. Climate models, by contrast, are abstractions with widening uncertainty ranges the further they project.

The paper never asks why concern might rationally move in that direction. Instead, it treats the shift as evidence of “melodrama,” “antagonism,” and “affective obstruction.”

That framing becomes explicit when the author claims:

“Period 3 is characterized by an increasingly antagonistic attitude of clear-cut boundaries and certainty rather than rhetorical constraint, ambiguity, and doubt.”

This is one of the paper’s most ironic passages. Climate skepticism is being criticized for certainty by an academic field that routinely declares “the science is settled,” labels dissent as dangerous, and frames climate change as an existential emergency requiring immediate, sweeping intervention.

If anyone has abandoned rhetorical constraint and doubt, it is not the skeptics.

The paper’s treatment of scientific disagreement further illustrates its ideological enclosure. When skeptics invoke uncertainty, alternative explanations, or methodological critiques, these are framed not as arguments but as imported talking points, often attributed to malign influence:

“The article traces this evolution back to… the US climate change countermovement which diffused obstructionist views within the European far right already during the 1990s.”

This explanation absolves European skeptics of agency while simultaneously denying them intellectual autonomy. They did not reason their way to skepticism; they were infected by it. Ideas do not spread because they explain anomalies or resolve contradictions. They spread because of networks, ideology, and affect.

That is the worldview on display.

Even when the paper acknowledges internal dissent—articles within the same publications defending mainstream climate science or warning against conspiratorial thinking—these are treated as deviations from the narrative rather than evidence that skepticism is internally contested and intellectually heterogeneous.

One such intervention is quoted by the author himself, warning that denying greenhouse-gas risks would be “fatal” from a scientific point of view. Yet this moment is not used to interrogate why skepticism persists despite such warnings. Instead, it is presented as a lost battle against an inevitable slide into obstruction.

The possibility that skepticism might be responding to real weaknesses in climate science or climate policy is never entertained.

Most striking is the paper’s repeated insistence that skepticism is fundamentally melodramatic:

“Through melodrama, powerful affective responses are circulated to ‘stick to’ and ‘stick together’, to increase polarization of ‘good vs. evil’.”

This would be a devastating critique—if it were not a perfect description of mainstream climate communication itself. Apocalypse framing. Moral binaries. Urgency narratives. Children as symbols. Dissenters as villains. These are not inventions of skeptics. They are staples of climate advocacy.

Yet the paper treats melodrama as a one-way phenomenon, flowing outward from skeptics while leaving the dominant narrative untouched.

In the end, the paper accomplishes exactly what climate communication research has been doing for years: it studies opposition without granting it intellectual dignity. It catalogs language without engaging substance. It interprets disagreement as pathology. It substitutes affect theory for epistemology.

The most honest sentence in the entire paper is likely unintentional. When Forchtner writes that skepticism turns climate change into “another site for the making of far-right subjectivity,” he reveals the underlying assumption: climate change already belongs to one side. To resist that ownership is not to argue, but to trespass.

Until climate researchers are willing to step outside that assumption—until they can imagine that skepticism might arise from disciplined uncertainty rather than emotional deficiency—they will continue producing elaborate studies that explain everything except the thing that matters.

They may quote skeptics endlessly.

They may code them meticulously.

They may analyze their “affective economies” until the funding runs out.

They will still have no idea why climate skepticism exists.

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mleskovarsocalrrcom
January 7, 2026 2:12 pm

Can’t hide his bias.

Bryan A
Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
January 7, 2026 3:13 pm

today’s far right in the Global North takes largely climate obstructionist stances, commonly featuring ageist/misogynistic/racist tropes.

When you have no argument to stand on, start libel-ing your opposition as some “IST”
Ageist
Misogynist
Racist
Doesn’t prove your point only how flimsy it really is.

Who was it in a debate that accused his opposition of being a Habitual Masticator?

MarkW
Reply to  Bryan A
January 7, 2026 3:36 pm

Sounds a little like LBJ, he once accused another opponent of being a known thespian.

Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
January 7, 2026 5:03 pm

It is almost as if he was looking in a mirror, and got his left and right mixed up. !

