As gimmicks go, it’s very expensive. And it enriches the elect.
Petermiller
February 5, 2025 2:22 am
The UK’s energy policies are beyond insane, caused by a blind fanaticism to Net Zero and politicians devoid of all business sense. For example, on a typical day 8-10% of the UK’s electricity is derived from the heavily subsidised burning of wood chips, shipped over from North America, including west coast British Columbia
The UK has the highest electricity prices in the world and we have just banned all new drilling for oil and gas.
Please ask Mr Trump to tell the UK’s ecoloon politicians that if we don’t stop this green madness destroying our economy, he will no longer consider us as being part of NATO. Maybe, then there will be some common sense.
I’m bit puzzled by the “highest electricity prices in the world” claim. Have just looked at the Cost of Electricity by Country 2024 and according to that list the UK has 9th highest prices, just above Germany
British Steel recently said the average price faced by UK steel makers during 2024/25 was £66 per MWh compared to £43 in France and £50 in Germany meaning it will pay £37m to £50m more than its competitors.
“Please ask Mr Trump to tell the UK’s ecoloon politicians that if we don’t stop this green madness destroying our economy, he will no longer consider us as being part of NATO.”
Trump may not go that far, but I bet he will tell the UK leaders they are ruining their economy trying to run it on windmills and solar, and that they should instead “drill, baby, drill !”.
I think Trump will be visiting the UK in the near future. That will be fun! Trump will be dropping truth bombs everywhere! 🙂
Why in the world would President Trump care if a competitor in the global economy wrecks its competitive posture? Its not if the UK would be a reliable partner if push-came-to-shove.
Rahx360
February 5, 2025 2:23 am
I slept through economy classes but I hate the phrase “create jobs”. Who’s paying for those jobs? I rather have a NPP with two employees, one to switch it on, a second to turn it off instead of 100.000 workers keeping the renewable stuff up for not producing energy.
The jobs that energy provides are not in the provision of the energy, they are in the usage of the energy. The more jobs there are in the provision of a unit of energy, the fewer the jobs that are actually provided.
Any fool can create a job. Tax people and pay people to be window breakers and glaziers.
This is the fallacy of the Left, That job creation (or university graduate creation) is in any way a good thing.
What is needed is wealth creation.
In a society with no jobs and robots doing all the hard work of wealth creation, humans could live like Gods.
But who would need a party called ‘Labour’ in that scenario?
strativarius
February 5, 2025 3:04 am
For the next 4.5 years or so the world will follow the lead on Pythonesque absurd humour dressed up as policy from the British. So, we will be leading by example after all.
Money’s too tight to mention, as the song goes; but Kweir Starmer et al remain undeterred by minor problems like money… £22 billion on CCS seems profligate given it doesn’t work, but there’s lots, lots more…
£500 million to South American and African farmers, the list really does go on and on and the common feature is self-sacrifice, or putting us taxpayers at the back of the queue (h/t Obama)
But there is humour to be had in all this crud. One of the anti-expansion legal outfits is the hopeless Good Law Project (led by the fox beating Jolyon Maugham)
The Chagos Islands are an interesting case. Uninhabited but Maldivian traders and fishermen were occasionally lost at sea and became stranded in one of the islands of the Chagos. For centuries, the Maldivians have used the Chagos as a base for fishing expeditions. People would camp on the islands, catch fish, and cook, smoke, and dry them. The Portuguese came across them in the early 16th century. The French claimed them in the 1790s and established a colony in 1793. After Napoleon’s defeated they were ceded to the British who governed them from Mauritius. So no indigenous population apart from some lost Maldivians but whatever population was/is there are descendents of slaves and colonists.
The fact the British found it convenient to run the place from Mauritius seems a poor reason to deem them part of Mauritius. The Maldives seem to have a better claim and may well need the land any day now.
Labour’s £20billion black hole seems to be matched by a lot of spending we weren’t told about and they didn’t plan.
strativarius
February 5, 2025 3:11 am
For the next 4.5 years or so the world will follow the lead on Pythonesque absurd humour from the British. So, we will be leading by example after all.
Money’s too tight to mention, as the song goes; but Kweir Starmer et al remain undeterred by minor problems like money… £22 billion on CCS seems profligate given it doesn’t work, but there’s lots, lots more…
“Labour Offers Mauritius £18 Billion After Hermer Intervenes in Chagos Surrender”
– Guido Fawkes
£500 million to South American and African farmers, the list really does go on and on and the commom feature is self-sacrifice, or putting us atthe back of the queue (h/t Obama)
Labour Cuts £17 Million From Maths Support Programme on Same Day as Handing £17 Million to UNRWA – Guido Fawkes
And we all know about UNRWA. What about Reeves v Miliband?
