Essay by Eric Worrall
Climate scientists embracing their inner eco-fascist?
‘Carrots’ can’t save the climate – we need a big ‘stick’
Publicly released: Mon 22 Dec 2025 at 2100 AEDT | Mon 22 Dec 2025 at 2300 NZDT
Subsidies for green technologies (‘carrots’) may help in the short-term, but punishment policies like charging for carbon emissions (‘sticks’) are likely needed as well to greatly reduce CO2 emissions by 2050, according to a US study. Researchers used a computer model of the US that included factors like socioeconomics, energy systems and consumer demands to look at the effects of ‘carrot-first’ policies, in which the ‘stick’ was introduced in 2035 or in 2045. They found that the size of the ‘stick’ (i.e. the price of carbon) would have to be just as big, or even bigger, than if only a ‘stick’ policy was used, without any ‘carrots’ to sweeten the deal. The researchers said that although ‘carrot’ policies are more appealing to governments to appease big industries and voters, leaders need to start hitting out with ‘sticks’ to make sure CO2 emissions dramatically decrease by 2050.
Read more: https://www.scimex.org/newsfeed/carrots-cant-save-the-climate-we-need-a-big-stick
The abstract of the study;
- Article
- Published: 22 December 2025
Modelling the impacts of policy sequencing on energy decarbonization
- Huilin Luo,
- Wei Peng,
- Allen Fawcett,
- Jessica F. Green,
- Gokul Iyer,
- Jonas Meckling,
- Jonas Nahm &
- David G. Victor
Nature Climate Change (2025)Cite this article
Abstract
Many political jurisdictions have embraced climate policy strategies that emphasize large subsidies to deploy green technologies (‘carrots’) with the anticipation that more punitive policies (‘sticks’) may follow. However, little is known about how such policy sequencing affects future policies, emission reductions and costs. Using a multisector model for the USA, we examine carrot-first policies which mimic the increasingly popular interest in industrial policy and offer a way to model these real-world policy choices in energy-system models. We find that a carrot-first policy strategy still requires later use of similar-sized sticks when compared with a policy strategy that begins with sticks and achieves the same levels of long-term decarbonization. Policy carrots alone do not dramatically reduce future emissions. Only with policy sticks are there unambiguous signals to substantially shrink the size of incumbent fossil fuel industries.
Read more (paywalled): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-025-02497-6
Sticks are only required in the context of energy policy if the energy policy doesn’t make sense.
When the world transitioned from whale oil to kerosene between 1860 to 1870, it was pretty much all over by 1870. No government subsidies or coercion were required, because the energy transition made sense. Whale oil was expensive and smelly, and kerosene was cheap and had a less offensive odour.
In addition sticks can lead to bad outcomes. Whether it be sky high energy prices in green states like California or New York’s unheated school bus horror WUWT recently reported, driving energy use change with coercion forces people into bad situations they wouldn’t choose of their own free will.
The silver lining to this nastiness is this is the demand for coercion is tantamount to an admission the renewable transition has failed, that green technology is not ready to replace fossil fuel. Ordinary people are rejecting the renewable energy transition on a scale which makes Net Zero goals impossible without the use of coercion and force. Otherwise desperate greens wouldn’t be advocating depriving people of liberty to make their own choices.
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Looking at the authors’ CVs, one finds an abundance of non-science, political, and DEI isms.
CO2 Cap and trade, CO2 taxes, CO2 offset credits, all of those and others have been tried and accomplished 3 things. (1) No reduction in CO2; (2) Wealth generation for the barterers and traders; and (3) ever higher prices for the people who could least afford price increases ~ 99.97% of the population.
Likely they got paid to produce that propaganda.
“Wealth generation“
Documenting who among the global warming activists made lots of money and how much would be interesting. And, I suppose, some folks might have decreased their wealth having started with a lot. Historically, an investigating press corps would do such a thing.
“There is a club and you ain’t in it”. -Carlin
I agree. It is to be expected that these cowards demand punishments for bad behaviour from which they will be exempted. Massacres are always bloodless when it’s others doing all the bleeding. And all of them should forego all of the uses and benefits of carbon fuels which they now enjoy. That includes pretty much all medical pharmaceuticals. Then they might feel the pain they are demanding that others endure.