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
January 7, 2026 5:53 pm

Did this d-bag mention “Far Left” anywhere in his article?

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
January 8, 2026 1:56 am

These people think that far left is the centre ground and anything to the right of that is far right. We get it all the time in the UK. Anyone who supports Farage is labelled as far right.

Reply to  JeffC
January 8, 2026 5:32 am

Personally, I might be on the far side, but not the far right. 🙂

Reply to  JeffC
January 9, 2026 7:56 pm

While Farage in reality is more of a controlled opposition. The safe choice if things go bad. And people like Tony Robinson are supported by the Neo Zionists..

Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
January 7, 2026 6:30 pm

Come on! This was written by AI, not an actual human. It’s gibberspeak. “Conceptualizing affective obstruction” is meaningless tripe planted right in the title. “Longitudinal”, “emotive economies”, “lock-in effects of material infrastructures”, “neoliberal climate countermovement”, “periodization”, “ethno-nationalist nativism”, “affective resignification”, “Othering”, “multimodal representation” and on and on. 

It’s a remarkable piece in that the words used are not actual words at all, just sounds strung together that might mean something but don’t. People, real people, don’t do that. Therefore, and I think it’s obvious, the supposedly “scientific” paper was written by a bot, and not a very good bot but an old one running outdated software. Or else it’s a Po-Po-Mo spoof.

Reply to  OR For
January 8, 2026 5:36 am

Many nitwits in “the liberal arts” love that kind of language- which substitutes for real thinking. But, I’m disappointed that I didn’t see his pronouns. I thought it was obligatory in their world.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  OR For
January 8, 2026 6:49 am

affective: Pertaining to feelings, emotions, mood, or attitudes; influencing or expressing emotion.

Reply to  OR For
January 9, 2026 8:01 pm

I don’t know. They used to write this kind of gibberish way before AI.
However, i suspect they actually did.
It is so much easier w AI. It all depends on what the ‘writer’ is aiming for and sets the quality. I take it very few people actually read these kinds of things. All they are interested in is having the target words displayed. Funnily enough i do the same. You can just scan it f those checklist words.

Russell Cook
Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
January 7, 2026 6:49 pm

  Can’t hide his bias.

Yep. Just drop in a single word name to turn it up. Midway into the paper is this right here:

… since the mid-1990s, obstruction simmers. For example, [Neue Freie Zeitung] uncritically summarizes a speech by the “merchant of doubt” Fred Singer (Oreskes & Conway, 2010) in the Austrian parliament … voicing claims which became staples in far-right climate obstruction …

This paper could be torpedoed on that false claim alone. If anyone deserves the title ‘doubt merchant’ in the climate issue, it is Naomi Oreskes, from all of her efforts to spread doubt about the credibility of skeptic climate scientists.

Reply to  Russell Cook
January 10, 2026 6:33 am

Naomi Oreskes is more like The Merchant of Bullshit.

Edward Katz
January 7, 2026 2:28 pm

There seems to be a remarkable amount of philosophizing here worthy of many current college liberal arts courses. Except the skepticism is hardly confined to right-wingers, particularly when citizens of all backgrounds have noticed that calls for climate action have inevitably been accompanied by higher living costs and questionable restrictions and mandates. Meanwhile these same citizens don’t see any huge changes in overall climate or in daily weather phenomena beyond the usual fluctuations which modern conveniences are equipped to handle anyway.

Reply to  Edward Katz
January 7, 2026 5:08 pm

School of Arts, media and Communication…

That would be someone with absolutely ZERO knowledge of science of any sort.

Reply to  bnice2000
January 8, 2026 5:38 am

In their world all you need now is to know how to write prompts to your favorite AI.

ntesdorf
January 7, 2026 2:29 pm

We, the ‘far-right climate sceptics’, have noticed that over the last 45 years, nothing to cause any alarm has happened to the climate or weather, which continues to alter and evolve as it always has. However, we have noticed a significant cash grab by the proponents of ‘Climate Alarm’.

