COP30 Shakedown On The Table Again

From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT

By Paul Homewood

Is it me, or have things gone quiet at COP30?

From reports coming out of Belem, the COP30 President is working behind the scenes on two main topics:

1) Phasing out fossil fuels.

With many countries, such as India, not even bothering to submit updated NDCs to establish targets beyond 2030, and with many others more or less worthless, as China’s for instance, COP30 is again trying to secure a commitment to phase out fossil fuels.

That, however, is no more likely to succeed than it did last year. While the Brazilians are trying to shame the oil-producing states, the biggest obstacle, as ever, is China and India. They, along with many other developing countries, know they cannot run their economies without fossil fuels, never mind grow them.

COP28 weakly called for a “transition away from fossil fuels”, much to the dismay of those who wanted stronger action. Despite attempts to strengthen the commitment, COP29 simply repeated it.

Don’t expect anything much different this time.

2) Money

Which brings us back to money, which is really what all these COPs boil down to:

https://cfact.us1.list-manage.com/track/click

The Draft Text includes this clause:

You may recall that developing countries demanded $1.3 trillion a year by 2035 in Baku a year ago. Supposedly this was to adapt to climate change and invest in renewables. In practice, it was just a shakedown of guilt-ridden, gullible richer countries.

In the event, they got a promise of $300 billion, which was widely and ungratefully dismissed as “a paltry sum” and “woefully inadequate”!

With the US now out of the Paris Agreement, the UK’s share of that $300 billion, based on GDP, would be around $36 billion. The chances of that appearing, given the state of our national finances is somewhere between Slim and None. And, in Muhammad Ali’s words, Slim has just left town!

According to the BBC, climate finance just struggled over $100 billion in 2022:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/future/article/20241115-five-charts-explaining-a-trillion-dollar-climate-problem

Provisional OECD data suggest this figure has not risen by since. Most of the money is, in any case, either redirected from other aid budgets or is in the from of repayable loans.

This is what OXFAM had to say a year ago:

Responding to the COP29 climate finance agreement, in which rich countries agree to mobilize $300 billion a year to help Global South countries cope with warming temperatures and switch to renewable energy, Oxfam International’s Climate Change Policy Lead, Nafkote Dabi, said:

“The terrible verdict from the Baku climate talks shows that rich countries view the Global South as ultimately expendable, like pawns on a chessboard. The $300 billion so-called ‘deal’ that poorer countries have been bullied into accepting is unserious and dangerous —a soulless triumph for the rich, but a genuine disaster for our planet and communities who are being flooded, starved, and displaced today by climate breakdown. And as for promises of future funding? They’re just as hollow as the deal itself.

“The money on the table is not only a pittance in comparison to what’s really needed –it’s not even real “money”, by and large. Rather, it’s a motley mix of loans and privatized investment –a global Ponzi scheme that the private equity vultures and public relations people will now exploit. The destruction of our planet is avoidable, but not with this shabby and dishonorable deal. The richest polluters need to wise up —and pay up.”

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/cop29-deal-global-ponzi-scheme-oxfam

No doubt a form of words will be found that satisfies nobody. There will be the usual recriminations and the world will carry on as before.

The whole show will be back on the road again next winter in Turkey, where we will be treated to exactly the same circus.

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Rod Evans
November 21, 2025 2:12 am

When any charitable organisation refers to $300billion as a pittance, you know we/they have lost touch with reality. Perhaps OXFAM should look at its core delivery activities and come back when that is in a morally acceptable condition.

strativarius
Reply to  Rod Evans
November 21, 2025 3:34 am

These people have had 30 goes at it and up until Glasgow it was the greatest trade fair on Earth. Everybody wants to host the Olympics, the World Cup and… a COP.

William Howard
Reply to  strativarius
November 21, 2025 7:16 am

time to put an end to this silliness

Reply to  Rod Evans
November 21, 2025 8:23 am

Charitable? Starving the poor on a mass famine scale is the diametric opposite of charity. OXFAM should be defunded and its leaders/employees/promoters imprisoned.

Mr.
Reply to  Rod Evans
November 21, 2025 9:33 am

Look, if they really believed that the climate was doing it tough, they would have started a GoFundMe by now.

That’s the real test about whether the proles g.a.f. about it or not.

November 21, 2025 2:13 am

I wonder if next winter Turkey, as a Muslim country, is going to vote for Christmas.

Thanks. I’ll get my own coat.

Aw, c’mon, this whole Cop thing is now just a joke.

Frankemann
Reply to  Oldseadog
November 21, 2025 3:14 am

a $300 billion joke…

strativarius
November 21, 2025 2:35 am

They really should form an orderly queue. Everybody has a hand out for handouts. If they really do believe that money grows on trees then they should make the leaf the unit of currency.

“Energy bills to RISE in 2026 as Ofgem makes shock price cap announcement”
“Government Borrows More Than Expected in October”
“Reeves ‘Demands Respect’ for ‘Being The Chancellor’ in FT Puff Piece”
”Channel Tunnel Owner Cancels All Future Investments in UK Over Tax Hikes”

“Labour’s North Sea ban is damaging business, says ExxonMobilEnergy giant criticises Ed Miliband’s decision to close Mossmorran chemical plant in Fife”

We’re flat broke in all honesty; living on borrowed money and deindustrialising fast.

