In this special episode of the Sceptic, Laurie speaks to fearless, peerless climate sceptic Professor Norman Fenton, about his life and times and the professional consequences he has suffered for speaking truth to power about Covid and climate science. Professor Fenton is a mathematician and computer scientist and Emeritus Professor of Risk Information Management at Queen Mary University London.
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It appears to me that the much maligned R F Kennedy was right all along.
I have been really impressed by the careful reasoning of Professor Norman Fenton.
The same government that says one should follow the experts and is clueless about the science determines that any dissenting scientist should not or cannot be listened to. Every political candidate should have to pass an independently assessed basic logic test before being allowed to put their name up for election.
What is 21st century science?
A political, neo-religious narrative. By their standards one can only describe Norman Fenton as an heretic.
Even if you expect the Spanish climate inquisition, it’s savagery can still surpise.
I look forward to climate scientists producing dance videos. Like medical “professionals” with nothing to do did.
I see where Environmental Groups Sue Over D.O.E. Report Downplaying Climate Change.
Here is the address to the announcement.
https://dnyuz.com/2025/08/15/environmental-groups-sue-over-d-o-e-report-downplaying-climate-change/
I think this is a similar story:
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-administration-climate-report-lawsuit/
So much for Starmer’s position, where he interrupted Trump, to tell him that we (the UK) have a great record for Freedom of Speech!!
Maybe so, as Norman rightly points out, if you are a Cultural Marxist, especially working in academia where these academics are proliferate. It’s the only way people can progress their career!
In the UK, GB news has Headliners telling right-wing comedy that attacks Starmer every weeknight.
No-one tries to silence them.
Colbert was in the same position in the USA.
Solzhenitsyn in the USSR.
The UK is doing fine on freedom of speech. We’re a lot better off than China, Russia or the USA.
Yep, you bet…I have a bridge for you..
Colbert, who’s show has been losing money for years, was cancelled because he criticized Trump?
What about the hundreds of other not so funny “comedians” who s[emd all their time insulting Trump and conservatives and who haven’t been cancelled?
Just keep believing what the party tells you to believe.
You believe that?
You live in a country where a 15 year old gets arrested for buying a hamburger after 5pm. !!!
North Korea ??
No – a society that (sometimes) evidences consequences for bad behaviour…
“There’s a local ban, children can’t enter the premises after 5pm without and adult because of ongoing abuse from minors to the workers. She was a repeat offender so was escorted after refusing to leave.”
The Headliners show was cancelled several weeks ago.
That is a very good riposte.
However, the fact that its departure was not noticed, may well explain why it went. Unlike the failings of the USA.
Nobody I know watched Colbert, therefore his cancellation also went un-noticed.
One constant with those on the left, they actually believe that everybody who matters, agrees with them.
Jane Connolly (31 months’ imprisonment for an alledgedly racist tweet) wishes to disagree.
Try publicly criticising Islam or Muslims in the UK today. You wouldn’t dare.
But that’s different, those laws are only applied to people Mr Courtney doesn’t like. Therefore, they don’t count.
Spoken like as true Guardian reading Marxist
His comments re those resisting the preferred climate change narrative being cancelled and blocked is spot on.
One of the most disgraceful examples was the BBC cancelling Dr. David Bellamy a true scientist because he did not agree with their position on ‘settled science’ Both he and David Attenborough worked for the BBC on natural history programs back in the 1990s. Attenborough a journalist by profession saw what happened to those who dared to go against the preferred man made climate alarmism the BBC were peddling, so he fell into line and became the new Queen Mum of broadcasting, with gongs on top of gongs laid at his ever aging feet.
Bellamy meanwhile was all but forgotten once he received his BBC cancellation orders. He died a broken man, despite being one of the most popular presenters prior to his allegiance to the purity of science stance rather than adopt the dogma of BBC propaganda.
Yes, Bellamy was a great presenter and a real environmentalist. BBC execs should be hanging their heads in shame over his treatment.