C_Miner
Reply to  ntesdorf
January 7, 2026 7:10 pm

The rejection of considering the null hypothesis and instead jumping straight to “unprecedented in history!” by those making a living off of studying this (and thereby having a finger on the scale because no one wants to do themselves out of a career) should be a primary discussion item. Good luck getting academia to notice this as they’retoo busy erasing the past to generate the glorious future.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  ntesdorf
January 8, 2026 6:59 am

“over the last 45 years, nothing to cause any alarm has happened”

… in contrast to all of the affective alarmism and emotional appeals made during those decades.

January 7, 2026 2:51 pm

In 1938, Simpson and Brunt explained politely why they were skeptical of Callendar’s attribution of reported warming to rising concentrations of CO2 from the burning of coal. Nothing to do with political views. Their comments arose from a technical sense of how the atmosphere behaves in motion.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/04/06/open-thread-138/#comment-4058322

Same today, when I post about dynamic energy conversion within the general circulation. It’s a technical subject, known from before the introduction of computer models for numerical weather prediction.

Thank you for your patience in this matter.

J Boles
January 7, 2026 3:01 pm

Far right skeptics!? HA! How can I be a climate skeptic when NONE of their models are worth a hoot, none of their predictions have come true, and they have been making fools of themselves for 50 years with their “SKY IS FALLING” bull cookies, all the while grasping for more money. Their scam is obvious.

Bryan A
January 7, 2026 3:04 pm

I first read The heading…

Why Climate Communication Research Can’t See What It Refuses to Understand

As
Why Climate Communism Research Can’t See What It Refuses to UnderstandAND…
Works either way

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Bryan A
January 8, 2026 7:00 am

or, perhaps, Why “Trans-Climate Alarmists” Can’t See What They Refuse to Understand…

Forrest Gardener
January 7, 2026 3:12 pm

Pretty clumsy stuff by Forchtner. I wonder what he sees in the mirror. On second thought, no I don’t. Rational thinking will eventually prevail in matters which require it even if the unthinking are yet to discover the matters in which it is required.

Admin
January 7, 2026 3:48 pm

I’d love if someone who speaks Russian could dig up an old official state psychological analysis of Soviets who reject Lysenkoism, I bet it would read the same.

Mr.
Reply to  Eric Worrall
January 7, 2026 6:25 pm

Nyet, Erictovich.

January 7, 2026 3:50 pm

From the article: “Bernhard Forchtner’s paper, “The Rise of (Affective) Obstruction: Conceptualizing the Evolution of Far-Right Climate Change Communication (1986–2018)”, is presented as a neutral, longitudinal investigation into how climate skepticism supposedly “evolved” on the political right.”

It is not neutral when it starts out using “far-right” as a description, as though every one on the Right is an extremists.

This is Far-Left propaganda dressed up as a neutral study.

Somebody ought to do a study on why the Far-Left has to Lie about everything.

Richard M
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 7, 2026 6:30 pm

It’s all they have.

gyan1
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 7, 2026 6:36 pm

“Somebody ought to do a study on why the Far-Left has to Lie about everything.”

It’s because their ridiculous beliefs can’t survive critical examination. Making things up that aren’t true is all they have.

C_Miner
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 7, 2026 6:56 pm

In the US it has been noted that conservatives think that liberals are misguided but can probably be converted to other views through discussion and examination of facts. Liberals think that conservatives are evil because they “know” the truth but try to deny it for their own selfish reasons.

The same thinking is on display in this “paper”. One cannot use logic to change their views on something that they “know” to be true, even though (or perhaps because) they don’t realize that their belief is a religious one and that they won’t allow their faith to be swayed (or even questioned).

GeorgeInSanDiego
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 8, 2026 11:02 pm

To the collectivist, anyone who is not to the left of Leon Trotsky is far right.

Kieran O'Driscoll
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 9, 2026 7:42 am

Marx was an average intellectual parasite with zero talents who ran nothing not even a lemonade stand… When you are at best average and with no discernable talents, you can study liberal since there are no longer educational standards in universities just fees and marxist-feminist indoctrination…. funny since they are all run as “businesses”…. and that describes the average lefty today. Jealous of everyone and think they have wisdom.