‘We’re already dusting off our plans’, say legal activists, claiming third runway will ‘blow the doors off’ Labour’s net zero pledges
But there is humour to be had in all this crud. One of the anti-expansion legal outfits is the hopeless Good Law Project (led by the fox beating Jolyon Maugham)
I think the climate change act goes back further than that. It was called something else then though. The intrinsic problem is that the UK signed up to keep on lockstep with EU directives on renewable energy post Brexit. The EU was really scared of a UK with gas and nuclear becoming the place in Europe to make stuff, instead of Germany.
Labour certainly don’t have the balls to rescind that and nor did the Tories. It remains to be seen if a more aggressive Reform in some form of government might.
With £22bn being spent on CCS, what happened to the supposed £22bn black hole Reeves said she found in the UK’s accounts.
Having raised taxes and stopped pensioners’ fuel allowance in what she says is a move to fill the black hole, she then immediately digs another one the same size.
Create a Quango, stuff it full of supporters who get a large salary and an index linked pension. The left wing way. They are looking for a HR manager, offered £70K with no takers and now its on offer at £90K. The planned employment figures are so low the HR manager will have nothing to do for several years.
My take on GBE is that is is just a vehicle to transfer taxpayers money into more net-zero lunacy. That is, whats left after diverting some of it into it’s own running costs.
It is just another outfit, as you accurately describe, whose main function is to shield Ministers from accountability.
Idle Eric
February 5, 2025 4:11 am
Labour’s GB Energy “A Gimmick”
Yep.
Essentially, they’ve had 14 years in opposition, at least the last two of which they should’ve been reasonably certain they would form the next government, but instead of formulating policies to make the country a better place, they convinced themselves that they were somehow morally superior, and that in itself was a sufficient platform for government.
So, now they’re in power, and they’re finding out it’s much harder than they thought it was, and all they have is a list of gimmicks, meaningless slogans (smash the gangs), and policies that are actively harmful to the national interest (too many to list).
The “EdStone” was a large stone tablet which was commissioned by the Labour Party during the 2015 general election. The stone was 2.6 metres (8 ft 6 in) tall and featured six election pledges carved into it, together with the Labour logo, and a copy of the signature of the party leader Ed Miliband. It was much mocked; for example, John Rentoul, a biographer of former Prime Minister Tony Blair, described it as the “most absurd, ugly, embarrassing, childish, silly, patronising, idiotic, insane, ridiculous gimmick I have ever seen”
John Rentoul, a biographer of former Prime Minister Tony Blair, described it as the “most absurd, ugly, embarrassing, childish, silly, patronising, idiotic, insane, ridiculous gimmick I have ever seen”
They were too busy formulating policies to make the country a worse place. And very successfully.
abolition man
February 5, 2025 5:44 am
In 15 or 20 years, when the US decides that it has an obligation to free the once great British people from their increasingly rapid descent back to the Stone Age, will the mullahs of Europistan allow the liberation to proceed unmolested, or will they send in their most highly trained grooming gangs to resist!?
On that future day, will the British people accept the imposition of a proper Bill of Rights, or will they try to protect their abusers in true Stockholm fashion!?
cuddywhiffer
February 5, 2025 5:59 am
I think that they forgot that ‘Yes Minister’, was a tongue in cheek laugh at politics, and see it, instead, as a road map.
MrGrimNasty
February 5, 2025 6:44 am
Another Starmer disaster. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czj3w9k7gxxo
The average elevation is 4 feet, according to the doomsters it’ll be drowned by rising seas shortly, so what’s the point of a base/99 year lease anyway! Unless of course…….
You seem unaware that coral atols are volcanoes that have been eroded down to sea level over millions of years where they will be protected by their coral rim that raises them up with dust from the coral to about 2.5 metres above the current sea level, until they stop, when the Island does disappear. The Emperor chain that comprise the Hawaian chain back to Midway before they submerge can by seen marching underwater across the Pacific to the North west, each deeper than the last, until they disappear into the great recyler beneath along with the Pacific Plate, under the Asian plate, at about 20cm pa. The Chagos Islands will have been a product of India migrating from SE Africa to bump into Asia about 50Ma BP. Etc.