The BBC is clearly riddled with Marxists and is a disgrace
The World described in 1984 is here now and it’s going to get worse with the use of AI to crush ‘misinformation’ in favour New Speak. Far more frightening than a gently warming world.
Whoops: …in favour of New Speak…..
Many climate scientists have a family and a mortgage, if one speaks out they make an example of them, and the others go quiet.
True. However, it’s not just skeptical climate scientists, but a vast number of individuals across the entirety of our institutions who have knuckled under to the Left. What’s ironic here is that many of those who keep their heads down today to avoid risking their livelihoods would most likely be willing to criticize every German citizen for not having taken a bullet to oppose National Socialism. The difference, of course, is that ‘we’ won WWII, meaning we had better prevail, not just against climate alarmism, but against the entirety of socialist belief.
The denier has repeated long debunked lies about researchers and their research. He then cries and whines about how unfair the world is because there are consequences to his lying. Old white men hate personal responsibility
You really should leave the mercury out of your morning beverage. Old white men? Really?
Climate Liar troll says what?
Eric Flesch clearly has no content to his character.
Not just an idiot, but a racist idiot. And proud of it.
He’s probably an old white man, and hates himself.
The problem is the consequence for him telling the truth, backed by facts..
And there’s that petty and childish “denier” term again.
Tell us what we “deny” that you can back with actual science.
Cry harder
Your side is losing. Get used to it.
Wow.. thus proving you have absolutely ZERO to back up any of your petty yabberings. !
Using regurgitated parrot-like words you have zero clue of the meaning of.
You still 😢 crying. Another whiney old white guy
Stuck on bitter, and circling the drain.
I wonder if it is still possible for Eric to say something intelligent.
Racist, and bitter. It must suck being you.
Please specify even one lie that he told, and where it is debunked.
Obama inserted Climate Change in to the mission of every agency when he came into office. Now Trump is removing Climate Change from their mission statements so they can concentrate on what they’re good at, reducing their costs, and increasing their efficiency. The only complainers are those that jumped on the Climate Change mission bandwagon and the politicians that don’t have a clue what these agencies are supposed to do. More winning.
“Now Trump is removing Climate Change from their mission statements so they can concentrate on what they’re good at, reducing their costs, and increasing their efficiency.”
When has any government agency been good at those things?
Notice: Despite being entirely wrong about the new vaccines, as history has conclusively shown, he’s still permitted to talk to whomever he wants to.
This is real freedom of speech. The loonies are not silenced. Just rebutted by observations.
If the vaccines were dangerous, and we had used them en masse, then everyone would know about it.
And we did use them en masse.
In the US we have a vaccine insurance program for those hurt by vaccines-nothing man made is perfectly safe and smart people know that. Yes, bad effects are relatively rare, but that said, bad outcomes do happen. Then we come to the MRNA stuff-big debate there-do YOU trust big Pharma? If so, good luck to you… you’re going to need it.
“If the vaccines were dangerous, and we had used them en masse, then everyone would know about it.”
How is it possible for anyone to have just heard Norman Fenton describe the vile and successful censorship of his work and his voice, and go on to suggest “everyone would know about it“?
The reason everyone doesn’t know about the deadliness of mRNA injections is because information is suppressed and people are censored.
The information is out there, but not reported. The people who do manage to publish on the dangers, must do so in off-mainline journals.
https://doi.org/10.56098/fdrasy50
https://doi.org/10.56098/w66wjg87
https://doi.org/10.3390/genes13050719
https://doi.org/10.7759/cureus.75652
And those articles are a mere sampling of the avalanche of information showing the deadliness of the technology of injected mRNA.
Not sure what you’re complaining about and you are misrepresenting one of your references. It is the one at Cureus, which describes itself as an online medical journal by Springer Nature and appears credible. https://www.cureus.com/articles/313843-behavioral-and-health-outcomes-of-mrna-covid-19-vaccination-a-case-control-study-in-japanese-small-and-medium-sized-enterprises#!/
It says in the introduction: “Vaccination campaigns have played a pivotal role in controlling the spread of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) and reducing the severity of COVID-19 [1,2]. Messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines developed by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna have demonstrated high efficacy in preventing symptomatic infection, hospitalization, and death.”