Reply to  Kieran O'Driscoll
January 9, 2026 8:10 pm

Bah humbug. He was an excellent writer and a pretty good political analist and economist. You would know that if you had actually read his works.
His major flaw was his proposal of solutions to the problems inherent in Capitalism. Denying Capitalism has problems is denying the flaws of a system and only see the benefits..

Reply to  ballynally
January 11, 2026 6:52 am

Attacking capitalism because it isn’t “perfect” with the underlying aim to replace it ignores the very inconvenient truth – all of the alternatives, in particularthe one he championed – ARE FAR WORSE.

I don’t recall supporters of capitalism claiming it “doesn’t have any problems,” i.e. that it is “perfect.” That does not mean there is any better alternative, so what’s the point?

It is capitalism that supports individual freedom.

It is capitalism that has lifted billions out of poverty.

It is capitalism that maximizes human productivity and enhances innovation.

If people are so eager to experience the “benefits” of socialism, they should move to Cuba.

Tom_Morrow
January 7, 2026 3:51 pm

I am not well-versed in the deep technical aspects of climate science, but I did spend half my engineering career doing validation and verification of materials, parts and systems. I adopted the old motto of the Royal Society “Nullius in Verba” as my guiding principle (I say old because they seem to have abandoned it in their blind support of climate doom prophecy).

Much of the stuff the climate doom prognosticators do is appeal to authority.

However, the entire enterprise fails to have passed the first two steps of Carl Sagan’s Baloney Detection Kit –

  1. Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the “facts.”
  2. Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.

The vilification and ostracization of scientists who disagree is testament to the very strong possibility that the climate change proponents are based in politics rather than science.

Reply to  Tom_Morrow
January 8, 2026 5:41 am

I’m pretty sure I saw an old video of Sagan talking about the dangers of climate change. Or maybe not.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Tom_Morrow
January 8, 2026 7:04 am

This is not about the environment. This is about changing the world’s economy (and pursuit of a UN led One World Order). Parentheticals are adds, the rest is a paraphrase of a UN official statement (more than one, actually).

January 7, 2026 3:58 pm

The author never once mentioned or considered that the main reason “climate skepticism” exists is because the theory has more holes in it than Swiss cheese! Alarmists – please address these holes , backed up with data – not models – and then do an honest (not model based) cost-benefit analysis of any proposed policies and then maybe maybe we can come to the table & have a rational discussion.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Jeff L
January 8, 2026 7:05 am

Of course that is how it should be approached. However:

“I am not programmed to respond in that area”
— Start Trek, I, Mudd

applies.

Bruce Cobb
January 7, 2026 4:37 pm

Climate Belief on the other hand, appears to be its own brand of psychopathology.

Cy
January 7, 2026 4:47 pm

Hard fail when the abstract is fully focused on the undefined pejorative “far right”.

Max More
January 7, 2026 4:52 pm

Apparently when we talk about “them” it is “othering” but when they talk about us as a single group, it is not.

Mr.
January 7, 2026 5:26 pm

Great analysis Charles. Very insightful.

My “denialism” (for want of a more adult term) was spawned by 2 unsupportable tenets of the climate activism cabal –

  1. Manmade carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere had never-before-seen logarithmic powers of weather disruption way above & beyond its almost negligible concentration in the air mass;
  2. A “climate emergency / crisis” (whatever that is supposed to mean) would inevitably result in devastation that would see the annihilation of most species on Earth in quick time.

Beyond this, we were exhorted to compulsorily buy “the whole package” that the climate cabal were attempting to inflict on modern societies & their economies –

  • abandonment of available, effective, efficient, affordable energy resources in favor of stone-age and ancient technologies that had already proven to be ineffective, inefficient, expensive;
  • electrification of plant, tools, appliances, conveyances, etc that had already been established and evolved to be the most practical for our needs powered by those available, effective, efficient, affordable energy resources.

Make no mistake – this whole climate construct is just another ideological device aimed at securing compliance / control / power over the masses.

