Under the guise of climate remediation, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) signed a bill into law Dec. 27 that will allow the state to fine oil and natural gas companies a total of $75 billion over the next 25 years for their alleged role in inflicting climate-related damage on the state’s infrastructure.
“With nearly every record rainfall, heatwave, and coastal storm, New Yorkers are increasingly burdened with billions of dollars in health, safety, and environmental consequences due to polluters who have historically harmed our environment,” Hochul said in a statement.
“This landmark legislation shifts the cost of climate adaptation from everyday New Yorkers to the fossil-fuel companies most responsible for the pollution,” Hochul added.
New York’s Climate Change Superfund Act is modeled after the “polluter pays” principle contained in the original 1980 Superfund law, which said parties held responsible for contributing to toxic pollution sites would be liable for cleanup. But treating carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions from the production and combustion of fossil fuels the same way as contamination from, say, a long-abandoned mine is comparing apples with oranges.
CO2 – whether manmade or natural – is not a pollutant; indeed, today’s rising atmospheric levels of CO2 are highly beneficial to life, both fauna and flora. One of the surest ways to lower agricultural productivity is to adopt climate policies that reduce atmospheric CO2. Furthermore, attributing weather events such as heavy rain, droughts, heatwaves, cold snaps, and coastal storms to use of fossil fuels is purely speculative. Nowhere in the New York statute is a cause-and-effect relationship established.
Hochul and her fellow Democrats in Albany are not interested in such matters; their agenda is extortion. Instead of paying to upgrade the state’s roads and bridges – not to mention New York City’s crumbling subway system – with higher taxes on already overtaxed New Yorkers, shaking down oil and gas companies looks like an easy way out. Under the new law, companies that emitted over 1 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide between 2000 and 2018 will be held to account. How much each company will have to cough up will be determined by state bureaucrats. As many as three dozen or more, led by ExxonMobil and Chevron, will have to pay up.
Vermont passed its own version of the climate Superfund law last summer, and similar legislation is under consideration in California, Massachusetts, and Maryland. Using state and local tort laws to replenish depleted government coffers in the name of remediating damage said to result from climate change may be a bridge too far legally. The effort suffered a setback in 2021, when the Second Circuit Court of Appeals dismissed a New York City lawsuit targeting fossil fuel producers. As recently noted by the Wall Street Journal, the court held that state tort law could not be used “to hold multinational oil companies liable for the damages caused by global greenhouse gas emissions.”
Further clarity on applying state tort law to global greenhouse gas emissions may have to come from the U.S. Supreme Court. The court is considering whether to hear Sunoco LP v. City and County of Honolulu. Sunoco, an oil company, was sued by the City and County of Honolulu for its alleged impact on the climate. In a petition filed in May 2024 with the Supreme Court, attorneys for the company argued that the case against Sunoco was unconstitutional.
“The Hawaii Supreme Court held that the state law can impose liability for injuries allegedly caused by the effect of interstate and international greenhouse-gas emissions on the global climate,” the brief reads. “The Second Circuit, considering materially identical claims, rejected such a breathtaking, extraterritorial application of state law. Other courts, too, have declined to apply state law extraterritorially to regulate transboundary pollution. The question is whether the unique phenomenon of global climate change licenses states to ignore the structure of our constitutional system and extend state law beyond their borders is at the heart of the climate-change litigation currently ongoing nationwide. The Court’s intervention is urgently needed.”
A decision from the Supreme Court on whether to hear the case is expected in early 2025. In the meantime, blue states – anticipating that the incoming Trump administration will roll back a slew of federal green energy policies – will attempt to build a firewall to preserve as much of their climate agenda as the courts allow.
This article originally appeared in Human Events
Discover more from Watts Up With That?
Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.
Fascists always take control of business operations. Its part of their platform.
New York Oil and Gas suppliers should definitely cut off sales and supplies to ALL…
Local
City
County
and State
Government entities in any blue state involved in suing them.