I’ll take prevention of symptomatic infection, hospitalization, and death as a success, and the 5 times I took the vaccine achieved that outcome. I was confirmed to have had the virus twice by testing, and it only had minor symptoms. The vaccines never aimed to prevent infection but to take the load off of medical institutions by reducing hospitalizations. Great job by the drug companies!
‘The vaccines never aimed to prevent infection but to take the load off of medical institutions by reducing hospitalizations. Great job by the drug companies!’
Really? I’ll just assume you forgot to include a ‘/sarc’ tag.
Something didn’t add up in this puffball of an interview, so I took a minute to research Norman Fenton online. It appears he has been speaking in support of a former football hooligan named Tommy Robinson (real name: Stephen Yaxley-Lennon) who is a white supremacist agitator presently facing charges for beating and seriously injuring a man outside a train station in London. Here is Fenton calling for Robinson’s release from prison on previous charges: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtra-es7RoE
So I don’t quite buy his victim story, and although being cancelled for speaking against the mainstream climate narrative is certainly a problem, I question if that is really what happened here.
For the record, I mostly agree with Alan Watts’ take on the climate change issue and read his informative posts every week. Having said that, I also don’t buy into the far-right narrative promoted by some here, and apparently by Norman Fenton.
You clearly know nothing whatever about Tommy Robinson. You’re almost certainly too thick to learn. I don’t know you but I suspect you are a coward and a weakling who would be incapable of defending yourself in a real fight.
PS: The incident at St Pancras was recorded from beginning to end on CCTV, yet oddly only the final few seconds were released, showing TR’s assailant out cold. The Police know who the instigator was as TR (who actually called them immediately after) has been bailed and not been remanded in custody, as would be standard after a serious assault.
Wow. Nice to meet you, too. “I don’t know you but I suspect you are a coward and a weakling who would be incapable of defending yourself in a real fight…” You must be fun at parties.
While you’re at it, you can add race traitor to your imagined description of me. Yes, I am a white male and married to an Asian woman. I think that’s the in-vogue term used by people of your political persuasion?
Which is actually very sad, because Anthony Watts is a first-rate scientist as far as I am concerned, and has single-handedly changed the discussion on climate change with very high-quality commentary backed up by facts. The far-right trolls that seem to taking over in the discussions really take away from this important work.
Calling Tommy Robinson far-right and a white supremacist is not controversial. Here’s TRT (Turkish media) on his case: https://trt.global/world/article/18192307
“Who is Tommy Robinson, a convicted criminal stoking far-right riots in UK?”
Have a nice day.
Turkish Islamist trash media? Really? TR must be doing something right if he is hated both by Islamists and the British Establishment.
I notice you have not even attempted to rebut my point about the incident at St Pancras. Your attempt to play the Race Card is contemptible.
I’m Muslim, thanks. Yes, some of us speak native English and are white. TRT is mainstream Turkish media and it’s a stretch to describe it as Islamist. There are many similar articles about Robinson in media of various countries.
The BBC reported that Robinson was arrested and released on police bail after he fled the country but apparently decided it was better to come back, so to that extent you appear correct. He is a white supremacist and since you are promoting his viewpoint with enthusiasm it doesn’t seem a stretch to imagine you as being that way. You like that game apparently, with your “you are a coward and a weakling” comment about myself.
If I am mistaken, please feel free to correct me and congratulate me on my Asian wife.
TR was on his way to Luton Airport to take a prebooked flight to Tenerife. He did not “flee the country”.
You are a Muslim and you believe the BBC. I don’t need to add anything.
I asked Google’s AI what the Quran says about dealing with trolls. It said:
“Verses like “Do not respond to evil with evil, but repel [evil] with what is better” (Quran 23:96) encourage a positive and constructive approach.
