At The New York Krazy Klimate Konference, 2025 Edition

From THE MANHATTAN CONTRARIAN

Francis Menton

Two years ago, in November 2023, my friend Roger Caiazza and I attended a conference put on by a local news source called City & State. They called their conference the “Clean Energy New York Summit: The Path to Sustainability.” I called it the Krazy Klimate Konference, and I wrote about it in a post on November 18, 2023 titled “At The New York Krazy Klimate Konference.”

Last year both Roger and I skipped the Konference, and this year Roger again wisely decided to stay home in Syracuse. But I was morbidly curious as to how this crowd of climate grifters and subsidy farmers would react to the rapid derailment of their gravy train during the first ten months of President Trump’s second term. And for me, the venue was only about a 10 minute subway ride away, at the southern tip of Manhattan. So I rounded up my daughter Jane (who had to trek in from Queens) to accompany me, and off we went.

This year they slightly re-titled the Konference to “Energy Infrastructure Summit: New York’s Path to Sustainability.” On the surface, it was remarkably similar to the program of two years ago, and to hear the words of the speakers, it was as if nothing was wrong. But with a little reading between the lines, the changes were big.

If you went to this Konference to learn anything about the subject matter at hand, you would have been sorely disappointed. All the presentations were essentially fluff, completely avoiding discussion of any serious issues. However, there was much to be learned from what was not said.

To start with, you might have noticed that the line-up of participants had greatly shifted. Two years ago, the main panelists and speakers fell into two categories: (1) promoters of expensive “green energy” projects, like solar arrays, wind farms, and transmission lines, talking about their great construction plans, and (2) high ranking political actors, including multiple members of both the State Legislature and City Council, there to take credit for bringing to bear the political will to make this all happen.

Emblematic of the speakers from two years ago were three whom I highlighted in my November 2023 post: Doreen Harris, the Co-Chair of New York’s “Climate Action Council,” Gregory Lampman, Director of Off-Shore Wind at the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority, and Luke Falk, COO of Clean Path New York, a company then developing an $11 billion new transmission line to bring wind and solar power from upstate into New York City.

Here is a reprise of my comments on Mr. Falk’s contribution to the 2023 Konference:

[A]n afternoon panel featur[ed] a presentation from a guy named Luke Falk, identified as COO of something called Clean Path NY, which appears to be developing transmission lines to shuttle wind and solar generated power around the state. Falk started talking about how great it would be when everybody converted their homes to electric heat, because that would provide a use for the vast amounts of wind and solar electricity that would soon be forthcoming. At that point I lost it and started laughing uncontrollably. After his panel, Falk came up to me and accused me of being rude. I responded that I thought the whole point of a comedy routine was to get audience members to laugh.

The reason that I burst out laughing during Mr. Falk’s 2023 presentation was that it was obvious to anyone with any math skills that his power line could not possibly be economic. The obvious reason was that intermittent wind and solar power could not fill the line full time, or even half time, and therefore the line would cost a multiple per unit of electricity delivered to transmit power compared to the cost of a line to transmit full-time generation. To the surprise of no one with critical thinking skills, the Clean Path transmission line project then got canceled in late 2024 precisely because it was found to be uneconomic. For the full story, see Utility Dive from December 3, 2024.

Needless to say, Mr. Falk did not show up to this year’s Konference.

And neither did Mr. Lampman. At the time of the 2023 Konference, Mr. Lampman’s (and NYSERDA’s) entire off-shore wind program, previously touted as the linchpin of the State’s renewable energy plans, had just been canceled, with no idea of any path forward. As I reported in my November 2023 post, Lampman had managed to give his whole presentation at the 2023 Konference without mentioning that his entire program had just been canceled; and when gently asked by the moderator to address the subject, Lampman said that he had discussed it with his then 6 year old son, who had said “Dad, you got this.”