Help the Government entities to no longer be hypocritical
The authorities in these States that are so condemning of fossil fuels need to be offered a contract of supply. Those who sign up to be supplied conditional on support for fossil fuel use should be supplied those who refuse to champion fossil fuels and refuse to sign a contract of supply should be blocked from receiving such.
We should help those who wish to ban the use of fossil fuels, from being users of fossil fuels.
Suppliers should go to court. Get a court order banning sales and supplies.
Now the courts get blamed, not the suppliers.
Increase fossil fuel prices to make up for the tax theft.
If they want fossil fuel electricity from out of state, put a massive surcharge on it. Red states can make a motza.
Fossil fuel companies are just providing a service, it is the end user that creates the emissions…
… that would be the whole population of New York.
But only in the states doing the extorting.
“can impose liability for injuries allegedly caused by the effect of interstate and international greenhouse-gas emissions on the global climate”
roflmao.
Try that with India and China, who are responsible for most current CO2 emissions…
… see how far you get…
… muppets !!
The chemicals covered by the super fund bill, were always known to be dangerous and harmful.
They have still not proven that CO2 is dangerous and harmful. On the contrary, the bulk of the evidence is that is necessary and beneficial.
About CO2, indeed.
.
In addition to The Water Cycle there is The Carbon Cycle which the (assumed progressive) legislature and governor of New York have never heard of …
.
This should have been part of elementary education there in New Yawk State/New Yawk City, but apparently not. So much for liberal progressive-ism.
.
https://www.earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/CarbonCycle
NY has outlawed the carbon cycle. Next up, using regulations to modify the law of gravity.
And then legislate that pi is exactly equal to 3.
You beat me to the punchline.
““to hold multinational oil companies liable for the damages caused by global greenhouse gas emissions.””
There are no proven damages caused by enhanced atmospheric CO2,
Only MASSIVE benefits.
Even if they do pull off the impossible and get the courts to allow this extortion, then Exxon would only be responsible for the CO2 that their customers emitted in New York. Mobile would only be responsible for the fraction of CO2 that their customers emitted in New York.
That would make Exxon, Mobile, etc. liable for what 0.0002% of the damage done to NY’s roads over that period?
Exactly, Mark. And which states get the money? Apparently, New York is holding the oil companies accountable for ALL emissions. If the other states do that then, they will have to split the pie. And what about emissions from fuels they do not supply, like coal?
What a bunch of maroons.
I believe allowing ex post facto “civil” laws are as evil as ex post facto criminal laws. There is no way for Exxon to go back in time and refuse to sell oil products in the State of New York. It is also a bill of attainder, as the legislature has declared the oil companies guilty, and decreed their punishment, with no trial or due process.
Red states should simply disconnect their grids from the blue states and let the blue states deal with no power as many are already on the brink. AS for the fossil fuel companies, mpve out of blue states into red states and deliver no fuel so as to “not make the situation worse” thus doing their bit to alleviate the cr@p emerging from these states. I am just wondering what would happen if the NYSE had no power?
Harold the Organic Chemist Says:
ATTN: Everyone
RE: Greenhouse Gases: H2O vs CO2
At the MLO in Hawaii, the concentration of CO2 in dry air is 424 ppmv. One cubic meter of this air contains a mere 0.83 g of CO2 and has a mass of 1.29 kg at STP.
In air with a temperature of 70 deg. F (21 deg. C) and 70% RH, the concentration of H2O is 17,780 ppmv. One cubic meter of this air contains 14.3 g of H2O, 0.78 g of CO2 and has a mass of 1.20 kg.
To the first approximation and all things being equal, the amount of the greenhouse effect
(GHE) due to H2O in this air given by:
GHE for H2O = 17,780 ppmv / 17,780 ppmv + 397 ppmv = 0.98 or 98%
How do we convince Gov. Kathy H. that there is too little CO2 to affect weather and climate?