The UNhinged live in a fantasy world of their own.

Reply to  strativarius
November 21, 2025 8:28 am

But there’s a problem with using leaves as currency! Inflation would be rampant. Before you know it, you’ll be spending the equivalent of three deciduous forests just to buy a single ship’s peanut. Fortunately there’s a simple solution – simply burn down all the forests!

November 21, 2025 2:57 am

From the article: ““The terrible verdict from the Baku climate talks shows that rich countries view the Global South as ultimately expendable, like pawns on a chessboard. The $300 billion so-called ‘deal’ that poorer countries have been bullied into accepting is unserious and dangerous —a soulless triumph for the rich, but a genuine disaster for our planet and communities who are being flooded, starved, and displaced today by climate breakdown.”

“Expendable”. That’s funny! It must be horrible living in the Climate Alarmist world with all that climate breakdown going on. Happily for me, my climate has not broken down, it is still operating just like it has always done.

Mass Delusion is a terrible thing to watch, and a terrible thing to have to put up with.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 21, 2025 5:54 pm

Mass Delusion is a terrible thing to watch, and a terrible thing to have to put up with.”

Trans women are women!!

Scissor
November 21, 2025 3:05 am

While the Brazilians are trying to shame the oil-producing states, the biggest obstacle, as ever, is China and India.”

Interesting because Brazil ranks 1st for oil production in Latin America and 8th globally.

strativarius
Reply to  Scissor
November 21, 2025 3:41 am

The BBC has been bigging up China’s illusory move to renewables…

But then…

There are rumours in Whitehall that Jonathan Powell will visit China again imminently. Labour can’t get enough…
https://order-order.com/2025/11/20/rumours-jonathan-powell-will-visit-china-shortly/

And

decisions on the Chinese mega-embassy “will be taken through the proper process”, following fresh reports in The Times that Starmer will formally approve the building on 10 December. 
https://order-order.com/2025/11/21/kendall-insists-chinese-mega-embassy-will-go-through-proper-process/

The Chinese have redacted the basement level of the building from the plans.

That hasn’t changed.

sherro01
November 21, 2025 3:41 am

“Next winter in Turkey, where we will be treated to exactly the same circus”.
Maybe not.
My Australia was competing to host COP31 in Adelaide. Turkey won, but with a compromise that the loser, our Federal Australian Minister for Energy, got a consolation prize of a special new position to help run the next COP.
Now this fellow, Chris Bowen, is widely derided here in Australia as an ignorant but cunning incompetent in a net zero mission. We have three more years until the next election to vote him out of public life, so the poor COP people might sustain some damage. Who knows the limits of the harm he intends for Australia and COP? Maybe he is flashing his credentials for a post-politics top UN position. (Wait for the reaction when they discover the brain). Geoff S

Jono1066
November 21, 2025 4:04 am

this is all good news ,
as the pressure mounts to generate deliverables the demands become more trenchant, as that process evolves more people within the group will stop at their own boundary of sense and sensibility and remove themselves from the group or scale back their interest/involvement in the subject.
Even though the more strident group will attract a limited number of new stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood members the net effect of the leavers will be a reduction in group size.
that reduction has a secondary smaller component created due to time, as new groups emerge and as the science stabilizes.

Let them keep pumping. (otherwise we would have nothing to smile about)

strativarius
November 21, 2025 4:59 am

Friday Funny. From Guido Fawkes

An interesting media strategy from No10 as it demands footage of Starmer tripping over at the G20 is taken down. Taken by a regular broadcast cameraman…
Downing Street is upset that the footage went to broadcast and is asking for it to be taken down/not shown again. This is the video in question:

November 21, 2025 6:29 am

Cue the latest Josh cartoon…”Where’s my money?”

mleskovarsocalrrcom
November 21, 2025 7:06 am

30 COPs and a lot of money was promised. What happened to it? I have yet to see any accountability or results. Obama alone gave them $500M US as a parting gesture in his last days as president … what did it buy? Shakedown is an appropriate description.

November 21, 2025 8:35 am

It has always been about taxing the USA.

November 21, 2025 9:39 am

Am i getting this right? Oxfam and funds receiving countries complain about the low figure while the giving countries cannot comply?
Seems like general disgruntlement.
Good!

Edward Katz
November 21, 2025 2:21 pm

If there’s one good thing that comes out of these COP conferences and whatever counterparts they have, it’s the refusal of almost all nations to support the money demands that inevitably emerge from them. This should send a strong signal to the various participants that almost no one considers climate change anything to spend money on and that these requests are futile to begin with. In addition, if the various countries were honest about the whole issue, they’d withdraw from all future such meetings and if they wanted to spend money on various environment and climate threats, they’d do it at home instead of even running to these gatherings where they’ve known for a long time that they’re achieving nothing.

Bob
November 21, 2025 8:40 pm

Not one dollar to international organizations.