Anyone following the NetZero fiasco should know by now it’s not about climate. It’s a well orchestrated attack on Capitalism that wouldn’t be possible without the MSM constantly bombarding people with the evils of fossil fuels. The Marxist played their card very well up to this point but now people are realizing how impossible NetZero is and the damage that’s accumulating trying to reach the mythical goal.
Time is up for this nonsense. For a very long time, those of us critical of the global warming scam, net zero and all the not so “green” energy boondoggles have discussed the issues as if we believe the proponents of these scams are actually trying to make our nations stronger, richer and more successful overall, but that they just have the wrong end of the stick in terms of how to do that.
The proponents of this fraud may well be incredibly stupid in some critical ways, but it no longer makes sense to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume it is honest confusion that drives their actions. It is fraud and the seeking of both power and wealth at the expense of our nations and every citizen they contain.
They are not trying to better western democracies, they are deliberately trying to destroy them while they personally pick over the ruins for their own greed and corpulent narcissism. It is no longer appropriate to be nice and polite about it. This is a war on modern society and all the good that it has built since the early industrial age. We cannot lose this war and yet retain the foundations of modern society.
The current lot leading us to destruction must be made redundant and voters who care about their future and that of their descendants must find leaders who will lead us to the future, not take us back to a preindustrial, feudal existence of poverty, hunger and misery. Above all else we must speak up loudly and frequently for the truth.
As gimmicks go, it’s very expensive. And it enriches the elect.
The UK’s energy policies are beyond insane, caused by a blind fanaticism to Net Zero and politicians devoid of all business sense. For example, on a typical day 8-10% of the UK’s electricity is derived from the heavily subsidised burning of wood chips, shipped over from North America, including west coast British Columbia
The UK has the highest electricity prices in the world and we have just banned all new drilling for oil and gas.
Please ask Mr Trump to tell the UK’s ecoloon politicians that if we don’t stop this green madness destroying our economy, he will no longer consider us as being part of NATO. Maybe, then there will be some common sense.
Sigh………….
I’m bit puzzled by the “highest electricity prices in the world” claim. Have just looked at the Cost of Electricity by Country 2024 and according to that list the UK has 9th highest prices, just above Germany
This source has the UK as 6th highest.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/263492/electricity-prices-in-selected-countries/
The lady actually said “highest industrial electricity prices”.
British Steel recently said the average price faced by UK steel makers during 2024/25 was £66 per MWh compared to £43 in France and £50 in Germany meaning it will pay £37m to £50m more than its competitors.
Put it this way…
It could be cheap as chips.
https://iea.org.uk/were-number-one-in-unaffordable-electricity/
“Please ask Mr Trump to tell the UK’s ecoloon politicians that if we don’t stop this green madness destroying our economy, he will no longer consider us as being part of NATO.”
Trump may not go that far, but I bet he will tell the UK leaders they are ruining their economy trying to run it on windmills and solar, and that they should instead “drill, baby, drill !”.
I think Trump will be visiting the UK in the near future. That will be fun! Trump will be dropping truth bombs everywhere! 🙂
Why in the world would President Trump care if a competitor in the global economy wrecks its competitive posture? Its not if the UK would be a reliable partner if push-came-to-shove.
I slept through economy classes but I hate the phrase “create jobs”. Who’s paying for those jobs? I rather have a NPP with two employees, one to switch it on, a second to turn it off instead of 100.000 workers keeping the renewable stuff up for not producing energy.
The jobs that energy provides are not in the provision of the energy, they are in the usage of the energy. The more jobs there are in the provision of a unit of energy, the fewer the jobs that are actually provided.
People need to study the history of the 1930s New Deal.
It did not work then and it has not worked in recent times.
Any fool can create a job. Tax people and pay people to be window breakers and glaziers.
This is the fallacy of the Left, That job creation (or university graduate creation) is in any way a good thing.
What is needed is wealth creation.
In a society with no jobs and robots doing all the hard work of wealth creation, humans could live like Gods.
But who would need a party called ‘Labour’ in that scenario?
For the next 4.5 years or so the world will follow the lead on Pythonesque absurd humour dressed up as policy from the British. So, we will be leading by example after all.
Money’s too tight to mention, as the song goes; but Kweir Starmer et al remain undeterred by minor problems like money… £22 billion on CCS seems profligate given it doesn’t work, but there’s lots, lots more…
“Labour Offers Mauritius £18 Billion After Hermer Intervenes in Chagos Surrender”
https://order-order.com/2025/02/04/labour-offers-mauritius-18-billion-after-hermer-intervenes-in-chagos-surrender/
£500 million to South American and African farmers, the list really does go on and on and the common feature is self-sacrifice, or putting us taxpayers at the back of the queue (h/t Obama)
Labour Cuts £17 Million From Maths Support Programme on Same Day as Handing £17 Million to UNRWA
https://order-order.com/2025/01/29/labour-cuts-17-million-from-maths-support-programme-on-same-day-as-handing-17-million-to-unrwa/
And we all know about UNRWA. What about Reeves v Miliband?