‘How do we convince Gov. Kathy H. that there is too little CO2 to affect weather and climate?’
We can’t – she’s an idiot.
“We can’t – she’s an idiot.”
This may be redundant: she’s a politician. Expert on how to get the masses to vote for her, and not much more.
Politicians are either fully indoctrinated, or fully in on the scam. Not much hope of persuading her either way.
The Canada Polar Pipeline will inundate the eastern US with a massive amount of really cold Arctic air for the next two weeks. Hopefully Frosty the Snowman will slap some sense into her.
Only if the fuel companies apply restrictions on supply.
And even if they do, it’s a safe bet that the Governor’s mansion and other government buildings will be the last to be cut off.
Or both.
Sufferers of climate hysteria are regressing to pre-enlightenment mental states.
It would be interesting to see what evidence Ms Hochul can produce to substantiate that bizarre claim, maybe she had visions i.e. spectral evidence as in Salem Mass (1692 – 93).
I seriously doubt whether any recent rainfall, heatwave or storm is a long term record.
New York state has a population of 20 million people, and they exhale ca 20 million pounds of CO2 ever day and therefore are polluters. Should they pay a fine similar to that proposed for the oil companies?
The people will also be paying the oil companies’ fines through higher gas prices!
Bingo. The taxation wins again. In states without state taxes, they win through inflation which pushes taxpayers into higher brackets, penalty money from oil companies paid for by oil product users.
If these states were really serious about CC, the governors wouldn’t allow any FF to be sold or used in their states. The fact that they do, and just want money, is very telling.
Just like allowing and taxing tobacco use. Only there is a much more compelling reason to ban tobacco.
The tobacco tax puts the government in the “curious” position of telling people that they shouldn’t smoke, yet at the same time relying on the revenue from the tobacco tax to fund general revenue.
The irony is that the only human contribution to climate change is from the increase in water vapor. The human contribution to water vapor increase is from human population increase and irrigation increase. https://watervaporandwarming.blogspot.com
The wind is a major force for transporting H2O as vapor and clouds from the oceans onto the land. At Vancouver Int. Airport rainfall for 2024 was ca 1.3 meters. In the far northeastern BC, there has been drought for several years. The result is reduced hydropower from the large network of dams. BC Hydro had to purchase $500 millions worth of electricity for the last few years.
If there is more moisture in the air from irrigation, why is drought up there and many other places such as in California and in Texas in the citrus region along the Rio Grande.
Since 71% of the earth’s surface is covered with water, I doubt that irrigation makes a significant contribution to amount water vapor in the air. I recently read a report here that there has been reduction in cloud cover due the use of cleaner low sulfur marine fuels for cargo ships. Fewer clouds allows more sunlight to warm the oceans and land surface waters.
You should check out the review: “A Noble Prize for Climate Modeling Errors” by
Roy Clark available at “Science of Climate Change” Vol 4(1). He reviews several papers which investigated the effects of wind on water transport into the air.
Part of the water problem in the Texas Rio Grande Valley for not just citrus but all crops is that Mexico is withholding water under the 1944 Water Treaty. There are five year cycles during which Mexico is to deliver 1,750,000 acre-feet of water from 6 tributaries for U.S. use. The current 5 year cycle ends in October 2025. Mexico is currently behind 1,000,000 or so acre-feet of water in this cycle.
Average global water vapor (actually only over cloudless oceans between 60S and 60N) has been accurately measured by NASA/RSS using satellite-based instrumentation. Average anomaly each month is reported on line annually. Last report was thru Dec, 2023. It appears that a lot of folks aren’t aware of or ignore that water vapor has been increasing about 1.4 % per decade since before 1988. Back at https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07/25/precipitable-water/ Willis pointed out the measured rise in water vapor and the warming which that would have caused.