I also couldn’t help but notice that a couple of the authors hail from a country that probably isn’t too interested in de-carbonizing anytime in the near future. I would certainly encourage them to try out their ‘big stick’ approach in their native land before foisting it on the rest of us.
All sarcasm aside, these people must be laughing their butts off at the entrenched gullibility of the West.
Rule by experts, the despotism of the privileged intelligentsia, the entitlement of the annointed.
Looking at the authors’ CVs, one finds an abundance of non-science, political, and DEI isms.
Leftys do like to model everyone and then conclude we all need progressing with their next five year plan and great leap forward-
Study suggests vaccinating boys key to eliminating cervical cancer
Climate changing covid vaxing and lashings of positive discrimination all fit their modus operandi.
Great leap forward… off a cliff.
“a multisector model for the USA”
There you have it. It must be true. The model says so.
Is the /s needed?
No /s needed.
A /bs is needed.
Not to mention, all the authors of the study use FF every minute of every day of their lives, so they are just being hypocrites and posing for a fake glamour shot.
They can show the article to their friends and say, “I’m in touch with my inner climate totalitarian!”
“Researchers used a computer model “
Sure hope that computer was only powered by “Green Energy”. Otherwise ‘Researchers are the Problem’ and need to pay a giant carbon tax.
Coercion is all tyrants have because nobody will willingly harm their own self interest.
The public needs to be educated about the false narratives, cherry picked data, bias and circular reasoning underlying the climate con.
Yes,
It’s leftist practice to always resort to enforceable authoritarian edicts to achieve outcomes they can’t accomplish by offering reasoned propositions, logic, convincing arguments, benefits for users.
What is it about leftists and their disdain for ordinary people?
“What is it about leftists and their disdain for ordinary people?”
They have an egoistic need to be seen as superior which they believe entitles them to make decisions for others. Nobel cause corruption defines them and prevents them from seeing anything outside of the ideological prison of self righteousness which can’t survive critical examination.
‘They have an egoistic need to be seen as superior which they believe entitles them to make decisions for others.’
Apparently the Krell are still with us…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f2BYyeS-fIU
Cart before horse? Communist propaganda took over the “democratic” “socialist” movements just in order to generate the next cycle of violent conflict. Environmentalism simply supplied a number, but not all of their useful idiots. Eco-fascism is just the next stage in the Marxist progression.
“…little is known about how such policy sequencing affects future policies, emission reductions and costs.”
And by writing a computer model of what the writers think might be, we remain with little knowledge. Why on earth do supposed science journals print conclusions from so people with so little demonstrated knowledge?
“Why on earth do supposed science journals print conclusions from so people with so little demonstrated knowledge?”
Because editorial control of narratives benefiting stakeholders can be implemented by just a few people like they do with legacy media. Hopefully the administration will prosecute the corruption dominating scientific journals. They are investigating..
“…Because editorial control of narratives benefiting stakeholders can be implemented by just a few people..”
Yes. Same with the professional organizations. The political climbers rise to the top because the technical folks are too busy doing actual work.
I find it a shame that the “carrot on a stick” metaphor has been misinterpreted in the common zeitgeist for perhaps the last 50 years.
Folks think of it as “a carrot or a stick”.
Good catch.
I am glad to see this post. Nothing could make it more clear CAGW is not about science or climate or even economics. It is purely political, power and control. The subsidies are not a carrot rather they are an admission that wind, solar and storage don’t work, are unaffordable and can’t stay in business with out government support. It is most distressing that highly educated people would not only accept the lie that renewables work but promote the notion that the strong arm of government must force people to do really stupid things that everyone knows don’t work. This is a black eye for our education establishment, our scientific community and our government. I am ashamed that our country produces crap like this, it is unacceptable.
Oh noes! No more Mr. Nice Guy. This time they really mean business.
Bah-hahahahahahaha!
Thousands of laws (mandates) passed. Trillions of dollars spent. And to what effect?