‘We’re already dusting off our plans’, say legal activists, claiming third runway will ‘blow the doors off’ Labour’s net zero pledges
The Telegraph has been told that legal cases against the expansion could be supported by Labour councils and even MPs in west London.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/02/01/left-wing-lawyers-plot-derail-heathrow-expansion-reeves/
But there is humour to be had in all this crud. One of the anti-expansion legal outfits is the hopeless Good Law Project (led by the fox beating Jolyon Maugham)
Jolyon Maugham
https://order-order.com/people/jolyon-maugham/
And that fox…
it is perhaps the most entertaining six pages of prose to be published in recent history. This is the day Jolyon bludgeoned that innocent fox, told from the perspective of the killer himself…
https://order-order.com/2023/04/27/jolyon-writes-six-whole-pages-explaining-why-he-beat-fox-to-death/
If Reeves manages to lose against this rabble…..
The Chagos Islands are an interesting case. Uninhabited but Maldivian traders and fishermen were occasionally lost at sea and became stranded in one of the islands of the Chagos. For centuries, the Maldivians have used the Chagos as a base for fishing expeditions. People would camp on the islands, catch fish, and cook, smoke, and dry them. The Portuguese came across them in the early 16th century. The French claimed them in the 1790s and established a colony in 1793. After Napoleon’s defeated they were ceded to the British who governed them from Mauritius.
So no indigenous population apart from some lost Maldivians but whatever population was/is there are descendents of slaves and colonists.
The fact the British found it convenient to run the place from Mauritius seems a poor reason to deem them part of Mauritius. The Maldives seem to have a better claim and may well need the land any day now.
Labour’s £20billion black hole seems to be matched by a lot of spending we weren’t told about and they didn’t plan.
For the next 4.5 years or so the world will follow the lead on Pythonesque absurd humour from the British. So, we will be leading by example after all.
Money’s too tight to mention, as the song goes; but Kweir Starmer et al remain undeterred by minor problems like money… £22 billion on CCS seems profligate given it doesn’t work, but there’s lots, lots more…
“Labour Offers Mauritius £18 Billion After Hermer Intervenes in Chagos Surrender”
– Guido Fawkes
£500 million to South American and African farmers, the list really does go on and on and the commom feature is self-sacrifice, or putting us atthe back of the queue (h/t Obama)
Labour Cuts £17 Million From Maths Support Programme on Same Day as Handing £17 Million to UNRWA – Guido Fawkes
And we all know about UNRWA. What about Reeves v Miliband?
‘We’re already dusting off our plans’, say legal activists, claiming third runway will ‘blow the doors off’ Labour’s net zero pledges
The Telegraph has been told that legal cases against the expansion could be supported by Labour councils and even MPs in west London.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/02/01/left-wing-lawyers-plot-derail-heathrow-expansion-reeves/
But there is humour to be had in all this crud. One of the anti-expansion legal outfits is the hopeless Good Law Project (led by the fox beating Jolyon Maugham)
Jolyon Maugham
https://order-order.com/people/jolyon-maugham/
it is perhaps the most entertaining six pages of prose to be published in recent history. This is the day Jolyon bludgeoned that innocent fox, told from the perspective of the killer himself…
https://order-order.com/2023/04/27/jolyon-writes-six-whole-pages-explaining-why-he-beat-fox-to-death/
If Reeves manages to lose against this rabble…..
NB This is a repost as that silly link rule gets in the way. Best delete the original…
Problem is, all they need say is “Climate Change Act 2008”, and like a magic wand, any construction, development, etc, will magically disappear.
Cannot one act of parliament be repealed by another subsequent one?
It can, however the odds of T4K et al doing such must be vanishingly remote.
Not if its part of an International Treaty, and you have a lawyer in charge,
I think the climate change act goes back further than that. It was called something else then though. The intrinsic problem is that the UK signed up to keep on lockstep with EU directives on renewable energy post Brexit. The EU was really scared of a UK with gas and nuclear becoming the place in Europe to make stuff, instead of Germany.
Labour certainly don’t have the balls to rescind that and nor did the Tories. It remains to be seen if a more aggressive Reform in some form of government might.