And the $$$$$$$$$s. Never ignore the $$$$$$$$$s.

Richard M
January 7, 2026 6:32 pm

This is just another example of the far-left projecting their own fallacies.

gyan1
January 7, 2026 6:32 pm

These idiots are so sure of their moral righteousness that they’re incapable of thinking they could be wrong. The paper is pure projection accusing rational skeptics of exactly the emotional manipulations they engage in.

Bob
January 7, 2026 7:05 pm

There is no shame in obstructing lies. I do it every chance I get.

Tom Johnson
January 7, 2026 7:44 pm

It is interesting to note how those on the left seem to be blissfully unaware of their own flaws and biases but then accurately project those biases and flaws onto their technical opponents. There must be no mirrors in Leftist LA LA land.

gyan1
Reply to  Tom Johnson
January 8, 2026 5:57 am

They are so far off in La La land that they comprehend common sense or what’s happening in the real world.

Reply to  Tom Johnson
January 9, 2026 8:15 pm

I think it is more of a general principle not only generated by leftists.
I spot it in people on the right. Try talking about Trump and Israel, you get exactly the same thing..
Culture wars, both denying their flaws.

Michael Flynn
January 7, 2026 7:54 pm

Far-Right Climate Change Communication . . .

It’s pretty simple. Weather never repeats itself, the atmosphere being chaotic. Climate is the statistics of weather observations. Hence, the climate is always changing.

No need for “Communication”. It doesn’t matter what your religion, race, or political persuasion is. Nature carries on doing what she does, and, as Feynman said, Nature can’t be fooled.

It looks like the inmates of the sheltered workshop known as “School of Arts, Media, and Communication, University of Leicester, Leicester, UK”, are being overly coddled by their supervisors.

A dose of reality needs to be administered.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Michael Flynn
January 8, 2026 7:08 am

It is extreme hubris to claim that humans can control the weather, let alone the statistical average of weather (known as climate).

Art Slartibartfast
January 8, 2026 12:08 am

Nicely done critique of the article, Charles. Why not send it to the Environmental Communication journal for publication? If they have any scientific integrity, they will publish it and allow the author to argument against it. That is how scientific debate works.

Iain Reid
January 8, 2026 12:23 am

There is only one reason that climate change as portrayed by those in apparent authority is that far too many accept and do as they are told, without question.
Science is based on challenge, evidence and verification.
CO2 driving climate, really, evidence and verification please.

gyan1
Reply to  Iain Reid
January 8, 2026 6:01 am

“CO2 driving climate, really, evidence and verification please.”

Impossible, there is zero evidence supporting the lie that CO2 is a major driver of climate. Multiple lines of empirical evidence show that it isn’t.

Reply to  gyan1
January 10, 2026 9:08 pm

Absolutely. And the authors of this tripe busy projecting their own “side’s” behavior onto those they disagree with are blind to THAT being the ACTUAL source of RIGHTFUL skepticism.

They don’t have a scrap of empirical evidence to support their claims. Just hypothetical bullshit from the 1800s and models that assume it to be carved-in-stone fact.

Science is SUPPOSED TO BE based on comparing one’s hypothesis and predictions made thereon TO REALITY, and adjusting or discarding hypotheses that are not supported by observations. Yet their answers remain set in stone regardless of how many times the real world tells them they are WRONG.

What the pseudo-scientists pushing the “climate crisis” crap are doing is activism, not science. So-called “climate science” is nothing more than a secular religion.

January 8, 2026 5:30 am

Apparently, Bernhard Forchtner didn’t study WUWT. That’s all he needed to understand why many very intelligent people hate the climate emergency BS. He’d have to read a lot of the site to really get it- the back and forth with resident alarmists to see how that perspective is failing.

Sparta Nova 4
January 8, 2026 6:46 am

“the anti-liberal/anti-democratic backlash it facilitates”

Oh boy.

John XB
January 8, 2026 7:35 am

The Far Right = scepticism, curiosity, knowledge acquisition, self-teaching, critical analysis, intelligent thinking, intellectual rigour, exchange of ideas/views, debate, common sense, observation from experience.