Since the 2023 Konference, Lampman and his agency then put the off-shore wind program out for a re-bid in 2024, with the re-bids coming in about 50 – 70% higher than the originally-accepted bids. NYSERDA bit the bullet and accepted the new bids in late 2024 — only then to have President Trump sweep back into office in January 2025 and promptly announce that the federal government would not be issuing any permits for these developments. Since then, there have been rumors that the Trump administration would agree to grant a permit to one of the five off-shore wind projects if Governor Hochul would grant a permit to build a pipeline across New York Bay to transmit natural gas from Pennsylvania to Long Island and, potentially, to New England. The natural gas pipeline permit got issued last week, so maybe one of the off-shore wind projects may proceed. The rest are deader than dead. You can see why Lampman might want to stay away from anywhere where he might get asked a question.

Also staying away this year was Doreen Harris of the Climate Action Council. Her speech two years ago had been filled with cliches of false optimism (“We’re the leader. . . . We have a bias toward action. . . . long term sustainability . . . something we can be proud of”). I guess that stuff would be way too embarrassing to utter in public today.

Instead, we got as kick-off speaker a guy named Rory Christian, Chair of the Public Service Commission. Not that Christian said anything substantive, but he still proved to be a significant change of pace. While Harris’s full time job is to be a cheerleader for the energy transition, Christian, in addition to having some energy transition responsibilities, also is responsible to keep the electricity system “affordable,” “reliable,” and “safe.” You might think he would address how these various responsibilities are in irreconcilable conflict, but that would be way too much to expect. Of course his speech was the usual pile of cliches. Some excerpts: “Our expectations as to energy are evolving. . . . Uncertainty in the energy system is unacceptable. . . . We must assure safe and reliable service at just and reasonable rates. . . . We have the drive and focus to do the energy transition. . . . Federal uncertainties are having a chilling effect. . . .” Mention of “safety” and “reliability” are a big change from net zero cheerleading.

Unlike the previous conference where no audience questions were allowed, this time they had an app where you could submit questions in writing for the moderator to pose (or not). Here are two that I wrote for Mr. Christian: (1) Now that the Governor and Attorney General have publicly stated that the state’s energy transition under the CLCPA is “infeasible,” when is the PSC going to hold a hearing under Section 66-P(4) of the Public Service Law to postpone all the deadlines? and (2) Given that the CLCPA energy transition has been recognized as “infeasible,” how can the PSC give any consideration to the pending rate increase request from Con Edison that includes big spending for projects that do not enhance safety and reliability but only seek to advance the concededly “infeasible” emission-reduction mandates? (The State’s letter referred to is linked at my November 15 post here.)

It will not surprise you to learn that at the conclusion of his remarks, Mr. Christian promptly walked out of the Konference, taking no questions.

From the world of people running companies hoping to get big government money to build renewable energy projects, almost no one showed up to speak at this Konference. There were no wind or solar or transmission project developers that I spotted. The only representative of this category who uttered a word was a guy named Nick Lombardi, identified as a Senior VP of Project Development at something called NineDot, which is a grid-scale battery developer. But he was a panel moderator, rather than a speaker. We never got to learn of his great plans for battery storage.

Also missing were almost all of the elected politicians who showed up last time to preen and strut. One obscure City Council member showed up.

What we got instead were a bunch of dreamers and schemers with no attachment to the real world: e.g., Alexis Abramson, Dean of the Columbia Climate School (did you know they had that?) talking about how they are doing “teaching, research, and impact”; a representative of the New York DOT talking about how they were going to build more “resilient” highways (“integrating shade structures into the right of way” — I’m not making this up); multiple representatives of state agencies talking about “workforce development” to lure young people into “green energy” jobs (I would strongly advise any young person to stay away from this industry, which will disappear as soon as the subsidies dry up); a guy promoting “green and healthy schools” by retrofitting their energy systems (sounds to me like the lowest possible priority for the school system); and so forth.

And of course nearly every speaker worked into his or her presentation a few lines about the need to come up with “new funding streams” or some such formula, to make it all happen.

So even though there was no useful information and nothing to be learned about the energy system or how it will “transition,” the Konference was still a fascinating psychological study. There is a seemingly infinite supply of people living off “climate” grants and ready to blather on in cliches as if nothing has changed, when in fact their whole world has gone away. They just haven’t admitted it yet, even to themselves.