With £22bn being spent on CCS, what happened to the supposed £22bn black hole Reeves said she found in the UK’s accounts.
Having raised taxes and stopped pensioners’ fuel allowance in what she says is a move to fill the black hole, she then immediately digs another one the same size.
Create a Quango, stuff it full of supporters who get a large salary and an index linked pension. The left wing way. They are looking for a HR manager, offered £70K with no takers and now its on offer at £90K. The planned employment figures are so low the HR manager will have nothing to do for several years.
My take on GBE is that is is just a vehicle to transfer taxpayers money into more net-zero lunacy. That is, whats left after diverting some of it into it’s own running costs.
It is just another outfit, as you accurately describe, whose main function is to shield Ministers from accountability.
Yep.
Essentially, they’ve had 14 years in opposition, at least the last two of which they should’ve been reasonably certain they would form the next government, but instead of formulating policies to make the country a better place, they convinced themselves that they were somehow morally superior, and that in itself was a sufficient platform for government.
So, now they’re in power, and they’re finding out it’s much harder than they thought it was, and all they have is a list of gimmicks, meaningless slogans (smash the gangs), and policies that are actively harmful to the national interest (too many to list).
What could you expect from a Party that came up with Ed Stone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EdStone
Until Mad Ed said “hold my beer” and created GBE.
I had to look to see what those pledges were
All very noble and vague, perhaps why in this election promises and statements were well defined with numbers.
They were too busy formulating policies to make the country a worse place. And very successfully.
In 15 or 20 years, when the US decides that it has an obligation to free the once great British people from their increasingly rapid descent back to the Stone Age, will the mullahs of Europistan allow the liberation to proceed unmolested, or will they send in their most highly trained grooming gangs to resist!?
On that future day, will the British people accept the imposition of a proper Bill of Rights, or will they try to protect their abusers in true Stockholm fashion!?
I think that they forgot that ‘Yes Minister’, was a tongue in cheek laugh at politics, and see it, instead, as a road map.
Another Starmer disaster.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czj3w9k7gxxo
The average elevation is 4 feet, according to the doomsters it’ll be drowned by rising seas shortly, so what’s the point of a base/99 year lease anyway! Unless of course…….
You seem unaware that coral atols are volcanoes that have been eroded down to sea level over millions of years where they will be protected by their coral rim that raises them up with dust from the coral to about 2.5 metres above the current sea level, until they stop, when the Island does disappear. The Emperor chain that comprise the Hawaian chain back to Midway before they submerge can by seen marching underwater across the Pacific to the North west, each deeper than the last, until they disappear into the great recyler beneath along with the Pacific Plate, under the Asian plate, at about 20cm pa. The Chagos Islands will have been a product of India migrating from SE Africa to bump into Asia about 50Ma BP. Etc.
It’s a shame whoosh parrots went out of fashion.
Anyone following the NetZero fiasco should know by now it’s not about climate. It’s a well orchestrated attack on Capitalism that wouldn’t be possible without the MSM constantly bombarding people with the evils of fossil fuels. The Marxist played their card very well up to this point but now people are realizing how impossible NetZero is and the damage that’s accumulating trying to reach the mythical goal.
Time is up for this nonsense. For a very long time, those of us critical of the global warming scam, net zero and all the not so “green” energy boondoggles have discussed the issues as if we believe the proponents of these scams are actually trying to make our nations stronger, richer and more successful overall, but that they just have the wrong end of the stick in terms of how to do that.
The proponents of this fraud may well be incredibly stupid in some critical ways, but it no longer makes sense to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume it is honest confusion that drives their actions. It is fraud and the seeking of both power and wealth at the expense of our nations and every citizen they contain.
They are not trying to better western democracies, they are deliberately trying to destroy them while they personally pick over the ruins for their own greed and corpulent narcissism. It is no longer appropriate to be nice and polite about it. This is a war on modern society and all the good that it has built since the early industrial age. We cannot lose this war and yet retain the foundations of modern society.
The current lot leading us to destruction must be made redundant and voters who care about their future and that of their descendants must find leaders who will lead us to the future, not take us back to a preindustrial, feudal existence of poverty, hunger and misery. Above all else we must speak up loudly and frequently for the truth.
Makes me think of ENRON.
You will all save electricity and be happy!
Tumble Dryers the Shocking Truth About Heat Pump vs Vented & Condenser, NEW LEGISLATION! – YouTube
I don’t know but I been told …giving people a pick and telling them to reduce a mountain to gravel road base also creates jobs