From THE DAILY SCEPTIC
Sensational new discoveries arising from long-forgotten early aerial photographs indicate that ice has remained stable and even grown slightly since the 1930s over a 2,000 km stretch of East Antarctica. In a recent paper published in Nature Communications, researchers from the University of Copenhagen came to their conclusions by tracking glacial movement in an area with as much ice as the Greenland ice sheet. The findings are unlikely to feature in narrative-driven mainstream media. The silence will probably replicate the response to another recent paper that found the ice shelves surrounding Antarctica grew in overall size from 2009-2019.
The Copenhagen scientists examined hundreds of old aerial photographs taken for mapping work in 1937. The images were supplemented with a number of photographs taken in the 1950s and 1974 of the same area and a 3D computer reconstruction was produced. This allowed the researchers to examine the evolution of glaciers over a significant time period. In order to determine if recent trends exceed the scale of natural variability, long-term observations are said to be vital.
“Compared to modern data, the ice flow speeds are unchanged. While some glaciers have thinned over shorter intermediate periods of 10-20 years, they have remained stable or grown slightly in the long term, indicating a system in balance,” it was noted.
Actual long-term scientific observations will always beat media-friendly computer-modelled pseudoscientific opinions and alarm drummed up by short-term outliers. The authors note that using data from historical sources such as early photographs provides extensive coverage across large areas with detailed temporal and three-dimensional information. Geological evidence covers longer time scales with temporal uncertainties of thousands of years, while estimates from ice cores are generally very local and spatially confined. In Antarctica, it is pointed out, the scarcity of historical climate data makes climate reanalysis estimates before 1970 “largely uncertain”, while “observed trends cannot clearly be distinguished from natural variability”. Not that this stops mainstream activists such as Clive Cookson at the Financial Times who reacted to a recent two-year downward spike in Antarctica sea ice with the suggestion that the area faced a “catastrophic cascade of extreme environmental events… that will affect the climate around the world”.
Of course a “system in balance” is the last thing a Net Zero-obsessed mainstream wants to hear about. The Antarctica Circumpolar Current is the strongest flow of water on the planet and on March 4th the BBC brought news that it was “at risk of failing”. New research is said to suggest that the current will be 20% slower within 25 years “as the world warms, with far reaching consequences for life on Earth”.
Fresh ice melt water is said to cause major changes in the density structure of the ocean, leading to a projected slowdown of the current. Inexplicably, the BBC report failed to note that the prediction was generated by a computer model which had been loaded with a ‘pathway’ that assumed global temperatures would rise up to 4°C within less than 80 years. The clickbait-searching scientists behind the findings observed the recent rapidly declining sea ice in Antarctica, but failed to report a more recent recovery. At the end of 2024, the extent of sea ice was roughly the same as the 1981 to 2010 average. According to the US-based National Snow and Ice Data Centre, “this provides a sharp illustration of the high variability of Antarctica sea ice extent”. And recent examination of earlier photographic evidence provides more insights, with early Nimbus weather satellite images revealing that the 2023 decline was similar to that seen in 1966.
Regular readers of the Daily Sceptic will of course be aware that Antarctica is a difficult place to whip up climate panic, although it must be conceded that mainstream science and media have spared little effort in attempting to do so. Over the last seven decades there has been little or no warming over large areas of the continent. What warming there has been, on the west side, is directly on top of a large number of volcanoes. A recent paper from Singh and Polvani found that Antarctica sea ice “has modestly expanded, a finding that seems to confirm the work on the ice shelf increases between 2009-2019. Warming has been “nearly non-existent” over 70 years, state Singh and Polvani. According to NASA figures, the ice loss is 0.0005% a year. As an example of how humans cause the climate to warm by burning hydrocarbons and eating meat, Antarctica leaves a lot to be desired.
Chris Morrison is the Daily Sceptic’s Environment Editor.
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From the paper – “Our results show that, by 2050, the strength of the ACC declines by ∼20% for a high-emissions scenario.“
Is that the utterly discounted and ridiculous 8.5 scenario, by any chance? You know, the one that’s pretty much impossible?
And even with emissions continuing as usual, with effectively no reductions, observations still track the lowest level scenarios. Oooops!
Ah well. They tried…
From the paper (linked to by “Redge” below) :
It was indeed the “new / CMIP6” SSP5-8.5 scenario (as opposed to the “old / CMIP5” RCP 8.5 one).
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IPCC AR6, WG-I assessment report (released May 2022), section 1.6.1.4, “The likelihood of reference scenarios, scenario uncertainty and storylines”, on page 239 :
Note that the (old) RCP 8.5 scenario is neatly bracketed by the (new) SSP3-7.0 and SSP5-8.5 ones. This means that if SSP3-7.0 is above the “counterfactual” threshold, so is RCP 8.5.
