By Kenneth Richard on 18. July 2025
There has been a “marked cooling trend” across the North Atlantic in recent decades (Ryu and Kang, 2025).
This includes ocean heat content decline (OHC) since the 2000s, and cooling sea surface temperatures (SST) since the mid-1990s.
Image Source: Ryu and Kang, 2025
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New Study: The North Atlantic Has Not Been Cooperating with the Global Warming Narrative
Let’s be honest… what has? Nothing, nada, zilch.
No amount of new studies debunking the received narrative are making any difference scientifically or in the [political] narrative. I wish I had an answer to that.
That’s not quite true.
I mean, you have to remember that they predicted literally every possible eventuality: heating, cooling, less rain, more rain, less snow, more snow, etc., etc., etc.
I thought they did projections?
Projections are predictions when they like them and projections when others don’t like them. (So they are usually both).
Does that mean it’s worse than we thought?
Always..
So, they are right! We ARE going to have more weather! I was worried about that. I’ve always loved the different seasons (which are not weather but bring different weather).
“No amount of new studies debunking the received narrative are making any difference scientifically or in the [political] narrative. I wish I had an answer to that.”
I think the ultimate answer lies in exposing all the contradictions that are implicit in the narrative, strat, including the scientific and political contradictions, of course, but also all the other kinds as well, such as the economic ones, the educational ones and the cultural ones, for examples, although I imagine there must be many more besides.
It’s a tough challenge alright, but I don’t think it’s an insuperable one if we stay collectively focused on comparing the narrative with observable reality as the scientific method itself enjoins us to do.
If anything tips the balance it will be deindustrialisation.
The CCP is not deindustrialising. It is the CCP that will tip the balance, if they are not actively prevented. To stop them we have to reindustrialise, and fast.
You are right, CC is a political problem that is resistant to debunking. I suggest we supply a new frightening story: glaciation.
we know it happened, will happen again and there is nothing to stop it. Not even CO2.
Yes, that’s one of the known effects of Climageddon. It produces an unusual lack of evidence of its own existence.
If there was only a normal lack of evidence, you’d have a good point there.
The North Atlantic has fully cooperated with the real global warming driver, the sun.
The North Atlantic OHC responded with a warming pause to the long period of sunspot activity below 95 SN before and after solar cycle #24 that lead to a pause in September Arctic ice melting, which has temporarily ended with this solar cycle’s warming influence. The N. Atl. SST should subside again as SC25 activity declines into the next solar minimum.
“New Study: The North Atlantic Has Not Been Cooperating with the Global Warming Narrative”
You misspelled
“New Study examines the link between heatwaves in South Korea and decadal shifts in North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) variability.”
You don’t need new studies to know that the North Atlantic has been cooling over the last quarter century.
You don’t need new studies to know that the North Atlantic has been cooling over the last quarter century.
The EU says..
The north Atlantic Ocean recorded exceptionally warm sea surface temperatures, with several extreme marine heatwaves.
https://climate.copernicus.eu/record-breaking-north-atlantic-ocean-temperatures-contribute-extreme-marine-heatwaves
You can’t both be right.
That’s for one month in an exceptionally hot year. It’s entirely possible for there to both be an overal negative trend and one hot year.
The paper only goes up to 2022, and us only talking about cooling from the early 2010.
Have they contacted the Met Office to check for needed adjustments and advice on calibration for their instruments? I am sure that the Met models can correct for the apparent deviation from orthodoxy. Perhaps they can invent some intermediary reference stations using the 8.5 sensitivity models to get the authors back on track.
I would suggest NASA, but their NY office is hard to reach these days.
Put “Fredi” (Otto) on the case…
The NY office needs to be relocated to the North Slope or closed entirely.
I understand M. Mann is available and eager to apply his special sauce.
And then there is this ….
https://phys.org/news/2025-06-strange-atlantic-cold-ocean-slowdown.html
Did I call it or what?
No doubt:
This is what the “Science” predicts
and
“It’s worse than we thought”
/s
They just need to torture the data a bit. Problem solved!
They could ask Naomi Oreskes to take a look at it.
Hmmmm . . . north Atlantic cooling off while that well-known “climate scientist” and secretary-general of the UN, António Guterres, declares the Atlantic ocean waters off the coast of Florida are “boiling”.
What’s up with that???
And here?
So the heat in the oceans is disappearing?
Clearly, it must be leaving the seas and entering the atmosphere.
This is more proof of Global Warming, obviously.
It’s Heidi Heat coming back to haunt us!
I thought all this science was settled.
Let’s compare the area under curve for sun spot cycles and also consider for the first time the effects multi solar cycles and lags in ocean heat content.
Camp Century, was built by the Americans in 1959 I think, during the Cold War, on the Greenland ice sheet. It was on the surface, now 66 years later, it’s under 100 meters of ice.
Please explain this IPCC, WEF, UN. I can wait.
After a couple of minutes online research:
It was a series of tunnels under the ice. They didn’t realise ice sheets moved. It was abandoned in 1966.
That’s how glaciers work. Snow falls on the top, and compressed ice is pushed out from the bottom. The result is that everything sinks. Nothing unusual and not evidence of anything.
Very nice.
“The North Atlantic Has Not Been Cooperating with the Global Warming Narrative”
Better to examine the science than comment on hearsay. Rising CO2 forcing according to the global circulation models should be driving an increase in positive North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) conditions. Positive NAO episodes and regimes drive a colder North Atlantic, as during the 2013-2015 cold blob, and negative NAO drives a warmer North Atlantic, as during 1995-1999 and 2005-2012. The data series stops just short of the potent warming of the North Atlantic which developed during the strong negative NAO of 2023, and which is now fast turning into a cold blob in 2025.