* The climate hasn’t changed in any measurable way
* Atmospheric CO2 concentration has measurably increased
* A few people (e.g. Al Gore) have made out like bandits
* Most people are worse off
* We have scared the hell out of many children who lack any real data on the issues
The big stick is already in effect in western China, with half a million ethnic people in prisons making half the world’s supply chain for silicon solar cells with coal power plants. And with full scale buying of such goods in Australia and the EU, one has to conclude coordinated enslavement for the good of the climate body.
Time for these guys to step up and lead by example–cutting carbon emissions by no longer exhaling.
That would save 2 lb. per day per person.
Based on America’s experience with enforced rationing in World War II, Joe Biden had legal authority while he was president to declare a climate emergency and to issue an executive order imposing a program of strict fossil fuel rationing on the American economy. But for some reason which is completely unfathomable to these eco-facist climate activists, Joe Biden — or at least the people who made all the decisions in the White House while Biden was president — chose not to do this.
Biden depleted the national oil reserve so people could fill their cars.
Fits in with your thoughts.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
The insanity will continue until sufficient damage is accrued.
Why do we need to force down carbon dioxide emissions? It is a good gas and essential to the life of plants and animals and does no harm . The quantity in the atmosphere that is man made has a negligible effect due to the fact that the atmosphere is almost “saturated”anyway. Maybe we should clean up any pollution that may accompany the burning of fossil fuels but that is all.
“Why do we need to force down carbon dioxide emissions?”
Good question.
There has never been any evidence supplied which shows CO2 needs to be reduced.
The whole Climate Alarmists narrative is based on nothing that can be substantiated. They are shooting in the dark.
Here’s another example of the climate alarmists’ desperation as they realize they’re losing the battle to convince the people that some sort of climate crisis exists. They see that their efforts to inflate a non-problem so that some sort of government and private action costing everyone more money and inconvenience are becoming increasingly less credible so now they’re advocating draconian measures that will force everyone to see the light, or else. Except almost everyone has been noticing that light for a number of years now and realize it’s no brighter than a single candle. Therefore the credibility of the doomsday purveyors has become just another guttering flame.
These authors are still under the impression they can make changes.
They don’t realize their Climate Alarmists Net Zero Delusions have run their course
Tinpot dictators, so eager to tell others how to live. Cherish your second amendment.
“…When the world transitioned from whale oil to kerosene between 1860 to 1870,..”
When oil was first starting to be produced the only marketable products were the kerosene cut for lamp oil and the heavy cut for lubricating oils. About half the barrel was a toxic waste product that had to be burned off. Enter Henry Ford and the mass produced ICE. All of a sudden there was a market for pretty much the full barrel.
The point is that if the climaphobics were successful in banning ICEs, over a third of the barrel would become a useless by-product or would have to be cracked to ethylene for a very expensive replacement for plastic feed stocks.
“punishment policies like charging for carbon emissions (‘sticks’) are likely needed as well”
Just for Americans, right?
“they” are absolutely right, we do need a big stick to ram up their collectivist a$$es.
The way to reduce CO2 emissions is to Increase Energy Efficiency. Fossil fuels like natural gas and coal are combusted, but every appliance has a chimney, and going up those chimneys is the energy that did not make it into the combustion process. That 20% to 50% energy goes up the chimney into the atmosphere ~ Wasted. In that exhaust is heat (Btu’s) and CO2 and condensation (water)
Waste Is Not Waste If It Has A Purpose. A lot of this waste can be turned into good paying full time jobs and money. I believe President Trump’s DOGE Team should put natural gas on their list.
AI is going to be needing so much electricity produced over the next 25 years, it’s incredible.
Natural gas power plants are only 50 to 55% energy efficient. Power plants waste so much of this valuable energy. Something has to be done about Wasting this much of America’s Energy!!
I believe this is a great story tip.
GenZ will give the finger to the climate changer econutzis-
The forgotten environmental costs of data centers | Watch
Don’t mess with their touchscreens and AI stoopids.
The troops in the illustration should be wearing UN blue helmets.
The “big stick” has been around since the 1950s. It’s called The Club of Rome.
I think the climate nut jobs aren’t going to wake up- we’ll have them with until they die off.