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Michael Flynn
November 21, 2025 11:21 pm

Uncertainty in the energy system is unacceptable. 

And failure is not an option, so “somebody has to do something”.

[snigger]

John Hultquist
November 22, 2025 12:00 am

You and daughter Jane from Queens should get awards for your sacrifice but all you get is thanks.

I have a wood stove with a glass front. I loaded the box 20 minutes ago and let it blaze. I have now turned the air supply to almost off. The flames emanating directly from the wood ceased immediately. Gases in the top half of the box continued to dance around. This produced a fantastic sequence of haphazardly orange glowing streamers until the Oxygen was exhausted. There is still heat but no dancing – and I’m off to bed. 

Kevin Kilty
Reply to  John Hultquist
November 22, 2025 7:37 am

Thanks and the esteem of others…

Ron Long
November 22, 2025 1:59 am

Wow! Francis Menton, and daughter Jane are fighting the good fight against the Nut Zero fanatics and schemers. However, as much as I really admire his ability to ask the big questions, if he had walked into my Thesis Defense I would have almost panicked. But you know what…..if you can’t answer the big questions, you can go home.

November 22, 2025 3:58 am

Good report. Very interesting.

The Climate Alarmists have lost the momentum. Trump has turned their world upside down.

Thank God for that!

Jeff Alberts
November 22, 2025 6:40 am

Doreen Harris of the Climate Action Council”

The name of the organization is oddly appropriate, the acronym for which sounds like a cat coughing up a hairball.

Randle Dewees
November 22, 2025 6:42 am

they were going to build more “resilient” highways (“integrating shade structures into the right of way” — I’m not making this up)

I can’t think what this is for – shaded homeless camps?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Randle Dewees
November 22, 2025 7:08 am

shaded septic pits

Fixed.

George Thompson
Reply to  Randle Dewees
November 22, 2025 4:04 pm

Just more things to run into, I reckon.

November 22, 2025 6:56 am

… and thus confirms the(ir) world has ended, with a whimper (not a bang)
How the local news reported it:

Democrats Beat a Climate Retreat: Govs. Shapiro & Hochul buck the green lobby to keep the lights on.

As regards New York State / NYC & LI:

… [Governor] Hochul has approved a pipeline to carry natural gas fracked in Pennsylvania to New York City and Long Island. Her predecessor, [Gov.] Andrew Cuomo, [had] blocked the pipeline. Now the state desperately needs more natural gas to keep the lights and heat on.

Source:

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/democrats-climate-energy-kathy-hochul-josh-shapiro-pipeline-greenhouse-gas-d888a8d8

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Whetten Robert L
November 22, 2025 7:51 am

Exactly! Did anyone at the konference once mention pipeline to NYC or natural gas? Will Yoko Ono throw herself in the pipeline construction ditch to stop the effort? These are hard questions for the konference attendees.

Kevin Kilty
November 22, 2025 7:34 am

While wind and solar projects might be deader than dead in many places, out here in the wild, wild west we have something akin to a gold rush in progress. Many a hopeful prospector with tincup in hand (extra large tincup for subsidies) is pushing hard to get permits in place that would allow expenditure of at least 5% of their total project estimates to be made by next July 6. This is the benchmark for getting the approval for investment and production tax subsidies.

I have not verified this factoid, but have been told that there are permit applications in progress for 4,000 wind turbines in the eastern half of Wyoming. If true, and if those turbines have the expected nameplate rating of 3MW to 6MW each, then Wyoming will have somewhere between one-half and two-thirds of the wind capacity of Texas. It will be a visual and environmental disaster if it comes to pass.

Typical of the blather in the applications is this gem

“…current market conditions show ever-increasing energy demands and needs from key Wyoming consumers, meaning the Project is key to generating much needed energy now to meet the needs of Wyoming’s economic growth, today and into the future.”