“This principle suggests that responding to trolls with anger or insults is counterproductive and not in line with Islamic teachings.”
…
“The Quran emphasizes the importance of speaking truthfully and avoiding backbiting, slander, and gossip.
“Engaging with trolls can be a slippery slope, leading to unnecessary negativity and potentially violating these principles.”
So in summary, Allah says don’t feed the troll? I see.
The same news about Robinson was widely reported elsewhere. The video shows him pacing beside the motionless body of the man he injured so he knew what he had done. He should have turned himself in to police even if he had a flight booking.
My Muslim faith is one reason I have a high regard for Anthony Watts, as mentioned. My background is science but I am not on his level. Many Muslims regard scientists highly as Muslim scientists laid the foundations for modern mathematics and medicine while Europe was in the dark ages.
I’ll take your silence on my Asian wife as tacit approval and congratulations. Thanks!
The Quran emphasizes the importance of speaking truthfully and avoiding backbiting, slander, and gossip.
Taqqiya and Kitman. Only Islam has these.
AI summary: “In Islam, “kitman” refers to the practice of concealing or withholding information. It’s not inherently forbidden or permissible; its permissibility depends on the context and intent. Kitman is often associated with situations where revealing information could lead to harm, conflict, or hinder reconciliation. It’s also used in contexts of self-preservation or strategic deception, particularly when facing persecution.”
Sure, I’m good with that. I share information relevant to the conversation, nothing more. My handle is not my real name, and my IP address is hidden by a VPN. I know, I know, that makes me a “coward and a weakling” in your words. I hope it shows I am not as “thick” as you presume.
Why would I place myself, my wife and family in the crosshairs of the brownshirt thugs who follow Robinson? England gave the world the gift of racist skinheads last century, and not much has changed. I left the place years ago.
Anyone who disagrees with me is a brownshirt thug.
The Koran also says that it’s OK to lie to infidels.
Spoken like a true troll.
In other words, you are one of those guys who wants to impose sharia law on the world and declare that anyone who disagrees is anti-muslim.
BTW, how many of your sisters did you marry?
Far left strategy is to label anyone who does not agree with them a fascist or far right racist
Is that so? I’m center-right myself on most issues. But if the shoe fits, wear it, and we have some enthusiastic supporters of Robinson’s far-right racism between Norman Fenton and “Graemethecat” on this board who likes to tell me I’m thick, a weakling and a coward although I have never had the pleasure of meeting him/her/it. (I added the “it” in case it’s an AI).
How about your good self? I take it you are aligned if you have come to tell me I am “far-left.” For the ones here, I don’t just call them far-right racists but far-right racist trolls. I didn’t realize how they have taken over the climate issue but you live and learn or you don’t live long (as Lazarus Long, Heinlein’s immortal character in his “future history” SF books, put it).
Tommy Robinson had the courage to point out the unpleasant truth that essentially ALL the rape and sexual exploitation of little English girls was being perpetrated by Pakistani Muslims, with the connivance of the Labour politicians, the Judiciary and the Police. That’s why you hate him.
Robinson was a football hooligan and rabble-rouser from reports, and just found another group to beat on. I met people like him before I left England and they were pretty disgusting.
However, the issue you raised is a serious one and although I was not in England at the time I have read about it. Your characterization of the grooming gangs matter matches this report from your hated BBC in 2015, and I do not dispute the facts. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28934963
Somehow it reminds me of the Catholic church’s scandals with pedophile priests. I concede that these issues are so serious and tend to be swept under the rug, that it can take someone like Robinson to force action. It is not for me to know the ways that Allah works.
How dare anyone publicly disagree with you.
A muslim complaining about pedophile priests. That’s rich.
How old was Mo’s last wife? 6?
It is so. You may consider yourself center right, but by the standards of the left, socialists are too conservative.
Anyone who doesn’t believe that socialism is the answer to every problem, that government is always right, and we need to keep the borders wide open, is just a far-right nut case and must be ignored, if not jailed.