It doesn’t matter where the WV comes from. The ocean area hasn’t changed much for millennia and WV from it is what contributed to the warming that made the planet warm enough for life as we know it. The added WV above that resulting from temperature increase must be from human activity. Curiosity about the source, documented in Section 6 of https://watervaporandwarming.blogspot.com , resulted in the discovery of the substantial contribution from irrigation. The increased WV can account for all of the planet warming attributable to humanity since before 1988 and by estimate, before 1900.
Of course the cost of “fines” (taxes) on oil companies will be passed on to consumers, driving up energy prices even further. The exodus from states run by power-mad, tyrannical, delusional leftists will accelerate, reducing their tax base and increasing their budget deficits. It will be interesting to see who they avariciously soak next to make up for their reckless spending. Eventually they’ll run out of dupes willing to pay for ridiculous government.
I still think the game is hardball politics and the appropriate response is something like this:
Although there is no evidence that our product is affecting the climate, in deference to New York’s desires, we will quit supplying our products to that state 30 days from now.
Then DO IT if needed.
It will be very interesting to see NY go to court to force the oil companies to continue supplying the allegedly harmful product.
As an alternative, they could go to court to get a court order ban, stop and decease order.
Then when they stop shipping, they will not be legally liable for the consequences.
If they ever figure out how much CO2 is generated by pouring concrete and building sky scrapers they will, of course, charge Donald Trump retroactively and put him in jail.
Mods, you might want to delete this before anyone from Hochul’s office sees it.
NEW YORK!
Stop buying products that use fossil fuels in their extraction, production or distribution.
Problem solved.
Only a politician would be dumb enough to think that taxing a corporation will have no impact on the price of that corporations products.
Most responsible for the pollution? Consumers.
There can be only one possible outcome: SCOTUS must and will overturn state laws like NY’s on constitutional grounds as well as Federal law. States are prohibited from burdening both interstate as well as international commerce, a power granted only to Congress. Congress enacted the Clean Air Act and its 1990 Amendments to regulate air pollution. By virtue of the supremacy clause and the preemption doctrine, states may not regulate what Congress regulates unless Congress specifically delegates such powers to the states in Federal law.
The state governments well know this. When they enact state laws to the contrary they know such laws will be overturned by the Federal courts. That Dem-run states like HI and NY enact such laws is purely an exercise in vanity, moral preening, and virtue signaling.
“An exercise in vanity, moral preening, and virtue signaling.”
Exactly!
“An exercise in venality, moral preening, and virtue signaling.”
.
Heh. FIFY. . . . . (Fixed it for you.)
“This landmark legislation shifts the cost of climate adaptation from everyday New Yorkers to the fossil-fuel companies most responsible for the pollution,” Hochul added.
Actually, the end-users are most responsible for the supposed pollution. (And CO2 is not “pollution”)
And, ironically enough. They’ll also be the suckers who ultimately get the bill for this shakedown.
The idea that this modern world could function without coal, oil and gas is truly insane. It shows the amazing ignorance of anti-fossil activists regarding the extensive list of products directly linked to these natural resources which the world relies on.
None of those ‘in power’ (making these idiotic decsions) have had to live under adverse conditions (nor do they read let alone understand historic accounts, writings on same), bringing to mind this observation:
.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
They are just suing themselves. The “emitters” are the ones using the product, not the companies supplying the fuel. Voting Democrat is a curious kind of stupid, like paying to wear “Kick Me” signs. Unfortunately, the alternative does not seem to be much of a step up.
Same playbook as it ever was (assuming this law stands which is doubtful):
Pick an industry
Shake it down for big $
Industry pays for the shakedown by raising prices
Politicians smile while pocketing the money and vow to “Do something about those greedy corporatuions”.
Rinse and repeat
This is only designed to get more money to the state via going after companies that will tranter these taxes to consumers. I would like to see in any state that does this that the companies affected stop service in those state as it would immediately cripple service in the state and force this government action to be stopped.