As I stated in my limited appearance testimony this is pure public relations balderdash and misses the truth of the matter by a wide margin. Intermittent energy sources like wind and solar are not what any market needs. What is key to meeting market demands, a “market solution” in other words, is a generating source that will deliver energy in amounts and on a schedule which meets energy demands minute by minute. 

I provided an example of this.

On October 21, 2025 at 1 pm in the PacifiCorp Balancing Area (PACE) EIA data showed that total demand, including energy exported to neighboring balancing areas, was 8,800MW which was covered by a combination of Wind, Solar, Coal and Natural gas. Ten hours later at 11 pm, the sun had set, there was no solar generation at all, and wind had diminished to a mere 400MW. Yet, demand was still 6,600MW, and what was carrying the grid was coal-fired power which ramped up from the 2,300 MW it was delivering at 1 pm to 4,500MW at 11 pm. This should illustrate why dispatchable generation carries the grid.

Projects may be deader than dead in places, but there is still a hope on the part of developers that some gold remains in them thar’ hills.

Rick C
Reply to  Kevin Kilty
November 22, 2025 8:18 am

Oh, I’m sure that there are many big AI companies looking to build multi-billion dollar data centers where there is a huge amount of wind/solar energy available for an average of 6 to 8 hours a day. With 4,000 new giant turbines Wyoming is bound to become a global hot spot for AI development.

iflyjetzzz
November 22, 2025 7:40 am

Thank you for the report. I’m glad to hear that, even in New York, the reality of free gubmint money drying up for this nonsense is starting to take hold. I would consider the ‘tell; to be that there was a shortage of Klimate Kon men looking to soak up taxpayer dollars.

God bless President Trump and Secretaries Zeldin and Wright.

Now that federal money’s dried up, what’s the next grift for the Klimate hucksters? I’m sure some of them are busy dreaming up the next big scam to soak up taxpayer dollars.

Joe Crawford
Reply to  iflyjetzzz
November 22, 2025 9:59 am

‘…what’s the next grift for the Klimate hucksters?’ Well,so far they have tried Sustainability, but no one has yet figured out how to scam money out of it :<)

iflyjetzzz
Reply to  Joe Crawford
November 23, 2025 5:06 am

Yeah, the whole CO2 scam was initially targeted at fossil fuel producers – the gov liked taxing fuels and the kon men piled into carbon credits. In fact, algore’s GIM (generational investment management) held a huge stake in the CCX (Chicago Climate Exchange) which traded carbon credits … they closed up shop in 2010. After that the Klimate Kon men moved on to government subsidies.

I suspect they’ll transmogrify into medical, AI, or some other ‘crisis’ of the day.

ResourceGuy
November 22, 2025 7:46 am

The Party’s “old man in the cave” excuse machine has already come up with the solution. It is to blame AI for all the high electricity prices and the orange man for inflation in general. That conveniently serves dual purposes of blame avoidance and attack ad simplicity for the masses. Couple those two strategies with NYC campaign success with free stuff to buy votes and you have a clear path through the thicket of reality and facts. This also marks the transition from high-priced Bud Light consultants with inefficient biased survey groups for the client and on to modern machine learning under the big tent Party of advocacy groups.

mleskovarsocalrrcom
November 22, 2025 8:27 am

Why they keep calling it an energy “transition” when all that is happening is replacement and reliability downgrade at a huge cost and economic loss is the real question. And they think people don’t notice this?

Colin Belshaw
Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
November 23, 2025 1:20 am

Incredible, isn’t it – what “transition”?!
In 2024, fossil fuels provided for 86.7% of global energy use. (Statistical Review of World Energy)
Wind and solar provided 3.43%, this after 20 years and expenditure of $TRILLIONS!!
Has ANY of this been . . . NECESSARY?!!

Bob
November 22, 2025 2:22 pm

More good news. Thanks for all the work you do.

observa
November 22, 2025 7:18 pm

I suspect Peter Ridd is really up against the Great Feminisation-
What City Folks Forget About Australia’s Wealth
They’re the ones that believe everything runs on e-motion and they in turn beget the subsidy miners and slush funding.