In science it is frowned upon to use words like “impossible” (or phrases like “100% guaranteed certain”), it’s all about “likelihoods / probabilities” and “error ranges / confidence intervals”.
At least we can say that according to the IPCC all “scientific” papers that rely on either of the 8.5 [ W/m² in 2100 ] scenarios can now be declared to be “contrary to the empirical data”.
It would help if you stated which paper you refer to.
Even the IPCC states a high-emission scenario is unrealistic, yet scientists persist in using it to justify their existence.
The full quote is:
So made up.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/adb31c
Meaning what?
All “Scenarios” in glorified climate computer games are utterly and completely MEANINGLESS. !
They are based on NON-science.
The Atlantic Coast Conference has enough problems. We don’t need computer models picking on us as well.
Aerial photography be damned there is no escaping the dooming-
Scientists Warn: Greenhouse Emissions Could Push Low Earth Orbit to the Brink of Collapse
When the first of the satellites begin crashing it will be time to get your affairs in order.
The cause is magnetic reversal, the magnetic pole is moving fast.
When the Ross Sea Penguin story came on JoNova, I looked at the summer solstice sunlight at 60s over the last 1000 years. This is the result:
-1.000 511.773509
-0.900 511.550578
-0.800 511.309654
-0.700 511.051205
-0.600 510.775733
-0.500 510.483767
-0.400 510.175853
-0.300 509.852542
-0.200 509.514386
-0.100 509.161925
0.000 508.795691
So the summer solstice daily solar intensity is down 3W/m^2. The sunlight at zenith would be down around 8W/m^2. So a substantial reduction in the past 1000 years. It would be expected to have an influence on a reduction in ice melt and cooling trend in the Southern Ocean as we now observe.
Story tip.
Amazon forest felled to build road for climate summit
A new four-lane highway cutting through tens of thousands of acres of protected Amazon rainforest is being built for the COP30 climate summit in the Brazilian city of Belém.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9vy191rgn1o
But its a “climate” meeting/soirée, so any environmental destruction is totally allowable…
… actually…. scratch that, environmental destruction is absolutely EXPECTED… mandatory.
It is only 8 miles long and I’m sure they will be planting saplings elsewhere to make up for it 🙂
Strange that the media never say anything about all the energy, air flights etc used every year to allow these thousands of delegates to meet up yet again.
Weather History is certainly inconvenient for the Climate Alarmists.
Weather History debunks Climate Change Alarm.
Climate Change Alarmists say the weather is worse than ever, but Weather History says, No, it’s not.
I know it’s not Antarctica but John Tyndall made the following drawing of the Mer de Glacé glacier near Chamonix France in 1857, about the end of the Little Ice Age. You can see the modern view of it on Google Earth. It is much reduced today….
“… over a 2,000 km stretch of East Antarctica.”
How does a land mass which surrounds the South Pole have an “eastern” region?
Not sure why the -1. I suppose Eastern an Western hemisphere terminology matters
Once you move away from the actual “South Pole” … which direction are you moving?
“Inexplicably, the BBC report failed to note that the prediction was generated by a computer model”
The BBC has long forgotten how to reveal the truth to its license fee payers.
Since it determined CAGW was a worthwhile agenda to follow it meant swallowing huge numbers of lies, employing people who were prepared to repeat those lies without conscience, and spending money on programmes that magnified the agenda but distorted and in many cases obliterated the truth in much the way our oldest ancestors must have done when hiding away. The BBC has long convinced itself that computers can do exceptional things which may be partially true under careful logical programming but is not true when applied to the illogical which makes up a vast amount of what human’s do. When was the last time a computer grew hair, made a face about it and shaved it off let alone do something wordy it was never designed to do?
The BBC has become far too entrenched in its own lies to ever be able to return to the truth that is there for all to see in the middle ground – we know much less about our Planet than we care to admit and making up stories about it all is still fiction and never will be fact except by chance coincidence. We certainly will remain oblivious to getting close to the truth without a complete mind reset of the media monsters their highly unpleasant billionaire sponsors and backers and crowds of duplicitous politicians.. .
Sue the liars for scientific fraud.
When asked for a comment, Greta said, “How dare you!”
“A recent paper from Singh and Polvani found that Antarctica sea ice “has modestly expanded, a finding that seems to confirm the work on the ice shelf increases between 2009-2019.”
However since then the Antarctic sea ice has consistently decreased.
“Sensational new discoveries arising from long-forgotten early aerial photographs indicate that ice has remained stable and even grown slightly since the 1930s over a 2,000 km stretch of East Antarctica.”
Need photographs with GPS coordinates. Some day Google Earth photos might work.